Hello hello!
Thought I'd share my experience purchasing and using my Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra SM-S908N, the South Korean model, in Canada!
I'll be providing as much pertinent and accurate information as I can, but please note while its been great for me your experience may differ. The SM-S908N & SM-S908E both share the same bands and will work the same in Canada. This article will only refer to my device the SM-S908N.
Feel free to ask questions! I'll try my best to remember to reply, but don't ask me about CSC or 5G.
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: The Nonomancer Report
(22-11-03)
- The article isn't dead! Waiting on OneUI 5.0 to make it easier to manage and finish this work. For readers, don't hesitate to contact me if you have any questions. Please note, I can't help with Android/Samsung Pay or CSC.
(22-07-20)
- Added warning about ZOOAUX. Got a second one that is garbage and returned it. There's so many garbage adapters it's unreal! Ordering more adapters soon will add to the review section. Should have time to update rest of article soon.
(22-07-14)
- User Starman2021 has written an article about flashing CSC and getting 5G for Canadian providers. I will attempt it soon, for science, but won't be able to test 5G unless I can find a SIM to borrow. Please report your experience on his article, I will update this article to reflect it.
- I've cancelled the MediaFire subscription / Magisk ROM project until I make a proper decision about how I will get involved in the S22 community. The uploaded files will remain but will expire. I will find a different host soon and re-upload.
- I'm still dealing with stock ROM config and there's a lot left to do. I'll update this article soon and add more technical data and my debloat script.
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PLEASE NOTE - This is a reference only.
- Do not limit yourself to this article for information.
- I will not provide any help if you encounter any issues by executing on what you read here.
- I have not tested my ROMs. If your model or region differs, USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!
- The ROMs provided will not be kept up to date routinely.
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TLDR- Works perfect on Telus/Public Mobile network. It setup provider and mobile data info automatically.
- Rooting the device takes a few minutes with Magisk.
- You may have issues with 5G. It might work, but I'll need testimonies and anecdotal data! Get involved.
- Some 4G/LTE & a 5G band are missing which could affect your experience. Review your provider bands!
- At the time of purchase, the SM-S908N was 2-300$ cheaper than the SM-S908E listings.
Special thanks to Williamtung, 52yt & Hamid Chikh, for guiding me with your words of wisdom! I wouldn't have and love my S22 the way I do without your work. And of course, the XDA community! <3
Index
INFO
A lot of information is missing, I will gradually update over time.
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Device Info (All the specs.)
Device Bands and Service Compatibility (Compatibility details for Canadian providers.)
Order Details (The purchase details everyone wants to know.)
Accessories (Some reviews and warnings.)
Device Setup Tips (I'm here in my garage!)
Downloads (My Magisk patched ROM & tools you don't want to miss)
References (Read these and bookmark them!)
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Device Info Specs References: Samsung Korea, Samsung Canada
Device: Samsung S22 Ultra
Model: SM-S908N
Color: Phantom Black
Storage: 512GB
Service Provider: SAOMC_SM-S908N_OKR_KOO_12_0017
Region: KOO (KOO/KOO/KOO/KOO)
Baseband Version: S908NKSU1AVEF
Build: SP1A.210812.016.S908NKSU1AVF1
Kernel: 5.10.81-android12-9-24339823-abS908NKSU1AVF1
CSC: Might provide # later. (Don't ask me about this. I don't know. Never played with CSC.)
2G GSM: GSM850, GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900
3G UMTS: B1(2100), B2(1900), B4(AWS), B5(850), B8(900)
4G FDD LTE: B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B13(700), B17(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B25(1900), B26(850), B28(700), B66(AWS-3)
Bootloader: Unlocked
ROOT: Magisk
ROM: Stock Samsung OneUI 4.1 (Android 12)
Device Bands and Service Compatibility
WARNING
- The SM-S908N is missing the 5G band B71 and 4G LTE bands B14, B29 & B30 of the Canadian Model which might be used by your service provider. This could negatively impact your experience!
- I do not have 5G with my provider so I can't and will not be testing it.
- 5G most likely doesn't work. I will consider it so until someone confirms otherwise.
Please take the time to review the bands used by your provider.
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It works like a charm! During setup, the phone downloads the provider details. My provider name showed up and mobile data worked instantly.
Perfect operation on the Telus / Public Mobile network!
Order Details
INFO
Cleared statement amounts are the same as the authorized amounts for me.
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Purchased From: ebay with seller with_us. The 1099.99$ USD listing that includes shipping.
- 1000x thanks to XDA user 52yt for recommending this seller!
Payment Method: Paypal Only.
- Other payment methods are refused by seller.
- Only ships once payment clears.
Cost: 1,492.54 CAD
- Includes around 54$ extra from Paypal fees vs using credit card directly, but it might be more I forgot.
- Does not include duties and taxes.
Import Duties & Taxes: 224.47$ CAD
Total Cost with Accessories: Cry a lot
Shipped From: South Korea
Shipping Time: Ordered June 20th. Received June 27th.
Accessories
INFO
I spent days researching the accessories to avoid getting lemons and still got caught. In case you might also need some accessories, here's what I got!
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Protective Case
Spigen Optik Armor (with camera cover) Acceptable!
- Perfectly content aside from it being a cheap case.
- Looks & feels amazing to hold. Wobbly when handling case without phone.
- Lays crooked because of camera cover.
- Camera cover / sliding mechanism's build quality is very poor. Hard to slide.
- Had to drill hole in camera cover to allow flashlight through.
- No issues with wireless charging. Camera cover slightly in the way of the phone's charger coil.
- Makes the stylus slightly harder to pull out, but not a problem with normal length nails.
Screen Protectors
Liquid UV Tempered Glass: Not tested yet. Ordered the Mowei [3+2 Pack] with stellar reviews.
- Will install soon.
TPU: Not tested yet. Ordered the EGV with stellar reviews.
- Will not install. Only there as backup in case I royally mess up the tempered glass install.
USB-C Audio Adapters
WARNING
- The S22 Ultra only supports adapters with Hi-Fi DAC chips and they don't all perform the same. Your experience may differ depending on your hardware.
- The adapters listed below were not thoroughly tested and I can't speak for their durability over time.
- Splitter adapters cause annoying, but short disconnects. For example, if you are listening to music and then plug the power, it will disconnect and reconnect the cable. Thanks Samsung!
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CableCreation 2-in-1 (T-shaped model) **Refunded**
- Audible white noise (hissing) during playback, with a click/pop at the end of each sound.
Stouchi USB-C to 3.5mm (2 pack) **Refunded**
- LOUD audible white noise (hissing) during playback, with a LOUD click/pop at the end of each sound.
ZOOAUX 2-in-1 (B094Z6149B) Acceptable! *WARNING*
- Clear sound with no artifacts. Got hissing once with no clicks, reconnecting fixed it.
- WARNING: I ordered a 2nd one and the new one had loud noise and clicks/pops.
USB-C Headphones
Skullcandy Sport (S2SXY-N740) Acceptable!
- No audible artifacts. Sounds like any good 20$ headphones.
- Bad shape and size of earbuds/gels masks all the bass, give a bad noise cancellation and bad fit.
- Perfect for duolingo and falling asleep to Futurama!
Other Adapters
UGREEN MicroSD to USB-C Acceptable!
- Must be plugged in directly.
- Doesn't work when used on other adapters or docks/hubs (At least from my experience).
Device Setup TipsThe first screen(s) will be in Korean!
If there's no SIM in the phone, you'll be greeted with the first setup page. The drop down arrow you see will let you switch to your language of choice. View example here.
If a SIM is inserted, there will be a warning about mobile data charges before the first setup page. See translated pic here.
DownloadsMy Magisk Patched ROMs (No other modifications)
Latest: Firmware v2022-06-04
Drivers & Tools
Android platform-tools (adb)
Samsung's Android USB Driver
Bitfrost (Downloader for Firmware/Stock ROMS)
Apps
Magisk
ReferencesGuides
How-To-Root
Device Optimizations
Debloat Ref 1 & Ref 2 (Use caution with these, they can cause critical problems like bootloops! My own shell script will be made available soon.)
reserved.
Article Changelog
0.3.1 Add details about SM-S908E
0.3.0 Move changelog section. Add Index & TLDR sections.
0.2.0 MediaFire repo. Initial release of magisk patched rom v22-06-04. Change article text and presentation.
0.1.0 Initial Release.
If anyone is interested and is rooted, I have added the 908W csc successfully to my device the 908E to get 5g and WiFi calling etc working. PM me.
Nice to hear!
Have you posted about it somewhere? If so, I'll put a link to it in the article. Otherwise, feel free to update us here or msg me and i'll document it.
Curious to hear the details!
I created a post in case anyone would like to try it out. I've done it multiple times on different firmwares and it has worked every time.
S908W CSC FOR S908E
Hi everyone. This is for anyone with a S908e device that lives in Canada and would like to have proper signal, 5g, rcs in Samsung messages among other things. This should work for other regions as well such as the US. If you want to PM me your...
forum.xda-developers.com
Starman2021 said:
I created a post in case anyone would like to try it out. I've done it multiple times on different firmwares and it has worked every time.
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Awesome. Thank you for documenting it!
I'll link to it in my article and I'll try to setup my CSC in the following weeks.
If possible and not too time consuming, I'll try to research and document/backup the different CSC files from our providers in case there are nuances between them. I'm not making any promises tho, this effort could turn out to be a waste of time.
Guys I have just received a Korean 512GB S908N, the phone seems to have a Snapdragon CPU. And not an Exynos as some threads suggest..
S908N TWRP EXYNOS ???
Please help me understand, searching has not led to any answers so far about what the CPU really is. The internet seems to have mixed feelings. I want to install a custom rom but to do so I need to install TWRP 1st.
What is happening?
babyboy3265 said:
Guys I have just received a Korean 512GB S908N, the phone seems to have a Snapdragon CPU. And not an Exynos as some threads suggest..
S908N TWRP EXYNOS ???
Please help me understand, searching has not led to any answers so far about what the CPU really is. The internet seems to have mixed feelings. I want to install a custom rom but to do so I need to install TWRP 1st.
What is happening?
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You'll have to confirm with the dev from the TWRP EXYNOS thread. I haven't read it, it may already answer this question.
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You can use the CPU-Z app from the Play Store to get the Device -> Board id and search that on google.
I can't speak for all phone models, but here is the gist.
S908N board is named taro which is SD8G1:
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 5G SM8450 (Waipio) | Processor Specs | PhoneDB
2021, Multi-core Application Processor with Modem, 64 bit, octa-core, LPDDR4x SDRAM, LPDDR5 SDRAM, 51.2 Gbyte/s, 6144 Kbyte L3, 4 nm, Qualcomm Adreno 730 GPU, 818 MHz GPU, CSD, GPRS, GPRS C12, GPRS MSC12, GPRS MSC32, GPRS MSC33, EDGE, EDGE MSC10, EDGE MSC12, EDGE MSC32, EDGE MSC33, UMTS...
phonedb.net
S908B board is named S5e9925 which is Exynos:
Samsung Exynos 2200 5G S5E9925 | Processor Specs | PhoneDB
2022, Multi-core Application Processor with Modem, 64 bit, octa-core, LPDDR5 SDRAM, 51.2 Gbyte/s, 4 nm, Samsung Xclipse 920 GPU, CSD, GPRS, GPRS C12, EDGE, EDGE MSC12, EDGE MSC32, UMTS, TD-SCDMA, HSDPA, HSDPA 1.8, HSDPA 3.6, HSDPA 7.2, HSDPA 10.2, HSDPA 14.4, HSPA+ 21.1, HSPA+ 28.8, DC-HSDPA...
phonedb.net
nonomancer said:
You'll have to confirm with the dev from the TWRP EXYNOS thread. I haven't read it, it may already answer this question.
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You can use the CPU-Z app from the Play Store to get the Device -> Board id and search that on google.
I can't speak for all phone models, but here is the gist.
S908N board is named taro which is SD8G1:
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 5G SM8450 (Waipio) | Processor Specs | PhoneDB
2021, Multi-core Application Processor with Modem, 64 bit, octa-core, LPDDR4x SDRAM, LPDDR5 SDRAM, 51.2 Gbyte/s, 6144 Kbyte L3, 4 nm, Qualcomm Adreno 730 GPU, 818 MHz GPU, CSD, GPRS, GPRS C12, GPRS MSC12, GPRS MSC32, GPRS MSC33, EDGE, EDGE MSC10, EDGE MSC12, EDGE MSC32, EDGE MSC33, UMTS...
phonedb.net
S908B board is named S5e9925 which is Exynos:
Samsung Exynos 2200 5G S5E9925 | Processor Specs | PhoneDB
2022, Multi-core Application Processor with Modem, 64 bit, octa-core, LPDDR5 SDRAM, 51.2 Gbyte/s, 4 nm, Samsung Xclipse 920 GPU, CSD, GPRS, GPRS C12, EDGE, EDGE MSC12, EDGE MSC32, UMTS, TD-SCDMA, HSDPA, HSDPA 1.8, HSDPA 3.6, HSDPA 7.2, HSDPA 10.2, HSDPA 14.4, HSPA+ 21.1, HSPA+ 28.8, DC-HSDPA...
phonedb.net
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I have already messaged there as well and waiting to hear back... It is really weird...
FYI for anyone buying S908N, there is no eSIM for the korean version. Very crappy to realize this after the purchase!
I can't get 5g to work on the S908E on Rogers, Telus or Bell. Anyone figure out how to get 5g?
Brava27 said:
I can't get 5g to work on the S908E on Rogers, Telus or Bell. Anyone figure out how to get 5g?
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See my post here.
S908W CSC FOR S908E
Hi everyone. This is for anyone with a S908e device that lives in Canada and would like to have proper signal, 5g, rcs in Samsung messages among other things. This should work for other regions as well such as the US. If you want to PM me your...
forum.xda-developers.com
Starman2021 said:
See my post here.
S908W CSC FOR S908E
Hi everyone. This is for anyone with a S908e device that lives in Canada and would like to have proper signal, 5g, rcs in Samsung messages among other things. This should work for other regions as well such as the US. If you want to PM me your...
forum.xda-developers.com
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I missed this. Thanks so much.
Starman2021 said:
See my post here.
S908W CSC FOR S908E
Hi everyone. This is for anyone with a S908e device that lives in Canada and would like to have proper signal, 5g, rcs in Samsung messages among other things. This should work for other regions as well such as the US. If you want to PM me your...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Odd, I get the 5g icon but it's still on LTE. Fake 5G signal lol.
Related
Hi all,
Anyone have a list of countries / regions / variants for the S6?
Sm-g9200, sm-g9208, sm-g9208/ss, sm-g9209, sm-g920a, sm-g920f, sm-g920fd, sm-g920i, sm-g920p, sm-g920s, sm-g920t, sm-g920v, sm-g920x, sm-g920w8
Jesus, Note 4 fiasco all over again. The only thing I actually like about iPhone, not one for every letter in the alphabet.
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Jesus, Note 4 fiasco all over again. The only thing I actually like about iPhone, not one for every letter in the alphabet.
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LOL I agree with you there... They should change their model naming convention too as with the Note 4 you need to know the CPU from the variant list its not in the model name/number.
Also same about the iPhone 6 ... look at all the LTE bands it supports! Most Samsung phones only include the bands for the region in which the variant is destined.
Ditto on the multiple variants fiasco. I believe the Iphone 6 has only a handfull of models those with CDMA and FD/TD LTE.
my 2 cents
@$%! Since I could not discern via either GSMArena or Phonescoop, I was hoping I'd find out here whether the AT&T phones would be drastically different from the T-Mo ones. I dream of the day when phones are 100% portable from one GSM carrier to the next.
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@$%! Since I could not discern via either GSMArena or Phonescoop, I was hoping I'd find out here whether the AT&T phones would be drastically different from the T-Mo ones. I dream of the day when phones are 100% portable from one GSM carrier to the next.
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When i get a chance I will look at the f_c_c documents and it tells you which bands are tested. There is a difference, but I'll have to double check to see exactly.
I am especially curious to know more about the S6 Active as I have a mind to buy it (from AT&T, as I understand it) and then put it on my T-Mobile account. The other details I'd like to see are the 700 MHz bands; I have my fingers crossed that T-Mobile goes after populating their 700Mhz band quickly as I believe that'll rectify some coverage/saturation issues they experience.
bwb8771 said:
@$%! Since I could not discern via either GSMArena or Phonescoop, I was hoping I'd find out here whether the AT&T phones would be drastically different from the T-Mo ones. I dream of the day when phones are 100% portable from one GSM carrier to the next.
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T-Mobile variant:
Band 2, 4, 5, 12, 17
ATT variant:
Band 2, 4, 5, 12, 17, 30
xdadevnube said:
T-Mobile variant:
Band 2, 4, 5, 12, 17
ATT variant:
Band 2, 4, 5, 12, 17, 30
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ATT variant also supports Band 29.
NIce! Thanks for finding that!
"As reported by Fierce Wireless, until 2013, AT&T had maintained that it would not support Band 17 alongside Band 12 because it “would be too expensive and would cause interference.” But since then, the company has changed its stance.
“Specifically, the company said it will develop, implement and deploy throughout its network multi-frequency band indicator (MFBI) capabilities that will let its network operate simultaneously in both Band 12 and Band 17 and support devices in both band classes.”
What this means for T-Mobile customers is that, potentially, they can roam on AT&T’s 700MHz network in areas where the carrier doesn’t have its own LTE. And – after the move to alter terms by the FCC – AT&T won’t be able to charge whatever it likes for the privilege. It also means that a number of AT&T’s devices on sale will – if unlocked – be compatible with T-Mobile’s spectrum."
http://www.tmonews.com/2015/03/t-mo...nd-17-and-band-12-lte-network-interoperating/
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ATT variant also supports Band 29.
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Strange, there is no mention that i can find in the FCC docs of Band 29.
I haven't confirmed cases in which the FCC doesnt list or test certain radio functionality of a device, but I suppose it is possible.
Do you have a source?
xdadevnube said:
Strange, there is no mention that i can find in the FCC docs of Band 29.
I haven't confirmed cases in which the FCC doesnt list or test certain radio functionality of a device, but I suppose it is possible.
Do you have a source?
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http://m.att.com/shopmobile/cellphones/samsung/galaxy-s6.html
All the supported bands are listed.
iEatRappers said:
http://m.att.com/shopmobile/cellphones/samsung/galaxy-s6.html
All the supported bands are listed.
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That would show that the FCC isn't testing those bands. In this case, the FCC Docs are not fully indicative of the full LTE band support of a device.
Interesting, as this is something I suspected but a bit unsure about.
Found an article on Talk Android published pre-release of the S6. Unfortunately I can't post the link as I have <10 posts on XDA.
They list the variants for the S6 as shown below:
SM-G9200 – China
SM-G9208 – China
SM-G9209 – China
SM-G920A – AT&T
SM-G920D – NTT DOCOMO
SM-G920F – A lot of countries/regions
SM-G920I – A lot of countries/regions
SM-G920K – KT
SM-G920L – LG Telecom
SM-G920M – Brazil
SM-G920P – Sprint
SM-G920R – US Cellular
SM-G920S – SK Telecom
SM-G920T – T-Mobile US
SM-G920V – Verizon
SM-G920W – Canada etc
SM-G920X – Demo Only, not for public
SM-G9250 – China
SM-G925A – AT&T
SM-G925D – NTT DOCOMO
SM-G925F – A lot of countries/regions
SM-G925I – A lot of countries/regions
SM-G925J – KDDI
SM-G925K – KT
SM-G925L – LG Telecom
SM-G925P – Sprint
SM-G925R – US Cellular
SM-G925S – SK Telecom
SM-G925T – T-Mobile US
SM-G925V – Verizon
SM-G925W – Canada etc
SM-G925X – Demo Only, not for public
I know it's a little old but may still be relevant.
Jock
so is it just me or is the international black version different looking than the US black version.
To me it looks like the international black version has a black metal bezel and the US is silver metal.
The SM-G9200 is also Dual-Sim. I have read that it's CAT4 LTE rather than CAT6. I would have thought all the S6 variants would be CAT6. Is it possible that it's CAT4?
now is the hardware the same for each version? I am thinking of getting a S6 but one thing I like about the HTC One is that HTC only makes 1 phone which is the same around the world. I feel this makes things easier for Devs.
Can anyone Confirm the NETWORK Frequencies on :
SM-G920W8/SM-G925W8 ? (On samsung ca web-site non info shown about it) LINK
SM-G920S
SM-G920K – KT
SM-G920L – LG Telecom
SM-G920M – Brazil
Can anyone found samsung web-site for those Models?
There is a chance that G20 and G25 from the same area Model could not supoort the same Frequencies?
I don't trsut other web-site I found there errors before.
Like in here:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=7848&c=samsung_sm-g920w8_galaxy_s6_lte-a_samsung_zero_f
http://www.samsunggalaxyspecs.com/samsung-sm-g920w8-galaxy-s6-lte-a-specs/
In 920V/925V there is a chance that they miss on the list the B7=2600 on LTE
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-G920VZDAVZW-specs
LTE Band 13/4/2 (700/1700/1900 MHz) out of box;
LTE Band 3/5/7 capable (1800/850/700 MHz); (7 are 2600 or not?)
CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz);
Global - EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900 MHz), HSPA/UMTS(850/900/1900/2100 MHz)
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Greed!
Its greed I tell you both in saving antenna and making people can not swap world wide!! Their domination days are number.
@Class said:
LOL I agree with you there... They should change their model naming convention too as with the Note 4 you need to know the CPU from the variant list its not in the model name/number.
Also same about the iPhone 6 ... look at all the LTE bands it supports! Most Samsung phones only include the bands for the region in which the variant is destined.
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I'm not able to find "official" info beyond LTE Cat 12/7 about LTE Carrier Aggregation / Bands Support of RN6P.
Especially interested in the Central European situation, as far as I found 3CA (B3+B20+B7+B1) and 2CA (B3+B20/B7, B1+B20) are important to reach high speeds (over 100 Mbps). Other Bands of interest: B32.
Why no Shops and Smartphone tests listen this data which can decide if double or triple speed is possible?
EDIT: According to gadgetsnow.com there is support only for: 1, 3, 5, 40, 41 - so B20 and B7 as well as B32 is missing.
Still found no info on CA (2CA or 3CA); it seems unsupported?
ChriMo said:
I'm not able to find "official" info beyond LTE Cat 12/7 about LTE Carrier Aggregation / Bands Support of RN6P.
Especially interested in the Central European situation, as far as I found 3CA (B3+B20+B7+B1) and 2CA (B3+B20/B7, B1+B20) are important to reach high speeds (over 100 Mbps). Other Bands of interest: B32.
Why no Shops and Smartphone tests listen this data which can decide if double or triple speed is possible?
EDIT: According to gadgetsnow.com there is support only for: 1, 3, 5, 40, 41 - so B20 and B7 as well as B32 is missing.
Still found no info on CA (2CA or 3CA); it seems unsupported?
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I'm also looking for this CA information but no specs from Xiaomi side.
Note: The answer is 3CA since RN6 has Snapdragon 636 (with X12 modem build in),
fbirraque said:
The answer is 3CA since RN6 has Snapdragon 636 (with X12 modem build in),
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Very interesting info and link. So 3CA Downlink and 2CA Uplink. The X12 LTE Modem page also lists a lot more interesting specs like:
LTE Category 13 (uplink) 12 (downlink), Download 600 Mbps Upload 150 Mbps
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Unclear to me is if any of this hardware options are usable on devices having the modem installed - or in other words how much device/vendor drivers impact usage of the full hardware potential. Also wondering if Snapdragon 821/820/66x devices so in theory have the same LTE performance?
Xiaomi may not implement every feature as Qualcomm could offer. There is way to confirm CA combinations support from modem log. I have instruction here how to get log out: https://mt-tech.fi/en/how-to-get-4g-supported-ca-combinations-from-your-android-phone/ (scroll down Xiaomi section). Then please send your phone log here https://cacombos.com/contribute so then you can see your device in cacombos.com page with supported bands and combos.
olkitu said:
Xiaomi may not implement every feature as Qualcomm could offer. There is way to confirm CA combinations support from modem log. I have instruction here how to get log out: https://mt-tech.fi/en/how-to-get-4g-supported-ca-combinations-from-your-android-phone/ (scroll down Xiaomi section). Then please send your phone log here https://cacombos.com/contribute so then you can see your device in cacombos.com page with supported bands and combos.
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Redmi Note 6 Pro support 2CA Contiguous intra-band Carrier Aggregation combinations: https://cacombos.com/device?model=M1806E7TG . LTE Category is CAT13 DL and CAT13 UL. Max speed DL theory up to 400 Mbit/s and upload max 150 Mbit/s.
Hi all
Can someone kindly check which bands are supported? There seems to be no official information from Samsung which is a bit odd. Makes me think the Exynos version supports a fair few less bands vs the Snapdragon version. I also asked Samsung support and noticed in their reply following bands are missing:
B18, B19, B25, B26, B32, B38 and B66
I haven't fact-checked it but Techwalls has a rundown: https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-s21-plus-5g...
@C0derbear it does look more plausible vs. what Samsung support says (sigh they can be so clueless but I keep thinking it must be a lousy job and don't blame them). Do you own a S21+? We can probably cross check using a dial code or a tool (no root required AFAIK)
I do have one, I have a US unlocked (direct from samsung) with a Verizon SIM card at this time.
Oh I see. I need someone with an Exynos. They can try this:
and post some screenshots.
I've been using the exynos s21 ultra on t-mobile and it supports all the lte bands plus one 5g band. You don't get a 5g symbol on the status bar, instead you get a 4g+ symbol. I've tested the speeds between this phone and the t-mobile plus 9 pro and they're exactly the same. The only difference is that calls take up to 5 seconds to connect compared to the one plus which is instant. I hope this information helps anyone on the fence about purchasing an exynos variant.
Hey guys
Long time since I've posted on here!
I've just upgraded from my trusty 8GB/512GB Note9 N960F/DS to a 12GB/512GB S22 Ultra S9080/DS (SD) on TGY (from techinthebasket).
The phone is currently on TGY CSC but I'm wondering if anyone knows whether BRI would be better for use in the UK, specifically on O2UK?
I can see 5G is enabled, and there is 5G in my area (my wife can get it on her iPhone 12 Pro on Sky, which is hosted by O2) but I can't seem to pick up 5G on my S22. I know the 9080 only has the N78 band for O2 so maybe that's the issue - if there's only the lower band 5G in my area...
Just wondering if anyone has any experience regarding TGY vs BRI in the UK?
Thanks
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Hey guys
Long time since I've posted on here!
I've just upgraded from my trusty 8GB/512GB Note9 N960F/DS to a 12GB/512GB S22 Ultra S9080/DS (SD) on TGY (from techinthebasket).
The phone is currently on TGY CSC but I'm wondering if anyone knows whether BRI would be better for use in the UK, specifically on O2UK?
I can see 5G is enabled, and there is 5G in my area (my wife can get it on her iPhone 12 Pro on Sky, which is hosted by O2) but I can't seem to pick up 5G on my S22. I know the 9080 only has the N78 band for O2 so maybe that's the issue - if there's only the lower band 5G in my area...
Just wondering if anyone has any experience regarding TGY vs BRI in the UK?
Thanks
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I live in Sweden and the net configuration in Sweden and the UK are all almost the same. The TGY or BRI are the same phone just different SW customization, but you will not notice any difference at all.
The 4G support is very good but not 5G, the 5G band support is limited.
If you want to buy a better model, look for "SM-S908E" model. You can find it from Etoren https://eu.etoren.com/products/sams...ual-sim-sm-s908e-256gb-phantom-white-12gb-ram
I don't recommend BRI (Taiwan) or TGY (Hong Kong) if you want to take advantage of 5G. Also the SM-S908E has e-Sim in addition.
nightoooo said:
I live in Sweden and the net configuration in Sweden and the UK are all almost the same. The TGY or BRI are the same phone just different SW customization, but you will not notice any difference at all.
The 4G support is very good but not 5G, the 5G band support is limited.
If you want to buy a better model, look for "SM-S908E" model. You can find it from Etoren https://eu.etoren.com/products/sams...ual-sim-sm-s908e-256gb-phantom-white-12gb-ram
I don't recommend BRI (Taiwan) or TGY (Hong Kong) if you want to take advantage of 5G. Also the SM-S908E has e-Sim in addition.
p.dixon0 said:
Hey guys
Long time since I've posted on here!
I've just upgraded from my trusty 8GB/512GB Note9 N960F/DS to a 12GB/512GB S22 Ultra S9080/DS (SD) on TGY (from techinthebasket).
The phone is currently on TGY CSC but I'm wondering if anyone knows whether BRI would be better for use in the UK, specifically on O2UK?
I can see 5G is enabled, and there is 5G in my area (my wife can get it on her iPhone 12 Pro on Sky, which is hosted by O2) but I can't seem to pick up 5G on my S22. I know the 9080 only has the N78 band for O2 so maybe that's the issue - if there's only the lower band 5G in my area...
Just wondering if anyone has any experience regarding TGY vs BRI in the UK?
Thanks
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Unfortunately the only option for 5G in the UK is with a Exynos variant. Even though your device reflects 5G is enabled and it has the corresponding 5G Band, it's not going to connect. Snapdragon is a much better choice even though you'll sacrifice 5G and Carrier Aggregation and of the 3 SM-9080 variants Hong Kong TGY is your best option.
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Thanks for your replies guys, I really appreciate it!
Can I ask, Carrier Aggregation, that's 4G+ isn't it? If so, it's getting 4G+ OK - did a few speed tests earlier and was getting 117Mbs download speeds... Does that should about right for CA? (It's faster than I saw with the Note9 on 4G+ on the same network anyway)
p.dixon0 said:
Thanks for your replies guys, I really appreciate it!
Can I ask, Carrier Aggregation, that's 4G+ isn't it? If so, it's getting 4G+ OK - did a few speed tests earlier and was getting 117Mbs download speeds... Does that should about right for CA? (It's faster than I saw with the Note9 on 4G+ on the same network anyway)
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No, Carrier Aggregation is different than 4G+ but if you're getting 117 MBs that's enough for most situations, right? Carrier aggregation is used in LTE-Advanced in order to increase the bandwidth, and thereby increase the bitrate. I can't see rolling the dice on a Exynos variant just to have 5G. And it is a roll of the dice. Samsung's Quality Control is asleep at the wheel.
Something many don't realize, wafer yeild in Samsung's Foundries for the Exynos SoC was a dreadful 30% but it's Snapdragon yeild wasn't much better at 35%. If I were to consider an S22 Ultra it would be after Qualcomm moved it's production to TSMC's Taiwan Foundry in June or July. That will mark Qualcomm's next gen chipset. But even then problems could still nag the device since the marriage between Android 12 and OneUI 4.1 has to date been a messy affair.
I imported a Samsung Galaxy Note²⁰ Ultra from Hong Kong to use on the UK Network.
It was a TGY variant and worked flawlessly.
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I imported a Samsung Galaxy Note²⁰ Ultra from Hong Kong to use on the UK Network.
It was a TGY variant and worked flawlessly.
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I think I read a post from you on the same subject on the Samsung forums before I picked up this phone! That's actually the reason I thought I'd go ahead and get a TGY one!
Hi.
Yes I've discussed this on the Samsung Eu forums too.
Just an update in case anyone is interested - I did a speed test (OOKLA Speedtest) comparison via the browser on both my S9080 TGY (12GB/512GB) showing 4G+ on O2UK and my wife's iPhone 12 Pro showing 5G on Sky (runs on the O2UK network) from the same location last night.
My phone got a maximum of 145.7mbs download on 4G+, her iPhone hit a maximum of 53mbs on 5G in the same location. Of course, they could have been connected to different cell towers etc.
The Hong Kong TGY variant is the closest you'll find to a pure android experience on a Samsung device. Less bloatware, best overall network connectivity with one exception. Samsung should modify it's 5G capabilities so it will work on as many networks as possible. Another improvement would allow system apps to be removed or at least disabled, which will likely never happen. Those two modifications would be a huge step forward.
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The Hong Kong TGY variant is the closest you'll find to a pure android experience on a Samsung device. Less bloatware, best overall network connectivity with one exception. Samsung should modify it's 5G capabilities so it will work on as many networks as possible. Another improvement would allow system apps to be removed or at least disabled, which will likely never happen. Those two modifications would be a huge step forward.
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Samsung do this on purpose to cripple devices and stop people from different regions buying the same product. Similarly with their warranties, its only valid and recognized for the country that the device was intended for. A pure anti consumer move by Samsung. Opposite of the evil Apple, whereby their iPhones don't have bands or CA crippled nor do they deny warranty for customers of other regions.
Just a quick update on this, I've just 'upgraded' my O2UK SIM only tariff to the same 150GB deal but told them my device is 5G enabled this time (I was on a Note9 previously). Anyway, tariff change is completed and I now have 5G (Can also see that HD Voice over 4G is active too)
I found the answer to this, so for others, the 5G bands are not the same on the international variant:
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Hi All -
I've had a rooted phone for many years (currently a Pixel 5). I know US Samsung phones are not rootable.
Q1 - I'm looking for the international version of the Flip 4 but can't find it on AMZ, EBay, or anywhere else; is it not launched yet?
Q2- When it is, how can I check the available bands for compatibility with 5G T-Mobile (n41, n71, n260, n261)?
I know the US version has those bands but I'm not sure I want to go back to a locked ecosystem.
Vzw on my F926b experience.
Sim has to be in slot 2. Rooted to gain access to ServiceMode app (*#73#). Did some tricks that helped DSS control, MIMO 4x4 (4xALL), Prune (removed), and ignored CA Combination not matching. So far I've been able to get 4g+ (aka 4.5g) and 5g+ when isolating the lte to bands 2 or 66 (couldn't get it under band 4, 5, 13). That said, 5g band n5 kicks in (never got 41, 66, or 77 to work). If the phone idles it's goes back to 4g/4g+ but under load back up to 5g+ (if anyone knows how to hold 5g I'dlike to know). I live in SF Bay Area including SF day trips.