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Hi all,
I have an interesting problem to pose to the techies amongst you.
I have just managed to get my dream car and now need to integrate my phone without paying the huge sums being asked for by the car manufacturers and some aftermarket electronic suppliers (car ICE specialists too). My phone is currently a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and the car has MOST optical audio and satnav systems.
I'm after 3 distinct, yet simultaneous, solutions, which are : -
A/ power supply to the phone
B/ HDMI or RCA output to a dash mounted 5 inch lcd screen for satnav purposes
C/ audio output to link into the car's current MOST audio system (head unit in the dashboard, also running the car's hvac, and the amplifiers are in the boot)
My first thought was to open up the USB 3 cable and to run individual wires to 3 separate plugs for each of the 3 solutions listed above. At this point many of you may be laughing at my clearly very poor understanding of modern electronics, particularly USB, and I would not argue that at all - I'm a complete dimwit here! Obviously (I think...) the clear solution is in the fact that USB can run different objectives simultaneously.
So... I run my USB 3 CABLE from the phone to a (presumably powered?) USB 3 hub and have 3 appropriate cables plugged in and running respectively to A/ a USB cigarette lighter socket, B/ an hdmi (or RCA, or composite?) plug and C/ to a standard stereo headphone jack or socket.
I don't think A/ will work because I don't see power going from the socket back through the hub and into the phone. Suggestions welcomed as I can't see how to get power to the phone at the same time as having a USB cable supplying data out. Or is there power over USB through a hub available?
B/ seems straightforward enough.
C/ the audio then needs to go to an analog to digital / wired to optical adapter and then a 2 into 1 optical switch (so I can still have the existing output from the head unit) before plugging into the amplifiers. These 2 adapters are easily available through eBay, Amazon or Maplins as far as I can see. The issue I foresee here is will the head unit still be able to control volume, fade, etc of the signal coming from the phone? If the control of the amplifiers happens via the optical cables then presumably that won't happen if I've used a switch to change the source? Would taking the output from the phone's headphone socket be of any benefit? I doubt it as the output power from there may be quite a bit higher than from the USB port...
So you can see that I clearly need some knowledgeable direction here or I will be forever going round in ever decreasing circles!
Many thanks in advance for any help given. Cheers, Mark
Hi.
I just receved my medeke 7862 6g/128gb.
I got everything working but I couldn't get the reverse camera to show.
I have kia K7 2012 premium package with 6v factory camera.
I already located the reverse wire from original stereo harness and step it down to 6v and feed it to camera power cables. I also connected Video cables from the camera to CAM VIN in the new unit. I found in camera harness cable marked with IR I don't know what is it for?
When I put the reverse I get black screen only. I tried to look for camera setting but there is none.
I didn't conncet any reverse wire to the unit so how it is knowing the reverse position?
Any ideas please?.
mkb_1989 said:
Hi.
I just receved my medeke 7862 6g/128gb.
I got everything working but I couldn't get the reverse camera to show.
I have kia K7 2012 premium package with 6v factory camera.
I already located the reverse wire from original stereo harness and step it down to 6v and feed it to camera power cables. I also connected Video cables from the camera to CAM VIN in the new unit. I found in camera harness cable marked with IR I don't know what is it for?
When I put the reverse I get black screen only. I tried to look for camera setting but there is none.
I didn't conncet any reverse wire to the unit so how it is knowing the reverse position?
Any ideas please?.
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What does reseller suggest when contacted for support. What has been tried to resolve issue
He didn't reply.
I have a Navifly 7862 head unit and up until now have not bothered to add a rear cam to integrate into the head unit. My car has a separate factory rear cam that has the monitor integrated into the rear vision mirror.
So due to a rainy weekend, I decided to add a new AHD cam. Cam is wired to the reverse light. My 6m RCA plus power lead at the head unit gets 11 volts when reverse gear is triggered. The RCA gets about 0.5 volts.
The options to connect to the 11 (12) volt red power to the head unit are wires called "Camera B+" (red), "IR" (grey), "Brake In" (pink) and two different unnamed yellow wires that are all running from the same connector from the head unit.
The 11 volt red power is connected to Camera B + yet when in reverse the head unit screen does not change. I have tried the live 11 volt line on IR, Brake In and the 2 yellow wires to try and get the head unit to switch to rear cam mode but I cannot get that to happen.
eve if the camera was faulty, I would expect to see the head unit change from home screen to a blank screen that states "no signal" or similar.
Can anyone suggest what the issue might be. I have looked through the settings but am yet to find anything to force the head unit to change to rear cam mode.
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I have a Navifly 7862 head unit and up until now have not bothered to add a rear cam to integrate into the head unit. My car has a separate factory rear cam that has the monitor integrated into the rear vision mirror.
So due to a rainy weekend, I decided to add a new AHD cam. Cam is wired to the reverse light. My 6m RCA plus power lead at the head unit gets 11 volts when reverse gear is triggered. The RCA gets about 0.5 volts.
The options to connect to the 11 (12) volt red power to the head unit are wires called "Camera B+" (red), "IR" (grey), "Brake In" (pink) and two different unnamed yellow wires that are all running from the same connector from the head unit.
The 11 volt red power is connected to Camera B + yet when in reverse the head unit screen does not change. I have tried the live 11 volt line on IR, Brake In and the 2 yellow wires to try and get the head unit to switch to rear cam mode but I cannot get that to happen.
eve if the camera was faulty, I would expect to see the head unit change from home screen to a blank screen that states "no signal" or similar.
Can anyone suggest what the issue might be. I have looked through the settings but am yet to find anything to force the head unit to change to rear cam mode.
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Go to factory settings and find a setting called "Prohibit Reverse", switch this setting and try again.
ludditefornow said:
I have a Navifly 7862 head unit and up until now have not bothered to add a rear cam to integrate into the head unit. My car has a separate factory rear cam that has the monitor integrated into the rear vision mirror.
So due to a rainy weekend, I decided to add a new AHD cam. Cam is wired to the reverse light. My 6m RCA plus power lead at the head unit gets 11 volts when reverse gear is triggered. The RCA gets about 0.5 volts.
The options to connect to the 11 (12) volt red power to the head unit are wires called "Camera B+" (red), "IR" (grey), "Brake In" (pink) and two different unnamed yellow wires that are all running from the same connector from the head unit.
The 11 volt red power is connected to Camera B + yet when in reverse the head unit screen does not change. I have tried the live 11 volt line on IR, Brake In and the 2 yellow wires to try and get the head unit to switch to rear cam mode but I cannot get that to happen.
eve if the camera was faulty, I would expect to see the head unit change from home screen to a blank screen that states "no signal" or similar.
Can anyone suggest what the issue might be. I have looked through the settings but am yet to find anything to force the head unit to change to rear cam mode.
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By the way...
You are forcing 12V into the Videosignal line... What are you doing there?
I just had a look at your attached picture. You should not wonder if the radio is now in the eternal hunting-grounds.
If you don´t know how to install a radio, please search for one who can do that without burning down your car. On top the 12V line just twisted together... Whow...Never seen someone doing such bad things in one single posting.
rigattoni said:
By the way...
You are forcing 12V into the Videosignal line... What are you doing there?
I just had a look at your attached picture. You should not wonder if the radio is now in the eternal hunting-grounds.
If you don´t know how to install a radio, please search for one who can do that without burning down your car. On top the 12V line just twisted together... Whow...Never seen someone doing such bad things in one single posting.
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I have temporarily twisted the wire for testing purposes. I solder and heat seal connections when confirmed. Are you always this critical of people?
So what voltage should be fed to the Camera B + line?
The directions was to tap into the reverse light (which is 12 volt) and send that to the power line that runs parallel with the RCA. Are you suggesting that I shouldn't?
Well how about helping here instead of criticising, please, if you know better.
ludditefornow said:
I have temporarily twisted the wire for testing purposes. I solder and heat seal connections when confirmed. Are you always this critical of people?
So what voltage should be fed to the Camera B + line?
The directions was to tap into the reverse light (which is 12 volt) and send that to the power line that runs parallel with the RCA. Are you suggesting that I shouldn't?
Well how about helping here instead of criticising, please, if you know better.
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Not critical- post is accurate and suggests finding a skilled installer to assist you. Poking power on to the head unit wires without understanding is a sure way to break the unit or vehicle.
marchnz said:
Not critical- post is accurate and suggests finding a skilled installer to assist you. Poking power on to the head unit wires without understanding is a sure way to break the unit or vehicle.
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There are 5 in lines to tap.
The literature that came with the cam as well as all videos online from the likes of Joying that I found show a 12v tap from the rear reverse light for the trigger.
You posted recently about 4PDA not being wanted at XDA because the silo knowledge.
Are you not willing to take a few minutes to actually share knowledge when there is a direct lack of knowledge from suppliers?
Well I found the issue and somehow 'managed' not to destroy my head unit, my car, my house or the local power station.
All connections are nicely soldered and heat shrink wrapped now that I have a permanent fix.
The initial attempt at connecting the 12v line to Camera B + as noted on other how tos did not work.
To stay in the spirit of XDA (unlike the postings of some) I would like to advise that the wiring diagram from Navifly was incorrect.They have the pin 2 on the main connector as the reverse that feeds the CAN module. Pin 2 carries a constant 12v. Pin 3 (pink on my HU connector) carries zero voltage. I tapped pin 3 pink wire on the way to the CAN and added the red daughter wire on my 6m long RCA cable.
My red daughter wire is fed 12v from my rear reverse lamp. Reverse lamp also feeds the reverse cam.
I hope this assists someone in future.
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ludditefornow said:
Well I found the issue and somehow 'managed' not to destroy my head unit, my car, my house or the local power station.
All connections are nicely soldered and heat shrink wrapped now that I have a permanent fix.
The initial attempt at connecting the 12v line to Camera B + as noted on other how tos did not work.
To stay in the spirit of XDA (unlike the postings of some) I would like to advise that the wiring diagram from Navifly was
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You did it. Thanks for posting your findings, I believe this has been posted about before.
I wouldn't recommend projecting at those that have actually spent hours to days developing methods, tools and helping others here.
All that because of the canbus. i believe they send you a canbus box that only works for steering wheel buttons and nothing else. i had the same problem and solved it like you did.
ludditefornow said:
To stay in the spirit of XDA (unlike the postings of some) I would like to advise that the wiring diagram from Navifly was incorrect.They have the pin 2 on the main connector as the reverse that feeds the CAN module. Pin 2 carries a constant 12v. Pin 3 (pink on my HU connector) carries zero voltage. I tapped pin 3 pink wire on the way to the CAN and added the red daughter wire on my 6m long RCA cable.
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Sorry to say, but the wiring diagram is not really incorrect. It always depends on the aftermarket cam you use. But it is never a good idea to feed 12V into a CPU which just expects a video signal.
...and if you have a look at the wiring diagram of the camera, it shows 2 different ways to get the cam feeded with 12V.
The first one is the yellow connector which has a red wire coming out.
If you would have used this one, plug it into the "CAM IN" connector of your unit and the red one to the Back wire of your unit you would have been okay.
Using the back light to feed the camera is in most cases not necessary.
By the way... As I have seen that you feed the Video-In chinch-connector with 12V, I really was the meaning that you even don´t know anything about that what you did. I just gave the tip to search someone who knows what he does. I didn´t see any chance to start from scratch to teach you how to do.
I am on top really pissed if I see someone just wiggling cables together.
I just counted 1+1 and decided that I have to stop you doing strange things, which could lead to shorts and such things.
So... if it is working now as expected: Fine! ...and thanks for posting.
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Sorry to say, but the wiring diagram is not really incorrect. It always depends on the aftermarket cam you use. But it is never a good idea to feed 12V into a CPU which just expects a video signal.
...and if you have a look at the wiring diagram of the camera, it shows 2 different ways to get the cam feeded with 12V.
The first one is the yellow connector which has a red wire coming out.
If you would have used this one, plug it into the "CAM IN" connector of your unit and the red one to the Back wire of your unit you would have been okay.
Using the back light to feed the camera is in most cases not necessary.
By the way... As I have seen that you feed the Video-In chinch-connector with 12V, I really was the meaning that you even don´t know anything about that what you did. I just gave the tip to search someone who knows what he does. I didn´t see any chance to start from scratch to teach you how to do.
I am on top really pissed if I see someone just wiggling cables together.
I just counted 1+1 and decided that I have to stop you doing strange things, which could lead to shorts and such things.
So... if it is working now as expected: Fine! ...and thanks for posting.
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First, the diagram is incorrect and has nothing to do with the aftermarket cam. He didn't feed any 12v to video signal, the red wire is the trigger for the head unit to switch to reverse cam input, the 12v from the head unit is to feed the camera and doesn't need to be connected when you feed the camera from the reverse light. When you put the reverse the head unit must switch to reverse cam input if the canbus box is correct for your car, in this case and mines as well it isn't. The wire he shows came from the canbus box must have 12v when you put in reverse but no 12v
leo06 said:
First, the diagram is incorrect and has nothing to do with the aftermarket cam. He didn't feed any 12v to video signal, the red wire is the trigger for the head unit to switch to reverse cam input, the 12v from the head unit is to feed the camera and doesn't need to be connected when you feed the camera from the reverse light. When you put the reverse the head unit must switch to reverse cam input if the canbus box is correct for your car, in this case and mines as well it isn't. The wire he shows came from the canbus box must have 12v when you put in reverse but no 12v
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Sorry, but you are wrong.
The head unit reacts on a voltage difference to switch to the back view camera. It´s not needed to have 12V feeded to the head unit.
CAM-IN from the head unit expects the video signal nothing else.
rigattoni said:
Sorry, but you are wrong.
The head unit reacts on a voltage difference to switch to the back view camera. It´s not needed to have 12V feeded to the head unit.
CAM-IN from the head unit expects the video signal nothing else.
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Sorry, you are wrong. The cam in expects video and that what gets. The 12v from the head unit is to feed the camera but if you already feed the camera with reverse light not needed to be connected. If the canbus box worked properly, all will work too. Do you have the head unit and everything is working? The diagram is incorrect because the brake ctl is not the brake ctl but the reverse camera trigger
marchnz said:
You did it. Thanks for posting your findings, I believe this has been posted about before.
I wouldn't recommend projecting at those that have actually spent hours to days developing methods, tools and helping others here.
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I searched thoroughly and did not find the answer. Why didn't you link me to the answer?
Based on your condescending and unhelpful posts to me, I don't see why projecting at you in this instance is not unwarranted. You had the answers and you chose to not assist. You siloed.
"Prohibit Reverse", was a total red herring and forced me to add more variables into my testing. I now had to test multiple software options and wiring config as well as the incorrect Navifly info very time consuming.
If you feel I need to be banned for calling out this condescending, repugent and unhelpful responses. Go ahead. I have helped more people in this site than I have received and frankly I don't want to be a part of something where your attitude is acceptable.
If you haven't fixed it. I had the same problem with different HU.
I tought my camera or my wiring at the back of the car was wrong.
The reverse camera (12+) signal cable from the back reverse light goes to the REVERSE or BACK cable mostly at the main harness of the HU. In my case it was orange green from XTRONS.
The other red cable at the Rerverse Camera Video In harness is the so called "CAMERA POWER CABLE 12v" it's very irritating that both cable are red and have something to do with camera.
After restarting the HU it worked.
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Sorry, you are wrong. The cam in expects video and that what gets. The 12v from the head unit is to feed the camera but if you already feed the camera with reverse light not needed to be connected. If the canbus box worked properly, all will work too. Do you have the head unit and everything is working? The diagram is incorrect because the brake ctl is not the brake ctl but the reverse camera trigger
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That wire ( A5? ) isn't it meant to tell the headunit to switch to the reverse camera? Because if I would disconnect the reverse camera, it would still be triggered and show a black screen with the car on the left.
But no image, as the reverse camera is off: the wiring diagram that Mekede and also Ekiy provided was correct. Just there are two methods, one for when you need to use Canbus. And the other more common method, which uses the reverse light for trigger and to power the reverse camera.
DexterMorganNL said:
That wire ( A5? ) isn't it meant to tell the headunit to switch to the reverse camera? Because if I would disconnect the reverse camera, it would still be triggered and show a black screen with the car on the left.
But no image, as the reverse camera is off: the wiring diagram that Mekede and also Ekiy provided was correct. Just there are two methods, one for when you need to use Canbus. And the other more common method, which uses the reverse light for trigger and to power the reverse camera.
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it is swapped, the brake ctl is the reverse camera trigger. In navifly there is no lose cable for triggering, the cable is connected to the canbus box and if that is not working you have to cut the wire and connect the red cable to reverse light and to headunit
Hello @ludditefornow , my iDoing head unit have the same your error. Screen blank when back cable to 12v
I bring mine to a repair center, this error from damaged ic named tp9950
You can search, this tp9950 to control the camera signal
I can not replace this ic, and waiting for new ic, i hope new ic will resolve the camera error.
If you have other solution, please share.
Thank you.
nguyenlaman said:
Hello @ludditefornow , my iDoing head unit have the same your error. Screen blank when back cable to 12v
I bring mine to a repair center, this error from damaged ic named tp9950
You can search, this tp9950 to control the camera signal
I can not replace this ic, and waiting for new ic, i hope new ic will resolve the camera error.
If you have other solution, please share.
Thank you.
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Hi Laman, the issue for me was that the wiring diagram from Navifly was incorrect. Look here at wiring. https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...g-hu-into-rear-cam-mode.4479369/post-87280853
When I had the cam wired I needed to put the car in reverse and on the back screen I long pressed on the screen and some options popped up. After that I had cam work.
Let us know if that works for you.
Guys, please help me.
I've installed my Android unit, all okish, but I'm having trouble with the reverse camera.
The instructions are identical with the photo posted by ludditefornow, just in black and white.
The camera connector that goes into the unit has the yellow video jack labeled cam in. Then it has 3 other wires: IR, Break and CCD.
The little red wire on the cable is connected to the IR wire. On the other end it's connected to the 12v reverse light cable.
When in reverse, the unit switches, the parking sensors appear, but there's no picture.
The unit has 2 modes for the reverse camera, AHD (which the camera is supposed to be), and TV. I've tried them both.
One time, just once, the camera showed a black and white, scrambled picture.
I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Please help.
I'll attach a photo with the current wiring.
Hi,
I'm looking for new android device as replacement for my Bosch stock nav in Suzuki Vitara 2018 GLX. I'm looking at Teyes CC3 or Mekede M500S. I do have few prerequisites
must have options
- compatibility with stock rear camera
- compatibility with steering wheel commands
- compatibility with stock microphone
- compatibility with stock USB ports
nice to have options
- compatibility with stock GPS module (maybe by using FAKRA adapter?)
So far all info I got for M500S is that it cannot use stock rear camera. Is it true? Can it be done with some adapters?
Thank you.
Racker_CRO said:
Hi,
I'm looking for new android device as replacement for my Bosch stock nav in Suzuki Vitara 2018 GLX. I'm looking at Teyes CC3 or Mekede M500S. I do have few prerequisites
must have options
- compatibility with stock rear camera
- compatibility with steering wheel commands
- compatibility with stock microphone
- compatibility with stock USB ports
nice to have options
- compatibility with stock GPS module (maybe by using FAKRA adapter?)
So far all info I got for M500S is that it cannot use stock rear camera. Is it true? Can it be done with some adapters?
Thank you.
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My Mekede M500s does all 4 of those (oem mic, usb, swc and oem reverse camera on my Kia Sportage.
It just depends on your cars camera, and whether the reseller supplies the necessary adapters.
For example with my car I had to add 2 terminals to the wiring Mekede sent me in order to get the oem mic working.
The head unit was capable of all 4 options you want but the wiring sent to me only supported 3 of the 4.
Look in to your cars camera, what format the video is, what connector it uses, and see if you can find a seller offering a cable to connect the camera just in case 1 doesn't come with the unit.
j0hn83 said:
My Mekede M500s does all 4 of those (oem mic, usb, swc and oem reverse camera on my Kia Sportage.
It just depends on your cars camera, and whether the reseller supplies the necessary adapters.
For example with my car I had to add 2 terminals to the wiring Mekede sent me in order to get the oem mic working.
The head unit was capable of all 4 options you want but the wiring sent to me only supported 3 of the 4.
Look in to your cars camera, what format the video is, what connector it uses, and see if you can find a seller offering a cable to connect the camera just in case 1 doesn't come with the unit.
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Thank you. I decided to go with Mekede and I bought adapter cable for rev camera. It should all arrive in 2 weeks so I will know than if that was a good choice .
Today I got my stock radio out so I can note all connectors and maybe map them with M500S ones.
Here is a picture of stock Vitara Bosch head unit with description for each connector
GPS - you need FAKRA to SMA adapter
ANT - provided with M500S radio
DAB - you need to buy USB DAB device and FAKRA to SMA adapter (antenna you get with USB radio is not needed)
AUX - not used
MIC - this will be an issue since M500S doesn't have any connector for using stock mic in roof
CAM - you need extra adapter so you can use your stock camera with M500S
USB - compatible with M500S connector + you will get 2 extra USB connectors you can use
H BRAKE - not used on M500S, on stock one you need it to set up AA or mirrorlink
ISO/MAIN - speakers, power, etc.
So only one issue remains and that is how to use stock mics. This is all theoretical for now because I'm still waiting for unit and adapters.
Br.
So device came and of course there are issues.
- USB OEM cable is NOT compatible with M500S port for one USB
- I cant get reverse camera to work. I even bought THIS cable but any way I connect it it doesn't work as it should. I either have revers picture all the time or I don't have it at all.
If anyone can help with camera I would appreciate it. M500S reverse cable has 3 wires labeled "IR", "BRAKE" and "12V CAMERA". Main ISO plug has one purple labeled "BACK". If I connect purple, red and blue from adapter I have picture from camera all the time (shift in any position, neutral, drive, reverese). If I connect only red and purple same thing but with black screen and guidelines.
Racker_CRO said:
So device came and of course there are issues.
- USB OEM cable is NOT compatible with M500S port for one USB
- I cant get reverse camera to work. I even bought THIS cable but any way I connect it it doesn't work as it should. I either have revers picture all the time or I don't have it at all.
If anyone can help with camera I would appreciate it. M500S reverse cable has 3 wires labeled "IR", "BRAKE" and "12V CAMERA". Main ISO plug has one purple labeled "BACK". If I connect purple, red and blue from adapter I have picture from camera all the time (shift in any position, neutral, drive, reverese). If I connect only red and purple same thing but with black screen and guidelines.
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The camera should be fairly simple to fault find but the wiring depends on whether you are using a canbus or not.
Answer that and someone will help with connecting the camera properly.
No canbus is used nor it is need for Vitara as I was told.
I'm guessing purple REV wire should get power once I put it in reverse and switch screen to backup camera. I measured voltage on blue wire from adapter and there is no voltage while in reverse.
Solved it! Reverse signal 12V was coming from HANDBRAKE connector. I added extra wire from that pin to purple and blue wires and everthing works.
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So device came and of course there are issues.
- USB OEM cable is NOT compatible with M500S port for one USB
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Is this what you're looking for?
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Is this what you're looking for?
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YES! Thank you
Cable arrived and works like a charm. So far I managed to get almost all parts in Vitara to work with Mekede unit except external OEM mic. It will take some testing and soldering.
Hi,
This is a complete rewrite of post #1 as I don't want others to do the stupid things I have done.
When you connect a a reverse camera to your uis7862 or uis8581a unit and you have a CANbus, you simply use the connections as displayed below in the image in post #2 => + wire to the CAM 12V and the RCA plug to the yellow CAM VIN.
Next to that: Have a good look at the last image of post #19 of @Matt Devo where he explains very clearly how it should be done.
And finally: look at post #25 to see what my stupid mistake was.
If you have canbus then you should connect this harness to your unit and marked wire is power wire. I'm not sure if you are talking about this.
Do your unit goes into reverse mode (screen with lines and parking sensor) but without image from camera or doesn't go into this screen at all?
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If you have canbus then you should connect this harness to your unit and marked wire is power wire. I'm not sure if you are talking about this.
Do your unit goes into reverse mode (screen with lines and parking sensor) but without image from camera or doesn't go into this screen at all?
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I have that harness indeed, and I forgot to mention that I have also connected my +-wire to that 12V CAM wire.
That doesn't work either.
When I set my car in reverse and switch on the parking lines, they are displayed. If I turn my steering wheel they even nicely curve further or less. I simply do not have an image.
Anyway: I just saw a video where the guy says that you should not connect GND in the back to the chassis, but leave it disconnected. I didn't try that yet, but I will try that in a few hours as well.
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If you have canbus then you should connect this harness to your unit and marked wire is power wire. I'm not sure if you are talking about this.
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I just tested it. When I put the car in reverse, there is no 12V on the CAM 12V wire no. 2 in the picture. There is never 12V on that wire.
However, there is ~13V on the trigger wire when setting the car in reverse.
Connecting the GND wire to GND or not, doesn't make a difference either. I also checked the cables. I get low resistance over the connection, which seems (to me) that the cables are correct.
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Anyway: I just saw a video where the guy says that you should not connect GND in the back to the chassis, but leave it disconnected. I didn't try that yet, but I will try that in a few hours as well.
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I have cvbs camera and I have GND connected to the chasis and it works. Also when I had MTCD device before I had GND just isolated and it also worked.
marjanoos said:
I have cvbs camera and I have GND connected to the chasis and it works. Also when I had MTCD device before I had GND just isolated and it also worked.
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I am getting a little desperate. I almost get the idea that the camera itself is not working.
surfer63 said:
I just tested it. When I put the car in reverse, there is no 12V on the CAM 12V wire no. 2 in the picture. There is never 12V on that wire.
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There are settings regarding powering the back camera. I don’t remember where exactly right now.
If that won’t work then your canbox doesn’t support reverse camera (very strange though) or you have wrong canbox settings.
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I am getting a little desperate. I almost get the idea that the camera itself is not working.
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Well you could try to deliver 12v from another source to check that. For example from fuse box etc or reverse light.
marjanoos said:
Well you could try to deliver 12v from another source to check that. For example from fuse box etc or reverse light.
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Yes, but the trigger wire does deliver 12V.
marjanoos said:
There are settings regarding powering the back camera. I don’t remember where exactly right now.
If that won’t work then your canbox doesn’t support reverse camera (very strange though) or you have wrong canbox settings.
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Do you mean "Settings -> Factory -> Reverse power supply"?
That is to change ACC/Cont in case your car harness/CANbus is wired incorrectly (or the unit, whichever you blame for it).
But to make sure, I just tested it.
Still no 12V on that 12V CAM wire. Not normally, not in reverse, not after rebooting and testing again.
surfer63 said:
Yes, but the trigger wire does deliver 12V.
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I’m not an electrician but if that’s digital signal then it may not be a reliable source of power.
surfer63 said:
Do you mean "Settings -> Factory -> Reverse power supply"?
That is to change ACC/Cont in case your car harness/CANbus is wired incorrectly (or the unit, whichever you blame for it).
But to make sure, I just tested it.
Still no 12V on that 12V CAM wire. Not normally, not in reverse, not after rebooting and testing again.
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Yes I meant this setting. It’s kind of strange that you don’t have 12v on that wire.
You could also try to use multimeter to assure if cable supplied with camera isn’t damaged.
surfer63 said:
I also checked the cables. I get low resistance over the connection, which seems (to me) that the cables are correct.
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marjanoos said:
I’m not an electrician but if that’s digital signal then it may not be a reliable source of power.
Yes I meant this setting. It’s kind of strange that you don’t have 12v on that wire.
You could also try to use multimeter to assure if cable supplied with camera isn’t damaged.
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I said it was a "digital" signal as I meant that it is 0V or 12V, so it is behaving "binary".
However, there are 3 videos on Youtube who do exactly as I described in post #1 using that trigger wire, and they do have a working camera.
Using that backlight power supply is when you don't have a CANbus. Also Joying explains that in one of their videos to use (what they call) the "Back" wire on the unit, and not the back light power supply. Edit: But that might also be the same CAM 12V wire that you mention.
And liked quoting myself above: I already checked the cable. I will get a transformer and simply put 12V on the cable and see what it does. Instead of relying on the head unit.
surfer63 said:
Hi,
I (finally) decided to buy a reverse camera for my Mekede as I lately have neck issues (one gets older).
(I did read the "Teyes CC3 reverse camera help!" thread, which I assume is 95% equal, but still slightly different, so I created a new thread for Mekede/NaviFly)
Car: Skoda Octavia 2015
Unit: Mekede FYT 500S (uis7862)
It is this camera, the 4th in the row. The 170 degrees 1280x720.
As I have a CANbus, I did NOT connect to the reverse light 12V in the back of the car, but I connected my power(+) to the 3rd trigger wire, as supposed for a CANbus. (And just to be sure I watched some youtube videos about "head unit reverse camera canbus")
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This trigger wire is a "digital" wire. When not in reverse gear it is 0V. When putting the gear in reverse it sets 12V on the wire. I measured this with a multimeter and it sets indeed 12V (actually slightly more) on the trigger wire.
So on unit side I connect the CAM plug on the CAM IN plug (not the yellow RCA plug) and the red wire to the pink (on Mekede units) trigger wire.
And on the other side, in the back of my car, I connect the red +-wire of the camera to the red +-wire of the extension cable and the ground wire to the chassis.
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As I have a 720p AHD camera, I set the "format" in Settings -> Factory -> HD Reversing format" to AHD and the setting to ON. As this didn't work I already tried the other setting, which (of course) didn't work either. And by now I rebooted at least 25 times
As I am a "technical software guy" and not a "hardware guy", I hope that someone can tell me what I am doing wrong.
Edit: I added my camera type up in the post.
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I'll just add that i had similar experience and for my issue it came down to my failed attempt to use those wire splicing attachments........well after pulling my hair out i checked and found out they weren't making the electrical connection.......scraped those and soldered the wire contacts instead...... that was the fix for me.
P.s (not using canbus, but reverse light power and ground)
louforgiveno said:
I'll just add that i had similar experience and for my issue it came down to my failed attempt to use those wire splicing attachments........well after pulling my hair out i checked and found out they weren't making the electrical connection.......scraped those and soldered the wire contacts instead...... that was the fix for me.
P.s (not using canbus, but reverse light power and ground)
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If you solder cables in your car you have to make sure you sealed the connection properly. I used once standard isolating sleeve (without any sealing glue) and the connection rotten because of the moisture.
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P.s (not using canbus, but reverse light power and ground)
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That is one of the reasons I waited so long for buying a camera. My car is a "liftback" model where the camera is in the trunk lid. The tail lights, incl. the reverse light, is in the body of the car. I would have needed another 3 meters of cable only to connect the camera power to the back light power, or split it somewhere in the body in the big cable bundle , which would also require about 2 meters of extra cable and something I really did not want to do.
As I also miss a lot of "tech talk", I only recently learned that I do not need the backlight power at all, but can use the 12V from the unit.
However, so far not working.
I did check with my multimeter and do measure 12V on the spliced/connected wires. I do have 12V and correct cables (measured the resistance).
marjanoos said:
If you solder cables in your car you have to make sure you sealed the connection properly. I used once standard isolating sleeve (without any sealing glue) and the connection rotten because of the moisture.
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Thanks!
Reminded me i need to hit those points with liquid electrical tape !
Your camera is connected to CAM VIN (Shown in reply #2 as image 4)?
Have you tried cutting the white cable loop on your camera that switches between ahd/cvbs?
I have an identical unit to you and my oem camera connected and it "just works" (with both ahd setting enabled and disabled).
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1. Your camera is connected to CAM VIN (Shown in reply #2 as image 4)?
2. Have you tried cutting the white cable loop on your camera that switches between ahd/cvbs?
3. I have an identical unit to you and my oem camera connected and it "just works" (with both ahd setting enabled and disabled).
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1. Yes, it is connected to the CAM VIN, although on my cable it says correctly CAM IN.
2. Yes, I did cut the white loop wire (and the green loop wire), and temporarily reconnected the white loop wire (and green loop wire) again to test. But with or without cut white loop wire: no image.
3. You lucky guy
if your canbus box is correctly decoding the reverse msg and signaling the HU to switch to the reverse camera input, then the canbus part is working properly, and the issue is camera power.
On the M500, the HU provides +12v on pin F7 when switching to the reverse camera input via CAN trigger. You should *NOT* connect the camera power directly to the CAN reverse trigger (pin G5 on the main plug). F7 connects to the power lead on the RCA wire. The other end of the power lead connects to the red camera + wire. The black/ground wire does not need to be connected; these cameras use the same ground for the video shield so the RCA plug is providing ground already.
CAM +12v is red wire here:
How I wire up the units I sell:
Thanks for your extensive answer (and as soon as I have a working situation I will make photos like that as well. Very helpful)
The 3rd image with the plug is showing the CAM IN RCA plug (the black wire) and the red CAM 12V wire.
The problem in my case is that that red CAM 12V wire never gets 12V, whereas the the trigger wire (G5 in your first image) does get 12V when I put my gear in reverse..
How do I get 12V on that red 12V wire?
Like I asked in post #10: "Do you mean "Settings -> Factory -> Reverse power supply"?"
Do I need to set that to ON?
I tried that but still no 12V. Do I need to do something else? I rebooted the unit but I did not give it a reset (RST).