Question Phone apps blocked - Samsung Galaxy Tab S7 FE

Bummed my Tab S7 FE unable to use Textra app and others for lack of a phone. Mac and PC have no phone but can use comm apps. Hope there will be fix.

S7 FE has a phone. I'm using it for data only but do get calls from time to time from some random marketing pests.
And if by textra, you mean messaging app, it works but only in portrait.

I'm able to use my Textra app, first setting it up with my Google Voice number.
As to a way forward to uncover the block to the regular phone app, I don't have that information yet, but the ability to run Textra is in itself a small tease...

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[Q] Default SMS always sets itself

I've been having an issue since the 4.4.1 update. I primarily use Textra for SMS/MMS and it's set as the default. However, I'm on a limited texting plan and use Google Voice for a few of the people I text with most frequently.
I have direct message shortcuts on my homepage for my main contacts. I used to (before the 4.4.1 update) be able to click them and get prompted for what program to use, Textra, Google Voice, anything else. Now, it always defaults to Textra.
I can go clear the defaults in Settings-Apps-Textra-Clear Defaults and it works normally for a few minutes. However, it always seems to set Textra back as the default SMS client eventually.
I'm trying to figure out a way to let my direct message shortcuts work again. I've factory reset and set up just enough to let me test again (Textra, Google Voice and a direct message shortcut), but it still does the same thing. I've tried with other SMS clients (8SMS, Hangouts) and the behavior is the same.
Can anyone think of a way to fix this? Is there a way to automate the Textra-Clear Defaults? Is there a way to create a Google Voice direct message shortcut? A way to fix Kit Kat so that I can use whatever texting app I want?
I'm running rooted stock so root solutions are fine. Would I have better luck with CM or something based off of it?
Thanks for any feedback!

Hangouts SMS (Google Voice)

As some of you know Android Wear doesn't allow you to send SMS via Google Voice. I have a working solution and wanted to know if anyone would actually use it. The solution however requires Tasker and AutoWear to get the command from the watch and act on it. This is also a non-root solution. Last this will of course be open source.
Do you mean initiate a new Hangout with someone (a) or respond to an SMS via Google Voice (b)?
A. If you wish to send a Google Voice SMS through Hangouts, you should be able to use the "Send text to Sam Hey, how's it going?" voice command. If Hangouts is set as your phone's SMS app on your phone and it is setup to default to your GV #, that should work. If you wish to send a new hangout chat (non-SMS) through Hangouts, I think you're SOL or stuck with a very hacky Tasker/AutoWear situation.
B. You are able to respond to someone from hangouts. Hangouts will default to the method of contact that you received the prompting message in.
iHelp101 said:
As some of you know Android Wear doesn't allow you to send SMS via Google Voice. I have a working solution and wanted to know if anyone would actually use it. The solution however requires Tasker and AutoWear to get the command from the watch and act on it. This is also a non-root solution. Last this will of course be open source.
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I'd like to know how you get this to work. What the previous poster said doesn't work for me as it still sends the texts from my real number even though i've told it to send texts from my google voice #.
iHelp101 said:
As some of you know Android Wear doesn't allow you to send SMS via Google Voice. I have a working solution and wanted to know if anyone would actually use it. The solution however requires Tasker and AutoWear to get the command from the watch and act on it. This is also a non-root solution. Last this will of course be open source.
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Please share ..!
I just got my Moto 360 this past week and the fact GV/Hangouts is so horribly "unsupported" is a major turn off since being able to to send texts via GV via the watch was going to be a big use case. (But as I've learned through use and bunches of Google searches it's not that simple.)
I'm about to head off on my own Tasker+AutoWear solution but I only "kind of" know how to use Tasker properly and haven't used AutoWear at all so if you already have something that works I'd love to see it.
iHelp101 said:
As some of you know Android Wear doesn't allow you to send SMS via Google Voice. I have a working solution and wanted to know if anyone would actually use it. The solution however requires Tasker and AutoWear to get the command from the watch and act on it. This is also a non-root solution. Last this will of course be open source.
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I'm Interested in this,, any ideas about incoming google voice call notifications?
Hangout SMS
I must appreciate for your fantabulous work on creating app that allows send hangout sms by voice.
Tried Quick for Wear?
I think you should be able to use Quick for Wear to send Hangout messages. And as a bonus, you have the option of using voice, or one of their built in keyboards, or FlickKey for Wear - which also lets you edit voice messages with a keyboard if you use voice through it.
Yes please share!
Quick for Wear
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Quick for Wear: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.michy.quickforwear
Hi, I really would use and appreciate this feature. I only use GV for sms over Hangouts. Even when using send text via the phone's "okay Google" send text feature, it defaults to sending a hangouts sms (from my real cell#) instead of my gv #. It drives my nuts. Is there anyway to TWEAK a setting on the office for okay Google?. So that Okay Google command, sends all sms by default using the GV number. This may be the solution...
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monter_man said:
Hi, I really would use and appreciate this feature. I only use GV for sms over Hangouts. Even when using send text via the phone's "okay Google" send text feature, it defaults to sending a hangouts sms (from my real cell#) instead of my gv #. It drives my nuts. Is there anyway to TWEAK a setting on the office for okay Google?. So that Okay Google command, sends all sms by default using the GV number. This may be the solution...
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This is because when you use the voice commands to send a message, it is never touching the default SMS app (in this case, Hangouts). Rather, it composes the whole thing and even sends from its own user interface. Up until a recent update to Hangouts, this is how it worked system-wide. In other words, clicking send msg from the dialer or contacts screen, for example, would open hangouts as the sms app (if set to be the default for sms), but always start out as sending from the carrier instead of GV. We could change the setting in Hangouts to always start messages with the GV account by default, but that only helped when opening and composing a new message in hangouts. Initiating a text anywhere in else in the OS, for some reason made Hangouts go back to the carrier. My guess is that they always intended GV to be a companion to the carrier, but not actually replace it. For example, if you wanted to have a private number for personal use and another more public number to give out, this would make sense.
I kept submitted bug reports about this behavior (that Hangouts should respect your default account to send from), and I know other people as well. It seems they finally got the memo and made that change a few months ago I think, and the current version of Hangouts finally respects your SMS account of choice when initiating a new msg from anywhere.
But using "OK GOOGLE" does not. Because it uses its own interface and therefore never touches your default SMS app. I'm guessing the solution proposed above uses Tasker to intercept the command, copy the transcribed message, then open a Hangouts message to paste it in. I really wish Google would issue a proper fix for this so that those of us who wish to use GV as our seamless phone number could be a globally supported function of the OS. I honestly got excited that the new GV app finally supports MMS and group texts without requiring hangouts, but sadly you still can't set GV to be the default messaging app. Its like, they almost get what we want to do, but aren't quite ready to embrace it yet. So I wouldn't hold me breathe for the compose via voice feature to be rolled out in an official fix so soon.
I'm a little confused about how Hangouts works on AW. I'm specifically interested in the functionality on an LTE watch when it's not connected to a phone.
Can Hangouts messages be received and responded to from a watch in standalone mode? Is it possible to initiate a message from Hangouts, preserving the GV caller id?
I have a Gear S3 and can receive and respond to Hangouts messages, but not initiate them. I was hoping that AW watches would handle this better.
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I'm a little confused about how Hangouts works on AW. I'm specifically interested in the functionality on an LTE watch when it's not connected to a phone.
Can Hangouts messages be received and responded to from a watch in standalone mode? Is it possible to initiate a message from Hangouts, preserving the GV caller id?
I have a Gear S3 and can receive and respond to Hangouts messages, but not initiate them. I was hoping that AW watches would handle this better.
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So before Android Wear 2.0 was released, you'd get notifications that you could respond to but not necessarily do much more than that - sounds a lot like your setup on the S3. Now, you have fully functioning apps that are separate from your phone. I don't use Google Voice, but the Hangouts app lets you see all your conversations including media. Of course, you can initiate a new message in any of those conversations (without needing a notification to reply to). But, I don't see an option to start a new conversation from the watch app. Otherwise, you have full functionality. This is how most apps will work once devs release a version to the Play Store on Android Wear watches.
In short, get an Android Wear watch with a sim card and you can leave your phone at home without losing connectivity.

You gotta help me!

I've got an annoying texter, and want to block their number on my Note 5. Where is the setting for that? Thank you in advance!
Truecaller had been great for me so far for blocking numbers and they released a messenger that lets you block them as well.
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Thanks. I was thinking there should already be a setting in the stock messages app. I guess it was Chomp SMS that I was using before that worked really well.
Yea that works too. Verizon can block specific numbers but it only stays blocked for 3 months then it drops off.
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If you open the phone/dailer app and go to settings there is an option to block calls there (I'm not sure if this will work for text messages, though).
I also noticed there is an option to reply with a text message when a call is blocked. Could be useful if you block calls during vacation or a meeting.
The default messaging app leaves options to be desired for sure, but for a stock app it's actually pretty decent from my previous experiences.
I usually used Handcent on all my phones, but I find the stock app seems pretty nice and generally more stable than third party message apps.

Messaging app problems

Have been using Textra as a messaging app for years. With new Pixel 4a I discovered I was not receiving all messages sent from others to me using Textra. Out of curiosity I enabled google's messaging app and suddenly all of my messages came through. Can anyone enlighten me as to why this might be?
I personally don't care for google's philosophy and don't want a "Chat" app. Just want to send and receive messages with occasional pix like I have been doing for years.
When you installed Textra, Android should have prompted you if you want textra to be your new default sms/text messaging app. If not, try uninstalling it and re-enable google messaging, then reinstall textra.
If that still doesn't work then maybe this might...
I think google's built-in messaging has it's "chat" features enabled by default, which I think configure your cell companies network for it in a particular way ("Advanced messaging mode").
So, after uninstalling textra and re-enabling google's messaging, try to then go into google's messaging app settings and disable all "chat" features - so what you are trying to do it configure it as a "simple" text messaging app, which would then tell your cell phone companies network to switch to "simple" mode.
So, now when you install textra and replace google's messaging app, your network will then hopefully work 100% with textra in the "simple" mode.
I think what might be happening is that when your originally replaced google's app with textra, textra didn't know how to reconfigure your cell phone companies network back to the "simple" mode.
JohnC said:
When you installed Textra, Android should have prompted you if you want textra to be your new default sms/text messaging app. If not, try uninstalling it and re-enable google messaging, then reinstall textra.
If that still doesn't work then maybe this might...
I think google's built-in messaging has it's "chat" features enabled by default, which I think configure your cell companies network for it in a particular way ("Advanced messaging mode").
So, after uninstalling textra and re-enabling google's messaging, try to then go into google's messaging app settings and disable all "chat" features - so what you are trying to do it configure it as a "simple" text messaging app, which would then tell your cell phone companies network to switch to "simple" mode.
So, now when you install textra and replace google's messaging app, your network will then hopefully work 100% with textra in the "simple" mode.
I think what might be happening is that when your originally replaced google's app with textra, textra didn't know how to reconfigure your cell phone companies network back to the "simple" mode.
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Thanks John. I did as you suggested including multiple reboots while uninstalling and reinstalling, and it now seems to work as I want it to.
Thanks for your assistance.
If anyone is still having issues with not receiving text messages on time, I suggest going to Settings>System>Advanced>Reset Options>Reset WiFi, mobile, & Bluetooth. Follow through to completion with on-screen commands and this may do the trick to settling your texting issues with the Pixel 4a.
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Question Messages on watch

Anyone got any tips on getting message notifications on the GW4? I am using it with a Pixel 4a5g. I currently have loaded the updated Google messages app on phone and watch. I have enabled notifications everywhere I can find for the app. I can open the watch app and read all my messages, but I can't get any watch notifications. On my GWA2, using Next, I was able to get the notifications and the message would pop up on my watch and let me read it. On the GW4 I have to open the app to read it. I am also open to any other messaging apps that others have found that work.
Update, I did get Next SMS to work, but I wonder if anyone has had any luck with VZW messages or Google messages?
You have to make Google Messages to the default text message app on phone to get notifications from it, and you can only use Google Messages for writing SMS after that.
The first thing I did was make Google Messages the default SMS... as a matter of fact, you can't even bring it up on the phone unless you do that. I know Google is just starting to roll out a new version of messages for using with watches, I don't know how to tell if I have that version or what that version number is, so I guess I will use Next for awhile longer and see.
This feels like a Gear app permissions issue. Check that the gear app on your Phone has permissions to read messages. Also it might be under device admin setting or something like that
I assume you mean the Galaxy Wear app, it does have SMS permissions enabled (actually all permissions enabled).
Note, as I said above, it works like a champ with Next SMS, so I think everything is enabled that needs to be. The difference would have to be with the messaging app itself.
You can also check settings on the watch itself. Settings/Applications/Permissions then scroll to Messages and allow everything one by one.

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