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Update: One click root has been using this "simple" method since version 2.2.7. If you're rooting your phone for the first time, please try that first. Consider this thread to be purely informational for those who want step-by-step details of how the process works.
I've been suspicious of the joeykrim root method since it was first posted at SDX. I finally got my Epic yesterday and confirmed that is, indeed unnecessary. I don't fault joeykrim though, he ported the working root method from the Moment to the Epic without actually having access to an Epic himself.
Anyways, the joeykrim root method is unnecessarilly complex becuase it works around an RFS permissions bug which loses the setuid bit on the Moment. It appears the Galaxy S phones have this bug fixed, which is why the root methods on the I9000, Vibrant, Captivate, Fascinate, etc., are much simpler.
So, for the simple root:
First, make sure joeykrim root is not installed.
Upgrade to DI18 (not strictly necessary, but you'll want to do it).
Setup a working adb from the Android SDK and whatever drivers are necessary for your platform.
Download rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin from the C skills blog (link removed due to my newbieness) or from any of the one-click root packages.
Download su-2.3.6.1-ef-signed.zip and extract "system/bin/su" and "system/app/Superuser.apk" to a temporary directory you'll be working from.
Enable USB debugging on your phone and connect it to your computer.
Now, open a command prompt/shell on your computer and cd to the appropriate temporary directory. Run:
Code:
adb push rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin /data/local/tmp
adb shell chmod 755 /data/local/tmp/rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin
adb shell /data/local/tmp/rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin
and confirm you have a working root shell. Then continue with:
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adb push su /system/xbin
adb shell chmod 4755 /system/xbin/su
adb install Superuser.apk
That's it! You should have a working root via su & the Superuser package. At least, I did.
Note that the preceeding steps installs Superuser.apk to /data, which is what I prefer to do. This means if you do a "Factory data reset" su will be temporarilly broken until you reinstall the Superuser.apk package. Since installing the package itself doesn't require root, this is easily done after a /data reset.
Also note that I did not perform a /system remount-rw anywhere. At least on my Epic, /system appears to always be mounted read-write so it's an unnecessary step. It's actually the "joeykrim-root.sh" script that remounts /system read-only during the boot process, which is why folks who don't use root kernels have run into this problem before. I'm not sure why joeykrim's script does that, I guess he probably assumed /system is mounted read-only by default. There's arguments that /system should be read-only, but I didn't touch it in case some Samsung stuff depends on it being read-write.
Finally, if you're already rooted via joeykrim or are running a root kernel, there's nothing really to be gained by doing this. I'm just throwing this out there as I perfer to make the minimum invasive changes possible to obtain root.
Wow, that was really informative. To check for Super user you:
Type: adb shell
then type: SU
You should get a # sign if you have root. Correct?
In the original Noobln post method would the Epic keep root even after a wipe therefore not needing to re-apply the superuser apk again? That might be a reason why folks would want to go the more invasive route (considering rooters seems to change ROMS fairly often which requires wipes sometimes). Either way, keeping a copy of the apk file on your SD card is no big deal.
mkasick said:
Also note that I did not perform a /system remount-rw anywhere. At least on my Epic, /system appears to always be mounted read-write so it's an unnecessary step. It's actually the "joeykrim-root.sh" script that remounts /system read-only during the boot process, which is why folks who don't use root kernels have run into this problem before. I'm not sure why joeykrim's script does that, I guess he probably assumed /system is mounted read-only by default. There's arguments that /system should be read-only, but I didn't touch it in case some Samsung stuff depends on it being read-write.
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This explains a lot of problems! thanks
EDIT- another noob question- why do you prefer to have superuser installed to /system/data- why not put it in /system/app? Also if I want to install busybox where is the best location to put it?
ZenInsight said:
Wow, that was really informative. To check for Super user you:
Type: adb shell
then type: SU
You should get a # sign if you have root. Correct?
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Once you run rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin, you should get a root-shell automatically every time you run "adb shell" after until you reboot the phone. Yes, you can tell it's a root shell since it uses the "#" prompt. This is the important part to check, since if the exploit doesn't work, you'll have to run it again. But I haven't seen it not work.
After su is installed and you reboot, your steps are correct: run "adb shell", run "su", then you'll be prompted on the phone scren to authorize access and once you allow it you'll end up with a "#" prompt.
ZenInsight said:
In the original Noobln post method would the Epic keep root even after a wipe therefore not needing to re-apply the superuser apk again?
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noobnl installs Superuser.apk to /system, you can do that here too. Just replace the "adb install Superuser.apk" step with "adb push Superuser.apk /system/app". It's independent of the joeykrim scripts.
With my captivate we have many update.zip root methods to choose from. Any chance this will be coming to the epic? Have a friend with an epic and command lines would be too much and one click didn't work.
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jimmyz said:
why do you prefer to have superuser installed to /system/data- why not put it in /system/app?
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I prefer to keep consistent with the idea that user-installed applications go in /data, and stock-installed-and-unmodified applications remain in /system/app. This way, upgrading Superuser.apk doesn't require a root-shell/root-explorer, you can remove it or upgrade it the way you do with any user installed application--adb install, side-loading via an sdcard, or downloading it from the market.
Plus, in general I prefer to keep my /system as untouched as possible. For example, I don't remove stock apps either. The "su" binary has to be installed in /system to persist after a /data wipe, and busybox is best installed to /system so it's in PATH (haven't looked into modifying the default PATH yet). Otherwise I try to keep /system alone.
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Also if I want to install busybox where is the best location to put it?
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Android's default PATH provides four places for busybox to be installed: /sbin, /system/bin, /system/sbin, and /system/xbin. /sbin is part of the initramfs, in other words it's controlled by the kernel you're running. You can install busybox to any of the three /system/*bin directories, but I prefer /system/xbin.
In the traditional Unix conventions, "/usr/bin" is for user-runnable stock-installed programs, and "/usr/sbin" is for root-requiring (superuser-runnable) stock-installed programs. "xbin" isn't part of the standard convention, but I'd guess it's intended for "extra binaries" that are not part of the stock installation (much like /usr/local/bin), thus it seems like an appropriate location for a user-added "su" and "busybox" programs.
The second reason is that "xbin" is relatively empty, so if you want to create the applet symlinks (i.e., so that you can call "cp" instead of "buybox cp") it won't overwrite the stock toolbox symlinks. Also, since "xbin" is last on the default PATH, any programs provided by both toolbox and busybox will default to the toolbox version--which would be important for stock system scripts that might run into compatibility issues if they were to use the busybox versions instead.
To install busybox, grab a copy of the binary from somewhere (one click packages, a copy of stericson.busybox.apk, etc.). Then, once rooted run:
Code:
adb push busybox /data/local/tmp
adb shell
su # Authorize on phone screen
cat /data/local/tmp/busybox > /system/xbin/busybox
chown root.shell /system/xbin/busybox
chmod 755 /system/xbin/busybox
rm /data/local/tmp/busybox
/system/xbin/busybox --install -s /system/xbin
jhnstn00 said:
With my captivate we have many update.zip root methods to choose from. Any chance this will be coming to the epic?
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I don't believe so. The I9000/Vibrant/Captivate have recoveries that don't check the signature of update.zip (as I understand, or maybe they do but only require test keys) which makes rooting-via-recovery possible. Unfortuntaely the Epic and Fascinate do perform signature checks, so we can't enable root via stock-recovery.
That said, the Fascinate one-click methods should also work on the Epic. Although depending on why your friend couldn't get the Epic one-click to work, the Fascinate one may not work either.
mkasick said:
I prefer to keep consistent with the idea that user-installed applications go in /data, and stock-installed-and-unmodified applications remain in /system/app. This way, upgrading Superuser.apk doesn't require a root-shell/root-explorer, you can remove it or upgrade it the way you do with any user installed application--adb install, side-loading via an sdcard, or downloading it from the market.
Plus, in general I prefer to keep my /system as untouched as possible. For example, I don't remove stock apps either. The "su" binary has to be installed in /system to persist after a /data wipe, and busybox is best installed to /system so it's in PATH (haven't looked into modifying the default PATH yet). Otherwise I try to keep /system alone.
Android's default PATH provides four places for busybox to be installed: /sbin, /system/bin, /system/sbin, and /system/xbin. /sbin is part of the initramfs, in other words it's controlled by the kernel you're running. You can install busybox to any of the three /system/*bin directories, but I prefer /system/xbin.
In the traditional Unix conventions, "/usr/bin" is for user-runnable stock-installed programs, and "/usr/sbin" is for root-requiring (superuser-runnable) stock-installed programs. "xbin" isn't part of the standard convention, but I'd guess it's intended for "extra binaries" that are not part of the stock installation (much like /usr/local/bin), thus it seems like an appropriate location for a user-added "su" and "busybox" programs.
The second reason is that "xbin" is relatively empty, so if you want to create the applet symlinks (i.e., so that you can call "cp" instead of "buybox cp") it won't overwrite the stock toolbox symlinks. Also, since "xbin" is last on the default PATH, any programs provided by both toolbox and busybox will default to the toolbox version--which would be important for stock system scripts that might run into compatibility issues if they were to use the busybox versions instead.
To install busybox, grab a copy of the binary from somewhere (one click packages, a copy of stericson.busybox.apk, etc.). Then, once rooted run:
Code:
adb push busybox /data/local/tmp
adb shell
su # Authorize on phone screen
cat /data/local/tmp/busybox > /system/xbin/busybox
chown root.shell /system/xbin/busybox
chmod 755 /system/xbin/busybox
rm /data/local/tmp/busybox
/system/xbin/busybox --install -s /system/xbin
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You sir are a true gentleman! Thank you for the informative answers- its great to have you over here! I have one more question- why can't I usually push directly to /system ?
jimmyz said:
why can't I usually push directly to /system ?
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Pushing directly to /system requires running the adb service on the phone as the root user, so that it has permissions to write to that directory. Usually adb runs on the phone unprivileged, so you can only push to world-writable directories.
Running rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin actually changes this. The exploit forces the adb service to run as the root user, which is why "adb shell" gives you a root shell and "adb push" to /system does work, until the phone is restarted.
Interesting enough, the adb service also runs as root by default in the Android emulator. So there's probably a configuration setting, somewhere, to make it do that. In general it's safer to run adb unprivileged though, and "su" to move files to /system once uploaded elsewhere on the phoe.
mkasick said:
Pushing directly to /system requires running the adb service on the phone as the root user, so that it has permissions to write to that directory. Usually adb runs on the phone unprivileged, so you can only push to world-writable directories.
Running rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin actually changes this. The exploit forces the adb service to run as the root user, which is why "adb shell" gives you a root shell and "adb push" to /system does work, until the phone is restarted.
Interesting enough, the adb service also runs as root by default in the Android emulator. So there's probably a configuration setting, somewhere, to make it do that. In general it's safer to run adb unprivileged though, and "su" to move files to /system once uploaded elsewhere on the phoe.
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I am learning a lot!!! Could you take a look at koush's kernel here, with it I noticed that when using adb I got the # prompt right away and was able to push to /system- maybe he was able to figure out the config settings? Once again thanks!!!
one more ? (feel free to ignore this one) what actually happens when you do
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adb shell /data/local/tmp/rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin
and how does that give you permanent root?
mkasick said:
Pushing directly to /system requires running the adb service on the phone as the root user, so that it has permissions to write to that directory. Usually adb runs on the phone unprivileged, so you can only push to world-writable directories.
Running rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin actually changes this. The exploit forces the adb service to run as the root user, which is why "adb shell" gives you a root shell and "adb push" to /system does work, until the phone is restarted.
Interesting enough, the adb service also runs as root by default in the Android emulator. So there's probably a configuration setting, somewhere, to make it do that. In general it's safer to run adb unprivileged though, and "su" to move files to /system once uploaded elsewhere on the phoe.
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It is indeed a config option in default.prop. However, this is in the initramfs and you can't change it on the fly, so you need to rebuild the kernel to change it. With some work you can modify the stock kernel to do it, but I personally haven't tried it.
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Thank you, this worked perfectly for me, running stock DI18 ROM that I flashed tonight!!! I confirmed by installing the wireless tethering pre-9 apk, and successfully ran the wireless tethering without any errors.
Quick question: do we need to do this after root or is it not needed?
NEEDED?? ===> SuperUser App to help with Security Concerns for the Epic - h**p://forum.sdx-developers.com/epic-development/superuser-app-to-help-with-security-concerns/
Also, Titanium Backup failed to work - it gave an error of denied root access, and said busybox was not installed. What needs to be done to make it work? Do I need to install clockwork mod (not exactly sure what it does though) or a custom ROM?
AndroidSPCS said:
Quick question: do we need to do this after root or is it not needed?
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Not sure exactly what you're asking. This is an alternative to the joeykrim-based one-click roots and rooted kernels. If you already have one of those this isn't really necessary.
AndroidSPCS said:
NEEDED?? ===> SuperUser App
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Yes, the su binary used here requires the Supruser appto be installed to authorize su requests. Otherwise they'll always be denied. Other su binaries might not require it, but then all apps have root access which isn't really a good thing.
AndroidSPCS said:
Also, Titanium Backup failed to work - it gave an error of denied root access, and said busybox was not installed. What needs to be done to make it work?
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Did you authorize Titanium Backup when the Superuser prompt came up (requies the Superuser app to be instald too)?
Titanium Backup has an option to download and install it's preferred version of busybox. Follow the prompts to do that.
mkasick said:
Not sure exactly what you're asking. This is an alternative to the joeykrim-based one-click roots and rooted kernels. If you already have one of those this isn't really necessary.
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Thanks, actually this was referring to the thread where the instructions for going to adb shell or terminal and typing in the following commands:
adb shell
su
mount -t rfs -o remount,rw /dev/block/stl9 /system
cp /system/bin/su /system/bin/jk-su
exit
Yes, the su binary used here requires the Supruser appto be installed to authorize su requests. Otherwise they'll always be denied. Other su binaries might not require it, but then all apps have root access which isn't really a good thing.
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Yes same as above, the question is not whether we need SU app (I know we do), but whether we needed to type the additional commands:
adb shell
su
mount -t rfs -o remount,rw /dev/block/stl9 /system
cp /system/bin/su /system/bin/jk-su
exit
What do these commands do? It seems to me my Superuser app is working fine with wifi tether - popping up with allow / disable permission boxes, etc. Do these commands add something else to Superuser?
Did you authorize Titanium Backup when the Superuser prompt came up (requies the Superuser app to be instald too)?
Titanium Backup has an option to download and install it's preferred version of busybox. Follow the prompts to do that.
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There was no Superuser prompt during the install of the app, nor anytime when it said it had a failure with root access. However there is an option to install BusyBox, which I have not done yet, because I am not sure what busybox is, or what it does. I'd like to find out why I need it and what it does, so I can feel comfortable with installing it.
Thanks again.
echo "root::0:0:root:/data/local:/system/bin/sh" > /etc/passwd
echo "root::0:" > /etc/group
you need to do that in a shell to make sure su works properly.
I'm updating the one click root right now to be less silly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8543226&postcount=455
I just cleaned up the one click root to not do many of the silly things joeykrim's root does. It also means your system will be mounted as rw after a reboot and it won't overwrite your su with jk-su every boot (no more modified playlogo).
Cleaned up all the old stuff from the root so it should work fine even if you were using one of the older one clicks. I made sure su works, incl titanium backup.
I'm still installing superuser.apk to /system/app because I think it belongs there.
Thanks for doing the footwork, mkasick!
Firon said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8543226&postcount=455
I just cleaned up the one click root to not do many of the silly things joeykrim's root does. It also means your system will be mounted as rw after a reboot and it won't overwrite your su with jk-su every boot (no more modified playlogo).
Cleaned up all the old stuff from the root so it should work fine even if you were using one of the older one clicks. I made sure su works, incl titanium backup.
I'm still installing superuser.apk to /system/app because I think it belongs there.
Thanks for doing the footwork, mkasick!
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Firon- why are these lines still needed?
Code:
adb push playlogo /system/bin/playlogo
what is playlogo? Does this just put the stock one back in case you used the joeykrim method in the past?
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adb push remount /system/xbin/remount
Are the remount scripts still needed?
Code:
adb shell ln -s /system/xbin/su /system/bin/su
why is this link needed? why cant su just be in xbin
thanks in advance!
Code:
jimmyz said:
Firon- why are these lines still needed?
Code:
adb push playlogo /system/bin/playlogo
what is playlogo? Does this just put the stock one back in case you used the joeykrim method in the past?
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This is just pushing the stock playlogo, since joeykrim's method overwrites it with some custom script.
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adb push remount /system/xbin/remount
Are the remount scripts still needed?
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The script allows you to easily remount system as ro or rw at will. Why not?
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adb shell ln -s /system/xbin/su /system/bin/su
why is this link needed? why cant su just be in xbin
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I don't know if any apps depend on it being in a particular location. It is in xbin, but I'm also linking it to /system/bin to be safe.
AndroidSPCS said:
What do these commands do? It seems to me my Superuser app is working fine with wifi tether - popping up with allow / disable permission boxes, etc. Do these commands add something else to Superuser?
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These commands were necessary to get Superuser working with the old joeykrim root method. They're not necessary with this method (or the newly released one-click). In other words, if wifi-tethering is already working for you, nothing further is needed to be done.
AndroidSPCS said:
There was no Superuser prompt during the install of the app, nor anytime when it said it had a failure with root access.
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I don't actually use TitaniumBackup. I'm not sure why its superuser-requirements would be different from other apps, but I guess it is. The new one-click appears to address this.
AndroidSPCS said:
However there is an option to install BusyBox, which I have not done yet, because I am not sure what busybox is, or what it does. I'd like to find out why I need it and what it does, so I can feel comfortable with installing it.
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Busybox is a suite of "familar" Unix command-line utilites (things like cp (copy), mv (move), ls (list), etc.). It targets embedded platforms by being very featureful, yet relatively small. It's installed and used on a wide variety of embedded devices including wireless routers, print servers, phones, even televisions.
Oddly enough, Android does not include busybox by default. Instead it comes with it's own utility-programs-package called "toolbox" that isn't nearly as featureful, and quickly becomes a pain to use. Some programs, like TitaniumBackup depend on busybox programs/features, and thus require it's installation. It's safe.
The only problem with busybox is that there's not one single version of it. There's multiple builds of it from the same source code with different sets of features turned on and off. In the past, some folks had a version of busybox installed that didn't contain all the features necessary to support TitaniumBackup, so they added the option to install their own version. It's installed in a separate location, so it won't overwrite any version you do have installed, and it's safe to do. But if you've already installed another version of busybox that does work, then it may be unnecessary.
I did the Jokeyrim method a few days ago. I installed a new kernal and now a new ROM. All seems ok, but ow when I do the "whoami" command in adb shell I get whoami not found. I don't think I'm really rooted anymore. Any attempt to reinstall the Jokeyrim root script results in failure (mostly "device not found" errors). When in adb shell, most commands I type now are either "not found" or "permission denied", so I'm not confident that I'm really rooted now.
Since I have / had Jokeyrim installed, how can I "uninstall" it so that I can use this method of rooting instead? BTW, the newest Clockworkmod is installed and working.
Do I need to flash to stock first? Sorry, but I'm a VERY STOOPID NOOB.
i ported a LeWa OS ROM for my device and everything seemed to work perfectly, booted up without hassle, apps working, and everything was fine. not until i came to the point where i have to check the root capability. it seems like the /system partition was locked as read-only. i pre-rooted the rom with supersu and su binaries properly placed just like i do with other roms i ported. but this one is different. even on adb, the su isn't responding. although the request is showing on the phone and i click on grant, still there is no su response or whatsoever, that is why i cant remount it as rw.
so i was wondering if there is something i have to port from stock boot.img to port boot.img to permanently mount /system partition in RW capability.
i hope anyone can help me
How about making an insecure kernel so you can access root without requesting su?
xlSKYFiRElx said:
i ported a LeWa OS ROM for my device and everything seemed to work perfectly, booted up without hassle, apps working, and everything was fine. not until i came to the point where i have to check the root capability. it seems like the /system partition was locked as read-only. i pre-rooted the rom with supersu and su binaries properly placed just like i do with other roms i ported. but this one is different. even on adb, the su isn't responding. although the request is showing on the phone and i click on grant, still there is no su response or whatsoever, that is why i cant remount it as rw.
so i was wondering if there is something i have to port from stock boot.img to port boot.img to permanently mount /system partition in RW capability.
i hope anyone can help me
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Download SuperSU and reinstall its binaries again.
Or you can try adbd Insecure app (not free)
janekmuric said:
Download SuperSU and reinstall its binaries again.
Or you can try adbd Insecure app (not free)
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supersu or any of its binaries cannot help me. as every app that request root privileges hangs when grant permission is given. ill try adbd insecure app. gonna throw my money to this one
xlSKYFiRElx said:
supersu or any of its binaries cannot help me. as every app that request root privileges hangs when grant permission is given. ill try adbd insecure app. gonna throw my money to this one
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I think the adb insecure app still requires su, you can upload the boot.img and i'll make it insecure (automatically root via adb, no su required)
Oooohh
xlSKYFiRElx said:
supersu or any of its binaries cannot help me. as every app that request root privileges hangs when grant permission is given. ill try adbd insecure app. gonna throw my money to this one
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I didn't understand you correctly. Anyways from what I understand noe you can't give root to any app at all. Try using framaroot to re-root maybe it works. You have to find out the reason it hangs. I'm placing my bet on the corrupt or bad binary.
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I didn't understand you correctly. Anyways from what I understand noe you can't give root to any app at all. Try using framaroot to re-root maybe it works. You have to find out the reason it hangs. I'm placing my bet on the corrupt or bad binary.
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He's right, redownload the binaries again, if it still hangs, it might be the ROM.
Add this to build.prop if you want root via adb:
ro.secure=0
janekmuric said:
I didn't understand you correctly. Anyways from what I understand noe you can't give root to any app at all. Try using framaroot to re-root maybe it works. You have to find out the reason it hangs. I'm placing my bet on the corrupt or bad binary.
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3DMapPlayer said:
He's right, redownload the binaries again, if it still hangs, it might be the ROM.
Add this to build.prop if you want root via adb:
ro.secure=0
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sorry for the confusion but here is the case, i ported this (LEWA) ROM and i pre rooted with, placed the updated su binary to /system/xbin and the latest supersu.apk to /system/app. the phone boots properly and according to the rom. i installed root checker but when it checked for root it says the root is not installed properly but the supersu dialog box is appearing and i can press the grant button and a toast appears saying that it is granted superuser permissions. i tried to re-root using framaroots barahir exploit but it said "Half-Success" because the system partition is mounted read-only.
i tried using root explorer, when i try to mount system as r/w the supersu dialog appears and i can press the grant button again, also the toast appears saying that the app is granted superuser permission but then the application (root explorer) hangs, i tried other root explorer application still the same.
so what i want to achieve is to mount /system as read-write partition
i tried using ADB, but when i try to type su everything i type reappears
example: when i type 'su' the result is like this:
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what i type: su
what show: su
what i type: busybox mount
what show: busybox mount
or simply, everything i type reappears and the command is not executed.
i tried to modify boot.img by editing build.prop and setting this values
#
# ADDITIONAL_DEFAULT_PROPERTIES
#
ro.secure=0
ro.allow.mock.location=1
persist.mtk.aee.aed=on
ro.debuggable=1
persist.sys.usb.config=mass_storage,mtp
persist.service.acm.enable=0
ro.mount.fs=EXT4
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and also editing init.rc and setting this values
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mount yaffs2 [email protected] /system rw remount
mount ubifs [email protected] /system rw remount
but still no luck. i hope you guys understand, sorry for my crappy english. not my language
i'll try to reflash the rom so that i can supply screenshots
also, here is a copy of my boot.img
Got it!
xlSKYFiRElx said:
sorry for the confusion but here is the case, i ported this (LEWA) ROM and i pre rooted with, placed the updated su binary to /system/xbin and the latest supersu.apk to /system/app. the phone boots properly and according to the rom. i installed root checker but when it checked for root it says the root is not installed properly but the supersu dialog box is appearing and i can press the grant button and a toast appears saying that it is granted superuser permissions. i tried to re-root using framaroots barahir exploit but it said "Half-Success" because the system partition is mounted read-only.
i tried using root explorer, when i try to mount system as r/w the supersu dialog appears and i can press the grant button again, also the toast appears saying that the app is granted superuser permission but then the application (root explorer) hangs, i tried other root explorer application still the same.
so what i want to achieve is to mount /system as read-write partition
i tried using ADB, but when i try to type su everything i type reappears
example: when i type 'su' the result is like this:
Code:
what i type: su
what show: su
what i type: busybox mount
what show: busybox mount
or simply, everything i type reappears and the command is not executed.
i tried to modify boot.img by editing build.prop and setting this values
and also editing init.rc and setting this values
Code:
mount yaffs2 [email protected] /system rw remount
mount ubifs [email protected] /system rw remount
but still no luck. i hope you guys understand, sorry for my crappy english. not my language
i'll try to reflash the rom so that i can supply screenshots
also, here is a copy of my boot.img
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Flash the attached ZIP. It will reinstall SuperSU and all needed files.
In this post, I'm not telling any tricks or methods. I am just providing my thoughts and possibilities. Recently I was trying to root my phone and I did a little bit of research on it. By the way, note one thing here that my phone is part of the Android One project and made by Xiaomi, so it's much harder to root than any other phone. If you have also tried to root your phone, then you might have also heard these words... (Magisk manager, Superuser, Busybox, SU Binary, TWRP Custom recovery, root file, System file, Custom Rom), etc. In this thread, if I am right you can root your phone just by using ADB Shell. Rooting your phone means...
Rooting (Android)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Rooting is the process of allowing users of smartphones, tablets, and other devices running the Android mobile operating system to attain privileged control (known as root access) over various Android subsystems. As Android uses the Linux kernel, rooting an Android device gives similar access to administrative (superuser) permissions as on Linux or any other Unix-like operating system such as FreeBSD or macOS.
Rooting is often performed with the goal of overcoming limitations that carriers and hardware manufacturers put on some devices. Thus, rooting gives the ability (or permission) to alter or replace system applications and settings, run specialized applications ("apps") that require administrator-level permissions, or perform other operations that are otherwise inaccessible to a normal Android user. On Android, rooting can also facilitate the complete removal and replacement of the device's operating system, usually with a more recent release of its current operating system.
Root access is sometimes compared to jailbreaking devices running the Apple iOS operating system. However, these are different concepts: Jailbreaking is the bypass of several types of Apple prohibitions for the end-user, including modifying the operating system (enforced by a "locked bootloader"), installing non-officially approved (not available on the App Store) applications via sideloading, and granting the user elevated administration-level privileges (rooting). Many vendors such as HTC, Sony, LG, Asus, and Google explicitly provide the ability to unlock devices and even replace the operating system entirely. Similarly, the ability to sideload applications is typically permissible on Android devices without root permissions. Thus, it is primarily the third aspect of iOS jailbreaking (giving users administrative privileges) that most directly correlates to Android rooting.
Rooting is distinct from SIM unlocking and bootloader unlocking. The former allows removing the SIM lock on a phone, while the latter allows rewriting the phone's boot partition (for example, to install or replace the operating system).
Source: Wikipedia
So, as much as I've noticed (I could be wrong) mainly all rooting processes does one of those two things,
1. Edits your boot.img
or
2. Adds a SU binary file to your system & more specifically to your system/bin file.
So if that's true and every Android phone or at least the same brands or same models or at least same Android versions or maybe all of them requires the exact same SU binary file(Superuser binary file). Now, if you don't want to change your boot.img there is only one is remaining and that is adding the SU binary file. Now you might ask how to do that...
Just use your ADB shell to give writing system files permission to your file manager. And then put the SU file to your system.
So, that's all I was just trying to say. Now if I am right please let me know and thanks for reading until now. And also if I am right, please someone provide me the SU binary file of Xiaomi MI A3, code name: laurel_sprout . Thank you once again, All developers, take care of your health. For further inquiries and helping me out, message me on XDA personally.
Writer: Samiullah Ridoy.
Samiullah Ridoy said:
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Just use your ADB shell to give writing system files permission to your file manager. And then put the SU file to your system.
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Absolutely errleading ( i.e. wrong ) statement:
1. To mount Android's partition /system as RW - so you can copy SU-binary onto it - you need superuser ( SU ) rights.
2. Modern Android versions have SELinux enabled, and most also DM-verity and/or AVB. These safety-features lock the /system partition to get tampered, what at least with regards to SELinux and/or DM-verity only can be disabled by superuser ( SU ).
3. With regards to AVB one has to unlock device's bootloader, too, in order to disable this lock.
@Samiullah Ridoy
As above post said,
-You can't simply give writing system files permission.
-Only emulators have that ability(since they are not production builds)
Here is your device specific guide at Mi A3 forum https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-root-mi-a3-with-magisk-without-twrp.3958509/
Rooting your device is same as any other device if we use Magisk rooting method. It does not take additional steps to root your specific device.
Thanks
You need to disable DM-verity.
You can do it from ADB. You need to modify Stock boot image file. Patch it and disable DM-Verity.
HemanthJabalpuri said:
@Samiullah Ridoy
As above post said,
-You can't simply give writing system files permission.
-Only emulators have that ability(since they are not production builds)
Here is your device specific guide at Mi A3 forum https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-root-mi-a3-with-magisk-without-twrp.3958509/
Rooting your device is same as any other device if we use Magisk rooting method. It does not take additional steps to root your specific device.
Thanks
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I have already seen that post & I don't want to do it that way. You said, " You can't simply give writing system files permission. ", I've already mentioned but saying it once again that I could be wrong but we can give writing system files permission by using these code...
Code:
adb shell pm grant [package name] android.permission.WRITE_SETTINGS
adb shell pm grant [package name] android.permission.ACCESS_MEDIA_LOCATION
adb shell pm grant [package name] android.permission.WRITE_INTERNAL_STORAGE
Tell me if I am wrong & thanks for your compliment.
Samiullah Ridoy said:
I have already seen that post & I don't want to do it that way. You said, " You can't simply give writing system files permission. ", I've already mentioned but saying it once again that I could be wrong but we can give writing system files permission by using these code...
Code:
adb shell pm grant [package name] android.permission.WRITE_SETTINGS
adb shell pm grant [package name] android.permission.ACCESS_MEDIA_LOCATION
adb shell pm grant [package name] android.permission.WRITE_INTERNAL_STORAGE
Tell me if I am wrong & thanks for your compliment.
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I didn't tried those but I am sure those are NOT for writing read-only partitions.
Those are for accessing internal storage and changing settings like brightness I think.
jwoegerbauer said:
Absolutely errleading ( i.e. wrong ) statement:
1. To mount Android's partition /system as RW - so you can copy SU-binary onto it - you need superuser ( SU ) rights.
2. Modern Android versions have SELinux enabled, and most also DM-verity and/or AVB. These safety-features lock the /system partition to get tampered, what at least with regards to SELinux and/or DM-verity only can be disabled by superuser ( SU ).
3. With regards to AVB one has to unlock device's bootloader, too, in order to disable this lock.
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Absolutely correct.
It seems to me OP has never tried this, simply has copied from other sources. That is why the nonsense.
I have looked into rooting, and I don't understand how it works, but from what I can tell, shouldn't people be able to root using adb to change a file that is run regularly in /system, so that whenever it runs it would grant a given app root perms, and that app would then be able to give others root perms? would you have to change the file another way because adb doesn't run commands as root? wouldn't this be alot more simple than what has been being done?
Rooting a phone''s Android technically is simply adding standard Linux function SU ( read: Switch User ) to Android's ecosystem.
Once SU got added and you run the file without any other parameters it switches your credentials and permissions from a normal user to that of the superuser ( comparable to Administrator on Windows OS ). You are then in complete control and can add anything, remove anything and access functions on your phone that you couldn't reach before.
BTW:
With Android versions 6 and higher all what is needed is to replace the pre-installed ( restricted ) Toybox binary with an unrestricted Toybox binary ( e.g. 0.8.5 ) that contains the SU-cmdlet.
If I am understanding this, than you need to grant an app SU, but first you have to install the command that allowes giving of SU? or turn on that command (on android 6+), and grant a manager app permission to use it?
I have used magisk to patch the file and android platform tools (fastboot or stuff like that) but it does not work. I dont want to install twrp as i dont really trust custom recoveries as much and i dont want to use odin for the same reason. Is this impossible or is there a way but i am just doing it incorrectly. Please reply asap!
Never installed Magisk nor TWRP, why should I have done it?
To answer your question: A temporary root can get achieved by putting a suitable su into directory /data/local/tmp and making it executable.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachments/su-binaries-zip.5566949/
xXx yYy said:
Never installed Magisk nor TWRP, why should I have done it?
To answer your question: A temporary root can get achieved by putting a suitable su into directory /data/local/tmp and making it executable.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachments/su-binaries-zip.5566949/
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The data partition is not accessible without having root first. How are they to place su in data partition to gain temp root without first gaining root to place su in data partition? How can they root the device by using a method that requires root in the first place to achieve what you are telling them?
I think the code
Code:
adb push <PATH-TO-SU-ON-PC> /data/local/tmp
always works , because this path ( /data/local/tmp ) is always present and writable on Android dev device and Emulator.
At least it always worked for me since I'm rooting Android this way.
xXx yYy said:
I think the code
Code:
adb push <PATH-TO-SU-ON-PC> /data/local/tmp
always works , because this path ( /data/local/tmp ) is always present and writable on Android dev device and Emulator.
At least it always worked for me since I'm rooting Android this way.
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do i unroot my device by rebooting it?
p.s. will doing this solution create a possibility of bricking my device?
Technically seen you can't root / unroot a device, but only Android OS.
As with Android OS root ( sometimes called superuser ) is the same as Administrator with Windows OS. Simply adding an user with elevated privileges never will brick an Android device.
Become familiar what root is the world of Linux OS - take note that Android OS merely is a port of it.
xXx yYy said:
Technically seen you can't root / unroot a device, but only Android OS.
As with Android OS root ( sometimes called superuser ) is the same as Administrator with Windows OS. Simply adding an user with elevated privileges never will brick an Android device.
Become familiar what root is the world of Linux OS - take note that Android OS merely is a port of it.
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so running that command will give me legit root privileges and i can do the things an admin can do without any malware or damage?
Droidriven said:
The data partition is not accessible without having root first. How are they to place su in data partition to gain temp root without first gaining root to place su in data partition? How can they root the device by using a method that requires root in the first place to achieve what you are telling them?
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so should i really use magisk to root my device?
moutsu said:
so should i really use magisk to root my device?
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No, try what was suggested by placing su in the data/local/tmp. If that doesn't work, try using magisk to root your device.
xXx yYy said:
I think the code
Code:
adb push <PATH-TO-SU-ON-PC> /data/local/tmp
always works , because this path ( /data/local/tmp ) is always present and writable on Android dev device and Emulator.
At least it always worked for me since I'm rooting Android this way.
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I've never seen a device rooted by such simple means, in my experience, it has always required root to even access data partition, especially if trying to push/pull files to/from data via adb.
I mean, if it were really that easy, why would all these rooting tools snd methods that exist on XDA have ever been needed to be created?
What devices have you rooted using this method? Can you provide information that explains and confirms what you say?
Hmmmm...
Short checked on my SM-R860 Android 11...
Code:
freshbs:/ $ cd /data/local/tmp
freshbs:/data/local/tmp $ ls
freshbs:/data/local/tmp $ ls -a1l
total 6
drwxrwx--x 2 shell shell 3452 2022-03-25 01:20 .
drwxr-x--x 4 root root 3452 2022-03-25 01:20 ..
Need more time or drinks to place something here...
Waiting for other results...
Best Regards
@Droidriven
Fellow member @adfree has proven that even with Android 11 directory /data/local/tmp worlwide exists and is writeable.
Sometimes it really makes sense to understand what OP wants to achieve: He just wants to know how Android can be temporarily rooted.
xXx yYy said:
@Droidriven
Fellow member @adfree has proven that even with Android 11 directory /data/local/tmp worlwide exists and is writeable.
Sometimes it really makes sense to understand what OP wants to achieve: He just wants to know how Android can be temporarily rooted.
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I do need to know how an android can be temporarily rooted so I can give certain apps on my phone root access to recover some stuff I accidentally deleted. However, I do need a bit of clarification on what su file I need to put into the directory as the filed you linked was a zip file.
I would also like a method on how to unroot my device.
Dear moutsu...
IMHO instead blabla... IMHO it makes sense to start from scratch with FULL infos.
I can see only bla bla Samsung Device...
Please give full details...
A
Model Name...
Example:
SM-G920F is Android 7 for instance...
B
Is Phone alive... then give full details about Firmware Version.
Easiest way for most infos...
Type:
*#1234#
Type or make Photo or Screenshot...
Best Regards
@xXx yYy
Thank you very much. But...
I clicked through your profile and find some more puzzle parts of your idea...
Learning to root my old Galaxy S4
I have an old Samsung Galaxy S4. It's been off the network for a while and its system clock has drifted. However, adb works and I can use the old phone as a sandbox environment to learn about low level Android fundamentals. I would like to learn...
forum.xda-developers.com
After this I was drunken enough to try few things with my SM-R860...
WITHOUT success...
Later I will add my ADB output... for better understanding...
IMHO I am not total Noob in Rooting something...
Also I have "some" experiences in recover halfdead devices to backup beloved data...
I am sure you have forgotten about Samsung additional Security check... like Knox crap etc...
So my conclusion...
Your method is good to know...
But chance for success in "newer" Samsung devices is not 100 %...
Maybe you can give Samsung model name... where this work?
I could check SM-G920F with Android 7 just for fun... if I have time...
Thanx in advance.
Best Regards
regardless it is writeable to adb shell only (uid 2000), chown is forbidden anyway. even if you set SUID bit that wouldn't make much sense in /data/local/tmp
furthermore, even if you could place su binary in /system (which requires unlocked bootloader + dm-verity patch) it still requires privileged daemon in background where su want connect apps (but not exist).
so this method never worked, except for some ancient android devices where remount /system was possible from adb root.
and we haven't spoke about selinux, yet
Magisk does all this, but requires* unlocked bootloader - which triggers factory reset. So unless you have some nice exploit like dirty-cow or mtk-su, temporary root is simply impossible.
edit: TWRP is not able to decrypt samsung encryption btw. So if you want have access to userdata partition on locked bootloader the only way would be (samsung signed) so called "combination ROM" (with same bootloader level) to be flashed from Odin via HOME_CSC or heimdall.
if your device is ancient old you might lucky bootloader is unlocked, userdata partition is not encrypted at all, and ROM is just signed with test keys. in that case you can flash anything on recovery partition. philz touch recovery even provided flashable zips that signed with test keys, these zips can be flashed straight from stock recovery without PC. I remember temporary zips exist, that only boot into custom recovery without actually installing it.
edit2: *except some Mediatek devices with AVBv1 where one can flash magisk patched boot.img on locked bootloader
My last 2 cents here ( I no longer participate this thread ):
The su ( read: switchuser ) command is used to run an Android system function as a different user. It is the easiest way to switch or change to the administrative account ( read: superuser ) in the current logged in session.
Most versions of Android disable the superuser ( mostly mistakenly called root user - take note that root user in Android is the user with ID 0 who is by default present on all Android versions, is the user of session when Android gets started ) account by default making the system more secure. But, this also restricts the Android user from running specific system related commands.
Using su to temporarily act as a superuser allows you to bypass this restriction and perform system related tasks with different users.
The synthax of su command is
Code:
su [options] [username [[arguments]]
If a username isn't specified, su defaults to the superuser. Now, the logged-in user can run all system commands. This will also change the home directory and path to executable files.
If the su is used to temporarily act the logged-in user as superuser then the su binary can be located anywhere in Android's filesystem, e.g. /data/local/tmp, /storage/emulated/0, etc.pp, it must not be located in Android's system partition.
xXx yYy said:
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yes, that's maybe better. teach yourself about android first. android is not linux
What special privileges "/system/xbin/su" does have w.r.t. root access?
This answer says: Because of the way directory/file permissions are configured on Android, you need to have the su binary on your /system partition in order for it to work. Putting elsewhere...
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what is your current bootloader level? combination ROM is available (haven't checked these download links)
https://www.samsungfirmwares.info/samsung-sm-j415gn-combination-firmware-file-rom
my expectation ro.debuggable=1 is enabled
adb root will work on eng build
aIecxs said:
yes, that's maybe better. teach yourself about android first. android is not linux
What special privileges "/system/xbin/su" does have w.r.t. root access?
This answer says: Because of the way directory/file permissions are configured on Android, you need to have the su binary on your /system partition in order for it to work. Putting elsewhere...
android.stackexchange.com
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Yeah, I get where they were coming from but.....
Nah. It just doesn't work that way for everybody. Like all things android, it really just depends on what device you have and how crappy its hardware/software and security is. Lower end/cheap and old stuff doesn't have as much time invested in making them secure to save on development and distribution costs.
Unfortunately, Samsung just isn't one of those brands that are easily rooted these days, unless you buy specific models with specific firmware/binary combinations.