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Hey,
jsut thought about this thought the whole day. I´ve got a Moto XT720 (Stock ROM) and it works pretty good. Now the thing is, I have the Google Account and so on. But I do not want that Google is tracking me, has access to my phone, and that my phone can connect to google servers (Mail, Calendar, Market, SYSTEM).
Is it possible that I can delete some apk´s so that I have a real standalone mobile phone?
Sorry for my bad english,
greetings
you gotta be kidding
Google's stuff is the spirit of their OS... Android needs google's account for the market moreover.
sounds a little impossible. just make an account for the market and don't use it for anything else. Only thing i can think of.
Exactly, but he wants remove google's apps too...
He wants a total googleapplicationless Android phone. What a problem !
Thanks guys,
I do not need the market also (for what?, I have the apps I want to use)
Greets
push..no one knows it?
If you do any web browsing on any device even on a pc or iphone google and bing etc will track data about you. You can't use any device online without someone tracking you unless you use a proxy and even then the proxy could still track you.
You can delete or freeze googles apps but browsing will be tracked on any online device so only sure way is switch off wifi and mobile data.
But that defeats the point of a smartphone then.
Dave
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Maybe you should forget mobiles cause anytime you're tracked as soon as you power it on
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a guess, flash a custom rom and dont flash the google apps pack?
ICS, at least stock ICS, has the ability to disable system apps.
Settings -> Apps (under 'Device) -> 'All' tab, click an app, click "Disable". It won't be uninstalled, but it will never run, meaning it cannot connect to the internet or do anything else.
e.coli said:
ICS, at least stock ICS, has the ability to disable system apps.
Settings -> Apps (under 'Device) -> 'All' tab, click an app, click "Disable". It won't be uninstalled, but it will never run, meaning it cannot connect to the internet or do anything else.
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The problem is if he ever uses internet he will still be tracked. If he uses gps his location can also be tracked.
Dave
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mistermentality said:
The problem is if he ever uses internet he will still be tracked. If he uses gps his location can also be tracked.
Dave
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Yeah, it's a very strange request, but he could disable all internet-capable apps, and just use his phone for voice and offline apps?
He could still use GPS though, but not A-GPS. GPS just receives the signal from the satellites, this is why you can still log your position while off the cell network. It's one-way communication, so there's no way to be tracked just by listening to the GPS signal. He could download maps to the phone and use it for navigation that way.
Don't get an Android phone is my advice if you want no connection to Google.
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I agree, why would you use an google operating system, if you don't want to have any connection with google?
Android without the Android market is pretty dull, and even if you would use the amazon appstore (which is officially only working in the US/and maybe CAN) you would be stuck with only a fractal of not up to date apps, since in the amazon app store are alot of old versions flying around.
And please dont believe in the old google creep, who is sitting in front of the "internet" waiting is whole life only to set cookies in your browser. He does not exists!
I don't understand why you would want Android on your mobile device and not want google on it? Thats how smartphones work, if you don't want google on your phone I suggest you get a non smart phone.
Why so much hostility? Isn't the point of Android, and these forums, that it is so customizable? Maybe he doesn't like the new privacy policy.
Anyways, he could disable all Gapps and install Firefox or whatever, which would disconnect most of your connection to Google, but it's hard to avoid it if you want to use the internet at all.
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Why so much hostility? Isn't the point of Android, and these forums, that it is so customizable? Maybe he doesn't like the new privacy policy.
Anyways, he could disable all Gapps and install Firefox or whatever, which would disconnect most of your connection to Google, but it's hard to avoid it if you want to use the internet at all.
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I don't think anyone's been hostile, just surprised maybe as seems op wants no tracking yet to be able to use internet which can't be done except at best through a proxy.
To the op, you can root and uninstall or freeze google apps and browse via a public proxy server if you want to avoid tracking but your carrier and possibly google (the main operating systems all record your gps data inc ios android and wp7, think only wp7 was found collecting that though which is why I say possibly not probably) can still see where you have physically been via cell, gps and wifi logs.
If its just google you wish to avoid another option could be use a firewall or dns blacklist app to stop your device being able to connect to known google internet addresses.
Dave
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miro101 said:
And please dont believe in the old google creep, who is sitting in front of the "internet" waiting is whole life only to set cookies in your browser. He does not exists!
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Actually, he does:
http://www.stateofsearch.com/top-15-of-eric-schmidts-remarkable-quotes/
If you don't know by now that all of the "free" apps aren't really free, you're kidding yourself. How do you think Google makes money? It's primary purpose is collecting information. Private informtaion (even the carriers...search on the term "carrier IQ"). That is the age we live in. The best that can be done is to either throw your phone away or learn how to secure your phone and info in as much as is possible. There are apps that can identify what apps are sending what data and block them from doing so (on rooted phones). Even then, data still gets out. It's a trade-off. For now, it's used for marketting purposes. However, that much data is bound to fall into the hands of some government who will use it to control the masses. It's just too tempting, and it's the nature of humanity. So, I'll limit whatever data exodus I can and accept the trade-off for the rest (until the government {read Anti-Christ} wrests control). The old saying applies: "It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you".
I honestly don't get the point in using a smartphone with fears of being 'monitored' or tracked. If you don't want to be tracked, don't use the internet, don't use a cell phone, and live under a rock for the rest of your life. That's the best advice I can offer.
I'm trying to decide on a VPN client for the service I already have through PIA. I kept having issues with the PIA client and can't find anything online about this stock VPN client pre-installed on the s6. Can anyone she'd some light on it's worth or recommend a compatible, secure, and fast alternative?
For work, I use VpnCilla. Used it across several devices without issues. In previous cases the default vpn didn't work with our network.
My European Mate 9 came with some pre installed software out of the box, namely News Republic, WPS Office, Todoist and some others. I didn't bother to uninstall them but I did remove all permissions and mobile/wifi data access on day 1.
I run OpenDNS at home and when checking the logs today I've noticed some unusually high internet accesses to ksmobile.com , ksmobile.net , and cmcm.com
In the last 3 days there have been:
2969 (!!) requests to helpnewsrepublic1.ksmobile.com
82 requests to cm.gcm.ksmobile.com
67 to n.m.ksmobile.net
65 to ws.ksmobile.net
42 to ups.ksmobile.net
167 to ms.cmcm.com
The domains seem to belong to 'Cheetah Mobile', makers of News Republic among some other software that I've never heard before.
The strangest thing is I have never run News Republic. In fact as I've mentioned before I have disabled mobile data, wifi access and removed all permissions from day 1 yet it seems my phone is still communicating with Cheetah Mobile's servers.
Has anyone observed this behaviour with their Mate 9s? What could be going on here?
Wtf dude, that's a great find!
I'm gonna monitor that too. Let's find out.
We already lost privacy long time ago.
Listening in. Great find.
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Wow, wtf that's crazy. I'm surprised you discovered all that. Can't say I am completely surprised.
wtf! this is the first time i am using china brand mobile phone, been considered for a very long period before i shift from samsung and LG. hope it is application based not kernel built-in spyware
You are right, but the problem is cheetah mobile. If you install their apps from playstore, you will have the same problem. Their apps are very useful and free, but they send information about our phones to their servers.
I'm a user of news Republic and WPS, since several years ago, in many phones and there is always the same problem[emoji35]
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hope it is application based not kernel built-in spyware
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I've uninstalled News Republic yesterday and proactively blocked the mentioned domains on OpenDNS.com (Settings > select your network > Manage individual domains). Checking the logs today I see no blocked outbound attempts to ksmobile or cmcm which means uninstalling the app might be enough to stop it in its tracks. That's good news.
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You are right, but the problem is cheetah mobile. If you install their apps from playstore, you will have the same problem.
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Sure but that doesn't explain (nor justify) why it is establishing outbound connections when 1) I have never run the app and 2) I have disabled data/wifi access on day 1. This is bad enough for an app you've downloaded from the Play Store but even more worrying when it's a pre-installed app.
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I'm a user of news Republic and WPS, since several years ago, in many phones and there is always the same problem
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I pinpointed this to News Republic but after reading your comment I did a quick check on WPS Office and I've noticed it's made by Kingsoft which surprise surprise is the parent company of Cheetah Mobile. That's another app I'll be uninstalling then.
Even if you never run the app it still can have a background service
So 1 week after removing News Republic and WPS Office I can confirm that all suspicious traffic has stoped. OpenDNS reports 0 connection attempts in the last 7 days to any of the mentioned URLs so all's good.
Now my attention has shifted to a fairly large number of outbound connections to www.baidu.com (347 attempts yesterday alone). I noticed this on the first days of owning the device but the numbers were in the 80-100 a day. Now that the numbers have tripled I'm wondering if it's due to some rogue app that I've installed (AliExpress?) at a later time or some setting that I've enabled (HiSuite?). Connections to baidu.com don't necessarily mean something fishy is going on in the background but I still would like to know what apps exactly are causing this amount of traffic.
Unfortunately the only Android traffic monitor that I know (OS Monitor) isn't compatible with the Mate 9, or at least with my particular one. Any other suggestions? For now I've resorted to blocking baidu.com via OpenDNS and so far no apps have stopped working.
but you still use facebook ?
I've used NoRoot Firewall to take a closer look at the outbound traffic and came to the conclusion that the culprit for all baidu.com connection attempts is one (or more) of the following system processes:
Android HwResolver
Android System
androidhwext
Call Management
com.huawei.iaware
com.huawei.securitymgr
EuiReceive
FIDO UAF ASM
Fused Location
GeofenceService
HuaweiShare
HwApps
HwARService
HwChrService
HwIndexSearchObserverService
HwLBSService
imonitor
Information
Input Devices
Key Chain
MirrorShare
MMITest
Phone Manager
Power Genius
PredefinedEapSim
ProjectMenu
Settings
Settings Storage
Smart headset control
One (or more) of these processes constantly tries to connect to 103.235.46.39 (baidu.com) but unfortunately that's as detailed as NoRoot Firewall can be. Unless there's an app out there capable of telling us what process exactly is responsible for the connection attempts, the only other way to pinpoint it is by trial and error (ie disable wifi/cellular for certain system apps while keeping an eye on the OpenDNS logs until the connections stop). I don't think I'll bother though.
Once again outbound traffic to Baidu doesn't necessarily mean something fishy is going on in the background. Besides being a search engine Baidu provides cloud services similar to Akamai or Amazon AWS. Huawei might just be using Baidu Cloud Push for some of its apps.
I came searching because I found my phone reporting news republic as power hungry and recommending close. Also instagram. I have never opened either.
Using the power settings I appear to have disabled news republic.
Thanks to this thread, I've now got a longer list of apps to try and disable - its not as easy as my rooted Samsung., because I want to use android pay which precludes rooting.
I _strongly_ recommend uninstalling News Republic and WPS Office. In fact I would run a mile from anything developed by Cheetah Mobile or Kingsoft (parent company).
Regarding Instagram I suggest using Hermit ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.chimbori.hermitcrab ) to create a web app. That's what I did for a whole lot of power hungry apps and I'm happy with the results.
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enable dev options go to the bottom force the number of background apps to 1 and monitor should allow you to pinpoint the app as it will have been the only 1 running when it pinged
Hi all
Just reinstalled an app called No root firewall for android on my S8. And sadly as i have seen on other devices too there are hundreds of data access in and out from almost All the apps daily.
But one of them was really strange.
My stock gallery app wants to connect to
ec2-54-213-192-171.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com
Why and what i cant find anywhere!
Even damn samsung keyboard is trying to connect to an own adress.
Feels that you cant trust any damn application now a days.
They are all collecting info and spying on oss!
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Edit. Found out that several other apps are trying to connect to the same site. Even non samsung apps!!! And i cant find **** on Google about it
It's possible the no root firewall is using the phone's built in VPN feature to function. The VPN could be used to set the firewall restrictions.
If this is the case their VPN could be hosted thorugh amazon's web service.
This would explain why it wouldn't need root access and why several apps, including stock, are routing to the same site.
I personally recommend NetGuard for a VPN non-root firewall. It tends to route firewalled traffic back to your device, also known as "home" or loop IP 127.0.0.1. While you can download NetGuard from the play store the GitHub apk has a few extra features.
Hi, I'm a Samsung galaxy note 3 user, android version 4.4.2, I have it rooted, and xposed installed. I never installed xposed before but I installed it a couple of days ago and now I'm seeing that I can do a lot of things with it, and because of this I started wondering something.
Well, I have an app called Abematv which is a free japanese tv app that I can't use unless I connect through a japanese vpn. I do this by using an app called "japan vpn" and "openvpn connect for android". The problem with this is that sometimes is too slow and the video quality is very low. So I was wondering how could I make this app think I'm using a japanese vpn when I'm really connected to my home wifi without any vpn.
I don't know if this can be done but it sounds like it's the kind of thing that you do through a xposed module. If there's a module that can do this, I don't know how to search for it. So if anyone knows how to do this via xposed or via whatever it makes it possible, please leave a comment
Thanks
azigta said:
Hi, I'm a Samsung galaxy note 3 user, android version 4.4.2, I have it rooted, and xposed installed. I never installed xposed before but I installed it a couple of days ago and now I'm seeing that I can do a lot of things with it, and because of this I started wondering something.
Well, I have an app called Abematv which is a free japanese tv app that I can't use unless I connect through a japanese vpn. I do this by using an app called "japan vpn" and "openvpn connect for android". The problem with this is that sometimes is too slow and the video quality is very low. So I was wondering how could I make this app think I'm using a japanese vpn when I'm really connected to my home wifi without any vpn.
I don't know if this can be done but it sounds like it's the kind of thing that you do through a xposed module. If there's a module that can do this, I don't know how to search for it. So if anyone knows how to do this via xposed or via whatever it makes it possible, please leave a comment
Thanks
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Ok well first things first. Don't mention lucky patcher here. It is banned as a Warez app and app developers will add code to that purposely causes issues if it is detected.
Depending in how it is getting your location you could make the device think it is in Japan. Something like mocking the Gps.
zelendel said:
Ok well first things first. Don't mention lucky patcher here. It is banned as a Warez app and app developers will add code to that purposely causes issues if it is detected.
Depending in how it is getting your location you could make the device think it is in Japan. Something like mocking the Gps.
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Hi, I eddited the message so the words don't appear. (would be good if you edit your message so the words don't appear there too, I don't want troubles xD) Thanks.
About the gps thing, I think it doesn't use the gps since I have it disabled and the app doesn't have the permission to get the location, so I think it gets the location based on the ip.
Not all VPN services are the same. Your current VPN service may be slow because it has you connecting through Japan. Nice VPN services allow you to connect to a VPN server in your country while they route your country VPN server to the final destination VPN server. This allows you to sometimes benefit with improved connection speeds. You can do free trials with most VPN services and I recommend maybe moving to another.
Example: Normal VPN> your-device->VPN server in japan->your-device
(upload/download limits determined by home network and ISP max connections)
Higher end VPN> your-device->local VPN->VPN server in japan->local VPN->your-device
(upload/download limit between VPNs determined by VPN servers which maximize limits before passing the information to your local device)
Other info relevant to the topic:
There are many options available to a developer to verify your location in today's internet.
Even your browser for your device has a unique "fingerprint" and if your gps or IP location changes they can still verify it's coming from the same device.
There are ways around browser fingerprinting.
With most programs, there is an order or hierarchy of testing your location. Spoofing your GPS may overrule an IP check. To overcome issues it's important to try and test and try even when met with failures. It's important to not be dismissive of possible solutions when troubleshooting an issue or searching for a work-around.
TehZig said:
Not all VPN services are the same. Your current VPN service may be slow because it has you connecting through Japan. Nice VPN services allow you to connect to a VPN server in your country while they route your country VPN server to the final destination VPN server. This allows you to sometimes benefit with improved connection speeds. You can do free trials with most VPN services and I recommend maybe moving to another.
Example: Normal VPN> your-device->VPN server in japan->your-device
(upload/download limits determined by home network and ISP max connections)
Higher end VPN> your-device->local VPN->VPN server in japan->local VPN->your-device
(upload/download limit between VPNs determined by VPN servers which maximize limits before passing the information to your local device)
Other info relevant to the topic:
There are many options available to a developer to verify your location in today's internet.
Even your browser for your device has a unique "fingerprint" and if your gps or IP location changes they can still verify it's coming from the same device.
There are ways around browser fingerprinting.
With most programs, there is an order or hierarchy of testing your location. Spoofing your GPS may overrule an IP check. To overcome issues it's important to try and test and try even when met with failures. It's important to not be dismissive of possible solutions when troubleshooting an issue or searching for a work-around.
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ok thanks, I will try to spoof the gps and will comment how it worked .