I used to enjoy an HTC 4G LTE rooted and unlocked, but that needed to be replaced
due to random restarts and display problems. I'm still using it to play a few games
not available to current Android models, while my working device is, in fact,
a Samsung A71 5G. (the old one has been transferred to a newer display,
which allows me to play the games as I chill out in my car before going in to work.)
So my question is this: Is there any way to get past the reduced-bandwidth limit of this device
for tethering without resorting to an expensive root procedure? I was flush a year or two ago when I
took delivery on the phone, but I can't justify the expense now for gaining full root, especially
when my wife and I are making less than we did then.
Is there anything out there for me?
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So... I'm working on a limited budget here, but I need a new cellphone at the very least (my old Cappy bricked, and from gym use had the moisture indicator activated =[) and maybe a new tablet. I do have a laptop, but I've come to realize that there are indeed "intermediate" situations where a laptop would be too cumbersome but internet/digital functionality is still needed (I used to be a cynic too, "If I have a laptop, why do I need a tablet?").
So the question is, as stated in the title, which of the following "options" should I go for?
1) Captivate/Inspire (midrange Android phone) + Galaxy Tab 10.1
Or
2) Samsung Galaxy S II (once it comes out on AT&T hopefully in July)
Your thoughts are appreciated, and I'll be happy to give answer more questions to give you a background on my sitch.
Lencias said:
So... I'm working on a limited budget here, but I need a new cellphone at the very least (my old Cappy bricked, and from gym use had the moisture indicator activated =[) and maybe a new tablet. I do have a laptop, but I've come to realize that there are indeed "intermediate" situations where a laptop would be too cumbersome but internet/digital functionality is still needed (I used to be a cynic too, "If I have a laptop, why do I need a tablet?").
So the question is, as stated in the title, which of the following "options" should I go for?
1) Captivate/Inspire (midrange Android phone) + Galaxy Tab 10.1
Or
2) Samsung Galaxy S II (once it comes out on AT&T hopefully in July)
Your thoughts are appreciated, and I'll be happy to give answer more questions to give you a background on my sitch.
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From personal experience, I found a good compromise in the Dell Streak 5. It's a big phone, but if you like a big screen you'll be all over it. I'd been after one for ages and have held onto it longer than almost any other device (four weeks - i know...)
I think the question to ask yourself is 'what am I going to get the most use out of?' Do you skimp a bit on the phone for a tablet's sake, or do you go the whole hog with the phone and forget the tablet?
Let me know what you decide, I'd love to hear your thoughts!
I would get the Galaxy SII instead of the other combination.
Reasons:
1. You can do and have basically almost everything a tablet does/has, beside the bigger screen.
2. You can have one internet contract if you have the Galaxy SII, no need for 2 nor 3 nor more. (if you have a smartphone and a tablet, you will be needing one contract for the smartphone and one for the tablet, 2 contracts in total...means...more expensive upkeep)
3. A smartphone is easier to carry around than a tablet.
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I would get the Galaxy SII instead of the other combination.
Reasons:
1. You can do and have basically almost everything a tablet does/has, beside the bigger screen.
2. You can have one internet contract if you have the Galaxy SII, no need for 2 nor 3 nor more. (if you have a smartphone and a tablet, you will be needing one contract for the smartphone and one for the tablet, 2 contracts in total...means...more expensive upkeep)
3. A smartphone is easier to carry around than a tablet.
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Not necessarily. I have a single data plan on my smartphone. WiFi tethering, available on almost all newer smartphones these days (especially Android) allows you to share a data connection between several devices. No separate contracts, and if you're using a HTC smartphone it's as easy as connecting to a new WiFi network
Your other points are good though. A phone is far more portable, and as they both run Android functionality will be almost the same. It's the usability that changes
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Not necessarily. I have a single data plan on my smartphone. WiFi tethering, available on almost all newer smartphones these days (especially Android) allows you to share a data connection between several devices. No separate contracts, and if you're using a HTC smartphone it's as easy as connecting to a new WiFi network
Your other points are good though. A phone is far more portable, and as they both run Android functionality will be almost the same. It's the usability that changes
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I have also a flat rate internet contract which allows me to theter....but....
Thetering? You have get a BIGGER battery for that, if you plan to use it often.
Battery live is the biggest problem if you use an Android smartphone as an internet hot spot.
I tried it several times but only under immergency situation.
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I have also a flat rate internet contract which allows me to theter....but....
Thetering? You have get a BIGGER battery for that, if you plan to use it often.
Battery live is the biggest problem if you use an Android smartphone as an internet hot spot.
I tried it several times but only under immergency situation.
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This is true! I didn't really see that big of a difference though.
I was using an HTC Incredible S, tethering to my desktop (without charging). It definitely drained quicker, but I got three hours out of it and the battery only dropped 10%.
I agree that you wouldn't want to do it all day though. But it will save you from a second data contract and all the cost
Having taken my AT&T One X back, I have been considering the advantages of the International version and this is what I came up with:
More frequent updates
Free wireless tether out of the box
No bloatware or branding
Unlocked Bootloader
Twice the storage
Am I missing anything? Even though most of the bloatware can be disabled, there is still some that you can't, which eats into the RAM.
I have LTE in my area and it's fast, but my current phone doesn't have it and I can definitely live without it. Given that they are the same price off contract, I'm starting to think that the International version is a better bet.
I'm aware that performance and battery life are better on the S4, but other than benchmarks, I'm not sure the performance angle will mean much. Better battery life interests me, but timely updates from HTC may narrow that gap on the International version.
Positives
- While Adreno's no slouch, you could argue GeForce is better for gaming and you'd also have access to the Tergra Zone.
- Multitasking's been improved (too early to say it’s “good”) but it may be on the U.S. version too with updates.
- You get to select what app to open e-mail, pics, videos, web links, etc. with on the fly which has been removed in the U.S. version. Flashing custom ROMs would fix that though.
- You get back whatever stock HTC apps AT&T ordered removed. Someone who owns both phones could probably tell what they are and whether they're worth anything.
- The radio (for me) has been the best I've ever had on a phone. That includes celllular, Wi-FI, and BT. It picks up cell signals better than the i9100 did, moves between Wi-Fi and cellular cleanly, and BT auto connects to all my devices three times as fast and more reliably than the i9100. It's not fair to judge the U.S. version in its current state as it's obviously experiencing some bugs which will likely be worked out.
- You get a two vs. one year warranty.
- You get to use this which I think is pretty cool. I have a couple on order so it'll be kept charging when I'm not using it. It's supposedly "Bose-like" in its sound reproduction and charges the phone using the pogo pins. It connects via BT using Apt.X for lossless sound. They may make one for the U.S. version but for now the pogo pins are in the wrong place.
Negatives
- Battery life isn't as good as the U.S. version. You should get 12-14 hours but anything over that is pushing it. You'll also have a stroke until you rack up a few charge cycles because out-of-the-box it's pretty scary.
- Certain apps think you're in the UK. I have to use an old hacked version of Amazon MP3 to get cloud access.
- There's some debate about warranty support. The phone may have to be shipped to the UK if it needs repair. That's HTC's policy (Samsung's is the same) but some people have gotten repairs done in the U.S. It seems pretty random.
- HTC instituted a new warranty policy regarding third party ROMs with the One's. If you unlock the bootloader using HTCdev and they detect a third party ROM was used your h/w warranty is void. Since the bootloader's not unlocked on the U.S. version yet it's too soon to say if the same policy will be applied here.
- You have to buy SquareTrade for ADH since it's not available from AT&T. That also takes care of any issues with HTC not covering the warranty on ROM'd devices. It's transferable so you'll get more for the phone when you're ready to sell it.
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Positives
- While Adreno's no slouch, you could argue GeForce is better for gaming and you'd also have access to the Tergra Zone.
- Multitasking's been improved (too early to say it’s “good”) but it may be on the U.S. version too with updates.
- You get to select what app to open e-mail, pics, videos, web links, etc. with on the fly which has been removed in the U.S. version. Flashing custom ROMs would fix that though.
- You get back whatever stock HTC apps AT&T ordered removed. Someone who owns both phones could probably tell what they are and whether they're worth anything.
- The radio (for me) has been the best I've ever had on a phone. That includes celllular, Wi-FI, and BT. It picks up cell signals better than the i9100 did, moves between Wi-Fi and cellular cleanly, and BT auto connects to all my devices three times as fast and more reliably than the i9100. It's not fair to judge the U.S. version in its current state as it's obviously experiencing some bugs which will likely be worked out.
- You get a two vs. one year warranty.
- You get to use this which I think is pretty cool. I have a couple on order so it'll be kept charging when I'm not using it. It's supposedly "Bose-like" in its sound reproduction and charges the phone using the pogo pins. It connects via BT using Apt.X for lossless sound. They may make one for the U.S. version but for now the pogo pins are in the wrong place.
Negatives
- Battery life isn't as good as the U.S. version. You should get 12-14 hours but anything over that is pushing it. You'll also have a stroke until you rack up a few charge cycles because out-of-the-box it's pretty scary.
- Certain apps think you're in the UK. I have to use an old hacked version of Amazon MP3 to get cloud access.
- There's some debate about warranty support. The phone may have to be shipped to the UK if it needs repair. That's HTC's policy (Samsung's is the same) but some people have gotten repairs done in the U.S. It seems pretty random.
- HTC instituted a new warranty policy regarding third party ROMs with the One's. If you unlock the bootloader using HTCdev and they detect a third party ROM was used your h/w warranty is void. Since the bootloader's not unlocked on the U.S. version yet it's too soon to say if the same policy will be applied here.
- You have to buy SquareTrade for ADH since it's not available from AT&T. That also takes care of any issues with HTC not covering the warranty on ROM'd devices. It's transferable so you'll get more for the phone when you're ready to sell it.
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Thanks, Barry. You're a stud, as usual. That actually sounds pretty good. I don't bother with warranties. As long as the place I order from has a decent return policy (in the event it's a lemon), I'm good.
I am a little worried about battery life. All of the reviews made the S4 version sound so good. Battery tests I have seen are all over the place. Seems that the tegra version has longer call time and the S4 has longer web browsing.
I also noticed a thread in the International forum dedicated to complaining about Multitasking, so I wonder if it is still an issue.
Radio is that good, huh? Are you on AT&T? Did you have to set up a specific HSPA+ APN to get full speed? I had to do that on my Nexus.
greyhulk said:
I am a little worried about battery life.
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It should get you through the day easily syncing, doing productivity stuff, streaming audio, and browsing. Game play and videos will require a top-up.
I also noticed a thread in the International forum dedicated to complaining about Multitasking, so I wonder if it is still an issue.
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They're neurotic. A handful of them bricked their phones screwing around trying to recover what they thought was lost space on the SD partition; even though none of them seemed to actually need the space. HTC's running virtual drives so the phone shows up as "disk storage" vs. using MTP. They racked up 100 pages discussing it. In Astro, I could see it calculating actual files stored correctly but reporting available space differently because an HTC apps was holding space. The space was there if needed because the HTC app would have reduced the cache it was retaining. So it was a reporting error not an actual loss of space. It also would have been the same on the U.S. version and I think with half the storage at least one person would have stumbled upon it. Moral of the story: trust nothing on the international forum.
I know how important multitasking is to you. Give me a list of things you couldn't live without having opened at the same time and I'll test them. I wouldn’t want you buying the phone on hearsay.
Radio is that good, huh? Are you on AT&T? Did you have to set up a specific HSPA+ APN to get full speed? I had to do that on my Nexus.
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I had the i9100 for eleven months and never got MMS working 100% of the time. With the One X, I popped the SIM in and it read the APNs without me having to do a thing. Keep in mind AT&T's a mess though. F-ups are usually due to the SIM, APNs, and/or plan provisioned on your account not lining up. So it's always a YMMV based on the plan linked to your account.
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I know how important multitasking is to you. Give me a list of things you couldn't live without having opened at the same time and I'll test them. I wouldn’t want you buying the phone on hearsay.
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You also have the Nexus. How does battery life compare to your Nexus? Mine has been stellar. If it's anything like the Nexus (or better), I'll be fine.
As for multitasking: It's not really like that. I fast switch between apps all the time, but I don't have a particular usage scenario. To me, ICS is made for multitasking, thus the dedicated button, so nerfing it seems ridiculous.
Mostly, I see myself multitasking between my bank app and calculator or a web page (which I already know refreshes) and e-mail. Sometimes, I multitask between the gallery and messaging, if I'm looking for a pic to send or a particular image. Maps and e-mail (if someone gives you directions or sends you an address).
Honestly, I tend to open apps from the tray most of the time, but I sometimes use the multitasking button to go back to one I used recently. Even on the nexus, those will die after a while.
My one other true, main concern is push e-mail. Someone in the AT&T forum reported that it was just the AT&T versions having that issue. I really need to believe that because if I get the International version and it's still a problem, I'll be sad. I suppose I could wait for an update, but it's that critical to me. My job depends on timely responses to e-mail.
Have been using Motorola phones for the past 15 years or so, just because in general the call quality and build has always been better for me. Just recently bought a Note 3, was a great phone until I had issues with the sound quality, it sucked. I returned it. [ though apparently there was a Samsung software fix for that ] I'm a truck driver and have a Bluetooth hung on my ear for the better part of 12 hours a day, $ 2700.00 federal fine, no questions asked if not using hands free. So call quality is important. Went back to a Motorola Droid Maxx. I have always rooted my phone, changed the entitlement and eliminated all the bloatware. Rooted the Droid Maxx, but with the new Kit Kat that screws up the root, which there is a new root. I'm getting so tired of re-rooting the phone every 6 month or so, [every time there's a new android up date.] What I want is to get a phone that I can install a custom Rom, keep using my unlimited data and not mess with the phone every 6 months or so......don't mind out right buying a phone. So what phone to purchase ? I have always needed a large screen, big battery. And most important good call quality. Apparently the Droid maxx can't be unlocked yet. So what other choices do I have. Galaxy s4 ? Do I purchase a developers addition, unlocked. Need someone to walk me through the process. Not completely sure what ROM to install, was recommended to install Cyanogenmod ? Need some feedback from the Pros.
Hello, all!
I've been an iPod Touch + Nokia flip-phone user for many years, and just last week I finally purchased an unlocked Motorola Moto G LTE (XT1045) to replace them both. So, since I'm new to the Android world, I have come to ask this question:
How long would you recommend I wait before rooting my device? There are some features that would REALLY like (moving entire apps to SD card (I was a bit dismayed to find that when moving all my apps to the SD card, it only saved a very, very small amount of storage space), as well as being able to prioritize memory usage for apps, Titanium backup, underclocking while phone is locked, etc.). I'm viewing this phone more like a very mobile computer than I did my iPod Touch I always carried, and as such I am expecting more of it.
The reason I ask is I am wondering how long it will take for good support to start showing up for custom ROMs and stuff. Since this is my first time rooting a device, I would like there to be a decent amount of documentation, and would also like the majority of the bugs worked out of anything involving rooting for this specific phone.
On a side note, does anyone know of a way to unlock the bootloader without going through Motorola's site? I've read that by going through there to get the unlock code, you are basically registering your phone as "not under warranty." So, if something that is clearly a manufacturing defect (like charging connector becoming loose or something like that) shows up in a month, I'd like to be able to un-root it to send it in.
Thanks in advance!
ElectroPulse
BUMP.
I got to thinking about it, and since I am actually going to be outside of the country for the next 10 months, so my warranty is pretty much useless anyway. Shipping it back would require removing the battery, which in turn would void the warranty.
So, at this point my only question is how long would you recommend to wait to root my phone in order for there to be good documentation, and good support for custom ROMs and stuff?
Thanks!
ElectroPulse
Just wanted to find some opinions on what to get basically it's been awhile since I was on her and my note ten is having the cold battery can't charge issue so Im looking what to replace it with and need root and loved the functionality of a fully unlocked bootloader but I missed the great speeds of a US phone since I'm in the US so wonder what I shoud do?
Too cold, won't charge?
You think it's a mobo failure on the 10+?
I've never seen that warning. Use something like DevChek to view all the sensor temperatures.
May just be a battery failure. They're good for about 2 years on a heavily used phone, my lasted 1.5 years and failed.
I'm looking at getting a second Note. My choices are another 10+ or a new 20U. It will likely be another 10+; it a solid, stable, fast phone with no glaring issues. If still running on Pie, that's a huge plus, Android 10 and especially 11 just suck. I don't have high hopes for 12.
So if it's the battery or C port PCB*, just replace and wait for the 2022 Note release.
From what I've read the Snapdragon has a better chipset architecture and instruction set.
They seem to be notoriously hard to root. Probably not a good choice for rooting.
I know you can optimize a stock 10+/Pie, not sure how well that will go with Android 10 and above. Some of the functionality isn't there for valuable 3rd party apps like Karma Firewall's logging feature. You can still use Package Disabler or ADB edits to kill the bloatware though.
On newer high dollar phones is many ways rooting is a liability especially with warranty/insurance and you lose Knox, Samsung Pass etc if you use that junk. There are those especially on this forum that swear by it but won't acknowledge their cost in time (which can be and typically is huge) and inconvenience.
Stock Androids/roms are easier to troubleshoot and more secure. If there are issues with a stock setup there will be thousands or more with the same issue making solutions more likely and easier to find. With a custom setup you are on your own which can quickly implode into a time sucking blackhole in more ways than there are stars.
If I was going to root it be an older Note... not a brand new one... risk/time vs reward.
*the C port PCB may have a temperature sensor, not sure. It can cause a lot of bizarre issues in seemingly unrelated systems like internet connection, I know that for a fact. Make sure if you do replace it you get the exact PN that on that PCB or it will not function properly! Both the battery and C port PCB are relatively easy to replace with the proper tools and skillset. Both are cheap, under $50. Make sure you replace the back cover OEM seal with the same or equivalent if you open it up. Do not use generic double sided adhesive tape!
And the award for Longest Post Title and Longest Run On Sentence In A XDA Post goes to...
*Nervously opens envelope*
@ressegger !!!
*Raucous applause*
ressegger said:
Just wanted to find some opinions on what to get basically it's been awhile since I was on her and my note ten is having the cold battery can't charge issue so Im looking what to replace it with and need root and loved the functionality of a fully unlocked bootloader but I missed the great speeds of a US phone since I'm in the US so wonder what I shoud do?
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Yes ,
i had this same issue of yours ,
"to cold to charge" can't charge ,
notice/issue .....many years back .
Can't remember which device of mine it was , think it was a Samsung Tablet A 2016 .
Anyway ,
Took devices to Samsung Service Centre.
It was the USB charging port .
They did not charge me much for the repairs .
Got it fixed and device charging normally / working fine afterwards.
My point is whatever you do or decide do not "throw/give "device away .
It's a small fix.....!
good luck
I am running the US snapdragon spammy 20 - ultra rooted up with boot loader unlocked thanks to afane and his advanced bros, although due to the lock down on many features such as scoped (controlled) storage preventing apps from being installed outside of the control room (googel store), did I mention notification sound got locked down too?