If you are using a dialer app that isn't dependent on Google Services, and isn't the one that came with your phone (i.e. dependent on a bunch of manufacturer bloat), and you like it... could you share?
Optimally, it is open-source. I do not mind paid apps, but I need to be able to get it without Google Play (this is going on a Micro-G system, with no Store replacement).
"Simple Dialer" off F-Droid (et al) fits this bill nicely, but it has a few quirks that are too trivial to whine about but too lengthy to fix myself from source. I've tried the others there, not really what I am looking for.
Check out on f-droid
the most used FOSS dialers are
koler and true phone
out of the box , there is also the aosp phone (tipically comes from lineageOS)
If I am not mistaking there are also a magisk module for MIUI dialer
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Regrets kind sir, as mentioned, I already did that. Not trying to pick on any FOSS contribution, but none of those work quite as well for me as I want them to. To quantify, The LG dialer is the best functioning one I've used, but it requires AFAIK the whole platform (i.e. LG firmware) to work. There might be a way, but in the end, it is closed source from a vendor no longer selling phones, so a bit of a security risk IMHO.
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? Please tell me more. That's an Xiaomi thing, right? You are saying it works with other brands, too? ( OnePlus Nord N10 5G in this case)
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Regrets kind sir, as mentioned, I already did that. Not trying to pick on any FOSS contribution, but none of those work quite as well for me as I want them to. To quantify, The LG dialer is the best functioning one I've used, but it requires AFAIK the whole platform (i.e. LG firmware) to work. There might be a way, but in the end, it is closed source from a vendor no longer selling phones, so a bit of a security risk IMHO.
? Please tell me more. That's an Xiaomi thing, right? You are saying it works with other brands, too? ( OnePlus Nord N10 5G in this case)
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Sorry, my bad
I saw a set of miui magisk modules, but checking better no dial in them
What's the problem with your n10 dialer?
tipically dialer rely on other system services, so if there is a problem, maybe is not in the dial app, but more deep in the system
did you already try a factory reset?
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What's the problem with your n10 dialer?
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Current version relies on Google Services, which have been removed from my phone. Most phones now are ditching OEM dialers for this.
SomeRandomGuy said:
Current version relies on Google Services, which have been removed from my phone. Most phones now are ditching OEM dialers for this.
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I am removing gservices as well, and koler for me works on A12 and on A11, also gdialer works even without services
@SomeRandomGuy
I notice a particolare behavior:
if you just replace the dialer apk, maybe the incall-ui will not work propertly
you should try installing the new dialer,
set It as default in the application settings
then remove the stock dialer
Aaaaand... here's why I ask this:
https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/google_messages_gdpr/
Related
Ahem...
Let me start by saying that this device is definitely up there with the finest when it comes to build quality. I mean, this thing is smooth, beautifully machined, great screen, great sound quality, ad nauseam etc etc...
But! The dialer app looks like it's rendered in Netscape Navigator (yeah, I'm old). Not only is it impractical as F**K but why does it not default to my Favorites like every single modern phone out there?
Why does it insist to always show the SIM slot number next to every single contact entry, even though I only have one of those creepy micro soul/wallet suckers?
Why is the incoming call such a nightmarish affair and don't even get me started on the ongoing call screen. Ho God, the buttons, where have they hidden all the buttons?? Ho the humanity (or lack thereof in this case)...
Honestly, this thing creeps me out! I've started to dread the time when I hear my ringtone and just start doing my little mantra: please let it go to voice mail, please please please... You get the idea.
I'm like a phreaking Freddy Kruger victim, can't fall asleep or IT will ring!!!
In short... And yes, I understand the thread could be a lot less tl;dr, has anyone tried to sideload the Google phone app?
Many thanks in advance.
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Ahem...
Let me start by saying that this device is definitely up there with the finest when it comes to build quality. I mean, this thing is smooth, beautifully machined, great screen, great sound quality, ad nauseam etc etc...
But! The dialer app looks like it's rendered in Netscape Navigator (yeah, I'm old). Not only is it impractical as F**K but why does it not default to my Favorites like every single modern phone out there?
Why does it insist to always show the SIM slot number next to every single contact entry, even though I only have one of those creepy micro soul/wallet suckers?
Why is the incoming call such a nightmarish affair and don't even get me started on the ongoing call screen. Ho God, the buttons, where have they hidden all the buttons?? Ho the humanity (or lack thereof in this case)...
Honestly, this thing creeps me out! I've started to dread the time when I hear my ringtone and just start doing my little mantra: please let it go to voice mail, please please please... You get the idea.
I'm like a phreaking Freddy Kruger victim, can't fall asleep or IT will ring!!!
In short... And yes, I understand the thread could be a lot less tl;dr, has anyone tried to sideload the Google phone app?
Many thanks in advance.
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Pixel dial app, you might not be able to use this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.dialer
I don't want to recommend another I haven't used but there are about a hundred in the store.
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Pixel dial app, you might not be able to use this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.dialer
I don't want to recommend another I haven't used but there are about a hundred in the store.
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Thanks for the recommendation but yeah, it's classified as "not compatible" with device.
I've tried/read about a bunch of others and most push data to their servers (contacts list, etc).
Been reading about past efforts on other HTC devices to use the Gdialer but it seems to crash, a lot.
To get the google dialer, your best bet is to use magisk and install the google framework to be able to install it off the playstore.
I've done it on my htc 10 and it seems to work perfectly fine (tried it with stock rom, "stock" rom, and with leedroid which has the option in aroma installer to use it from the getgo) I definitely won't change it back and will probably do the same thing once I get my u11+
hayame said:
To get the google dialer, your best bet is to use magisk and install the google framework to be able to install it off the playstore.
I've done it on my htc 10 and it seems to work perfectly fine (tried it with stock rom, "stock" rom, and with leedroid which has the option in aroma installer to use it from the getgo) I definitely won't change it back and will probably do the same thing once I get my u11+
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Please can you explain me how do it?
Thanks
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i've installed several versions of the Google Dialer on my rooted U11+ and they all FC when i attempt to open the app. I installed the framework zip and included the Magisk module but no luck getting it to work. attached is a Logcat specific to the Google Phone app: not sure this is enough info or in the right format; however, i would appreciate an interpretation of the issue from someone more knowledgeable than me. thanks.
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i've installed several versions of the Google Dialer on my rooted U11+ and they all FC when i attempt to open the app. I installed the framework zip and included the Magisk module but no luck getting it to work. attached is a Logcat specific to the Google Phone app: not sure this is enough info or in the right format; however, i would appreciate an interpretation of the issue from someone more knowledgeable than me. thanks.
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Judging only from past experience with another phone, you need to make sure to set the google dialer as the default dialer app in the settings, and of course also allow permissions for the app.
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Judging only from past experience with another phone, you need to make sure to set the google dialer as the default dialer app in the settings, and of course also allow permissions for the app.
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agreed. i should have mentioned that all permissions were set and the app was set as the default Phone app. no luck though, it still FCs when i launch the app (Google Phone). thanks for your reply.
Try this one of you have Google framework installed : https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-phone/google-phone-7-0-140861421-nonnexus-release/
Then, update it via play store. The only message I get is that my phone is incompatible when I start the app but it's working anyway.
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Try this one of you have Google framework installed : https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-phone/google-phone-7-0-140861421-nonnexus-release/
Then, update it via play store. The only message I get is that my phone is incompatible when I start the app but it's working anyway.
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thanks, but i tried that route already. version 7 works with an occassional freeze. updating to the the newest version via the Play Store works, but the newly installed (v15) Google Dialer app still FC's when i launch the dialer to make a call. one reason i need to use the Google Dialer is because press-and-hold the #1 on the htc dialer does not dial my voicemail. voicemail number is configured but it doesn't work with the htc phone app. works just fine with the Truecaller and Google Dialer. currently using a combination of Truecaller (using dialer to initate calls) and the Google Dialer app for in-call activity (set as default Phone app): i initiate a call via Truecaller and it connects using Google Dialer. Using SwiftBlack substratum theme for both apps.
Is there any way to install the Google Dialer app without root on a Dual SIM U11+ ?
I tried all the official versions 7.x-8.1 from APK Mirror and none of them could install, incompatibility error during install.
Is there any other possibility with G Dialer ?
OR an alternative dialer from Play Store ?
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Is there any way to install the Google Dialer app without root on a Dual SIM U11+ ?
I tried all the official versions 7.x-8.1 from APK Mirror and none of them could install, incompatibility error during install.
Is there any other possibility with G Dialer ?
OR an alternative dialer from Play Store ?
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HTC dialer is the best.
P.S. Alternatively you may want use Truecaller from Play Store.
Sent from my translucent U11+
Combo Google Dialer + Google Contact better than stock
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/themes/app-root-google-dialer-10-1-161735957-t3636608
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Combo Google Dialer + Google Contact better than stock
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/themes/app-root-google-dialer-10-1-161735957-t3636608
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Latest version (15) works on my UK U11+
phucmaster said:
Combo Google Dialer + Google Contact better than stock
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/themes/app-root-google-dialer-10-1-161735957-t3636608
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Tried that version as well and it freezes when I open it. The other version 15 FCs on my U11+. Error in logcat says "ActivityTrigger: activityStartTrigger: not whiteListedcom.google.android.dialer/com.google.android.dialer.extensions.GoogleDialtactsActivity/2015437" and I have no idea what this means.
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Latest version (15) works on my UK U11+
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@Galactus - are you using version 15 posted on apkmirror.com or the version referenced in @phucmaster post above yours?
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@Galactus - are you using version 15 posted on apkmirror.com or the version referenced in @phucmaster post above yours?
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the one mentioned in phucmasters post from the moto forum
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the one mentioned in phucmasters post from the moto forum
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@Galactus thanks for replying. i believe i resolved my issue: it was a permissions issue that - for some reason - the request to approve did not appear when i installed version 15 (from apkmirror) on my device. i decided to factory reset my device add my google account (so i can use the nearby places feature), then install Google Dialer V15. i get the "This device is not supported ..." nag at first launch of the dialer, but that's ok. so far, all is working well and i'm good to go now. stopped working...ugh!
d.cortez said:
@Galactus thanks for replying. i believe i resolved my issue: it was a permissions issue that - for some reason - the request to approve did not appear when i installed version 15 (from apkmirror) on my device. i decided to factory reset my device add my google account (so i can use the nearby places feature), then install Google Dialer V15. i get the "This device is not supported ..." nag at first launch of the dialer, but that's ok. so far, all is working well and i'm good to go now. stopped working...ugh!
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You can try other version here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-google-phone-v14-0-175904292-bubble-t3708218
Set up to be default app. It will work well. Sometimes it is stuck but not at all.
Use for 1 sim. Dual sim version in the future.
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if you need stable, stay with HTC app.
Hi, I've recently set up my new S7 with LineageOS, and I'm determined to not install GAPPs or Google anything on this device. I've been able to find almost everything I need, but I'm still missing speech-to-text functionality.
I installed AnySoftKeyboard from F-Droid because it said it did speech-to-text in its description; however, when I attempted to use STT on the keyboard, I got a popup error message that said, "Voice Input is not installed on your device." The box had a button for installing this feature, but I suspect it pointed to a location on the Google Play store, since it offered to open F-Droid or Uptodown, neither of which had the needed app.
What can I do to obtain STT on this device without getting entangled with Google?
Even if you are using Los there are still Google closed binaries on your device. There is no way of getting away form Google with Android. Not completely.
zelendel said:
Even if you are using Los there are still Google closed binaries on your device. There is no way of getting away form Google with Android. Not completely.
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Fine, sure, now do you have any helpful suggestions about TTS?
Feenix0 said:
Fine, sure, now do you have any helpful suggestions about TTS?
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The only one I know that works on Android (was origianly made to work on feature phones.) is controlled by Google or Apple. There is no real open source free, none tracking, setup.
You could look up the Google less preoject and see if they got it working but last I heard most abonoded the project because it just wasn't worth it.
Feenix0 said:
Hi, I've recently set up my new S7 with LineageOS, and I'm determined to not install GAPPs or Google anything on this device. I've been able to find almost everything I need, but I'm still missing speech-to-text functionality.
I installed AnySoftKeyboard from F-Droid because it said it did speech-to-text in its description; however, when I attempted to use STT on the keyboard, I got a popup error message that said, "Voice Input is not installed on your device." The box had a button for installing this feature, but I suspect it pointed to a location on the Google Play store, since it offered to open F-Droid or Uptodown, neither of which had the needed app.
What can I do to obtain STT on this device without getting entangled with Google?
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TTS and SST is bound to google, you can't download it from anywhere, and even if you download it, it won't work without google services, you must install Gapps (Nano), hope it'll help
Seems like this is a dead end, for now, but I found lots of things in the works. I expect that we'll be seeing viable alternative STT services in a few years. Google, Microsoft, and Apple are always going to be at the front in this sort of thing because of their budgets, but open source will catch up.
This may be the reason I get into android app development... local, although not as good, STT is possible, I wrote some stuff in Python to do this on an embedded system. You just have to train, or purchase voice models. There are also many cloud based solutions other than Google at this point, so I don't believe this to be technologically impossible.
japtain.cack said:
This may be the reason I get into android app development... local, although not as good, STT is possible, I wrote some stuff in Python to do this on an embedded system. You just have to train, or purchase voice models. There are also many cloud based solutions other than Google at this point, so I don't believe this to be technologically impossible.
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Thanks for the feedback. I've actually retired the S7 for a OP 7T, and I'm pretty much resigned to Goggle STT for now.
Feenix0 said:
Thanks for the feedback. I've actually retired the S7 for a OP 7T, and I'm pretty much resigned to Goggle STT for now.
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Finally, with the flashing of my phone, my life is 100% Google free. Not even using MicroG. #GoogleYou'reFired. I'll just be doing without STT until I figure out a solution.
japtain.cack said:
Finally, with the flashing of my phone, my life is 100% Google free. Not even using MicroG. #GoogleYou'reFired. I'll just be doing without STT until I figure out a solution.
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Until I find a satisfactory alternative to Google's email, calendar, contacts, and cloud storage solutions, I'll still be here. Not that I'm looking right now...but one day. Maybe I'll try MicroG on my next phone. Maybe Elon Musk will roll out a linux-based, fully open source phone and supporting systems. Here's hoping!
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Until I find a satisfactory alternative to Google's email, calendar, contacts, and cloud storage solutions, I'll still be here. Not that I'm looking right now...but one day. Maybe I'll try MicroG on my next phone. Maybe Elon Musk will roll out a linux-based, fully open source phone and supporting systems. Here's hoping!
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Yeah, I'm using the synology nas and suite of apps. They are pretty OK. The sacrifices we make to opt out of data mining and the selling of our data to third parties... I currently have no plans to use microg. If elon makes a phone, I'd buy it, hopefully it would be better and more open.
japtain.cack said:
Yeah, I'm using the synology nas and suite of apps. They are pretty OK. The sacrifices we make to opt out of data mining and the selling of our data to third parties... I currently have no plans to use microg. If elon makes a phone, I'd buy it, hopefully it would be better and more open.
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Considering how closed source all of elon projects are I very much doubt he'd bring out an open source android competitor, probs call it the xphone, pay to remove the integrated ****coin miner and some more for the ability to use his new 5g networking but hey maybe it'll have fart sounds as notifactions
Hi everyone.
I'm writing this for everyone having problems with notification from some apps.
Right now I not receive notification from:
1. Twitter - not at all. And I can't go into setting for Push notifications
2. Gmail - that's funny. I receive one notification a day around 8-9PM.
3. Youtube - no notifications
4. LinkedIn - no notfications
And some specific apps for my country like: Inpost and OLX.
Share what's your experience with that. Maybe we will find solution.
L0tnik said:
Hi everyone.
I'm writing this for everyone having problems with notification from some apps.
Right now I not receive notification from:
1. Twitter - not at all. And I can't go into setting for Push notifications
2. Gmail - that's funny. I receive one notification a day around 8-9PM.
3. Youtube - no notifications
4. LinkedIn - no notfications
And some specific apps for my country like: Inpost and OLX.
Share what's your experience with that. Maybe we will find solution.
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I am the same. Only WhatsApp gets notifications. All others don't work
I installed GMS just out of curiosity and had the same issue. It seems like one of the Core functionalities of GMS is still incompatible/not working (Firebase). You'd expect WhatsApp to always work as it uses a separate Push service protocol.
Yeah, Gmail definitely does not work. =/
I have a hunch this is all tied to using such an old version of google account manager. (v4 is only version that still works)
This problem is because you are not registered in push notification by gms. Youbhave to choose GMS or push notification for this moment.
Seems like some have got it working, see here: https://mightygadget.co.uk/how-to-install-google-play-storeon-the-huawei-p40-pro-without-notification-errors/
el viento said:
Seems like some have got it working, see here:
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I wrote that. It was to disable the notification nags you get when you get GMS working - it is not in relation to receiving notifications from apps. I will look into this today though.
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I wrote that. It was to disable the notification nags you get when you get GMS working - it is not in relation to receiving notifications from apps. I will look into this today though.
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Nice work it was a good guide so thanks . GMS currently running on my P40 pro at the moment no major issues. I did get an error this morning regarding google account services but its gone away and not come back. I also got the autocomplete working on apps just by changing the autofill settings to google and all seems to be working fine (most probably already know this but it may be helpful to some). Only issue i have run into is Netflix is not working with the latest Software update (incompatible device) but I'm sure they will update it soon.
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I wrote that. It was to disable the notification nags you get when you get GMS working - it is not in relation to receiving notifications from apps. I will look into this today though.
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Thank you.
Will it work from a memory card or a usb stick is mandatory ?
Borh77 said:
Thank you.
Will it work from a memory card or a usb stick is mandatory ?
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I have only done it via USB, but it shouldn't make any difference at all, as long as you get LZ Play and the APKs on the phone it should work fine.
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el viento said:
Nice work it was a good guide so thanks . GMS currently running on my P40 pro at the moment no major issues. I did get an error this morning regarding google account services but its gone away and not come back. I also got the autocomplete working on apps just by changing the autofill settings to google and all seems to be working fine (most probably already know this but it may be helpful to some). Only issue i have run into is Netflix is not working with the latest Software update (incompatible device) but I'm sure they will update it soon.
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Play store didn't have Netflix for me, I had to install that via APK Pure, but it works fine for me from there, it will only work in SD though.
I have had the occasional random notification that google can't log in my account, but then it carries on working as normal.
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I wrote that. It was to disable the notification nags you get when you get GMS working - it is not in relation to receiving notifications from apps. I will look into this today though.
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Hey mate, thank you for your work. Just a quick question, do you think Huawei can/will patch these methods in the future? I know they don't allow bootloader unlocking, but they could at least continue to allow people to sideload GMS on their phones. I already ordered a P40 Pro though so it's kinda too late now, but I'm just wondering what people think.
jericho246 said:
Hey mate, thank you for your work. Just a quick question, do you think Huawei can/will patch these methods in the future? I know they don't allow bootloader unlocking, but they could at least continue to allow people to sideload GMS on their phones. I already ordered a P40 Pro though so it's kinda too late now, but I'm just wondering what people think.
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Good question, but there is no way of knowing for sure. I am sure it is possible this method may stop working in the future, but I doubt Huawei would be the ones to prevent it. The general consensus is that neither Huawei or Google wants to be in this situation, Google obviously earns a lot of money from people using their services and Huawei is likely losing a lot of users by not having Google on their phones. The issue will be if Google has political pressure applied to them to stop these workarounds. I don't imagine it is that hard to blacklist devices, or maybe anything running a specific chipset.
MightyGadget said:
I wrote that. It was to disable the notification nags you get when you get GMS working - it is not in relation to receiving notifications from apps. I will look into this today though.
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I hope you get this figured out!! Thank you for all you do loving my p40 pro minus certain apps not getting notifications
el viento said:
Nice work it was a good guide so thanks . GMS currently running on my P40 pro at the moment no major issues. I did get an error this morning regarding google account services but its gone away and not come back. I also got the autocomplete working on apps just by changing the autofill settings to google and all seems to be working fine (most probably already know this but it may be helpful to some). Only issue i have run into is Netflix is not working with the latest Software update (incompatible device) but I'm sure they will update it soon.
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Just dowlonad netflix version 4.16.1 and all will be great
can anybody check, protonmail app and gmail app not receiving notifications, xda and reddit as well
MightyGadget said:
Good question, but there is no way of knowing for sure. I am sure it is possible this method may stop working in the future, but I doubt Huawei would be the ones to prevent it. The general consensus is that neither Huawei or Google wants to be in this situation, Google obviously earns a lot of money from people using their services and Huawei is likely losing a lot of users by not having Google on their phones. The issue will be if Google has political pressure applied to them to stop these workarounds. I don't imagine it is that hard to blacklist devices, or maybe anything running a specific chipset.
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Well let's hope they keep it working like this indeed .
Another question @MightyGadget, what do you think of the security implications using this method, considering the modded apps that are being used etc.? Is it safe to use as a daily driver with all kinds of personal stuff on it?
MajestyZ said:
Well let's hope they keep it working like this indeed .
Another question @MightyGadget, what do you think of the security implications using this method, considering the modded apps that are being used etc.? Is it safe to use as a daily driver with all kinds of personal stuff on it?
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With all due respect, what can happen? Who cares about what you and I do on our phones?
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With all due respect, what can happen? Who cares about what you and I do on our phones?
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Well, aside from installing some apps that might be stealing your credit card details and username/passwords for other apps there is nothing else really ...
I was too tempted to buy the P40 pro after previously owning the P30 pro, but the lack of google services made me change my mind. It's a brilliant phone, sadly.
Al3xxxinho said:
Well, aside from installing some apps that might be stealing your credit card details and username/passwords for other apps there is nothing else really ...
I was too tempted to buy the P40 pro after previously owning the P30 pro, but the lack of google services made me change my mind. It's a brilliant phone, sadly.
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if you really thinking about seucirty or privacy you wont be using google at all that just doesnt mix. im sure google knows more about you than your parents at the moment.
2nd are you not using 2fa for your bank or your accounts? im sure even somebody tries to login your account with 2fa enabled they have like 0.1% they can access it and make payments for you.
Well, I'm not refering to google, because yes, they know more about me than myself, but when you install the chinese google play services you really don't know what else you are installing. A keylogger would be a fine alternative to steal all your data ... Just a thought.
i am wanting to get a mate 30 pro and of course install google services on it...
in almost every video tutorial i saw whether its the mate 30 pro or the mate 30 or the p40 the GSF ID is always the same.
the GSF ID is supposed to be unique to every device yet in these videos they are all the same (see below the two i got from videos).
so in essense 100's if not 1000's of people using the restore method are using the same GSF ID? isnt that dangerous to the google play account its lined to?
I am also curious whether this has to do with the backup we're restoring to the phone.
Also, i am spooked by the big G application. who knows what backdoor it maybe opening?
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The big G is the lz play exploit app. I used it to get GMS on my mate 30 Pro last year when it was still an easy fix. I have noticed nothing but I did uninstall it after the fix. Not sure about the most recent fixes? As for the G Id, this could be something like one of Microsoft bulk licensing where one product Id is put on loads of the same PCs ( Dell, HPs etc), not sure but could be something like that? It is obviously from a working account that has been backed up though and copied. But if you need to use GMS, then there is not much choice really.
Is there a working option without crutches now?
Aliexpres now sell phones with Already Installed Google Services
Sathelp said:
The big G is the lz play exploit app. I used it to get GMS on my mate 30 Pro last year when it was still an easy fix. I have noticed nothing but I did uninstall it after the fix. Not sure about the most recent fixes? As for the G Id, this could be something like one of Microsoft bulk licensing where one product Id is put on loads of the same PCs ( Dell, HPs etc), not sure but could be something like that? It is obviously from a working account that has been backed up though and copied. But if you need to use GMS, then there is not much choice really.
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Thanks for the reply.
I understand your explanation but as i read about the GSF ID its like a car license number or rather a serial # for a device. this ID could be tied to your google account or rather device serial #.
I now understand why when installing and uninstalling the framework you have to keep retrying to get the ID back...i think its a hole in the google system where it just gives up and assigns it to you.
I dont know. I feel this is dangerous that all of us are sharing one GSF ID from a backup.
If the device was able to be rooted you can generate a new one.
i am sure the people that generated this backup had rooted their device because when the device first launched there was a service to unlock the bootloader. now its no more.
this is the article i am talking about that concerns the GSF ID:
https://blog.onyxbits.de/what-exactly-is-a-gsf-id-where-do-i-get-it-from-and-why-should-i-care-2-12/
LamerOk said:
Is there a working option without crutches now?
Aliexpres now sell phones with Already Installed Google Services
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they are probably using the methods everyone is using, putting the phone back in the box and shipping it. i see no other solution. unless root and thats not possible since bootloader unlock services for the device has stopped.
That was how my mate 30 Pro arrived but I reset it and used the lzplay method when it worked back then myself for the sake of it. Good read above, I think we will have to wait a while to see what happens next.
Sathelp said:
That was how my mate 30 Pro arrived but I reset it and used the lzplay method when it worked back then myself for the sake of it. Good read above, I think we will have to wait a while to see what happens next.
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I think we should no longer hope that the USA will grant Google the authorization to work with Huawei seen the tensions between China and the US and the Covid-19 story. I have google spy services up and running since late last year and have no issue, granted my use of google apps is very limited. If we have a backdoor installed through lzplay we will never know but if you have google, wattsapp, fakebook etc installed you can be sure you will be tracked, profiled in one way or the other. That is a fact.
cfds said:
I think we should no longer hope that the USA will grant Google the authorization to work with Huawei seen the tensions between China and the US and the Covid-19 story. I have google spy services up and running since late last year and have no issue, granted my use of google apps is very limited. If we have a backdoor installed through lzplay we will never know but if you have google, wattsapp, fakebook etc installed you can be sure you will be tracked, profiled in one way or the other. That is a fact.
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So your suggestions... to get rid of Google in order not to be tracked?
the average consumer has no clue of what lzplay is doing. its the most dangerous app out there using the MDM technique (mentioned above).
today at the mall i saw a girl representative for a reseller company in my country for huawei products and she had it installed.
i warned her and told her she committed a mistake but ppl see their phones working fine and dont worry about it. you wont know if the app is sending or stealing your data...(Well, actually, you can install a firewall app and track which apps are sending data to what destination - thats one way that came to my mind)
The issue remains is: We dont know who created lzplay and made a website and made the app. thats the scary part.
Now, another perception of this could be the following:
MAYBE, just maybe the lzplay was released by huawei themselves and if so then we need not worry. i mean we run on their operating system. they would have no interest in stealing data. they can already do that ...
This is being optimistic and thinking this maybe a fact.
i, myself will not venture into this and wont attempt it. Almost all apps work fine except for one thing: Games that rely on Google play games will fail without having the GMS files installed.
I dont play games so its not a big deal for me.
besides, most games now-a-days give you the option of logging in with facebook or google play games. select facebook and you'll be fine.
cylent said:
the average consumer has no clue of what lzplay is doing. its the most dangerous app out there using the MDM technique (mentioned above).
today at the mall i saw a girl representative for a reseller company in my country for huawei products and she had it installed.
i warned her and told her she committed a mistake but ppl see their phones working fine and dont worry about it. you wont know if the app is sending or stealing your data...(Well, actually, you can install a firewall app and track which apps are sending data to what destination - thats one way that came to my mind)
The issue remains is: We dont know who created lzplay and made a website and made the app. thats the scary part.
Now, another perception of this could be the following:
MAYBE, just maybe the lzplay was released by huawei themselves and if so then we need not worry. i mean we run on their operating system. they would have no interest in stealing data. they can already do that ...
This is being optimistic and thinking this maybe a fact.
i, myself will not venture into this and wont attempt it. Almost all apps work fine except for one thing: Games that rely on Google play games will fail without having the GMS files installed.
I dont play games so its not a big deal for me.
besides, most games now-a-days give you the option of logging in with facebook or google play games. select facebook and you'll be fine.
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If anybody who is without Google will share the experience, honesty thinking of making hard reset and stay without Google...
cylent said:
the average consumer has no clue of what lzplay is doing. its the most dangerous app out there using the MDM technique (mentioned above).
today at the mall i saw a girl representative for a reseller company in my country for huawei products and she had it installed.
i warned her and told her she committed a mistake but ppl see their phones working fine and dont worry about it. you wont know if the app is sending or stealing your data...(Well, actually, you can install a firewall app and track which apps are sending data to what destination - thats one way that came to my mind)
The issue remains is: We dont know who created lzplay and made a website and made the app. thats the scary part.
Now, another perception of this could be the following:
MAYBE, just maybe the lzplay was released by huawei themselves and if so then we need not worry. i mean we run on their operating system. they would have no interest in stealing data. they can already do that ...
This is being optimistic and thinking this maybe a fact.
i, myself will not venture into this and wont attempt it. Almost all apps work fine except for one thing: Games that rely on Google play games will fail without having the GMS files installed.
I dont play games so its not a big deal for me.
besides, most games now-a-days give you the option of logging in with facebook or google play games. select facebook and you'll be fine.
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I understand your concerns and it is very valid. Over the last 4 months of usage, I have not notice any unauthorised data being sent. I had a filewall installed for removed it just a couple of weeks back.
But again, I can't be 100% sure.
Archibald1963 said:
If anybody who is without Google will share the experience, honesty thinking of making hard reset and stay without Google...
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I just do a full reset of my phone with GMS trying only using HMS. So far it's easy with phone clone and Aurora store. The only thing I miss are the notifications from Google and Twitter, but everything else is working perfect.
If you guys have specific questions concerning the GSF ID, I'd be happy to answer them. I'm the author of the aforementioned blog post, as well as several tools that deal with Google Play Services (in case you don't have/want them on your phone).
onyxbits said:
If you guys have specific questions concerning the GSF ID, I'd be happy to answer them. I'm the author of the aforementioned blog post, as well as several tools that deal with Google Play Services (in case you don't have/want them on your phone).
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Is there a way to change de GSF ID of the phone manually? For example give the GSF ID of a Samsung device that works with FCM to a Mate 30 Pro, so that the Mate 30 Pro won't have the notifications issue when GSM are installed.
Or go back to a GSF ID that works perfectly and by mistake the phone's memory has been wiped and now the GSF ID doesn't work to receive FCM notifications.
tistasis said:
Is there a way to change de GSF ID of the phone manually? For example give the GSF ID of a Samsung device that works with FCM to a Mate 30 Pro, so that the Mate 30 Pro won't have the notifications issue when GSM are installed.
Or go back to a GSF ID that works perfectly and by mistake the phone's memory has been wiped and now the GSF ID doesn't work to receive FCM notifications.
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You are not suppose to change it manually. However, you can always request a new one by clearing the cache of the market app. The GSF ID is kept in that apps database, so if you wanted to change it manually, you'd have to install the android platform tools, use ADB to pull the file (root required), use sqlite3 to make the changes (the key is called "android_id", not GSF ID for legacy reasons), then push the file back to the device. Reboot afterwards.
onyxbits said:
You are not suppose to change it manually. However, you can always request a new one by clearing the cache of the market app. The GSF ID is kept in that apps database, so if you wanted to change it manually, you'd have to install the android platform tools, use ADB to pull the file (root required), use sqlite3 to make the changes (the key is called "android_id", not GSF ID for legacy reasons), then push the file back to the device. Reboot afterwards.
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I used the Windows tools above to change the GSF ID of my un-rooted Samsung Galaxy A325G, and they worked fine... but does anyone know how the new GSFID was determined?
Is it random?
EDIT: I might be able to figure out how it's generated using "Dummy Droid".
[Tool] DummyDroid - GSF ID generator
Dummy Droid is a mainly a companion tool for the Raccoon APK Downloader . It allows you to create hardware profiles for arbitrary Android devices and upload them into your Google Play account, generating a new GSF ID in the process.
Mocks can either be generated by probing an existing device via ADB or be completely made up from scratch. You (may) need this tool if Google Play won't give you access to an app because of device incompatibilities, country or carrier restrictions. You (may) also need this tool if you are an app developer yourself and want to test compatibility filter settings without actually owning the target device.
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How difficult would be it to port the app to work on a non-samsung device? It's a really nice email app.
Just an educated guess because I don't really know...but I would assume that Samsung apps generally rely on parts of the OneUI framework as well as dependencies on other Samsung specific services. So...Possible? Maybe. Easy? Most likely not.
V0latyle said:
Just an educated guess because I don't really know...but I would assume that Samsung apps generally rely on parts of the OneUI framework as well as dependencies on other Samsung specific services. So...Possible? Maybe. Easy? Most likely not.
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Thanks for your response. I tried to install it but it keeps crashing, which can indicate incompatibility on a non-samsung device. Any other good alternatives to email apps beside gmail?
immortalwon said:
Thanks for your response. I tried to install it but it keeps crashing, which can indicate incompatibility on a non-samsung device. Any other good alternatives to email apps beside gmail?
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I personally just use Gmail, but a Google search turns up a few. K9 Mail is an open source alternative There's also a bunch on the Play Store but if you're trying to avoid dependency on Google services that might be a problem