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i had gifted him android phone few months back but he dint liked it
he told its complicated for my age
now i want to buy a simple and fluid webos phone for my old father
can u suggest which model should i go for
phone should b fast and fluid
i need a gsm unlocked phone
i need your suggestion
Pre 2 or Pre 3 if u ask me...Pre 3 might work out better because of its larger (and higher res) screen and keyboard. They should both be fluid enough for all tasks.
The Veer is also a good choice; the build quality is excellent, and is still speedy. 4g is also nice. And you can get one for $50 without looking hard. Small screen? Yes. Charger is odd too. But for a basic phone, it works well, and on a Straight Talk bring your own GSM phone, economical.
SIROSISOFLIVER said:
...on a Straight Talk bring your own GSM phone, economical.
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LOLz - I don't think they have Straight Talk in Bahrain where the OP is from.
Important for you is getting a European model - NOT North American - so that your comm board is compatible with the carriers in Bahrain.
Veer or Pre 3 might be a good choice to get 4G data speeds - but for ease of use with any GSM carrier and a more proven model go with the Factory Unlocked GSM Pre 2... Just my humble opinion.
i want to buy moto g but its hard for me to find which model is better?
single sim or dual?
google play version or not?
i mean which one have better xperiance?
normally we love google play versions . but here we have a motorola.i had not any motorola cellphons before
which one is better? motorola roms and suport? or the google ones?
which one have better roms and support and development?
single sim? dual sim?
tanx alot.and exm for my english.
I depends on your needs and your network. Do you need dual Sim?
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Durteedee said:
I depends on your needs and your network. Do you need dual Sim?
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if the dual sim is like sigle sim in all things( roms-performance-development)-you know for example galasy s and galaxy s dual arent like together-
i wana get dual sim
but if not.no problem.i will use single sim
imean aim asking you about the performance-roms- support -development
tnx again
It's like the single sim. It's not like Samsung which Dou's versions are different.
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tnx bro
what about roms? which one is better? motorola or google play version?
generally nexsus are more better.cuse better support .but i dont know motorola
which one have better support for updates and what difference did you seen in motorola rom and google ?
Currently most ROMs only support single SIM variants with very limited support to dual sim devices or none at all, but this can change later.
The moto g runs stock android. Its not a custom skinned rom like HTC and Samsung like to do. So really, the only difference is the GPE doesn't have the 3 Motorola apps (migrate, help, and the better moto camera app). Also, the GPE will get updates a couple months before.
My suggestion is get the normal moto g because of the camera app is better. Though, really in day to day use, you'll never notice if its the normal one or the play edition.
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The moto g runs stock android. Its not a custom skinned rom like HTC and Samsung like to do. So really, the only difference is the GPE doesn't have the 3 Motorola apps (migrate, help, and the better moto camera app). Also, the GPE will get updates a couple months before.
My suggestion is get the normal moto g because of the camera app is better. Though, really in day to day use, you'll never notice if its the normal one or the play edition.
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3 actually usefull apps and also Regular Moto G has an F2fs file system which was first used in moto x and promises faster random data reads ( faster read performances )
And about the updates....You can be sure that as soon as Moto G gpe would get any s/w update...it will be ported soon enough to regular one too
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tplnoor said:
i want to buy moto g but its hard for me to find which model is better?
single sim or dual?
google play version or not?
i mean which one have better xperiance?
normally we love google play versions . but here we have a motorola.i had not any motorola cellphons before
which one is better? motorola roms and suport? or the google ones?
which one have better roms and support and development?
single sim? dual sim?
tanx alot.and exm for my english.
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>Dual vs Single: Dual SIM
Why?
Because you will have space for one extra SIM if some day you need it, no harm in having two slots while if you have only one you might need to buy a new phone just for an extra SIM.
>Google Play vs Moto Version: Google Play
Why?
You will get unlocked Boot loader with warranty which you loose out in Moto Version in case you unlock your Boot loader.
Its like they unlock the boot loader for you with the warranty intact.
This will allow you to play with different ROMs without loosing out your warranty.:laugh:
For software support, Google ROM support will always be better than Motorola any day.
Further, in case of Hardware issues you shall be contacting Motorola in both cases so you aren't loosing out nothing
by buying a Google play edition.
Verdict: Dual SIM Google Play Edition :good:
Edit: as mentioned by @jaspreet997
Such phone is not available and also I have checked up the same.
So then opt for Simple SIM GPE untill and unless a dual SIM is very very important to you.
Are there any dual sim gpe being sold anywhere? I think not
tanx again
generally single sims have better development(i dont know about motorola).if its true on motorola.its more important than one sim more
in my country motorola havent eny office and the waranty isnt meaning here!
i think moto version will get updates as soon as the GPE got
so the motorola one sim looks better
thank you all
ashut0sh said:
>Dual vs Single: Dual SIM
Why?
Because you will have space for one extra SIM if some day you need it, no harm in having two slots while if you have only one you might need to buy a new phone just for an extra SIM.
>Google Play vs Moto Version: Google Play
Why?
You will get unlocked Boot loader with warranty which you loose out in Moto Version in case you unlock your Boot loader.
Its like they unlock the boot loader for you with the warranty intact.
This will allow you to play with different ROMs without loosing out your warranty.:laugh:
For software support, Google ROM support will always be better than Motorola any day.
Further, in case of Hardware issues you shall be contacting Motorola in both cases so you aren't loosing out nothing
by buying a Google play edition.
Verdict: Dual SIM Google Play Edition :good:
Edit: as mentioned by @jaspreet997
Such phone is not available and also I have checked up the same.
So then opt for Simple SIM GPE untill and unless a dual SIM is very very important to you.
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Reading this I again realized how different we people are. Because I would vote for a single sim regular phone instead.
- Why single sim? Because of the fact there are much more roms supporting only the single sim variant. Of course there will be dual sim roms, but when? I dont know? If in a month, then thats good. If in six months, thats bad ... many of us dont usually keep devices like this more than a year and being without flashing half of the time - nope, thanks!
- Why regular? I like what (little) Ive heard abou F2FS. And I dont care about warranty - I already have no warranty for my phone because I screwed up the purchase ... but thats another story
So, my advice - unless you need dual sim (or are going to need it soon), get regular single-sim.
Or not, it doesnt really matter lol ...
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Reading this I again realized how different we people are. Because I would vote for a single sim regular phone instead.
- Why single sim? Because of the fact there are much more roms supporting only the single sim variant. Of course there will be dual sim roms, but when? I dont know? If in a month, then thats good. If in six months, thats bad ... many of us dont usually keep devices like this more than a year and being without flashing half of the time - nope, thanks!
- Why regular? I like what (little) Ive heard abou F2FS. And I dont care about warranty - I already have no warranty for my phone because I screwed up the purchase ... but thats another story
So, my advice - unless you need dual sim (or are going to need it soon), get regular single-sim.
Or not, it doesnt really matter lol ...
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Good points.
Regarding f2fs, how hard can it be to format a partition? I'm actually wondering the answer to this, as I have the GPE and it seems CM11 for the Moto G just went official. But like you said, it looks like the GPE and the dual-sim owners will have to wait longer.
Hello,
Im thinking to get a black Sony XZ either this or next month, the dual version is available with lower price from ebay, while amazon sells with ~US 700 (black color is 630, but no version specified)
but its odd that the dual version 1st came available on ebay (with reasonable price) prior to the single SIM, so in case i miss any details from the spec, are they 2 different phones or they sharing the same firmware except the SIM trays?
is it true that on most cases, the regular version would receive more dev supports than the dual? thank you.
The dual sim version is 64GB while the single sim is 32GB. The USA single sim does not have finger print. All other versions have finger print. I currently have the dual sim version from ebay. It was shipped from Singapore.
I also went for the dual sim version. Firstly because I wanted a dual sim phone and secondly because of the 64gb. I think/hope the dev support will work out fine. At the moment that seems to be developing quite well
wouldn't the dual cause more bugs when developing roms?
another question, if a ROM developer owns a regular version , can he easily dev. another for dual?
I got the dual version for the 64gb storage.
2nd sim is a bonus.
Still waiting for someone to do a dual sim plus microsd hack
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wouldn't the dual cause more bugs when developing roms?
another question, if a ROM developer owns a regular version , can he easily dev. another for dual?
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Not really, if a developer produces a rom on a regular version, it can be easily patched to a dual sim version.
Simply, You'll just have to flash an extra patch after flashing a custom rom for the XZ Dual.
Also, when developers like @AndroPlus have the dual version, I don't think you need to worry about anything
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Not really, if a developer produces a rom on a regular version, it can be easily patched to a dual sim version.
Simply, You'll just have to flash an extra patch after flashing a custom rom for the XZ Dual.
Also, when developers like @AndroPlus have the dual version, I don't think you need to worry about anything
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thanks, it's just that sony devices start from Z5 (which i previously owned) dont seem to have much supports , by this time there are still very limited non-sony based custom ROM being made, if we talking about bug free that's gonna even nail down to only 2~3 roms from the same developer, which is the reason why i sold it last month. But anyway, i still like XZ's design and gonna wait few weeks more to see which version has cheaper price.
A quick question as a future XZ dual owner : how is the battery life? Does it make through a day of mid to heavy usage? Dual sim has any effect on that? Thanks in advance.
I wanted to order the international G970F/DS but they sent me the U1.
Apart from the lack of double sim support, it is now around 70€ less in the color i want.
Should I really get the G970F? I didn't really understand what are the real differences, i read here someone saying "I wish I would have bought the G970F", but at the same time it seems (I'm in France) than the U1 is working? And than updates are available here (the topic).
I really don't know what to do, usually i choose the best but now i'm a bit confused if i will really loose some functions if i keep the U1 or not.
Thanks if you can help
Apart from the different SOC(Exynos vs Qualcomm), you will not be able to unlock the bootloader on your model since it has the Qualcomm SOC, and only Exynos International models are unlockable. So you won't able able to install custom ROMs. But I hear the Qualcomm SOC is faster and more efficient so that's a plus.
Qualcomm soc is better in almost everything, speed, less Heat, better battery, better for gaming, also some people say that the camera processing it's better too
In what will custom rom help me?
I actually don't need much, but i'm affraid an USA version unlocked, won't work very well in france for some reasons.
I heard several things such as : - wifi calling not working - sometimes reception problems EVEN if bands are the same - sometimes google app store france not working - sometimes unpossibility to download some apps (like local apps) - samsung pay not working..
I'm not sure of anything and that's why I wanted to know here if you have more knowledge.
Maybe this model need manual updates all the time, and a lot of tweaking, in order to just work in france with a french simcard? (compare to the 970F were we can find local operators custom roms..)
Hello everyone,
I have a Mi A3. Lasted update was August on Android 11. Google Pixel is not officially supported in Romania and I was wandering if I will get one, will I be able to make 5G, VoWIFi and VoLTE to run in the future using root and custom rom?
I am at the point when I would ditch Android and buy a cheaper Iphone (SE or 11) just to get rid of the Android problems.
I really don't have time anymore to test different builds but, if there is a way to activate in the future I would seriously consider the 6a.
Before the A3 I had Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4 and so on. I don't want to buy a Samsung Android just to have the options mentioned above. Thank you!
natzy85 said:
I am at the point when I would ditch Android and buy a cheaper Iphone (SE or 11) just to get rid of the Android problems.
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Go ahead then, buy an iPhone
What "Android problems" are you referring to?
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Go ahead then, buy an iPhone
What "Android problems" are you referring to?
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all sorts of bugs, for example right now my Mi A 3 won't start the assistant via voice command.
A lot of times the phone will block while charging and I would miss the alarm in the morning.
Not to mention battery drain, I now use the phone with battery saver activated all the time to last a day, and the battery has 4030 mAh.
I know I will miss Android for the customization part, and if there is a chance I can enable 5G and voice over Wifi in the future, I am going to get the 6a.
But my main grip is with the OS, my wife has Iphone and I didn't see any bugs. Although I never had a Pixel before, I was hoping to be a very stable system, but what I'm reading worries me a lot.
natzy85 said:
all sorts of bugs, for example right now my Mi A 3 won't start the assistant via voice command.
A lot of times the phone will block while charging and I would miss the alarm in the morning.
I know I will miss Android for the customization part, and if there is a chance I can enable 5G and voice over Wifi in the future, I am going to get the 6a.
But my main grip is with the OS, my wife has Iphone and I didn't see any bugs. Although I never had a Pixel before, I was hoping to be a very stable system, but what I'm reading worries me a lot.
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Keep in mind, that you're comparing a super cheap budget Android phone (that even runs a stripped down version of AOSP) to an iPhone, that I'm sure cost at least three times the price of your A3.
The 6a is supposed to have one extra year of official software support than the iPhone 11, but you mentioned flashing custom ROMs, so I'm assuming it's not a huge dealbreaker for you. I'm not sure how much you could get an iPhone 11 or a 6a for. If you want a truly "bugless" experience, and it's not a lot more expensive, go for the iPhone, but don't upgrade to iOS 16, cuz it's as buggy as all previous Android versions combined
AFAIK, 5G, VoWIFi and VoLTE all depend on the carrier you're using. I live in Hungary, got the 6a from Germany. I see the options for all of these in the settings, but my carrier doesn't support any of them, so I can't actually test them, unfortunately.
Regarding 5G, VoWIFi and VoLTE and custom ROMs.. That's all up to developers. There's nothing preventing these phones from having any of these features when running a custom ROM.
The reviews and videos made on the 6a after release also had me worried a lot, I even started this thread on xda before purchasing the device, should you be interested in reading up more on about it.
I have been using the phone for about 3 weeks now, upgraded to A13 (no root or custom ROMs so far), and it's been working pretty much flawlessly. Fingerprint reader misses about as often as the rear-mounted reader did on the 4a. The display is super nice, no choppiness at all. Never had the system hung up so far. Photos/videos and image processing is excellent and incredibly fast.
The only thing I can complain about is the speakers; lacks bass (at least compared to the 4a).
tl;dr: I wouldn't be too worried about dealbreaking bugs. Google is going to support the 6a for 5 years, with feature drops every 3 months. If you can get it for less than its full price, it's a no brainer in my opinion.
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Keep in mind, that you're comparing a super cheap budget Android phone (that even runs a stripped down version of AOSP) to an iPhone, that I'm sure cost at least three times the price of your A3.
The 6a is supposed to have one extra year of official software support than the iPhone 11, but you mentioned flashing custom ROMs, so I'm assuming it's not a huge dealbreaker for you. I'm not sure how much you could get an iPhone 11 or a 6a for. If you want a truly "bugless" experience, and it's not a lot more expensive, go for the iPhone, but don't upgrade to iOS 16, cuz it's as buggy as all previous Android versions combined
AFAIK, 5G, VoWIFi and VoLTE all depend on the carrier you're using. I live in Hungary, got the 6a from Germany. I see the options for all of these in the settings, but my carrier doesn't support any of them, so I can't actually test them, unfortunately.
Regarding 5G, VoWIFi and VoLTE and custom ROMs.. That's all up to developers. There's nothing preventing these phones from having any of these features when running a custom ROM.
The reviews and videos made on the 6a after release also had me worried a lot, I even started this thread on xda before purchasing the device, should you be interested in reading up more on about it.
I have been using the phone for about 3 weeks now, upgraded to A13 (no root or custom ROMs so far), and it's been working pretty much flawlessly. Fingerprint reader misses about as often as the rear-mounted reader did on the 4a. The display is super nice, no choppiness at all. Never had the system hung up so far. Photos/videos and image processing is excellent and incredibly fast.
The only thing I can complain about is the speakers; lacks bass (at least compared to the 4a).
tl;dr: I wouldn't be too worried about dealbreaking bugs. Google is going to support the 6a for 5 years, with feature drops every 3 months. If you can get it for less than its full price, it's a no brainer in my opinion.
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Thank you very much for the reply. I am from Romania and from what I have read, also all the carrier here doesn't support Google.
I really think I will get the 6a. I will give Android one more try . Reading the thread you created.
About the price, at first Amazon.de was the cheapest, now we also have in Romania stores with more or less the same. price I still don't want to spend a lot of money on a mobile phone, but the prices on all of them this year has gone very high.
natzy85 said:
from what I have read, also all the carrier here don't support Google.
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It's not the carrier not supporting Google phones, it's the carrier not supporting the aforementioned features, no? It shouldn't matter (to the carrier) what phone you put your SIM card in. As long as the device has 5G capability, you should just be able to use it.
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now we also have in Romania stores with more or less the same.
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There are also some stores in Hungary since the release of the Pixel 6 that sell Google phones. If it wasn't for the trade-in program, I would have gotten my 6a from someplace in Hungary.
Do you have Alza in Romania? They sell the 6a, and also for a rather good price.
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It's not the carrier not supporting Google phones, it's the carrier not supporting the aforementioned features, no? It shouldn't matter (to the carrier) what phone you put your SIM card in. As long as the device has 5G capability, you should just be able to use it.
There are also some stores in Hungary since the release of the Pixel 6 that sell Google phones. If it wasn't for the trade-in program, I would have gotten my 6a from someplace in Hungary.
Do you have Alza in Romania? They sell the 6a, and also for a rather good price.
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unfortunately now, we don't have Alza.
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unfortunately now, we don't have Alza.
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That's not the end of the world, I guess. As long as you can buy it from a store that's semi reputable, you'll likely have no issues.
Make sure to go for a store that likely won't close down in a few years, because if you need to get your device fixed under warranty, you'll have to contact your Point Of Sale instead of Google.
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That's not the end of the world, I guess. As long as you can buy it from a store that's semi reputable, you'll likely have no issues.
Make sure to go for a store that likely won't close down in a few years, because if you need to get your device fixed under warranty, you'll have to contact your Point Of Sale instead of Google.
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thank you. I will. The problem is like with all the Nexus phones, the replacement parts are expensive compared to Apple. At least that is the case here, in Romania.
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It's not the carrier not supporting Google phones, it's the carrier not supporting the aforementioned features, no? It shouldn't matter (to the carrier) what phone you put your SIM card in. As long as the device has 5G capability, you should just be able to use it.
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but in this case 5g is supported by the phone and carrier but it doesn't work. I read somewhere that they have to enable some parameters for Pixel phones to work.
natzy85 said:
thank you. I will. The problem is like with all the Nexus phones, the replacement parts are expensive compared to Apple. At least that is the case here, in Romania.
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I'm not familiar with any replacement parts; luckily I've never had to replace anything on my Pixels so far.
What I used to do with my previous phones was to just order the parts on eBay (or similar sites), and bring them in to whatever local GSM store.
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but in this case 5g is supported by the phone and carrier but it doesn't work. I read somewhere that they have to enable some parameters for Pixel phones to work.
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Again, I'm not sure how this works, but I doubt that's the case. Be sure to check with your provider.
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Again, I'm not sure how this works, but I doubt that's the case. Be sure to check with your provider.
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Pixel 6 VoLTE
Eu am avut doar telefoane de la Google seria Pixel pentru că sunt foarte reușite. Telefoanele sunt capabile de VoLTE dar pentru asta trebuie să fie înregistrat și telefonul la providerul respectiv. De atâtia ani de când există aceste telefoane se pare că Orange nu s-a ocupat de asta și...
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Orange needs to get certificates from Google, and once it gets certified, it will be able to modify that neighborhood settings that will eventually modify that build.prop file that allows access to 5G, VoLTE and VoWIFI. The fact that we do not have these services is Orange Romania's fault. For the fact that Google has implemented this stupid process that puts users at the mercy of operators, Google is to blame. In the phone settings there is a Carrier settings section. The last update was on 30.09.2021, about 2 months before the launch of the Pixel 6 series.
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Orange needs to get certificates from Google
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TIL. That's the dumbest thing I've heard in a while
What's their reasoning behind this lmao? Or is it how it works with all devices, it's just that supported phones get added to the list way before they're released to the public?
From what I know this is with all carriers in Romania, you cannot have 5G with Pixel even with Vodafone or any carrier.
Activate 5G on non-5G Country
Hey, this tuto is working for several user to activate 5G on unsupported 5G country by Google. You need : Rooted phone, 5G Plan, 5G Coverage. STEP 1 : Install the module on magisk to activate VOLTE and reboot. STEP 2 : Install Network Signal...
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Activate 5G on non-5G Country
Hey, this tuto is working for several user to activate 5G on unsupported 5G country by Google. You need : Rooted phone, 5G Plan, 5G Coverage. STEP 1 : Install the module on magisk to activate VOLTE and reboot. STEP 2 : Install Network Signal...
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so I finally ordered 6a, I'm now waiting. Does this work also with the 6a?
natzy85 said:
so I finally ordered 6a, I'm now waiting. Does this work also with the 6a?
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Yes!