Hello all!
Hope that's the right place to post that question
i want to downgrade my phone from android 12 to android 11 (Asus rog phone 5) because it's very unstable.
i read on the google site that the google auto-backup doesn't support downgrading, so i need a recommendation for software from someone who downgraded his/her phone to a lower version and managed to restore it later on.
Also is this process dangerous? I read the manuals on Asus official site which just talks about backup the phone, then downloading some file from the site restarting the phone and it should install it alone.
Thanks in advance for helping!
dokvader114 said:
Hello all!
Hope that's the right place to post that question
i want to downgrade my phone from android 12 to android 11 (Asus rog phone 5) because it's very unstable.
i read on the google site that the google auto-backup doesn't support downgrading, so i need a recommendation for software from someone who downgraded his/her phone to a lower version and managed to restore it later on.
Also is this process dangerous? I read the manuals on Asus official site which just talks about backup the phone, then downloading some file from the site restarting the phone and it should install it alone.
Thanks in advance for helping!
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As a thumb rule, it is always risky to restore a backup of settings between versions, especially when downgrading.
TNSMANI said:
As a thumb rule, it is always risky to restore a backup of settings between versions, especially when downgrading.
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Any tips or ideas you can share? I must downgrade because android 12 really did a number on my phone
dokvader114 said:
Any tips or ideas you can share? I must downgrade because android 12 really did a number on my phone
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If I were you, I would not backup anything and install everything manually and configure. Whatever you do, please do not back up Android 12's settings and restore them in Android 11.
Third party apps can be backed up using Titanium Backup or some similar backup tools. While restoring them, go by one app at a time so that you will know which app's backup caused issues and you can avoid restoring that app the next time.
dokvader114 said:
Any tips or ideas you can share? I must downgrade because android 12 really did a number on my phone
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Do a manual backup of all your personal stuff. Downgrade (A12 > A11 is really an 'upgrade' ). Then do a clean A11 setup and transfer your files over. Old school but the most solid way...
TNSMANI said:
If I were you, I would not backup anything and install everything manually and configure. Whatever you do, please do not back up Android 12's settings and restore them in Android 11.
Third party apps can be backed up using Titanium Backup or some similar backup tools. While restoring them, go by one app at a time so that you will know which app's backup caused issues and you can avoid restoring that app the next time.
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Andrologic said:
Do a manual backup of all your personal stuff. Downgrade (A12 > A11 is really an 'upgrade' ). Then do a clean A11 setup and transfer your files over. Old school but the most solid way...
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i guess i will make a combination to both
backup some apps with titanium backup (other will be downloaded normally after downgrade)
backup files from files manager through local backup connected to pc
will not backup any setting (maybe will screenshot to restore them manually)
will disconnect google from the phone
download the android 12 to android 11 from the asus site
and hope that anything that was ****ed will be normal again.
will let you know later how it went.
thanks guys.
TNSMANI said:
If I were you, I would not backup anything and install everything manually and configure. Whatever you do, please do not back up Android 12's settings and restore them in Android 11.
Third party apps can be backed up using Titanium Backup or some similar backup tools. While restoring them, go by one app at a time so that you will know which app's backup caused issues and you can avoid restoring that app the next time.
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Any recommendation for backup app for applications that doesn't require root?
If you mean that you are unrooted, then the options are limited. Certain backups require root. ADB backup & restore can also be used.
You can check up this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/need-recommendation-for-a-backup-restore-app-no-root.4401711/ and search in Google.
TNSMANI said:
If you mean that you are unrooted, then the options are limited. Certain backups require root. ADB backup & restore can also be used.
You can check up this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/need-recommendation-for-a-backup-restore-app-no-root.4401711/ and search in Google.
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Please explain what is adb backup? Is that an app or a method?
Can't find a correct reference to said name
Also, does that back up app data? Is this works for downgrading?
dokvader114 said:
Please explain what is adb backup? Is that an app or a method?
Can't find a correct reference to said name
Also, does that back up app data? Is this works for downgrading?
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It is a method to backup and restore using adb commands. It is partially explained in the link that I provided. You can also google adb commands to learn further.
Hi!
I just noticed that there is an official way to do this. Look for the 'Version Android 12 to Android 11' on the official asus page:
- https://www.asus.com/supportonly/ROG Phone 5 (ZS673KS)/HelpDesk_Download/
I found it while looking for an update. But also I look around here at xda to see if there is something relevant on the ROG 5.
Hope it helps
crisaegrim said:
Hi!
I just noticed that there is an official way to do this. Look for the 'Version Android 12 to Android 11' on the official asus page:
- https://www.asus.com/supportonly/ROG Phone 5 (ZS673KS)/HelpDesk_Download/
I found it while looking for an update. But also I look around here at xda to see if there is something relevant on the ROG 5.
Hope it helps
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But doing that will still require me to backup my apps which is my current problem
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Hi there guys.can someone tell me good android manager for windows??
Thanks
amirzubair said:
Hi there guys.can someone tell me good android manager for windows??
Thanks
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I'm not sure that you are asking for what I think you're asking for.
SimonTS said:
I'm not sure that you are asking for what I think you're asking for.
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I asked for a file manager for Windows like PC suite for android phone. To transfer files to mobile and to backup. Hope it is clear?
amirzubair said:
I asked for a file manager for Windows like PC suite for android phone. To transfer files to mobile and to backup. Hope it is clear?
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You don't need one. Just connect your phone in MTP mode (or whatever your device calls it) and use the standard Windows Explorer. To backup an Android device you need a custom Recovery installed so you can take a Nandroid backup.
SimonTS said:
You don't need one. Just connect your phone in MTP mode (or whatever your device calls it) and use the standard Windows Explorer. To backup an Android device you need a custom Recovery installed so you can take a Nandroid backup.
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Thanks.. What u meant by custom recovery installed?
amirzubair said:
Thanks.. What u meant by custom recovery installed?
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Search and read mate. You have a lot of learning to do if you don't know what that means, so you should start now.
I think his asking for something like Samsung Kies. I am also looking for a desktop application similar to KIES because once u flash a custom ROM you cannot use Kies anymore
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Search and read mate. You have a lot of learning to do if you don't know what that means, so you should start now.
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Searching led me here
ShahzaadT said:
I think his asking for something like Samsung Kies. I am also looking for a desktop application similar to KIES because once u flash a custom ROM you cannot use Kies anymore
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Exactly I am asking for the application like kies. And the backup manager to backup my entire android system not just apps and settings without getting into rooting
Google "android commander." I think it needs root though.
Any other suggestion for the backup program that dont require root and create the system image of my android device??
amirzubair said:
Any other suggestion for the backup program that dont require root and create the system image of my android device??
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Seeing as you haven't even bothered to mention at any time what device you have, it would be fairly pointless for anyone to try suggesting that. Any application like you are looking for will be hardware specific.
You can't backup apps and app data if your phone is not rooted. Take a look at My Backup Pro from Play store to view the list of items that can be backup with root and without root. I recommend Titanium Backup if your phone is rooted.
hulkeye said:
You can't backup apps and app data if your phone is not rooted. Take a look at My Backup Pro from Play store to view the list of items that can be backup with root and without root. I recommend Titanium Backup if your phone is rooted.
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Incorrect. Samsung KIES does not require root access to carry out a backup. It's also possible to back up non-rooted with Helium, although I haven't used it so am not sure how simple it is.
SimonTS said:
Seeing as you haven't even bothered to mention at any time what device you have, it would be fairly pointless for anyone to try suggesting that. Any application like you are looking for will be hardware specific.
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Sorry, I have Note 3
Backup app
So no suggestion about the backup app??
Hello
As I've set up many parameters into my running OxygenOS, such as application behavior, battery optimization, miscellanous settings, wallpapers...
How im supposed to backup all those settings regarding OxygenOS in order to avoid to reinstall it while tranfering my phone to another OOS phone ?
PS : my phone is rooted, and I use TitaniumBackup
I wish to get solution to backup problem,
all those settings preferences need to be backuped up but no solution yet found.
at least we still have "titanium backup".
solid.snake said:
Yes, but what should I backup in TitaniumBackup ?
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exactly, not much to backup aside of apps,
you can try to backup system "settings" in "titanium backup".
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solid.snake said:
Hello
As I've set up many parameters into my running OxygenOS, such as application behavior, battery optimization, miscellanous settings, wallpapers...
How im supposed to backup all those settings regarding OxygenOS in order to avoid to reinstall it while tranfering my phone to another OOS phone ?
PS : my phone is rooted, and I use TitaniumBackup
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Use oneplus switch app
x111 said:
I wish to get solution to backup problem,
all those settings preferences need to be backuped up but no solution yet found.
at least we still have "titanium backup".
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Yes, but what should I backup in TitaniumBackup ?
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Use oneplus switch app
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I mean, how to proceed if someone steal my phone, or of I Loose it...
BTW,
Does anyone know the purpose of the "OnePlus account"??
There is no way to choose what to backup, or sync....
solid.snake said:
I mean, how to proceed if someone steal my phone, or of I Loose it...
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Copy the folder opbackup to flash drive or PC after backup. Just choose new backup and select what to back up. Make sure u give oneplus switch app permissions
twinnfamous said:
Copy the folder opbackup to flash drive or PC after backup. Just choose new backup and select what to back up. Make sure u give oneplus switch app permissions
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Is the opbackup folder is create by oneplus switch app ??
Because if yes, I Don't know how to proceed as the app only give a direct transfer capability
solid.snake said:
Is the opbackup folder is create by oneplus switch app ??
Because if yes, I Don't know how to proceed as the app only give a direct transfer capability
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Yes once you do backup
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Yes once you do backup
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Great, I have to select the bottom screen functionality and have at least 30% battery.
Thanks.
I'll try it and report back here has resolved.
Yours
Hi folks.
I did only backup the parameters as suggested by the app, but what a pitty....
The main file only weight 468 Bytes (attachement)
This method is clearly unrelialable. As it doesn't backup my whole parameters.
TitaniumBackup appears to be my last shot, but I still have to determine what to backup...
solid.snake said:
Hi folks.
I did only backup the parameters as suggested by the app, but what a pitty....
The main file only weight 468 Bytes (attachement)
This method is clearly unrelialable. As it doesn't backup my whole parameters.
TitaniumBackup appears to be my last shot, but I still have to determine what to backup...
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I find swiftbackup to be Superior to titanium
preference said:
I find swiftbackup to be Superior to titanium
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Hahahahahaha, really !
It really made me laugh as TitaniumBackup was my first paid application and indeed the most important app through years now.
But as I like some challenges, Im going to try it, not because I Doubt about TitaniumBackup supremacy, but by curiosity.
solid.snake said:
Hahahahahaha, really !
It really made me laugh as TitaniumBackup was my first paid application and indeed the most important app through years now.
But as I like some challenges, Im going to try it, not because I Doubt about TitaniumBackup supremacy, but by curiosity.
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You won't be disappointed. I freeze apps with icebox. Swift backs up more than just apps.
Of course, it's individual choice but I rely on OP Switch as my backup solution. I was a big fan for TB during my rooted days. With excellent Oxygen OS and OP Switch, I have no desire to root the phone anymore.
I haven't used Swift Backup app, but it might be worth the try. It's available on play store.
Gr8man001 said:
Of course, it's individual choice but I rely on OP Switch as my backup solution. I was a big fan for TB during my rooted days. With excellent Oxygen OS and OP Switch, I have no desire to root the phone anymore.
I haven't used Swift Backup app, but it might be worth the try. It's available on play store.
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It requires root so it's not something you would like. Stick with what works for you. I always have to root my phones lol
Gr8man001 said:
Of course, it's individual choice but I rely on OP Switch as my backup solution. I was a big fan for TB during my rooted days. With excellent Oxygen OS and OP Switch, I have no desire to root the phone anymore.
I haven't used Swift Backup app, but it might be worth the try. It's available on play store.
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I can't understand, how to dont have any root Desire in 2020.
Just, how do you handle bloatware or ads (web, app...)?
solid.snake said:
I can't understand, how to dont have any root Desire in 2020.
Just, how do you handle bloatware or ads (web, app...)?
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There aren't many apps on Oxygen OS that I consider bloatware. I use most of them. If I don't use a particular app, I simply disable it. If it still bothers me there are many guides online to debloat using adb commands.
I use paid version of AdGuard and have no issues with blocking ads. One license fee covers all 3 phones in my family.
Hello everyone, hope I will find the answers as I properly did my research and did not find as much info as i wanted.
So, long short story, 2 devices, Pixel 3, bot with root access and custom roms, my question is: Can I backup entirely one rom from another (containing the google pay and google apps) and restore it on the other device, will cards work? From my knowledge, for example, some data is encrypter/stored in some places or some way that an app like Titanium Backup would not restore it totally so, would a total backup and restore from one phone to another work?
Thanks!
testingdomains said:
Hello everyone, hope I will find the answers as I properly did my research and did not find as much info as i wanted.
So, long short story, 2 devices, Pixel 3, bot with root access and custom roms, my question is: Can I backup entirely one rom from another (containing the google pay and google apps) and restore it on the other device, will cards work? From my knowledge, for example, some data is encrypter/stored in some places or some way that an app like Titanium Backup would not restore it totally so, would a total backup and restore from one phone to another work?
Thanks!
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Definitely not possible with Titanium Backup. TB has not been updated since 2019, and restore on recent Android versions does not work properly. I use Swift Backup, and have used it to move apps from one phone to another (the phones both had the same ROM). You might have problems if you have different ROMs on the two phones. I don't use Google Pay, so can't comment on it. I didn't have a problem with the apps I did restore.
Update: it works using twrp (backup and restore only /data)
testingdomains said:
Update: it works using twrp (backup and restore only /data)
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What Android version are you on? I thought TWRP did not work on Pixel 3 Android 11. If you have TWRP that works on 11, where can I get it?
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What Android version are you on? I thought TWRP did not work on Pixel 3 Android 11. If you have TWRP that works on 11, where can I get it?
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Hi, I'm on version 10, only twrp and magisk (keeping as simple and debloated as possible)
Hey all!
I am looking to copy the app data of an HRV app that I have been using off of my Pixel 3 so I can use it elsewhere.
From what I can gather is I need SU access to do this
--> which requires me to root the device,
--> which requires me to unlock the bootloader and flash a patched image
--> which will wipe the device and delete the data I'm trying to extract?
Am I understanding this correctly? Or am I getting some detail wrong?
AM I THE CHICKEN, OR THE EGG, OR THE CHICKEN.....
Thanks in advacnce for fielding this Newbie question
I've been scratching my head for hours now as to whether I need TWRP, or Magisk..... and how I get a Nandroid backup? or Titanium? Will following the setup and steps to get this up and going result in me deleting the very data I'm looking for?
cheers,
Condorman!
iamcondorman said:
Hey all!
I am looking to copy the app data of an HRV app that I have been using off of my Pixel 3 so I can use it elsewhere.
From what I can gather is I need SU access to do this
--> which requires me to root the device,
--> which requires me to unlock the bootloader and flash a patched image
--> which will wipe the device and delete the data I'm trying to extract?
Am I understanding this correctly? Or am I getting some detail wrong?
AM I THE CHICKEN, OR THE EGG, OR THE CHICKEN.....
Thanks in advacnce for fielding this Newbie question
I've been scratching my head for hours now as to whether I need TWRP, or Magisk..... and how I get a Nandroid backup? or Titanium? Will following the setup and steps to get this up and going result in me deleting the very data I'm looking for?
cheers,
Condorman!
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You can try an adb backup. See https://gist.github.com/AnatomicJC/e773dd55ae60ab0b2d6dd2351eb977c1
I can't guarantee it will work for you, but it is pretty much your only hope without root. Forget Titanium Backup, even if you had root. TB has not been updated since 2019, and has restore problems with newer android versions. There is no TWRP for Pixel 3 Android 11.
If you do root (which will require wiping your data) look at Swift Backup. That's what I started using since TB became obsolete.
You understand correctly, and have the details right (unless the adb backup works for you).
dcarvil said:
You can try an adb backup. See https://gist.github.com/AnatomicJC/e773dd55ae60ab0b2d6dd2351eb977c1
I can't guarantee it will work for you, but it is pretty much your only hope without root. Forget Titanium Backup, even if you had root. TB has not been updated since 2019, and has restore problems with newer android versions. There is no TWRP for Pixel 3 Android 11.
If you do root (which will require wiping your data) look at Swift Backup. That's what I started using since TB became obsolete.
You understand correctly, and have the details right (unless the adb backup works for you).
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Hi dcarvil,
Thanks for the response.
I'll look at trying out that gist, although it may be that all hope is lost, I tried some similar commands that gave the '46' byte backup none file because it honored the 'allowbackup=0' app manifest directive
So I'm changing phones, but there's one app which I would have to backup including it's data. If I'd be rooted I could use Titanium Backup, unfortunately I'm not rooted.
Is there a way to root without wiping the phone or is there another way to backup the apps data (and restore) via adb or something else?
Google backup and restore is pretty good, it should restore your apps
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Google backup and restore is pretty good, it should restore your apps
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But I need the actual data of the app, does that come with Google backup and restore?
App in question is WhatsApp and I need the app including the registration etc on the new phone. Titanium backup can do that, but obviously needs root
Whatsapp has its own backup and restore feature I use it all the time. It will restore all your data, chats etc but you have to log in first
beanbean50 said:
Whatsapp has its own backup and restore feature I use it all the time. It will restore all your data, chats etc but you have to log in first
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I know... that's exactly the issue though. I'm asking for a way to backup 1:1 so I don't need to do the login. Which Titanium Backup can do since it's does it with all the apps data, but that obviously needs root which I don't have. Hence I'm asking for help here.
I found this which doesn't need root not sure how deep it goes though
How to fully backup and restore your Android device without root
One of Android’s little-known tricks is its built-in backup and restore process that allows users to save their private data...
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beanbean50 said:
I found this which doesn't need root not sure how deep it goes though
How to fully backup and restore your Android device without root
One of Android’s little-known tricks is its built-in backup and restore process that allows users to save their private data...
9to5google.com
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For that I'd need a way to remove everything from the backup besides WhatsApp though. As that does a backup and restore of everything, all apps, all file system etc IIRC
Trying adb backup now, there seems to be a java tool that allows you to open the backup file on pc
GitHub - nelenkov/android-backup-extractor: Android backup extractor
Android backup extractor. Contribute to nelenkov/android-backup-extractor development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com
M4-NOOB said:
For that I'd need a way to remove everything from the backup besides WhatsApp though. As that does a backup and restore of everything, all apps, all file system etc IIRC
Trying adb backup now, there seems to be a java tool that allows you to open the backup file on pc
GitHub - nelenkov/android-backup-extractor: Android backup extractor
Android backup extractor. Contribute to nelenkov/android-backup-extractor development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com
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Unfortunately WhatsApp wasn't included in the full backup for some reason
I just tried an app on play store called Swift Backup and it worked!
I made a backup of just whatsapp then deleted it and it restored it without signing in
beanbean50 said:
I just tried an app on play store called Swift Backup and it worked!
I made a backup of just whatsapp then deleted it and it restored it without signing in
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Is your phone rooted? Because all it does for me is apk backup, no data
hmm.. yep I'm rooted
why can't you sign in to whatsapp on your new phone
beanbean50 said:
hmm.. yep I'm rooted
why can't you sign in to whatsapp on your new phone
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I'm living in the UK for a few more months, but still use my German number on WhatsApp. The number has since been retired so I can't get SMS/calls on that one anymore, so I'm unable to sign in.
I wish I would've rooted the phone....
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So I'm changing phones, but there's one app which I would have to backup including it's data. If I'd be rooted I could use Titanium Backup, unfortunately I'm not rooted.
Is there a way to root without wiping the phone or is there another way to backup the apps data (and restore) via adb or something else?
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Is that the Samsung moving phones thingy? Does that move apps including it's data so you don't have to set them up again?
I usually avoid the moving data from phone to phone during setup, because I take setting up a new phone as an opportunity to clean up data/apps. So I only reinstall those I actually need
EDIT: Just tried it, sadly not:
https://imgur.com/gyCtmLs
M4-NOOB said:
Is that the Samsung moving phones thingy? Does that move apps including it's data so you don't have to set them up again?
I usually avoid the moving data from phone to phone during setup, because I take setting up a new phone as an opportunity to clean up data/apps. So I only reinstall those I actually need
EDIT: Just tried it, sadly not:
https://imgur.com/gyCtmLs
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Backup with ur whatsapp. Its too easy. Anyway, in case u cant do it, think u have to reset only single app (whatsapp - like ur screenshot), so u cant?
tiennhu89 said:
Backup with ur whatsapp. Its too easy. Anyway, in case u cant do it, think u have to reset only single app (whatsapp - like ur screenshot), so u cant?
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As mentioned in here, using the backup inside WhatsApp still needs you to sign in again on the new phone which isn't my goal. I want to backup ALL of WhatsApp including the sign in, so I can just move it to the new phone without logging in.
M4-NOOB said:
As mentioned in here, using the backup inside WhatsApp still needs you to sign in again on the new phone which isn't my goal. I want to backup ALL of WhatsApp including the sign in, so I can just move it to the new phone without logging in.
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Then u have 2 options:
1 - Root your phone.
2 - Ask dev of Whatsapp to do something for u (for all too.lol). But i think it'll never come true. Its too risky for any apps.
tiennhu89 said:
Then u have 2 options:
1 - Root your phone.
2 - Ask dev of Whatsapp to do something for u (for all too.lol). But i think it'll never come true. Its too risky for any apps.
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Yeah thanks, I know it's possible with root which I don't have and doing it wipes the phone which makes my whole reason for this pointless.
This whole post was just asking if there's any way to do it without root. If you can't help don't reply?