How is everyone finding the volume in regards to calls? I found mine a bit low. Now I do have hearing issues and there is a built in hearing test to change around the different frequencies. Similar to a real hearing assessment. I did this and it improved greatly (clarity etc), I was super excited when I found this feature
I'll have to look at that feature. Coming from an s9+ I didn't notice any perceptible decrease in volume, at least compared to that (old) phone.
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How is everyone finding the volume in regards to calls? I found mine a bit low. Now I do have hearing issues and there is a built in hearing test to change around the different frequencies. Similar to a real hearing assessment. I did this and it improved greatly (clarity etc), I was super excited when I found this feature
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turn on dolby atmos it will make everything lowder
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Hello all,
I'm not a developer, but I am a music producer. If any of you devs want custom ringtones for your ROMs just let me know and I'll be happy to help out! You guys rock.
I would love to see some actual good music turned into ringtones. Nothing obnoxious but something that definetly loud and noticeable. Biggest downisde ive always seen is most ringtones are to soft and cant be heard even with the volume up or they sound distorted.
asadjewonxmas said:
I would love to see some actual good music turned into ringtones. Nothing obnoxious but something that definetly loud and noticeable. Biggest downisde ive always seen is most ringtones are to soft and cant be heard even with the volume up or they sound distorted.
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That's probably to avoid clipping and speaker damage. I think some cell phones also have limiters on them to cap the output no matter how loud the audio file is. This is especially noticeable on the iPhone.
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That's probably to avoid clipping and speaker damage. I think some cell phones also have limiters on them to cap the output no matter how loud the audio file is. This is especially noticeable on the iPhone.
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Just to be fair... the iPhone speaker sucks. Flat out.
The volume limiters for the speaker are in the kernel. The thing is that it's not a dynamic limiter, so it can't adjust the gain for quiet ringtones. The ringtones have to have a decent gain to begin with.
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Just to be fair... the iPhone speaker sucks. Flat out.
The volume limiters for the speaker are in the kernel. The thing is that it's not a dynamic limiter, so it can't adjust the gain for quiet ringtones. The ringtones have to have a decent gain to begin with.
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True that. I tend to do some quick-and-dirty mastering for ringtones to bring them up to commercial volume.
I've been an iPhone user since the 3GS, and one of my main uses for it was for listening to music. The Nexus 5 being my first android device, I found that the sound quality out of the headphone jack is different but still very good (better stereo separation then what I was getting on my iPhone 4, but low frequencies seem cut off and treble seems a bit boosted.)
Unfortunately, the volume is way too low for anything outside of private listening (even then, it's barely sufficient.) It definitely will be annoying trying to listen outdoors or even in a noisy room.
I've been searching here and a few other places (mostly head-fi) and found that low volume has been a common complaint among most android devices. Here and on other android centric forums, people recommend getting the volume booster apps. I tried them and wasn't satisfied. For the most part they don't really work. It seems that all they do is boost the EQ, which is definitely not a solution.
Unfortunately, since most people on head fi are audio geeks, their solution is to grab a bulky external headphone amp, which I am not even considering.
What stood out to me was that some of the more knowledgeable people recommended swapping kernels, which, if its a solution to my problem, at this point is the only reason I see for rooting the device.
I see some threads about changing out the kernels on other phones, but will I need to wait until they are customized for the N5, or are they pretty universal? And is this usually the best solution for this problem?
Thanks a lot guys.
Strange as mine is perfectly loud enough. Are you a bit deaf perhaps? Or maybe you haven't turned the volume up to max (it has a limit to protect your hearing, which you must consent to go any louder by tapping the conformation).
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Yes, this is a common issue amongst Android phones, particularly for those who route the headphone jack to a car stereo or something similar.
The best way to handle is through a custom kernel. I've used Faux123's kernel and his companion "Faux Sound" app to do this, though other kernels also have sound features. It's global through the system, so no worrying about boosting EQs in individual apps, etc.
Kernel hacking for the N5 is well under way in the "Original Android Development" section. Good luck!
A
PS. Rooting has a lot of advantages. There's really few reasons NOT to root.
The solution to all this is quite simple: buy in ears. Even without sound those things give you private space in the crowd. Then volume on 60-70% is more then enough for me.
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supercakefish said:
Strange as mine is perfectly loud enough. Are you a bit deaf perhaps? Or maybe you haven't turned the volume up to max (it has a limit to protect your hearing, which you must consent to go any louder by tapping the conformation).
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Lol my hearing is actually fine. For in the house, I'm fine (I'm not even cranking it all the way up.) It's for outdoors and other high noise environments (the gym, planes, buses, trains, etc.) that I am concerned. Also, when I plug the auxiliary cable from the headphone jack to my cars line in, I will have to crank the volume up higher than I did with my iphone, putting unnecessary stress on my car stereo.
I went into settings ---> sound ---> Volumes and adjusted there. But it when I adjust the volume there, it is the same adjustment as the volume rocker. Is there another place where I can adjust that safety limit you mentioned? If you can point me toward that, I would greatly Appreciate it!
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Alpione said:
Yes, this is a common issue amongst Android phones, particularly for those who route the headphone jack to a car stereo or something similar.
The best way to handle is through a custom kernel. I've used Faux123's kernel and his companion "Faux Sound" app to do this, though other kernels also have sound features. It's global through the system, so no worrying about boosting EQs in individual apps, etc.
Kernel hacking for the N5 is well under way in the "Original Android Development" section. Good luck!
A
PS. Rooting has a lot of advantages. There's really few reasons NOT to root.
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Thanks a lot! Let me rephrase, this is my priority! haha, I'm sure I'm going to have a lot of fun with android customization.
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QUOTE=J_Dutch;47230653]The solution to all this is quite simple: buy in ears. Even without sound those things give you private space in the crowd. Then volume on 60-70% is more then enough for me.
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I am using in ears- Klipsch S4. I've been thinking about ordering the double flange tips.
Thanks!
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I've been an iPhone user since the 3GS, and one of my main uses for it was for listening to music. The Nexus 5 being my first android device, I found that the sound quality out of the headphone jack is different but still very good (better stereo separation then what I was getting on my iPhone 4, but low frequencies seem cut off and treble seems a bit boosted.)
Unfortunately, the volume is way too low for anything outside of private listening (even then, it's barely sufficient.) It definitely will be annoying trying to listen outdoors or even in a noisy room.
I've been searching here and a few other places (mostly head-fi) and found that low volume has been a common complaint among most android devices. Here and on other android centric forums, people recommend getting the volume booster apps. I tried them and wasn't satisfied. For the most part they don't really work. It seems that all they do is boost the EQ, which is definitely not a solution.
Unfortunately, since most people on head fi are audio geeks, their solution is to grab a bulky external headphone amp, which I am not even considering.
What stood out to me was that some of the more knowledgeable people recommended swapping kernels, which, if its a solution to my problem, at this point is the only reason I see for rooting the device.
I see some threads about changing out the kernels on other phones, but will I need to wait until they are customized for the N5, or are they pretty universal? And is this usually the best solution for this problem?
Thanks a lot guys.
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If you find a solution to make the volume louder PLEASE LET ME KNOW... I AM A BIT DEAF, PROBABLY WHY IM YELLING... But seriously I need it way louder
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If you find a solution to make the volume louder PLEASE LET ME KNOW... I AM A BIT DEAF, PROBABLY WHY IM YELLING... But seriously I need it way louder
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Also why are ppl saying the easy solution is to buy headphones Wtf Lol a little more expensive...
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I know there are quite a few complaints about the speaker/sound quality on the N5, but I'm wondering if I'm actually experiencing a situation different than the typical complaints. When I have my volume at max, the sound is distorted and "vibraty" (it gives off that vibrational distorted sound, if that makes any sense). Is that what most people are experiencing? I want to make sure that I don't have a defective device, and that this horrid sound quality is the phone "working as intended."
Thanks in advance.
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I know there are quite a few complaints about the speaker/sound quality on the N5, but I'm wondering if I'm actually experiencing a situation different than the typical complaints. When I have my volume at max, the sound is distorted and "vibraty" (it gives off that vibrational distorted sound, if that makes any sense). Is that what most people are experiencing? I want to make sure that I don't have a defective device, and that this horrid sound quality is the phone "working as intended."
Thanks in advance.
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There are allready custom kernels that improve sound and loudness in the original dev. thread, you might look there to improve sound if you`re not happy bro.
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There are allready custom kernels that improve sound and loudness in the original dev. thread, you might look there to improve sound if you`re not happy bro.
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I appreciate the response. I heard that Google is sending out an update for both the sound and camera issues. I'd like to see what they take care of before I flash anything. I'm enjoying stock.
But I was wondering if the sound I'm experience is also what everyone else is experiencing. It sounds good at middle volumes, but slightly distorted at max volume. Is that normal?
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,,, enjoying stock ... wondering if the sound I'm experience is also what everyone else is experiencing. It sounds good at middle volumes, but slightly distorted at max volume. Is that normal?
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Is it normal, I can't say - IMO, it's to be expected and that's me. Take a look at the size of that mono speaker and it is by Bose, right - ain't no way it's going to compete with my 8-speakers/subwoofer Bose system setup @ home that cost a bit, urrrhhh. And, it's not going to deliver stage live quality for listening in any challenging environment - but, tune your expectations & you will be happy. I put on a decent pair of noise-cancelling audio headset & tweaked the equalizer settings, wow - I'm satisfied.
This is XDA and as others noted, there are patches & workaround but there is only so much we can do to overcome hardware limitations with design specifications. Look at the true HD screen itself - actually, it sounded pretty good paired with a Big Blue bluetooth travel speaker.
Just sit back, I would be surprised if the speaker isn't stressed out at max output with boosting & continued to work - I can live with a bit of distortion if that's the tradeoff. You can always RMA and wait for a new one to see if it's better (newer production batch #) - can you send it back & willing to wait, I won't as I will not let this beauty out of sight - too busy exploring KitKat and it's functions.
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Is it normal, I can't say - IMO, it's to be expected and that's me. Take a look at the size of that mono speaker and it is by Bose, right - ain't no way it's going to compete with my 8-speakers/subwoofer Bose system setup @ home that cost a bit, urrrhhh. And, it's not going to deliver stage live quality for listening in any challenging environment - but, tune your expectations & you will be happy. I put on a decent pair of noise-cancelling audio headset & tweaked the equalizer settings, wow - I'm satisfied.
This is XDA and as others noted, there are patches & workaround but there is only so much we can do to overcome hardware limitations with design specifications. Look at the true HD screen itself - actually, it sounded pretty good paired with a Big Blue bluetooth travel speaker.
Just sit back, I would be surprised if the speaker isn't stressed out at max output with boosting & continued to work - I can live with a bit of distortion if that's the tradeoff. You can always RMA and wait for a new one to see if it's better (newer production batch #) - can you send it back & willing to wait, I won't as I will not let this beauty out of sight - too busy exploring KitKat and it's functions.
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Great response. Thank you. I think I'll simply look past it. I always have headphones on anyway, and I'm pleased with the output in that department. Cheers.
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Hey gang,
I know that this is one of the reported issues of this phone, but bear with my question.
Now I've manually using Root Explorer upped the volume of the headphones and the speaker, both are in effect and the headphones are effectively overly loud (excellent) however the loudspeaker is louder, but ringtones and sms play with distortion on certain items, which obviously because i increased the volume, it does mean quiet sources like youtube are easier to hear, and generally only the bass suffers, but my real question here is, what is a quiet loudspeaker and what is a normal loudspeaker on this phone?
Some people have suggested calling Google for a RMA, but I'm thinking other than this issue, the phone is perfect, I don't want Google giving me a phone worse off then my current one, yet because of the internetz I dunno whether i'm expecting too much out of the loudspeaker or if it genuinely has an issue.
Can anyone suggest what i should expect out of the handset? I mean before increasing the volume it was crystal clear, but a little on the quiet side, now it's louder but can be distorted depending on the audio thoughts? can someone describe a bad loudspeaker to me?
Thanks to those who reply..
Luke.
Expect distortion when the sound is loud enough to hear in a room with an average amount of ambient noise.
What you have sounds normal to me. You won't get enough volume to easily hear it above other noise with out distortion the physical speak is just to small.
Also be careful there is a fix coming from Google soon make sure you revert your changes before you install it in case Google has done some speaker tweaking of thier own.
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Well thats good enough for me. I'm ok with the quality of the speaker, but not impressed.
I did a little test with my Lumia 1020, and the volume of the N5 @ 70% is equal to 1020 @ 22/30
The difference is the Lumia can go to 30/30 with no distortion.
So it's as loud as the Lumia up to a point.
Good tip, i'll adjust it, when the update hits. Thanks man.
Well thats good enough for me. I'm ok with the quality of the speaker, but not impressed.
I did a little test with my Lumia 1020, and the volume of the N5 @ 70% is equal to 1020 @ 22/30
The difference is the Lumia can go to 30/30 with no distortion.
So it's as loud as the Lumia up to a point.
Good tip, i'll adjust it, when the update hits. Thanks man.
Bought s8+ on the 6th, no problems till I played music while playing a game. No game in particular, they all do it. I'm a spotify user, enter an app and my volume decreases not by volume by button but physically, I have to maximize my volume to get back the sound I had before entering the application. Otherwise it's far too quiet. Not sure if a bug but there's no option to turn this off. Irritating. Anyone else know how to turn off?
I use spotify and other music apps but my sound it low with any headphones have volume full to max aswell
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I use spotify and other music apps but my sound it low with any headphones have volume full to max aswell
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I have the same problem. Don't think there's anything to be done about it, the DAC inside the phone is just not that good. Pretty disappointing to be honest.
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I have the same problem. Don't think there's anything to be done about it, the DAC inside the phone is just not that good. Pretty disappointing to be honest.
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Sound stage is highly subjective. No two individuals will enjoy the same music genre nor the way its reproduced. Some listeners prefer heavy 'boom boom' base while others enjoy a 'bright higher pitched' overall tone, then there's the billions in between those extremes.
One has to be realistic with a mobile phone that performs so many tasks. We read an awful lot about the camera, got to the point where many look at the camera before they even consider signal strength etc? No mobile can, nor should, match a DSLR. Same with the sound reproduction. One cannot compare the quality of sound against a dedicated high res player like the Astel&Kern costing 3k or similar stand alone mobile players. It has to be a question of compromise.
I never use the camera. I do listen to music an awful lot that is why I have spent many thousands of € buying various dedicated high res players. Problem is obvious. Summer day in shorts who wants to carry an DSLR, Dedicated Digital audio player and a mobile phone?
The S8+ sounds fine when paired with decent head phones either on ear or over ear plus ear buds. Many are enjoying the AKG developed ear buds that came with the mobile. I DON'T like the AKG ear buds, that is personal taste though.
Non the less considering the S8+ does so many things so well I cannot fault its sound reproduction considering its a mobile phone
If you desire a true hifidelity portable sound then you are going to have to dig very deep into your pockets. Putting that proposition to one side the S8+ can produce a very acceptable sound for the masses including myself who is a hifi junkie.
Suggestion. Try a number of different head gear ranging from ear buds to on ear head phones. OBVIOUSLY when using the on ear or around ear head phones volume will be affected as the S8+ is not designed to power such head sets even though it does a bloomin good job! When using ear buds you can achieve a high volume. Bluetooth are another option though sound quality does degrade accordingly.
So, all in all its compromise but Samsung has balanced the equation rather well. Again personal taste will always be a major factor eg, I don't enjoy the sound stage LG mobiles produce even though many people do. If you are looking for an exceptional sound stage from a mobile phone try out the Sony range, they should be good being the masters of portable hifi from the off. I enjoy both the Sony and Samsung sound reproduction but give the edge to Sony on most occasions.
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ynrozturk said:
I have the same problem. Don't think there's anything to be done about it, the DAC inside the phone is just not that good. Pretty disappointing to be honest.
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Are you on the Exynos version as well? Maybe it's an Exynos problem, my Snapdragon S8+ has no problem running my Sennheiser HD700's, plenty loud at half volume. (Sounds pretty good too I might add)
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Bought s8+ on the 6th, no problems till I played music while playing a game. No game in particular, they all do it. I'm a spotify user, enter an app and my volume decreases not by volume by button but physically, I have to maximize my volume to get back the sound I had before entering the application. Otherwise it's far too quiet. Not sure if a bug but there's no option to turn this off. Irritating. Anyone else know how to turn off?
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I had the same problem on my Oneplus 3T so I do not think it is hardware related. (I was playing pokemon GO while listening to music)
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Are you on the Exynos version as well? Maybe it's an Exynos problem, my Snapdragon S8+ has no problem running my Sennheiser HD700's, plenty loud at half volume. (Sounds pretty good too I might add)
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Yep, Exynos version.
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Ryland Johnson said:
Sound stage is highly subjective. No two individuals will enjoy the same music genre nor the way its reproduced. Some listeners prefer heavy 'boom boom' base while others enjoy a 'bright higher pitched' overall tone, then there's the billions in between those extremes.
One has to be realistic with a mobile phone that performs so many tasks. We read an awful lot about the camera, got to the point where many look at the camera before they even consider signal strength etc? No mobile can, nor should, match a DSLR. Same with the sound reproduction. One cannot compare the quality of sound against a dedicated high res player like the Astel&Kern costing 3k or similar stand alone mobile players. It has to be a question of compromise.
I never use the camera. I do listen to music an awful lot that is why I have spent many thousands of € buying various dedicated high res players. Problem is obvious. Summer day in shorts who wants to carry an DSLR, Dedicated Digital audio player and a mobile phone?
The S8+ sounds fine when paired with decent head phones either on ear or over ear plus ear buds. Many are enjoying the AKG developed ear buds that came with the mobile. I DON'T like the AKG ear buds, that is personal taste though.
Non the less considering the S8+ does so many things so well I cannot fault its sound reproduction considering its a mobile phone
If you desire a true hifidelity portable sound then you are going to have to dig very deep into your pockets. Putting that proposition to one side the S8+ can produce a very acceptable sound for the masses including myself who is a hifi junkie.
Suggestion. Try a number of different head gear ranging from ear buds to on ear head phones. OBVIOUSLY when using the on ear or around ear head phones volume will be affected as the S8+ is not designed to power such head sets even though it does a bloomin good job! When using ear buds you can achieve a high volume. Bluetooth are another option though sound quality does degrade accordingly.
So, all in all its compromise but Samsung has balanced the equation rather well. Again personal taste will always be a major factor eg, I don't enjoy the sound stage LG mobiles produce even though many people do. If you are looking for an exceptional sound stage from a mobile phone try out the Sony range, they should be good being the masters of portable hifi from the off. I enjoy both the Sony and Samsung sound reproduction but give the edge to Sony on most occasions.
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Thanks for your input. I know where you're coming from because I think the same. I'm a musician so audio is kind of a big part of my life. I don't buy a phone expecting it to have the power of my DAC's or amps at home - but I want it to be decent at least. The S8's isn't decent - far from it. I've thrown a number of headphones and IEM's at it and it still performs poorly - because the DAC inside is poor. It really is that quite simple. I don't expect it to run my Beyerdynamic T1's or anything, lol. But I do expect it to run my IEM Shure or Sennheisers at least decently, which it doesn't.
I also agree about the camera part. While I do appreciate a good camera in my phone, when I go out to take pictures I would much rather have my Sony A7RII with me, along with some Zeiss glass.
Ironic that once it was the Exynos versions (Note 3) that had premium audio (Wolfson DAC) while the Snapdragon phones languished. Now it seems it's the exact opposite, lots of complaints from the Exynos crowd and nothing but praise from the Snapdragon set. I personally have the US ATT version (SD835 + Aqstic DAC) and the sound quality is superb, both with full custom Shure SE-535Vs and Sennheiser HD-700s (directly driven from the phone). Definitely a step up from my S7E.
For reference I'm also a musician with a pretty good idea of what real instruments sound like (9ft Concert Grand in my living room).