Hi, Does any know if its all vice versa?
AT&T LTE phone and T-Mobile LTE phone using it with a T-Mobile SIM, (vice versa) T-mobile & A&T LTE phone using AT&T SIM?
(Both LTE phone is same model type also unlocked & using in urban BIG city)
Will there be any difference speed LTE and speed 3G & 4G you receive?
Will the LTE signal not be as strong each other?
Will be any problem each other (vice versa)?
Which hardware AT&T or T-Mobile device (same model) is better having multi-LTE or more compability network each other (freq band spectrum)?
I don't really know much about LTE signals between AT&T and T-Mobile, compatibility, etc. So, I was wondering if you can help me to decide which one are those? How long to get unlock code from the 1st day i purchased with full price AT&T and T-Mobile device?
Please...please... help for answer & information. I'm very appreciate and thank you so much for explanation everything. :good::victory:
P.S. Sorry & apologize about my bad english
hi just purchased a USA htc win phone ,does anyone know if 4g will work in UK ,if so witch provider cheers
no body tried then
not much happening here then
Not sure
I have just bought from USA a HTC One M8 T-Mobile 0P6B140 which I have unlocked. It is working fine but although it shows it is on Vodafone UK 4G, using the app NET CHECK it reports 3G HSDPA/HSUPA 57mbit. The only thing that I haven't got working is MMS. I have entered the APN details for my contract Vodafone sim which I found on the net, and there are various, but it tells me it cannot send and to contact mobile op. for settings.
As for the 4G, I live in a rural area it may be that Vodafone are transmitting on band 20 (800 MHz) and this phone doesn't support that. Vodafone only have the 800 and 2600 frequencies, band 7 and 20. My phone uses 3 (1800), 4 (AWS). 7(2600), 13 (not sure). I might be wrong with these.
Overall I am pleased, the phone is superbly built and it gives me something to think about!
I have the mms working fine, it was just the APN/MMS settings. So it is just the 4G not working but I can stream video from my synology ds214play with the 3g HSDPA/HSUPA.
Hi, LTE support depends on which carrier version you are bringing to Europe. My Verizon version did not work because it supports only "non-European" LTE Bands.
Now that I am using the AT&T version I can use full LTE in Europe (except the 800mhz band, which doesn´t matter for my country).
Be also aware that AT&T and obviously T-Mobile change the firmware so the phone will display 4G when in reality it is on 3.5/3.75G and LTE when it is on real 4G.
Cheers,
T.
Hello guys. I had a T-Mobile Galaxy S7 but i sold it months ago so now i wanted to go back to the Galaxy so i got the international unlocked S7 G930F. I notice to start that it does not says 4GLte never only 4G. So i was thinking maybe the international name for 4GLte is just 4G so i let it pass but now i notice places where i had 3 or 4 bars 4gLte on the tmobile one, with international one i see 1 or 0 bard 3g or H+. Until now i have no call drop. But my question is. Is the T-Mobile better for signal to use on tmobile network or is the tmobile showing me fake signal while the international is showing me the real deal? I still have time to return it and get the tmobile one i just got it for the 8 core processor. Oh and i have a nexus 5x and he connect to LTE too were the G930F connects 4G and the nexus is unlocked too so i dont undestand.
darkdhanil said:
Hello guys. I had a T-Mobile Galaxy S7 but i sold it months ago so now i wanted to go back to the Galaxy so i got the international unlocked S7 G930F. I notice to start that it does not says 4GLte never only 4G. So i was thinking maybe the international name for 4GLte is just 4G so i let it pass but now i notice places where i had 3 or 4 bars 4gLte on the tmobile one, with international one i see 1 or 0 bard 3g or H+. Until now i have no call drop. But my question is. Is the T-Mobile better for signal to use on tmobile network or is the tmobile showing me fake signal while the international is showing me the real deal? I still have time to return it and get the tmobile one i just got it for the 8 core processor. Oh and i have a nexus 5x and he connect to LTE too were the G930F connects 4G and the nexus is unlocked too so i dont undestand.
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Hi mate
4G or 4Glte they are the same , marketing mostly , some firmware show it as 4G other as 4GLTE or LTE all are the same
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/feature/mobile-phone/whats-difference-between-4g-lte-3605656/
Regarding signal strength the only way to know who is saying the true is with a signal meter , apps like PhoneInfo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2709931
have a monitor where it shows you the signal strength in dbm and not just an image , with a dbm value you can truly compare
MAX 404 said:
Hi mate
4G or 4Glte they are the same , marketing mostly , some firmware show it as 4G other as 4GLTE or LTE all are the same
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/feature/mobile-phone/whats-difference-between-4g-lte-3605656/
Regarding signal strength the only way to know who is saying the true is with a signal meter , apps like PhoneInfo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2709931
have a monitor where it shows you the signal strength in dbm and not just an image , with a dbm value you can truly compare
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Thanks man. I used LTE Discovery and they both connected to LTE using band 4 and the strength is the same. They both turn to full GSM while on call and then back to LTE band 4 after call. So is marketing thanks.
darkdhanil said:
Thanks man. I used LTE Discovery and they both connected to LTE using band 4 and the strength is the same. They both turn to full GSM while on call and then back to LTE band 4 after call. So is marketing thanks.
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That sounds about right , voice calls use GSM , unless your regions have VoLTE , LTE is used only for data . cool is all clear now
my oprator 4g+ work on band b3 & b7 but my phone just show 4g on statu bar but other phone like samsung show 4g+ on same area.my rom is 8.2.2 global stable.
is mi 5s plus suppport 4g+?
Maybe don't support
But I cannot call or receive calls only one SIM card work for call I use two operator
Irancell SIM card on slot 1 have internet and call other slot don't work internet and call then change sim card in slots HAMRAHawal can call in other slot irancell only have 4g internet and cannot call
When say problems with this phone in Miui forum manager banned me and don't help
I very very angry when saying problems and manager miui banned me why ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The xiaomi is cheating and cheaters the people of word and don't help the rubber is better than xiaomi
Pretty sure only SIM slot 1 supports 4G, slot 2 is 3G. I didn't buy it for the dual SIM stuff so I have only tested the first SIM slot and have had no problems with 4G.
As for 4G+, that is just a branding thing. 4G+ is 4G. there is no difference. The only reason that some phones put 4G+ on their status bar is just that they modified the icons in the ROM.
see - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
If the phone says 4G, you are gettign 4G. The important quote on that page is:
Confusion has been caused by some mobile carriers who have launched products advertised as 4G but which according to some sources are pre-4G versions, commonly referred to as '3.9G', which do not follow the ITU-R defined principles for 4G standards, but today can be called 4G according to ITU-R. Vodafone NL for example, advertised LTE as '4G', while advertising now LTE Advanced as their '4G+' service which actually is (True) 4G. A common argument for branding 3.9G systems as new-generation is that they use different frequency bands from 3G technologies ; that they are based on a new radio-interface paradigm ; and that the standards are not backwards compatible with 3G, whilst some of the standards are forwards compatible with IMT-2000 compliant versions of the same standards.
4G+ is just true 4G. So if the Mi 5S Plus says 4G, you are getting 4G (or 4G+ as they are identical).
You can verify this with any LTE bandwidth monitor apps (such as signal spy) which will tell you that you are on LTE and which band you are on and you will know then that you are on 4G.
Hi mates. I'm living in Netherlands ...have problem with 4g..
My phone doesn't support band 20 ( 800 mhz )..
Is there an option to access 4g?...
Maybe flashing a custom ROM ?...
thanks
bmg002 thanks for your help.the app like signal spy does not work on my phone because of my phone is not rooted.do you know any app that i see network aggration without root?
offhand, I do not know of any non-root tools for getting any information about what network you are on.
My next best bet would be to get some bandwidth testing tool (speedtest for example) and then check what speeds you are getting out of 4G and compare that with what your provider claims you should be getting. My provider gives me 750 Mbit/s as a peak speed, and 250 Mbit/s average. If your speeds are close to that, then that is all that really matters. If it indicates 4G or 4G+ or 4G LTE or whatever indicator it says in the top, if your speeds are slower than what you are paying for, you will want to look at rooting and opening up some of the 4G channels which will likely give you better speeds.
If you still have your old phone, do a speed comparison in speedtest (or equivalent) and see if it is faster or slower on the new phone. If it is marginally slower (or faster) that can likely be ignored. If they are drastically different, then I'd look at rooting and unlocking other channels.
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Hi mates. I'm living in Netherlands ...have problem with 4g..
My phone doesn't support band 20 ( 800 mhz )..
Is there an option to access 4g?...
Maybe flashing a custom ROM ?...
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If you need to access 4G and your operator only supports band 20, then your only option is to use a different phone. From everything I've read on this forum, the hardware has been modified to not support band 20 due to licensing concerns. So a custom ROM or custom Kernel will not affect being able to use band 20. There is no way around it at this time that I am aware of.
Now, if your provider uses a band other than band 20 (or uses 20 and another band), then you can open up the other bands. There are several posts about doing that.
bmg002 said:
Pretty sure only SIM slot 1 supports 4G, slot 2 is 3G. I didn't buy it for the dual SIM stuff so I have only tested the first SIM slot and have had no problems with 4G.
As for 4G+, that is just a branding thing. 4G+ is 4G. there is no difference. The only reason that some phones put 4G+ on their status bar is just that they modified the icons in the ROM.
see - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
If the phone says 4G, you are gettign 4G. The important quote on that page is:
Confusion has been caused by some mobile carriers who have launched products advertised as 4G but which according to some sources are pre-4G versions, commonly referred to as '3.9G', which do not follow the ITU-R defined principles for 4G standards, but today can be called 4G according to ITU-R. Vodafone NL for example, advertised LTE as '4G', while advertising now LTE Advanced as their '4G+' service which actually is (True) 4G. A common argument for branding 3.9G systems as new-generation is that they use different frequency bands from 3G technologies ; that they are based on a new radio-interface paradigm ; and that the standards are not backwards compatible with 3G, whilst some of the standards are forwards compatible with IMT-2000 compliant versions of the same standards.
4G+ is just true 4G. So if the Mi 5S Plus says 4G, you are getting 4G (or 4G+ as they are identical).
You can verify this with any LTE bandwidth monitor apps (such as signal spy) which will tell you that you are on LTE and which band you are on and you will know then that you are on 4G.
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Everything you say is just false.
it is really easy
4G : 150MB/s max
4G+ : (phone connected to two 4G frequencies) 300MB/s max
4G++ : (three 4G frequencies) 600MB/s max
Xiaomi MI 5s is supposed to support up to three 4G frequencies at the same time BUT, in a lot of case, like here, in france, band 3 (1800Mhz) and band 7 (2600Mhz) are the two compatible 4G freq, BUT Mi5S Plus can't connect to 2 freq simultaneously and we don't really know the reason, in china it's not FDD LTE but TDD lte and it works, maybe it just doesn't work on FDD...
This is what we are asking to dev, find a way to enable dual or triple 4G freq in FDD LTE to acces high speed 4G.
I'm sure it's somthing to do with modem or kernel modification :S
Best regards
At the risk of starting a flame war, could you cite your sources on that?
I believe the speeds you quoted are wrong. Telus up here in Canada operates on 4G LTE version 8 which supports up to 750 Mbps max, but to expect average speeds around 200 Mbps (http://www.telus.com/en/sk/mobility/network/). NOTE - 750 Mbps is 93 MB/s approximately. Mind you, independant studies show that average speeds are closer to 20 Mbps for telus ().
Now, correcting my previous post - I was incorrect about our phones supporting 4G+. I misinterpreted the wikipedia article.
Looking at GSM Arena for our phone, it only supports LTE and thus not 4G+ (http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_5s_plus-8350.php). If you look up the galaxy S8+ for example, it supports LTE-A which would be 4G+.
We can read about LTE-A here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_Advanced
and you can see which speeds different carriers offer here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
For example, Telus, which I am on, only recently added support for category 11 - 600 Mbps.
The 4G++ that you speak of I believe is LTE-A Pro (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_Advanced_Pro). But they are not referring to it as 4G++ but as 4.5G or 4.5G Pro.
Looking at this article - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_devices_with_LTE_Advanced#Xiaomi - it appears that our phones do not support 4G LTE-A. What is a little confusing is that the 5s does support LTE-A.
I could be mistaken, but I am pretty sure it is a hardware restriction to not support LTE-A.
baptisteba said:
Everything you say is just false.
it is really easy
4G : 150MB/s max
4G+ : (phone connected to two 4G frequencies) 300MB/s max
4G++ : (three 4G frequencies) 600MB/s max
Xiaomi MI 5s is supposed to support up to three 4G frequencies at the same time BUT, in a lot of case, like here, in france, band 3 (1800Mhz) and band 7 (2600Mhz) are the two compatible 4G freq, BUT Mi5S Plus can't connect to 2 freq simultaneously and we don't really know the reason, in china it's not FDD LTE but TDD lte and it works, maybe it just doesn't work on FDD...
This is what we are asking to dev, find a way to enable dual or triple 4G freq in FDD LTE to acces high speed 4G.
I'm sure it's somthing to do with modem or kernel modification :S
Best regards
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At the risk of starting a flame war, could you cite your sources on that?
I believe the speeds you quoted are wrong. Telus up here in Canada operates on 4G LTE version 8 which supports up to 750 Mbps max, but to expect average speeds around 200 Mbps (http://www.telus.com/en/sk/mobility/network/). NOTE - 750 Mbps is 93 MB/s approximately. Mind you, independant studies show that average speeds are closer to 20 Mbps for telus ().
Now, correcting my previous post - I was incorrect about our phones supporting 4G+. I misinterpreted the wikipedia article.
Looking at GSM Arena for our phone, it only supports LTE and thus not 4G+ (http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_5s_plus-8350.php). If you look up the galaxy S8+ for example, it supports LTE-A which would be 4G+.
We can read about LTE-A here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_Advanced
and you can see which speeds different carriers offer here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
For example, Telus, which I am on, only recently added support for category 11 - 600 Mbps.
The 4G++ that you speak of I believe is LTE-A Pro (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_Advanced_Pro). But they are not referring to it as 4G++ but as 4.5G or 4.5G Pro.
Looking at this article - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_devices_with_LTE_Advanced#Xiaomi - it appears that our phones do not support 4G LTE-A. What is a little confusing is that the 5s does support LTE-A.
I could be mistaken, but I am pretty sure it is a hardware restriction to not support LTE-A.
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After some search, Mi5S Plus is only 4G+ intraband and not with interband 4G+
I sold mi5s plus and buy redmi 5 plus better
I don't say mi 5s plus used for 4g or4gplus
I say only my phone don't getting call
Or internet in sim1 by one operator change operator in sim1 to irancell operator only have internet cannot call or get call
The problem is from www.hamta.com must phone registered in this site in Iran for use
Hello dear u should unlock all lte band for using 4g+ in iran i tested this phone in uae and china have 4g+
How can I do it? I just installed Lineage 17 and only appear LTE. I am in Italy and with a brand new P40 Pro Huawei peak download is ~150 mbps but with mi5s plus this is the best can achive.
While Qualcom specs speak of 600mbps for the X12 modem inside the Snapdragon 821
MMyco1 said:
Hello dear u should unlock all lte band for using 4g+ in iran i tested this phone in uae and china have 4g+
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Thanks to this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-how-to-unlock-bands-and-5g-on-700mhz.4114679/post-84040943 and Network Signal Guru app, I know that available bands for this phone are unlocked.
Why only poor performance on this phone? How to improve them?
baptisteba said:
After some search, Mi5S Plus is only 4G+ intraband and not with interband 4G+
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I really don't understand why there has been so few attention in respect of this feature so central for a modern smartphone...
hi all,
I need new phone that work in US on TMO LTE
does it support all TMO current bands and it works?
for example Poco does on paper, but can't register to TMO LTE, so no usage.
thanks
Works perfectly on tmobile.
Yes
which bands?
how much speed do you see?
thanks
Best phone you can get for TMo.
I have tried it with speedtest side by side with the TMo flagship display phones in the TMo store (e.g. SGS9) and the 6 slaughters them all.
It uses all bands from T-Mobile for LTE 4, 12 and 71 which is the newest 600mhz spectrum they bought last year.