it's crazy when you don't want Google on your phone for privacy,
like some devs have "google play DRM" with their app, so even if you do "APK" backup, it won't work unless you have google services and google play store.
heck, some of these apps require you to be "OnLiNe" for 24h wtf is this?
its 2022 devs should do better than this and stay a way from monopoly and anti-privacy companies.
Well put. For some apps, I have offered devs 10 to 20 USD to buy a license. Very few bother to reply. These apps might cost 2 to 5 USD on google play. My phone has no gapps installed so often I have to get these apks from other sources. In many cases I already paid for them when I had google play years ago, so I don't feel any guilt in using them. It is indeed a hassle to attempt to patch apps I previously bought to run on a phone without google as they otherwise phone home for a license check.
However when I did get a reply from a dev I bought thru Amazon and emailed the payment screenshot to the dev and they sent me a link to download an apk!
Anyone on here should be able to install an apk without an app store.
Fdroid is the only app repository I will consider putting on my phone.
Strange times indeed. Very few people understand that most of the network activity done by apps has very little to do with the apps actual functioning, in most cases. Its just a privatized big brother. I hate it.
End rant. Sorry.
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Has anyone else noticed that the Amazon AppStore seems to be cheaper than the Android (Google) Market? Apart from offering a free paid app every day, some apps seem to be less expensive. Another advantage that I noticed is that it's all in US$ and not converted from € or £; this is great because then I don't have to pay foreign transaction fees!
Only disadvantage is that you have to keep an eye on two different market places...
Shame it's not available in the UK - We can view but can't even get the free app of the day - says theservice is not available in your country...
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Shame it's not available in the UK - We can view but can't even get the free app of the day - says theservice is not available in your country...
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I know that the MarketEnabler app works for the standard android market (for root devices), but does it also work for Amazon's store? or does it pull country ID a different way?
On the Amazon AppStore, Amazon gets to adjust an app's price around. App developers are guaranteed a minimum amount of money (so when one of the apps are free for a day, Amazon is literally just paying the developer for each download!) for paid apps, but Amazon reserves more control.
Personally, I like the AppStore FAR more than the Android Market... I've never once had an issue with stuff from the AppStore totally ignoring you when you tell it to install/update something (unlike what the Market does for me somewhere from 50-90% of the time).
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I know that the MarketEnabler app works for the standard android market (for root devices), but does it also works on Amazon's store? or does it pull country ID a different way?
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My Transformer is not rooted - I don't intend to root it... not for some time - it's new so I'm "bedding it in" - see if any problems popup..
Just a shame that a company as large as amazon has not expanded the Android market into all regions yet.. and yet Kindle it appears has taken over the world. LOL
My problem with Amazon:
1. Can't turn off one-click purchase. I have purchased apps accidentally.
2. The only way to "diasble" one-click is to de-authorize the device on Amazon's website
3. Once you de-authorize a device or if you uninstall the Amazon App Store app, you can no longer use the app.
Basically, if you buy an app and then decide down the road that you don't like the amazon appstore (for whatever reason). You pretty much can't uninstall it unless you don't want access to the apps you purchased anymore. I don't think the andorid marketplace functions this way.
I am unsure if the apps even function if you don't have a wireless connection. Maybe someone can clarify this.
Also, if there is a way around this, I'd like to hear it.
As is stands now, I have about 6 paid Amazon apps and have now decided that I don't want to use the amazon appstore due to their no-refunds/can't-turn-off-one-click policy(s). So what do I do now? I am forced to leave the amazon appstore app on my device.
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My problem with Amazon:
1. Can't turn off one-click purchase. I have purchased apps accidentally.
2. The only way to "diasble" one-click is to de-authorize the device on Amazon's website
3. Once you de-authorize a device or if you uninstall the Amazon App Store app, you can no longer use the app.
Basically, if you buy an app and then decide down the road that you don't like the amazon appstore (for whatever reason). You pretty much can't uninstall it unless you don't want access to the apps you purchased anymore. I don't think the andorid marketplace functions this way.
I am unsure if the apps even function if you don't have a wireless connection. Maybe someone can clarify this.
Also, if there is a way around this, I'd like to hear it.
As is stands now, I have about 6 paid Amazon apps and have now decided that I don't want to use the amazon appstore due to their no-refunds/can't-turn-off-one-click policy(s). So what do I do now? I am forced to leave the amazon appstore app on my device.
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I understand what you are saying but it is exactly the same with Google Market; it's just not that obvious! Your device is linked to your google account and your market account is basically identical with (or part of) your google account. So if you decide you don't want to go with google anymore (which is impossible btw) you would lose all your apps as well. Does that make sense?
Ignore me, I obviously didn't read the first post.....
Hmmm. I was just shocked to see that some apps are also more expensive at amazon... Guess at the end of the day it will be very similar after all.
I bought the nexus 6 today and hate the google bloatware more than any other bloatware. When Samsung or Sony or insertcompanyhere has bloatware on their phones it makes people angry. Why do these companies continue to pump resources into developing **** no one wants to use or deal with? I don't know, and I don't believe they know either. No one makes me as angry as google in this game though, because I can't shake the feeling that they should just know better. Almost all of googles preinstalled apps can not be removed. Why? Every other app requires me to have interest, download it, use it, and then uninstall it when I lose interest. Why does google think their apps are an exception, so much so that they design android software to break if you try to remove their garbage? Can someone, anyone, link me a resource that can show me how to get rid of every google app from my phone? I don't want it disabled, I want it obliterated from my cell phone. Google +, Google Maps, Google Hangouts, Google everything but the market. Can this be done? If the baby has to be thrown out with the bathwater, what rom will give me stock android with google play ONLY, and how do I install it. And can anyone explain to me why google is so scared of their apps not being used that they consistently shove it down the throats of humanity with such violent, unrelenting force? Why can they not have all of their apps that lots of people use available for download on the market, and sell the nexus 6 with nothing but the market, giving everyone the OPTION to download their applications, and the OPTION to uninstall it when they are done, or not install it to begin with? I pray for that day to come!
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I bought the nexus 6 today and hate the google bloatware more than any other bloatware. When Samsung or Sony or insertcompanyhere has bloatware on their phones it makes people angry. Why do these companies continue to pump resources into developing **** no one wants to use or deal with? I don't know, and I don't believe they know either. No one makes me as angry as google in this game though, because I can't shake the feeling that they should just know better. Almost all of googles preinstalled apps can not be removed. Why? Every other app requires me to have interest, download it, use it, and then uninstall it when I lose interest. Why does google think their apps are an exception, so much so that they design android software to break if you try to remove their garbage? Can someone, anyone, link me a resource that can show me how to get rid of every google app from my phone? I don't want it disabled, I want it obliterated from my cell phone. Google +, Google Maps, Google Hangouts, Google everything but the market. Can this be done? If the baby has to be thrown out with the bathwater, what rom will give me stock android with google play ONLY, and how do I install it. And can anyone explain to me why google is so scared of their apps not being used that they consistently shove it down the throats of humanity with such violent, unrelenting force? Why can they not have all of their apps that lots of people use available for download on the market, and sell the nexus 6 with nothing but the market, giving everyone the OPTION to download their applications, and the OPTION to uninstall it when they are done, or not install it to begin with? I pray for that day to come!
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Let me see. Your using a Google OS on a Google device. All you need is root to remove these apps. If you search will find a project that is android without Google, but mind you that without Google's services you will lose alot of the abilities of the OS
I'm not sure if this is against the rules, I took a look but couldn't find anything pertaining to this.
My roommate and I play Dungeons n Dragons and we found an awesome application on Google Play a while back called Fifth Edition Character Sheet. I never did end up paying for it, and by the time I tried to it had been removed from Google Play. I can't find the reason why, only that it's now gone. My roommate did pay for it. The method of purchase was via in-app payment. It opened up the Google Play thing, allowed him to pay, and that was it. Unlocked full features. However he's selling his tablet and wants to transfer the app to his Phone instead. I can't find a way to do this. Anytime I've used a Save APK option it just saves the base version without the tag saying he paid for it with all features unlocked. It's brutally annoying because, well, he paid for the app. He can't install it through Google PLay anymore on his phone and will unlock automatically, it's just non-existent. I've found the APK online a few times but there were no premium/paid ones.
So my question is this. Is there anyway to save the APK while retaining the fact that it was paid for so he can use it on his phone? Otherwise we'd have to go back to using other things which suck immeasurably compared to this awesome app.
(this is a duplicate of my other thread. I realized the question doesn't ONLY apply to my old Nexus 4)
I'm trying to build an android phone with no Google apps on it, for privacy purposes.
I've got LineageOS on my rooted phone with no issues.
Getting apps is another matter. Amazon's app store doesn't even have Amazon's app, the LG store won't run on my phone. The various .apk-download sites I've seen either don't do paid apps, have outdated versions, or are basically for "cracked" apps, which i don't want to use.
Downloading .apk files can work, but most apps do not have such thing available, and I find often my phone's browsers choke on the link, and I have to download to my pc and then use adb to push the file across.
Is there a decent app store (or other app source) that isn't Google?
You could try Fdroid This is the website for Apk
Fdroid is all open source Apk's
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(this is a duplicate of my other thread. I realized the question doesn't ONLY apply to my old Nexus 4)
I'm trying to build an android phone with no Google apps on it, for privacy purposes.
I've got LineageOS on my rooted phone with no issues.
Getting apps is another matter. Amazon's app store doesn't even have Amazon's app, the LG store won't run on my phone. The various .apk-download sites I've seen either don't do paid apps, have outdated versions, or are basically for "cracked" apps, which i don't want to use.
Downloading .apk files can work, but most apps do not have such thing available, and I find often my phone's browsers choke on the link, and I have to download to my pc and then use adb to push the file across.
Is there a decent app store (or other app source) that isn't Google?
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What's wrong with Google? Whatever I have a few:
GetJar (Has not be well maintained, spam, malware etc. Lurking on there now)
SlideME (Abondon, apps are so old)
Aptoid (Has some stolen apk, malware)
TutuApp (dumb kids use it to get modded games and apps, don't go there)
The Internet (APKMirror is the best)
Google Play
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What's wrong with Google?
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1: I've decided, if possible, to act on the privacy concerns I've had about google for quite some time now
2: I'm a gun nut law abiding firearms enthusiast and don't appreciate their recent policy changes on Youtube. Since my information is the product they sell to make money, I wish to withhold it.
it might be a pipe dream, but a guy can try.
Thanks for the places to try, all.
In addition to Google Play and Amazon Appstore, I suggest Huawei App Store. http://appstore.huawei.com/
Just for your reference.
You could use the Yalp store app which is an app that will get and down load your apk from play store anonymously
You can download it here
Hi7m3up said:
You could use the Yalp store app which is an app that will get and down load your apk from play store anonymously
You can download it here
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That may be an ideal solution... use Google's store, but don't have Google's app on my phone...
Yeah ideal for people who have restriction's of some type.
You probably noticed that yalp store (well at least the yalp bit) is play store backward's "very fitting"
I'm having this problem ever since purchasing this phone, and it's really annoying. Sometimes I find out some games or apps I purchased from Google Play appear with the price tag, like if I never purchased them before. This happens also with subscriptions, I think is something about Xiaomi and Google maybe? The only solution I have found is clearing data/cache from Google services, framework and Google Play, then removing my Google account, restart the device and the sign in again with my account in Google. But doing this like every two weeks is frustrating sometimes it happen more often and I don't know what to do. I have the global version (MI) installed can someone please help? Does anyone have this issue as well? Thanks.
I got tired of the problems with Playstore paid apps and avoid them whenever possible and buy to app directly from the developer* if possible.
It's to the point now that I package and firewall block Playstore. Once a paid app is activated many times this and firewall blocking the app stops annoying "Do you wish to upgrade" etc bs.
Lol, I have Samsung Androids and similar issues. It's more like Playwhore...
*Google's pay protection is a sick joke. Just do a charge back on the card if you must. Most developers though provide good support. I haven't had issues outside of Playstore.
$5 is chump change but the time wasted trying to bring Playstore in line is far more costly!!!
Hmm, I have made purchases while being on MIUI 12.5 and MIUI 12.5 (EU) (debloated) . I had no issues with single/subscription purchases.
Are you sure you did not end up disabling some necessary background service from Google or Xiaomi?
Maybe a hard reset or switching to a debloated version of MIUI might help but this sounds more like a particular service not functioning properly.