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Chinese version?

Has dual SIM.
I'm tempted to buy and import to UK. However, not sure:
1) If Wifi calling works (I've seen online some short-codes to input into dialler). Anyone know if these work (specifically 3 UK)
2) Situation re. network. Obviously I'm pretty sure 4g will be OK but not sure on 5g (Currently 3 UK and Virgin UK/EE/Vodafone)
Any suggestions?

BlueMeany68 said:
Has dual SIM.
I'm tempted to buy and import to UK. However, not sure:
1) If Wifi calling works (I've seen online some short-codes to input into dialler). Anyone know if these work (specifically 3 UK)
2) Situation re. network. Obviously I'm pretty sure 4g will be OK but not sure on 5g (Currently 3 UK and Virgin UK/EE/Vodafone)
Any suggestions?
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I'm using on Vodafone not the best network, LTE would be more of a problem with no band 20, 5g would be fine, I haven't been to 5g area to test other people in Europe have no problems with 5g

Xioami explained that the china modem and bands are quite different from Europe. With 4G you won't have B20 band and 5G antenna works differently (that's why in europe it's not dual sim).

deus_ex_yue said:
Xioami explained that the china modem and bands are quite different from Europe. With 4G you won't have B20 band and 5G antenna works differently (that's why in europe it's not dual sim).
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Well some one in Europe says Chinese version 5g working perfectly they posted on telegram group.

james1089 said:
Well some one in Europe says Chinese version 5g working perfectly they posted on telegram group.
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I have had china version to test before the global.
5G in Italy didn't work very good in the china Mi 10 pro. I mean that the global version has a 25% more speed.

deus_ex_yue said:
I have had china version to test before the global.
5G in Italy didn't work very good in the china Mi 10 pro. I mean that the global version has a 25% more speed.
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Is that even possible, or lockdown and heavy usage at the time of testing, side by side?

My Chinese version works fine on 5G in UK. Not sure about Italy but in UK we only use N78 5G band and the mi 10 Chinese version has that and several other bands so I'm not sure what you mean by a 25% difference in speed?

anyone in Israel got 5G on n9860?

5G is new there. I believe the bands are the same as Europe.

I am planning to buy it , from where you will get it ?

hady27 said:
I am planning to buy it , from where you will get it ?
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I got it in the US off ebay

hady27 said:
I am planning to buy it , from where you will get it ?
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I am from Israel and could not get 5 g

When buying snapdragon version that is sold in US only then the 5G may not support right BAND Israel is using. That's why you need to go for exynos that is probably one that is being sold in Israel stores and that has right BAND type for 5G to work.
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Jake.S said:
When buying snapdragon version that is sold in US only then the 5G may not support right BAND Israel is using. That's why you need to go for exynos that is probably one that is being sold in Israel stores and that has right BAND type for 5G to work.
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Correct except the n9860 has the European 5G bands, not US. Plus the note 20 ultra model sold on Israel is the F and does not have 5G

ekerbuddyeker said:
Correct except the n9860 has the European 5G bands, not US. Plus the note 20 ultra model sold on Israel is the F and does not have 5G
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Mine is the European model which is N986B with exynos. What i understood is that the N9860 is US version and has not got European band. Since people who bought it sweden cannot get 5G in Europe because it's missing 5G band that europe is using.
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Jake.S said:
Mine is the European model which is N986B with exynos. What i understood is that the N9860 is US version and has not got European band. Since people who bought it sweden cannot get 5G in Europe because it's missing 5G band that europe is using.
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N9860 is HK and China. You are referring to n986U.

ekerbuddyeker said:
N9860 is HK and China. You are referring to n986U.
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Well i was told N9860 is US one not N986U. But w.e
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ohad201 said:
I am from Israel and could not get 5 g
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which phone version do you have ? us or HK/china ?

I have N9860 hong Kong. It should have the right 5g bands for europe/Israel too

N9860 from HK
N9860 from Wondamobile (HK-based) supports European band frequencies, including for 5G, and has the superior Snapdragon 865+ processor.

i just got the HK version and im with HOTMOBILE, im switching to partner sunday, well see if its available they said it should work in beersheva, well see.

I'm using an N9860 (TGY) from Hong Kong in the UK. 5G works only with some providers, but not all.....
- Three - definitely works
- Vodafone - reported to work - I've seen the 5G notification
- EE - definitely DOES NOT WORK
- O2 - insufficient data.
Apparently 5G on EE used to work with early firmware, but an update broke it. Even when it did work the SIM had to be in slot 2 and there could be no active SIM in slot 1.
The summary of all this is that having support for the correct 5G band should not be taken to mean that 5G will work. There is more to it involved with configuration files for compatible operation. Unfortunately this stuff is beyond my expertise. Here is a link....
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1324491253845762049

Mooatreides said:
i just got the HK version and im with HOTMOBILE, im switching to partner sunday, well see if its available they said it should work in beersheva, well see.
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Thanks. Definitely interested to hear

ekerbuddyeker said:
Thanks. Definitely interested to hear
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on HOT my volte never worked and they akways gave me problems. I got the Partner sims yesterday for my note 20 ultra and my girls.note 10+, i had to call them to activate volte and vowifi but it works.
They said theres one 5G antenna here in B7 and i should be connected soon but i dont know if they said it stam or not, ill wait and see.

Mooatreides said:
on HOT my volte never worked and they akways gave me problems. I got the Partner sims yesterday for my note 20 ultra and my girls.note 10+, i had to call them to activate volte and vowifi but it works.
They said theres one 5G antenna here in B7 and i should be connected soon but i dont know if they said it stam or not, ill wait and see.
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Interestef to hear...Hopefully not stam...But you think it should work as the n9860 has the right 5G bands?

ekerbuddyeker said:
Interestef to hear...Hopefully not stam...But you think it should work as the n9860 has the right 5G bands?
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i hope it will work!! if not maybe with root and changing stuff.

Partner said its metter of time, they just wait untill Samsung connect exectly this model in Israel.

Is there a way to make the 5G of my US variant Note 20 Ultra to work in another country?

I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra 5G bought from the US (SM-N986U1) and I am currently in the Philippines. Is there any way I can make the 5G work here? If currently there is no way, would you think there will be in the near future?

Depends if the 5g bands are the same in both countries (and operators), you'd need to check that.
You could try the whitelisting method used on the Hong Kong variants which allows 5g use in Europe. Google it.

This is interesting part. I've been thinking about this not long time ago. My idea is as HK variant has same chipset etc, except storage with USA variant. So I believe it possible in some way to enable hidden or locked 5G bands on USA variant.

Not possible make to work because it do not support bands used bands and combinations used in Philippines: https://cacombos.com/device/SM-N986U

kradcliffe said:
Depends if the 5g bands are the same in both countries (and operators), you'd need to check that.
You could try the whitelisting method used on the Hong Kong variants which allows 5g use in Europe. Google it.
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Nettwerk said:
This is interesting part. I've been thinking about this not long time ago. My idea is as HK variant has same chipset etc, except storage with USA variant. So I believe it possible in some way to enable hidden or locked 5G bands on USA variant.
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olkitu said:
Not possible make to work because it do not support bands used bands and combinations used in Philippines: https://cacombos.com/device/SM-N986U
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Thanks for the replies. I already sold my US variant and bought a brand new HK version. So far benefitting with the dual sim.

reidleingod said:
Thanks for the replies. I already sold my US variant and bought a brand new HK version. So far benefitting with the dual sim.
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hi mate just for knowing, i had this idea to import myself a broken note 20 ultra 5g US variant, you said that the 5G is not working. Did the 4g,3g or 2g worked for you? im from italy and i found on ebay a good priced phone, but now im scared that the network will not work for me. i found the philippines band chart with all the frequencies and bands. like in italy, only one/two of them are supported and i would like to know if the network was working.

Ricks[DEV] said:
hi mate just for knowing, i had this idea to import myself a broken note 20 ultra 5g US variant, you said that the 5G is not working. Did the 4g,3g or 2g worked for you? im from italy and i found on ebay a good priced phone, but now im scared that the network will not work for me. i found the philippines band chart with all the frequencies and bands. like in italy, only one/two of them are supported and i would like to know if the network was working.
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Hey there. Yes. My former Note 20 Ultra 5G US variant's 4G is working in the Philippines.
I recommend you get also the Hong Kong (Snapdragon) variant instead, as I have read somewhere that HK variant's 5G could work in the UK.

reidleingod said:
Thanks for the replies. I already sold my US variant and bought a brand new HK version. So far benefitting with the dual sim.
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Well this answers my question. I recently bought a US version note 20 ultra 5g and having trouble activating the 5g on my phone which seems to be impossible. I should have bought a snapdragon hk version instead then. This is very frustrating cause I'm really enjoying the benefits of a Note phone.

Question The S9080 Variant

So, I was planning to order an S22 Ultra (US here) but I wanted to get a rootable version. The 0 version (Hong Kong) of Samsung phones is usually rootable + bootloader unlockable, plus it has a Snapdragon, but I was wondering if it of was any use under Verizon.
Does anyone else have any experience under Verizon using the S9080 or any of the Hong Kong variant phones? Cellular capabilities? Aggregation? VoLTE?

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So, I was planning to order an S22 Ultra (US here) but I wanted to get a rootable version. The 0 version (Hong Kong) of Samsung phones is usually rootable + bootloader unlockable, plus it has a Snapdragon, but I was wondering if it of was any use under Verizon.
Does anyone else have any experience under Verizon using the S9080 or any of the Hong Kong variant phones? Cellular capabilities? Aggregation? VoLTE?
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I have the S21 Ultra Hong Kong device. It works on Verizon but no 5G or Carrier Aggregation. You’ll likely get 4G LTE and WiFi Calling. Guessing the HK S22 Ultra will as well.

varcor said:
I have the S21 Ultra Hong Kong device. It works on Verizon but no 5G or Carrier Aggregation. You’ll likely get 4G LTE and WiFi Calling. Guessing the HK S22 Ultra will as well.
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Isn't the device 5G? Why doesn't it work? Isn't the 5G a universal thing?

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Isn't the device 5G? Why doesn't it work? Isn't the 5G a universal thing?
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No, it's not universal, you can ask Verizon if they can provision it but likely they can't. This may have changed with the S22 Ultra but I doubt it.

Question TGY or BRI for use on O2UK S9080?

Hey guys
Long time since I've posted on here!
I've just upgraded from my trusty 8GB/512GB Note9 N960F/DS to a 12GB/512GB S22 Ultra S9080/DS (SD) on TGY (from techinthebasket).
The phone is currently on TGY CSC but I'm wondering if anyone knows whether BRI would be better for use in the UK, specifically on O2UK?
I can see 5G is enabled, and there is 5G in my area (my wife can get it on her iPhone 12 Pro on Sky, which is hosted by O2) but I can't seem to pick up 5G on my S22. I know the 9080 only has the N78 band for O2 so maybe that's the issue - if there's only the lower band 5G in my area...
Just wondering if anyone has any experience regarding TGY vs BRI in the UK?
Thanks

p.dixon0 said:
Hey guys
Long time since I've posted on here!
I've just upgraded from my trusty 8GB/512GB Note9 N960F/DS to a 12GB/512GB S22 Ultra S9080/DS (SD) on TGY (from techinthebasket).
The phone is currently on TGY CSC but I'm wondering if anyone knows whether BRI would be better for use in the UK, specifically on O2UK?
I can see 5G is enabled, and there is 5G in my area (my wife can get it on her iPhone 12 Pro on Sky, which is hosted by O2) but I can't seem to pick up 5G on my S22. I know the 9080 only has the N78 band for O2 so maybe that's the issue - if there's only the lower band 5G in my area...
Just wondering if anyone has any experience regarding TGY vs BRI in the UK?
Thanks
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I live in Sweden and the net configuration in Sweden and the UK are all almost the same. The TGY or BRI are the same phone just different SW customization, but you will not notice any difference at all.
The 4G support is very good but not 5G, the 5G band support is limited.
If you want to buy a better model, look for "SM-S908E" model. You can find it from Etoren https://eu.etoren.com/products/sams...ual-sim-sm-s908e-256gb-phantom-white-12gb-ram
I don't recommend BRI (Taiwan) or TGY (Hong Kong) if you want to take advantage of 5G. Also the SM-S908E has e-Sim in addition.

nightoooo said:
I live in Sweden and the net configuration in Sweden and the UK are all almost the same. The TGY or BRI are the same phone just different SW customization, but you will not notice any difference at all.
The 4G support is very good but not 5G, the 5G band support is limited.
If you want to buy a better model, look for "SM-S908E" model. You can find it from Etoren https://eu.etoren.com/products/sams...ual-sim-sm-s908e-256gb-phantom-white-12gb-ram
I don't recommend BRI (Taiwan) or TGY (Hong Kong) if you want to take advantage of 5G. Also the SM-S908E has e-Sim in addition.
p.dixon0 said:
Hey guys
Long time since I've posted on here!
I've just upgraded from my trusty 8GB/512GB Note9 N960F/DS to a 12GB/512GB S22 Ultra S9080/DS (SD) on TGY (from techinthebasket).
The phone is currently on TGY CSC but I'm wondering if anyone knows whether BRI would be better for use in the UK, specifically on O2UK?
I can see 5G is enabled, and there is 5G in my area (my wife can get it on her iPhone 12 Pro on Sky, which is hosted by O2) but I can't seem to pick up 5G on my S22. I know the 9080 only has the N78 band for O2 so maybe that's the issue - if there's only the lower band 5G in my area...
Just wondering if anyone has any experience regarding TGY vs BRI in the UK?
Thanks
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Unfortunately the only option for 5G in the UK is with a Exynos variant. Even though your device reflects 5G is enabled and it has the corresponding 5G Band, it's not going to connect. Snapdragon is a much better choice even though you'll sacrifice 5G and Carrier Aggregation and of the 3 SM-9080 variants Hong Kong TGY is your best option.
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Thanks for your replies guys, I really appreciate it!
Can I ask, Carrier Aggregation, that's 4G+ isn't it? If so, it's getting 4G+ OK - did a few speed tests earlier and was getting 117Mbs download speeds... Does that should about right for CA? (It's faster than I saw with the Note9 on 4G+ on the same network anyway)

p.dixon0 said:
Thanks for your replies guys, I really appreciate it!
Can I ask, Carrier Aggregation, that's 4G+ isn't it? If so, it's getting 4G+ OK - did a few speed tests earlier and was getting 117Mbs download speeds... Does that should about right for CA? (It's faster than I saw with the Note9 on 4G+ on the same network anyway)
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No, Carrier Aggregation is different than 4G+ but if you're getting 117 MBs that's enough for most situations, right? Carrier aggregation is used in LTE-Advanced in order to increase the bandwidth, and thereby increase the bitrate. I can't see rolling the dice on a Exynos variant just to have 5G. And it is a roll of the dice. Samsung's Quality Control is asleep at the wheel.

Something many don't realize, wafer yeild in Samsung's Foundries for the Exynos SoC was a dreadful 30% but it's Snapdragon yeild wasn't much better at 35%. If I were to consider an S22 Ultra it would be after Qualcomm moved it's production to TSMC's Taiwan Foundry in June or July. That will mark Qualcomm's next gen chipset. But even then problems could still nag the device since the marriage between Android 12 and OneUI 4.1 has to date been a messy affair.

I imported a Samsung Galaxy Note²⁰ Ultra from Hong Kong to use on the UK Network.
It was a TGY variant and worked flawlessly.

BandOfBrothers1 said:
I imported a Samsung Galaxy Note²⁰ Ultra from Hong Kong to use on the UK Network.
It was a TGY variant and worked flawlessly.
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I think I read a post from you on the same subject on the Samsung forums before I picked up this phone! That's actually the reason I thought I'd go ahead and get a TGY one!

Hi.
Yes I've discussed this on the Samsung Eu forums too.

Just an update in case anyone is interested - I did a speed test (OOKLA Speedtest) comparison via the browser on both my S9080 TGY (12GB/512GB) showing 4G+ on O2UK and my wife's iPhone 12 Pro showing 5G on Sky (runs on the O2UK network) from the same location last night.
My phone got a maximum of 145.7mbs download on 4G+, her iPhone hit a maximum of 53mbs on 5G in the same location. Of course, they could have been connected to different cell towers etc.

The Hong Kong TGY variant is the closest you'll find to a pure android experience on a Samsung device. Less bloatware, best overall network connectivity with one exception. Samsung should modify it's 5G capabilities so it will work on as many networks as possible. Another improvement would allow system apps to be removed or at least disabled, which will likely never happen. Those two modifications would be a huge step forward.

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The Hong Kong TGY variant is the closest you'll find to a pure android experience on a Samsung device. Less bloatware, best overall network connectivity with one exception. Samsung should modify it's 5G capabilities so it will work on as many networks as possible. Another improvement would allow system apps to be removed or at least disabled, which will likely never happen. Those two modifications would be a huge step forward.
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Samsung do this on purpose to cripple devices and stop people from different regions buying the same product. Similarly with their warranties, its only valid and recognized for the country that the device was intended for. A pure anti consumer move by Samsung. Opposite of the evil Apple, whereby their iPhones don't have bands or CA crippled nor do they deny warranty for customers of other regions.

Just a quick update on this, I've just 'upgraded' my O2UK SIM only tariff to the same 150GB deal but told them my device is 5G enabled this time (I was on a Note9 previously). Anyway, tariff change is completed and I now have 5G (Can also see that HD Voice over 4G is active too)