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I figured these questions would have been answered somewhere but my forum searches didn't turn up anything, so if it has been, feel free to direct me to the correct location. Here goes:
I have Titanium Backup Pro, and am getting ready to flash the Cognition ROM (I have a Samsung Captivate). I have in many places seen people recommend to only backup and then restore user apps and app data when switching from one ROM to another (or from stock to a ROM). However, when I look in the batch list (I have version 3.6.7 of TB) there is an option for user apps, system data, or user apps and system data but no option for user apps and app data. Is app data included in the batch file for apps?
Also, a wiki I read (can't post the link, too junior) claims that you can restore apps without restrictions across ROMS, which to me means that restoring system data shouldn't be a problem.
Essentially, I am worried that if I only back up user apps using the batch file, when I restore, the apps will be there, but their data (like my prized angry birds progress, heaven forbid I lose it) won't be. Is that the case or does the user apps backup include that kind of stuff?
Also, it seems like system data includes things like SMS history. Should I go through and backup specific parts of the system data like texts and contacts and restore those but just not use the batch file?
Thanks to anyone who can either answer these questions or direct me to the correct thread/website.
cdenney said:
I figured these questions would have been answered somewhere but my forum searches didn't turn up anything, so if it has been, feel free to direct me to the correct location. Here goes:
I have Titanium Backup Pro, and am getting ready to flash the Cognition ROM (I have a Samsung Captivate). I have in many places seen people recommend to only backup and then restore user apps and app data when switching from one ROM to another (or from stock to a ROM). However, when I look in the batch list (I have version 3.6.7 of TB) there is an option for user apps, system data, or user apps and system data but no option for user apps and app data. Is app data included in the batch file for apps?
Also, a wiki I read (can't post the link, too junior) claims that you can restore apps without restrictions across ROMS, which to me means that restoring system data shouldn't be a problem.
Essentially, I am worried that if I only back up user apps using the batch file, when I restore, the apps will be there, but their data (like my prized angry birds progress, heaven forbid I lose it) won't be. Is that the case or does the user apps backup include that kind of stuff?
Also, it seems like system data includes things like SMS history. Should I go through and backup specific parts of the system data like texts and contacts and restore those but just not use the batch file?
Thanks to anyone who can either answer these questions or direct me to the correct thread/website.
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I've always backed up user apps and data and system data. The trick is to uncheck anything you're not sure of when you go to restore.
The only system data I restore is my wifi access points. You should have your angry birds progress, but I've never had my sms restore.
Make a nandroid before you restore so that you can go back if it starts acting wonky on you.
I hope this helps!
you said you back up user apps, <i>data</i>, and system data. TB for me doesn't have an option of apps and data. It only has apps or apps and system data, which is why I'm worried.
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cdenney said:
you said you back up user apps, <i>data</i>, and system data. TB for me doesn't have an option of apps and data. It only has apps or apps and system data, which is why I'm worried.
Sent from my Samsung Captivate
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it automatically backs up the app and the data
you can restore apps accross roms but your asking for trouble if you try and restore data.
there should be an option in the batch to "restore missing apps with data" when you click "run" it will pop up with all the apps and at the top it will have a radio button to select app, app + data, or...um something else perhaps just data? (sorry flashing something else on my phone right now)
always select just app when flashing a different rom, else you might end up with a soft brick or atleast some FC.
hope this helps.
If I have helped please click my "Thanks" button!
Now that people have had the device for a few days, I was hoping their to headstart could help potential switchers and as the SR doesn't have it's own forum yet so I'm asking here.
Newbie alert!!!!
I am wondering how easy it will be to move from the Gs2 to the skyrocket? Basically any recommended ways of moving my apps, texts, pictures, etc to the SdCARD and back from the SdCard to the new phone? Contacts are synced with Google Contacts so no problems there, my main concern is with paid apps, I'd rather not pay for them again.
Can I back up apps via TiBU and restore them on the Skyrocket? Or can I just reinstall them on the new phone?
End of Newbie question!!!!
Paid apps are in your google account as well, you will be able to reinstall all your paid apps through the market (without repaying) by just signing in to your same google account.
The only thing you need to backup is your pictures/music.
Here's what I did to migrate to my Skyrocket from my Captivate:
*Duh Alert* Have your original phone rooted and Titanium Pro installed.
Original Phone
1. Backup APK & Data with Titanium.
2. Locate where backup directory is on your phone. Mine was \sdcard\TitaniumBackup
3. Mount original phone and copy backup directory to your computer.
New Hotness
1. Root that bad boy. Search the site, its here.
2. Install Titanium Pro from market.
3. Back up 1 app, pick something silly. That will create the backup directory.
4. Mount the new hotness and copy your saved directory from your computer to the Skyrocket.
5. Restore apps. I did one at a time cuz I didn't want everything installed on the new phone.
95% of the apps and data restored properly.
Simplistic, yes....but it works. Go forth and multiply.
If you want the smoothest experience on your Skyrocket, do NOT use a backup tool to bring over apps, just reinstall them from the Market.
Copying apps and app date with a tool like Titanium does and WILL cause some issues.
crawlgsx said:
If you want the smoothest experience on your Skyrocket, do NOT use a backup tool to bring over apps, just reinstall them from the Market.
Copying apps and app date with a tool like Titanium does and WILL cause some issues.
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To partially agree with you I tried using MyBackUp Pro and almost everything failed. That's what I deserve for buying that one first back in the day. BUT....Titanium worked great. All of my paid apps were as good as gold.
Plus, if you want your saved data, wouldn't you have to use a backup tool?
gheck911 said:
To partially agree with you I tried using MyBackUp Pro and almost everything failed. That's what I deserve for buying that one first back in the day. BUT....Titanium worked great. All of my paid apps were as good as gold.
Plus, if you want your saved data, wouldn't you have to use a backup tool?
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If your just trying to backup like game saves then sometimes. A lot of times that data can be backed up by just mounting your sdcard to your computer and copying the files. Some games do save the data in funny locations so you do need (easier) to use something like Titanium, but you are always better off starting from as scratch as possible to avoid issues later.
Moving an app to save you from entering your login info for example, is just a bad idea. Most apps have no real data to backup, simple 2 second settings etc....
crawlgsx said:
If you want the smoothest experience on your Skyrocket, do NOT use a backup tool to bring over apps, just reinstall them from the Market.
Copying apps and app date with a tool like Titanium does and WILL cause some issues.
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i have found that most issues with TiBu are do to you trying to restore System Information......i used tibu to restore my apps on the Skyrockert. i just picked APPS only with out system data.
worked fine i have not seen a hickup on any device or install after a flash of new Rom.
the2rrell said:
i have found that most issues with TiBu are do to you trying to restore System Information......i used tibu to restore my apps on the Skyrockert. i just picked APPS only with out system data.
worked fine i have not seen a hickup on any device or install after a flash of new Rom.
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TiBu works great, usually, for restoring NON-System apps and their data.
Avoid restoring system apps/data.
Also, if you do happen to run into a problem with a particular restored app, all you need to do is uninstall/reinstall it and then use TiBu to restore the "data only" for that app.
This has always worked for me.
y?
Its basically the same phone, screen tiny bit bigger and it edges r round, and the. 3 faster CPU is not noticeable, and if u don't live in the handful of citys that have lte network what's the point by the time LTE gets fully activated skyrocket will be old phone something way better out, now if u didn't have the gs2 already if say hell ya but since u do wasted money IMO
On my TMobile G2x I backed up all my downloaded apps (21 of them). The backup was successful. But in the Batch>Restore I see nowhere where there are 21 apps to restore.. Were the heck does Titanium Backup back these up to? I want them together so I can restore all at once if I do a Factory Data Reset.
James
It normally backs things up to a folder in your sd card called "titaniumbackup".... I think..
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terris98 said:
It normally backs things up to a folder in your sd card called "titaniumbackup".... I think..
Sent from my LG-E730 using xda app-developers app
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Internal SD Card?
I do see a folder called titaniumbackup.
I'm want to remove them and back up my 20 downloaded apps.
JamesJoey said:
On my TMobile G2x I backed up all my downloaded apps (21 of them). The backup was successful. But in the Batch>Restore I see nowhere where there are 21 apps to restore.. Were the heck does Titanium Backup back these up to? I want them together so I can restore all at once if I do a Factory Data Reset.
James
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U can't restore from its location (they have it backed up as some files that can be read by titanium backup only)
Just install titanium backup from play store after you do the data reset. Then go to the app and restore
Ps - the folder must be on external SD card. As wiping data is gonna wipe internal memory too and u ll lose the backup.
Titaniumbackup folder in internal sd folder or you choose it from settings. You cant restore them manually because as somebody said above they are archived in someway only titanium backup reads them.
I'm not trying to restore them manually.
My goal is to be able to go into Titanium and be able to see my backed up downloaded apps, and only my backed up downloaded apps. I did back them up, there are 20 of them. But, when I go into Batch>Restore I see no area where there are only 20 apps. When I tap run I'm faced with all the other system apps, that I backed up, and I need to uncheck the ones I don't want to.
I find this aspect of Titanium Backup very confusing.
It's like trying to shoot pool with a rope.
James
You need to set filter on Backup/Restore tab to show only User applications. Tap on "Click to edit filters" label.
Have no idea what's wrong with Titanium, now. When I go into Batch it showing 0 for every category. Seems Titanium has no idea I have any apps?? If I filter for all I get the list of my apps but there's a triangle icon with an exclamation on it on every app, system and user.
I don't get it.
Triangle means that there are no backups yet for selected apps
Something was wrong with Titanium Backup.
I uninstalled it and reinstalled it now it's and no it's finding the backups that I had already made. Including my 21 downloaded apps that I backed up. They show in the restore, now, in the User aps.
All is well,
James
Remember you will always have them in google play store (my apps section) assuming they were downloaded from google play store.
I always/frequently send my backups to cloud storage.. for any unforeseen circumstances I lose my apps, then I can at anytime grab them from my cloud..
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I spoke too soon.
I did a factory data reset and installed Titanium Backup. Can't find any of my backups I did just prior to don't the reset.
Is there any other backup out there that works???
Roots said:
Remember you will always have them in google play store (my apps section) assuming they were downloaded from google play store.
I always/frequently send my backups to cloud storage.. for any unforeseen circumstances I lose my apps, then I can at anytime grab them from my cloud..
This is what I'm trying to avoid. I'm trying to restore these apps without having to depend upon Google or Cloud. I have turned off syncing with Google. I guess I'm a bit paranoid.
Any way. I uninstalled and reinstalled Titanium Backup and got my apps restored. Problem is it restored some apps I no longer use but must have backed them up in the past.
Will these User backups be in the TitaniumBackup folder? If so, and I delete all the backups there and do another users app backup this eill remove the apps I don't I\use and hence they wont be restored??
These might seem like dumb questions but I'm new to this stuff.
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I still don't get it!
In the Backup section of Batch... one item is "Backup all user apps" (17 user apps)
I then ran it successfully.
Now, shouldn't there be an item in the Restore section "Restore all user apps" with a total of 17 apps??
There is none.
Now, I realize I'm new to this stuff but Can anyone suggest another backup app. 'cause I believe Titanium Backup sucks.
And apparently one here has any solutions.
You're correct in stating that user apps should also show in the restore section..
In the main overview screen do all user apps show.? And do they have yellow icon next to them showing they have been backed up..
If you have pro version with unlock key, email dev/support with your problem..
To be honest with you and most xda users will agree that TB is one there most stable, reliable & one of the most needed root app..
Try using (ROM Toolbox pro/free) as good as if not better, you'll love the user interface ..
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All my user apps show up. 2 of them have a yellow smiley face next to them. All the other have green and yellow icon with what I believe to be a face. I have backed up all my user apps at least twice today hoping to see these in the restore area. I checked again and now they're there! The user apps are now showing up ion the Restore. Why they weren't there all day and all of a sudden pop up I don't know. It's not that I needed a reboot 'cause I did that right after backing up.
Maybe I should scan my phone for a virus.
I'm sorry 'bout putting the product down, it's just very frustrating. It's not the product it's me. Some of this stuff is over my head.
I'll check out your suggestion for the backup app.
I did, however find a couple of apps that seem pretty good:
App Backup and Restore
App Quarantine to freeze apps.
I have no desire to flash a new rom (if that' the proper term)
I simply want it easy to backup and restore my user apps and the freeze some apps I don't use.
Freezing can be done very easily with TB..
But once you get to good with this app, trust me it will be yet most valuable need app for you
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Roots said:
Freezing can be done very easily with TB..
But once you get to good with this app, trust me it will be yet most valuable need app for you
Yes I believe your right.
I need to work with it more.
James
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I am kinda having this problem
I have a similiar problem. But with mine is I changed the ext back up folder to a specific one, but for whatever reason titanium saves back ups to the default folder where i have other back ups.
but when i look at my apps itll say 0 bakups because the new folder i chose is empty. even though it saved them in the old folder for whatever reason.
When i switch it back to the default folder then itll recognize that i have the new backups. even though i didnt tell it to save them there.
This is what I wanted to know:
Internal storage\storage\emulated\legacy\TitaniumBackup
Is where app backups are saved.
This page will help you know about the best android apps available in the Google Play Store to create backup of important phone data and applications. You will also find some help on full system backup, that is Nandroid Backup, taken via recovery.
Quick tip: For those who would want to save on time and aren’t much keen on knowing about each of the apps we consider best for backup and restore, just know this. If your needs are simple, Super Backup android app is all you need, else go for the ROM Toolbox Lite – it’s got everything. And for storing photos, videos and songs online, you may use mega (50GB free) or SurDoc (100GB free) android app.
Before we check out the apps, let me explain some terms as regards backup.
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source : cloudandro.com/Topics/revu_6_en.html
Just got an N5. My first smartphone although I have an N7. I'm trying to move my user apps and app data from the N7 to the N5 but the process is failing. I can't find good instructions that don't assume you are restoring to the same device or assume you have an SD card you can move between devices. I've checked threads here and can't find anything.
N7 3G (2012), Android 4.2.1 Unlocked, rooted, stock ROM
N5 Android 4.4.2 Unlocked, rooted, stock ROM
Titanium backup is installed on both. N7 does TB backups and syncs to Google drive.
I created a filter on the n7 of just the apps to transfer and did another backup of those and sync'd to Google Drive. I copied the files for the ones I wanted (based on files having a just change date/time) from Google Drive to the N5 and put them in a new directory. I set the new folder as the backup folder in titanium backup. Now when I go to TB on the N5 I can see the apps but they all have a line through them. When I try to batch restore, I get a message that ### elements failed. I turned on allow unknown sources and that didn't make a difference. If I select an app in the list, I have options to uninstall or delete.
I have a feeling it would be easier to use one of the newer apps designed just for apps but I've got this far. I don't know why I can't restore them via TB.
Im not a fan of titanium backup I think its a good app but it has no place anymore in kit kat and it just kills battery and resources... Just my opinion
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I did something similar with TB and this worked for me.
I strongly suggest you do it in steps. First step is go to Play Store, My Apps, All. Manually install each app fresh. (Don't panic...keep reading). If you didn't get the app from the Play Store, then copy the apk from your N7.
Once you have them all installed (fresh new versions, yay!) now open Titanium and press the middle tab (Backup/Restore). Go down the list and just tap the individual app name...a box pops up..press Restore...box pops up...Press Data Only. Done! Move on down the list, one by one. As you discovered, you can't batch restore this. It takes time, but they'll all work.
Whatever you do...DO NOT restore data to ANY SYSTEM APPS!. We don't need seeing another thread where you rushed and borked something
In fact, before you start, back up your N5..just in case.
Have fun.
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Thanks. I ended up using the migrate feature on MyBackup Pro. It was kind of slow but less hassle than looking up 150 apps on the play store and installing them. (I'm an app addict). Some of them failed though so I'll have to do those manually and then I'll try the restore in Titanium. Not touching system apps except I wanted to move my wifi hot spots over with passwords which Titanium can supposedly do.
Wondering if I could have use OTG to back them up and then restore to the new device. Found some threads on it but not sure if it would have worked.