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It's probably a n00b question so apologies in advance, but if I root / bootloader unlock and Cyanogenmod flash an Android phone that's locked to a certain network, will that network lock be removed along with the official default Android ROM? Or is the lock at something like a BIOS level (or whatever the smartphone equivalent of a BIOS is)?
I bought a pre-unlocked Xperia U about a year ago that I've been using on Vodafone and had to return it under warranty (got stuck in a boot loop despite the fact that it's totally unmodified, not even rooted, honest!) and the replacement they sent back is locked to Virgin Mobile. They're telling me that the phone I sent them was originally sold to Virgin in France and locked to Virgin before I bought it, and that they've therefore fulfilled their responsibility. So I'm just wondering now about unlocking, and I've always been curious anyway about how / if bootloader unlocking, custom ROMs etc are related to network unlocking.
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide with this!
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splscs said:
It's probably a n00b question so apologies in advance, but if I root / bootloader unlock and Cyanogenmod flash an Android phone that's locked to a certain network, will that network lock be removed along with the official default Android ROM? Or is the lock at something like a BIOS level (or whatever the smartphone equivalent of a BIOS is)?
I bought a pre-unlocked Xperia U about a year ago that I've been using on Vodafone and had to return it under warranty (got stuck in a boot loop despite the fact that it's totally unmodified, not even rooted, honest!) and the replacement they sent back is locked to Virgin Mobile. They're telling me that the phone I sent them was originally sold to Virgin in France and locked to Virgin before I bought it, and that they've therefore fulfilled their responsibility. So I'm just wondering now about unlocking, and I've always been curious anyway about how / if bootloader unlocking, custom ROMs etc are related to network unlocking.
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide with this!
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well u can unlock it.. by getting the code from sony..
It will also unlock the ph..'s Sim lock..
Or ask the sony officialy for this.. they'll provide u every info required.
But unlocking the bl will do the job for you to be sim free
But do double check this from google too.
Also before unlocking pls make a backup as it will wipe everything from the device.
Just unlock and don't flash any custom kernels.If you want to then do it carefully pls with a backup and a copy of flashable stock rom.
Flash custom roms based on stock kernels
Hope this will answer the query..
Thanks for your reply! I spoke to Sony and they just told me to contact the network (which have done and they're wanting to charge me a fee to provide the unlock code). So to clarify, if I root the phone and unlock the bootloader, the network SIM lock will also be removed?
splscs said:
Thanks for your reply! I spoke to Sony and they just told me to contact the network (which have done and they're wanting to charge me a fee to provide the unlock code). So to clarify, if I root the phone and unlock the bootloader, the network SIM lock will also be removed?
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Not by rooting but also i guess not even by unlocking bl..
how much are they charging exactly..
i'll try to find the link for this
Also check this that how many times is the code applied for unlocking..it should not be 0
use this *#*#7378243#*#* in dialer
then service info sim lock
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Not by rooting but also i guess not even by unlocking bl..
how much are they charging exactly..
i'll try to find the link for this
Also check this that how many times is the code applied for unlocking..it should not be 0
use this *#*#7378243#*#* in dialer
then service info sim lock
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When I dial that number, the number just disappears. What is it for? They want £15.32 for the code. Should I just pay them and forget about trying to remove the lock?
splscs said:
When I dial that number, the number just disappears. What is it for? They want £15.32 for the code. Should I just pay them and forget about trying to remove the lock?
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Sorry the code is this
*#*#7378423#*#*
check the sim lock counters should be zero in all..
if zero then once u can try googling the code for unlocking if they work then it's great.
if not then it would be better to pay them for this as its a bit risky..
and are u using virgin's network??
As it's cheaper what they areaskingfor i guess.
ADDICT.ANK said:
Sorry the code is this
*#*#7378423#*#*
check the sim lock counters should be zero in all..
if zero then once u can try googling the code for unlocking if they work then it's great.
if not then it would be better to pay them for this as its a bit risky..
and are u using virgin's network??
As it's cheaper what they areaskingfor i guess.
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Thanks, I'll give it a try! And nah I use Vodafone. Virgin has no signal at all in my area.
I am completely clueless of what bootloader is and after some googling, I think that it's the locking of a phone's network to a specific company like verizon, at&t etc. But, here in India, we don't have such contracts, so do I need to unlock bootloader before rooting my phone? I previously had galaxy ace and there was no mention of bootloader even when I installed all sorts of custom roms.
nitish159 said:
I am completely clueless of what bootloader is and after some googling, I think that it's the locking of a phone's network to a specific company like verizon, at&t etc. But, here in India, we don't have such contracts, so do I need to unlock bootloader before rooting my phone? I previously had galaxy ace and there was no mention of bootloader even when I installed all sorts of custom roms.
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you just won't get root if your bootloader is locked
Unlock it for root, CWM, ROMs , etc
No, a bootloader doesn't do what you assumed, it just restricts your devices from any alteration by giving you limited access. Region locked or carrier lock is a different thing.
Thanks all, one more thing, if I unlock bootloader then can I get my warranty back?
nitish159 said:
Thanks all, one more thing, if I unlock bootloader then can I get my warranty back?
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NO, you won't. When you apply for the code on Motorola site you lose your warranty. Even if you somehow manage to trick them, Moto G will still show status code as 2 (meaning relocked) instead of 1 (locked) or 3 (unlocked). Anybody feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
The bootloader can't be unlocked on Motorola's website, someone on Telegram unlocked the bootloader of his Moto G7 Power he bought at AT&T, he sim unlocked it then put a MetroPCS sim card int here and unlocked the bootloader. What I'm wondering is if I get my phone sim unlocked, will it change the CID number? Will it make the bootloader unlockable? Will it change the bootloader? I've tried flashing MetroPCS firmware and Retail firmware, both times it changed the BL:MBM number on fastboot, so did that change the bootloader? I appreciate any help in advance. Thank you.
Nothing you can readily do will change the bootloader unlockability.
Someone unlocked the bootloader on AT&T Moto G7 Power yesterday, he said all he did was sim unlock the phone then he put in a Metro PCS sim card and then he unlocked the bootloader. Obviously it changed the bootloader because before that he wasn't able to unlock the bootloader. I know that Cricket, AT&T, and Verizon all keep their bootloaders to where they can't be unlocked which should be illegal especially since I bought the phone outright and I own the phone.
I haven't seen the details.
How was it SIM unlocked?
Changing the SIM should not change the code that is submitted on the website.
The details are on the Telegram group, he sim unlocked it by calling AT&T.
Shinedowngirl87 said:
The details are on the Telegram group, he sim unlocked it by calling AT&T.
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So an official unlock route.
That may have updated the code or Motorola's database so it pases for bootloader unlock.
What are the unofficial lock routes? Because obviously it's possible to root this phone somehow.
Shinedowngirl87 said:
What are the unofficial lock routes? Because obviously it's possible to root this phone somehow.
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One way is buy an unlocked phone instead of one SIM locked to a carrier. Those can be bootloader unlocked out of the box.
Or go through the carrier. Policies vary so you should ask them. It appears from above that AT&T unlocking allows bootloader unlocking. That may not be true for all carriers.
There are 3rd party ways to remove a SIM lock, but that provably wouldn't allow for bootloader unlocking.
So has anybody been able to unlock bootloader on Cricket Moto g7?
I know a guy who can help but it cost money
ST Dog said:
One way is buy an unlocked phone instead of one SIM locked to a carrier. Those can be bootloader unlocked out of the box.
Or go through the carrier. Policies vary so you should ask them. It appears from above that AT&T unlocking allows bootloader unlocking. That may not be true for all carriers.
There are 3rd party ways to remove a SIM lock, but that provably wouldn't allow for bootloader unlocking.
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Metro's G7 power can be bootloader unlocked out of the box no matter sim locked or not.
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edwardxi said:
Metro's G7 power can be bootloader unlocked out of the box no matter sim locked or not.
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Not always true. Carriers can gray out the allow bootloader unlocking option. I know Cricket did so on an E5 Supra (Plus) I have and I just got an Xfinity G7 Power & it's the same way. Even though it remains grayed out, the E5 allowed the bootloader unlock after I got the carrier code from Cricket, but then it's not on Motorola's site so it remains bootloader locked. The G7 Power was just the opposite- I paid to have it unlocked (cheaper than a month of service). I input the numbers from ADB there and got a bootloader unlock code from Motorola right away. When I tried to use it, it failed since the bootloader unlock option on the phone remains grayed out.
From what I've read here, the Metro G7 Power is the only carrier phone I've seen that is not bootloader locked by the carrier.
Hi, did the comcast phone have an unlock app on it? Who did you use for the unlock pllease?
I bought the supra today and sadly motorola website does not support it for unlock all other versions can be however I am hoping someone finds work around at least for root etc but totally want a bootloader unlock more than anything root and twrp without it I dont even really want the dang phone
NP08 said:
The G7 Power was just the opposite- I paid to have it unlocked (cheaper than a month of service). I input the numbers from ADB there and got a bootloader unlock code from Motorola right away. When I tried to use it, it failed since the bootloader unlock option on the phone remains grayed out.
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Can you please share this service you paid for to unlock this phone?
So on motorola.com they offer the Moto Z4 Unlocked and the Moto Z4 Verizon. Is it possible to unlock the bootloader on the unlocked version? I know Verizon locks down all phones. and is it possible to use the carrier unlocked version on Verizon? I know some of the old phones didn't have the correct band to work with Verizon's network but things change and Verizon is now offering bring your own device now.
I'm still rocking the Z force with the shatterproof screen is there any news if Motorola going to bring it back on any new phone?
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So on motorola.com they offer the Moto Z4 Unlocked and the Moto Z4 Verizon. Is it possible to unlock the bootloader on the unlocked version? I know Verizon locks down all phones. and is it possible to use the carrier unlocked version on Verizon? I know some of the old phones didn't have the correct band to work with Verizon's network but things change and Verizon is now offering bring your own device now.
I'm still rocking the Z force with the shatterproof screen is there any news if Motorola going to bring it back on any new phone?
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You can indeed unlock the BL on the unlocked model, and I do believe it is compatible with VZW, however, the Unlocked model won't work with the Verizon 5G Moto mod, even if its on Verizons network. I believe only the VZW model will work with the 5g mod...
bdizzle1686 said:
You can indeed unlock the BL on the unlocked model, and I do believe it is compatible with VZW, however, the Unlocked model won't work with the Verizon 5G Moto mod, even if its on Verizons network. I believe only the VZW model will work with the 5g mod...
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I'm in Los Angeles so its going to be some time before the 5G is up and running here. I'm more interested in the bootloader part of it and if it has band 13 working?
Moto z⁴ unlocked $499.99 connectivity Networks + bands
LTE:B1/B2/B3/B4/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B18/B19/B20/B25/B26/B28/B30/B38/B40/B41/B41HPUE/B66/B71
UMTS: B1/B2/B4/B5/B8
CDMA: BC0/BC1/BC10
GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
CDMA: BC0/BC1/BC10
GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
looks like it is compatible on Verizon and AT&T B13 and B17 now i just need proof of bootloader unlocked :fingers-crossed:
Z4 unlocked version on Verizon here, works fine.
I mentioned this in another thread - I did successfully get a bootloader unlock code from the Moto site, but haven't actually done the unlock yet.
wraith1932 said:
Z4 unlocked version on Verizon here, works fine.
I mentioned this in another thread - I did successfully get a bootloader unlock code from the Moto site, but haven't actually done the unlock yet.
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Thank you its still a fairly new phone but you would think there should be more info on it. if you ever do unlock it can you post a video please.
I have ordered the phone from Motorola, looking very much forward to using this phone with a custom Rom like LineageOS so I am hoping the Rom support will soon pick up. Here is a good walkthrough I found for unlocking the bootloader.
https://myphoneupdate.com/unlock-bootloader-motorola-moto-z4/
DrakeJones said:
I have ordered the phone from Motorola, looking very much forward to using this phone with a custom Rom like LineageOS so I am hoping the Rom support will soon pick up. Here is a good walkthrough I found for unlocking the bootloader.
https://myphoneupdate.com/unlock-bootloader-motorola-moto-z4/
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very cool keep us posted when you unlock bootloader please :good:
Noob question. I'm still on my old Note 3 but looking at possibly upgrading to the z4. Don't you have to root the phone before you can unlock the bootloader?
shallmann said:
Noob question. I'm still on my old Note 3 but looking at possibly upgrading to the z4. Don't you have to root the phone before you can unlock the bootloader?
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No its the other way around its easier to root the phone after you unlock the bootloader. To root your Android phone (i.e. gain administrative access), you'll need to unlock your bootloader first.
Marco0070 said:
Moto z⁴ unlocked $499.99 connectivity Networks + bands
LTE:B1/B2/B3/B4/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B18/B19/B20/B25/B26/B28/B30/B38/B40/B41/B41HPUE/B66/B71
UMTS: B1/B2/B4/B5/B8
CDMA: BC0/BC1/BC10
GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
CDMA: BC0/BC1/BC10
GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
looks like it is compatible on Verizon and AT&T B13 and B17 now i just need proof of bootloader unlocked :fingers-crossed:
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I just bought the moto z4 on Verizon. I was surprised to find that the allow bootloader access wasn't blocked or removed from the developer menu and it was already switched on.
Marco0070 said:
No its the other way around its easier to root the phone after you unlock the bootloader. To root your Android phone (i.e. gain administrative access), you'll need to unlock your bootloader first.
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Thanks for your reply. It was backwards with Samsung. In fact for a while I was rooted but couldn't unlock the bootloader.
tenacious soul said:
I just bought the moto z4 on Verizon. I was surprised to find that the allow bootloader access wasn't blocked or removed from the developer menu and it was already switched on.
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That doesn't really do anything especially on the verizon model. On the unlocked carrier version you need to switch that on then unlock the bootloader with a code that motorola gives you.
shallmann said:
Thanks for your reply. It was backwards with Samsung. In fact for a while I was rooted but couldn't unlock the bootloader.
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That is true with a lot of phones but that's a temporary root or a hacked root. Verizon doesn't like their phones to be rooted or bootloader unlocked so they send "security" updates to patch root access to phones that developers found hacks to gain root access to. But if the bootloader is unlocked they can't patch that so you can remove root update your phone then root it again very easily.
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You can indeed unlock the BL on the unlocked model, and I do believe it is compatible with VZW, however, the Unlocked model won't work with the Verizon 5G Moto mod, even if its on Verizons network. I believe only the VZW model will work with the 5g mod...
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actually called VZW about this a couple weeks back, tier 1 guy went "uhh, hold a sec, I'll get you to tier 2" tier 2 "good question, i need to ask network and provisioning" the eventual answer was yes they will work.
The only problem i can see, is from what i understand, moto mods are hit and miss with custom roms, so stock will be fine, custom depends.
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I just bought the moto z4 on Verizon. I was surprised to find that the allow bootloader access wasn't blocked or removed from the developer menu and it was already switched on.
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That's a negative here on my end. Verizon z4 and everything was good until I entered the code from fastboot into the field on the moto website; says "your device cannot be unlocked". love verizon.
I have a brand new Z4 XT1980-3 that I just unlocked (bootloader unlock). The only problem with this model is that WiFi calling and Video calling are not possible on Verizon. Apparently they don't support those features on the XT1980-3. Those features are only available on the Verizon version (XT1980-4). So now that I'm bootloader unlocked, can I just flash the XT1980-4 firmware on the phone? Is that even possible? And will it enable the advanced calling features? I already downloaded the May 2019 firmware from here: https://www.getdroidtips.com/motoro...e-and-firmware-collections-back-to-stock-rom/
Just want to make sure it's safe to flash, and if it will in fact enable WiFi and video calling on the Verizon network. Thanks!
Got it figured out. Enjoy:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z4/help/verizon-volte-wi-fi-calling-support-t3940664
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Got it figured out. Enjoy:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z4/help/verizon-volte-wi-fi-calling-support-t3940664
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Can't wait to see it working
Is there any threads on possibly unlocking One plus 9 from T-Mobile?
I've already written a guide...
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I've already written a guide...
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Where at?
whishey said:
Where at?
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How To: Unlock the T-Mobile Bootloader
Hello all, this is a quick and simple guide to unlocking your T-Mobile locked bootloader. Just a reminder: unlocking the bootloader will wipe your data. The instructions here will apply to all T-Mobile OnePlus devices. Unlock your SIM. Some...
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Can you unlock mine? Willing to donate if possible
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I've already written a guide...
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Hi, yes unlock but unlock the bootloader. How can I unlock the sim ?
because even though i changed and i read that changing to a global version was not going to unlock the sim.
in the same way now my oneplus 9 tmobile. It is in global version but with the network locked problem.
Gabiru05 said:
Hi, yes unlock but unlock the bootloader. How can I unlock the sim ?
because even though i changed and i read that changing to a global version was not going to unlock the sim.
in the same way now my oneplus 9 tmobile. It is in global version but with the network locked problem.
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How To: Unlock the T-Mobile Bootloader
Hello all, this is a quick and simple guide to unlocking your T-Mobile locked bootloader. Just a reminder: unlocking the bootloader will wipe your data. The instructions here will apply to all T-Mobile OnePlus devices. Unlock your SIM. Some...
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Specifically:
Unlock your SIM. Some options here
Finding a sympathetic rep to unlock your device. I used the I'm a developer and need the device unlocked for work purposes and took 2 agents before I got mine unlocked.
Finding an awesome XDAer who has the capability to do it, such as https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ng-service-oneplus-samsung-google-lg.4231597/ (never used this service, just an example but he seems active and still unlocking)
Paying a (trusted) 3rd party service. I never used them, YMMV
T-Mobile's official policy of waiting 40 days and paying off any balance on an EIP.
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Hi Do you have a msn tool for the OnePlus 9 Le2117? I used your guide for my OnePlus 8t.