Hello,
on the S6 it's possible to disable the Facebook app, but there are two services still running and make updates outside the Google play store, so even if I have disabled auto updates, Facebook does it!
The services are called
.com.facebook.appmanager
.com.facebook.system
How can I stop these services from starting up without root?
Thanks for your help
You simply can't
Since these are system services and anything system related cant be deactivated without root.
RockyPete said:
Hello,
on the S6 it's possible to disable the Facebook app, but there are two services still running and make updates outside the Google play store, so even if I have disabled auto updates, Facebook does it!
The services are called
.com.facebook.appmanager
.com.facebook.system
How can I stop these services from starting up without root?
Thanks for your help
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use package disabler pro app from play store. Let's you disable these as well as Samsung bloatware.
I force stopped everything with Facebook in the name (4 things), unchecked notifications and cleared data. It didn't come up in my update list. But if it comes back I'll get the package disabled app.
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The Google settings app Is no longer accessed through an app in the app drawer, but now it's nested away in settings. It's now under settings>applications>Google-settings.
It's very bothersome to have Google ask me each time if I'm sure I don't want them checking each app I download and install. I don't want it, and since you have to use Google Settings to permanently tell it to stop asking, this is the new process to do that.
Thanks! Was looking for that.
OK the title is self explanatory but lets go a bit further
I have two apps on my phone that I want to stop but primarily Facebook, I don't want them starting when the phone boots and I don't want them restarting on their own when I kill the process or stop the apps, I believe they have processes running that don't readily identify themselves as being associated with the apps so even if I kill/force stop the apps a short time later they just start up again.
I still want to be able to use the apps I choose so I don't want to uninstall or freeze them
The apps (for starters) are Facebook and ES file Explorer, I don't think ES FE is that bad and just stopping it from running on boot would be good enough but Facebook is an entirely different matter, it is extremely annoying.
Sometimes my phone heats up like it is doing a lot of work on something and when I kill facebook it all settles down
Xperia Z1 5.1.1. rooted
Geoffxx said:
OK the title is self explanatory but lets go a bit further
I have two apps on my phone that I want to stop but primarily Facebook, I don't want them starting when the phone boots and I don't want them restarting on their own when I kill the process or stop the apps, I believe they have processes running that don't readily identify themselves as being associated with the apps so even if I kill/force stop the apps a short time later they just start up again.
I still want to be able to use the apps I choose so I don't want to uninstall or freeze them
The apps (for starters) are Facebook and ES file Explorer, I don't think ES FE is that bad and just stopping it from running on boot would be good enough but Facebook is an entirely different matter, it is extremely annoying.
Sometimes my phone heats up like it is doing a lot of work on something and when I kill facebook it all settles down
Xperia Z1 5.1.1. rooted
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Greenify should do the trick.
There's also Boot manager (if you're rooted+xposed)
Freewander10 said:
Greenify should do the trick.
There's also Boot manager (if you're rooted+xposed)
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Greenfly does not achieve what I am trying to do, and boot manager does not stop facebook from loading, it is still there in my apps and running no matter what I do and if I force stop it and stop the process it is back there again later without rebooting
I suspect that facebook uses and app or process that is not readily identifiable as facebook by name and then this app or process then manages the actual facebook apps that you see running as facebook, to actually stop facebook you would need to identify this app or process to totally shut it down, so if I am right - does anyone know what this app or process is so that I can stop it and take control of facebook, I rarely use it and don't see why it needs to be running 24/7 spying on me
I am pretty sure someone on these forums know the answer
Geoffxx said:
Greenfly does not achieve what I am trying to do, and boot manager does not stop facebook from loading, it is still there in my apps and running no matter what I do and if I force stop it and stop the process it is back there again later without rebooting
I suspect that facebook uses and app or process that is not readily identifiable as facebook by name and then this app or process then manages the actual facebook apps that you see running as facebook, to actually stop facebook you would need to identify this app or process to totally shut it down, so if I am right - does anyone know what this app or process is so that I can stop it and take control of facebook, I rarely use it and don't see why it needs to be running 24/7 spying on me
I am pretty sure someone on these forums know the answer
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Any app that runs so forceably even when you try to stop it should not be on your phone.
It can be awoken by listening and reacting to any of the numerous intents on android. For example; the app could've been coded to wake up each time you open the camera/dialer/attempt to dial a number/connect to the internet and so on. Google Play Services operates in the same way.
Cutting off wake up paths in greenify should fix that. Or download 3C System Tuner and disable some of the triggering intents for the app.
Freewander10 said:
Any app that runs so forceably even when you try to stop it should not be on your phone.
It can be awoken by listening and reacting to any of the numerous intents on android. For example; the app could've been coded to wake up each time you open the camera/dialer/attempt to dial a number/connect to the internet and so on. Google Play Services operates in the same way.
Cutting off wake up paths in greenify should fix that. Or download 3C System Tuner and disable some of the triggering intents for the app.
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ok I am going to assume you hae android and facebook app installed............if not then never mind because you have nothing to contribute
if you have the facebook app installed then go ahead and look at apps and processes and try to stop it from invading your phone............good luck with that ...please report back
I have since uninstalled facebook app and will access it through my browser if and when I need to
I worked in IT all my life and I don't like facebook, in fact I don't like seeing people with their faces buried in their phones 10 hours a day, there is something very wrong going on - I love and support technology but as some experts are now saying, it is now a serious health problem and I believe them............so what does facebook have to do with this..................well by far the biggest offender, so much so that it is scary
my advice to anyone with a mobile smartphone is to uninstall the facebook app and just access it through a browser, people need to realize that while you have all these devices and various accounts apps and cookies etc etc, everything you do on every device, everything you access - everywhere you go, everything you do is being monitored and recorded.................everything and I mean EVERYTHING
you think your life is private lol
anyway I couldn't find a way to shut the facebook app down..........so I uninstalled it, not sure that will even make a difference but it is gone, no more updates every 2 days - no more overheating as FB tries to upload stuff to some cloud somewhere without my permission................it is gone
sorry for the rant
Geoffxx said:
ok I am going to assume you hae android and facebook app installed............if not then never mind because you have nothing to contribute
if you have the facebook app installed then go ahead and look at apps and processes and try to stop it from invading your phone............good luck with that ...please report back
I have since uninstalled facebook app and will access it through my browser if and when I need to
I worked in IT all my life and I don't like facebook, in fact I don't like seeing people with their faces buried in their phones 10 hours a day, there is something very wrong going on - I love and support technology but as some experts are now saying, it is now a serious health problem and I believe them............so what does facebook have to do with this..................well by far the biggest offender, so much so that it is scary
my advice to anyone with a mobile smartphone is to uninstall the facebook app and just access it through a browser, people need to realize that while you have all these devices and various accounts apps and cookies etc etc, everything you do on every device, everything you access - everywhere you go, everything you do is being monitored and recorded.................everything and I mean EVERYTHING
you think your life is private lol
anyway I couldn't find a way to shut the facebook app down..........so I uninstalled it, not sure that will even make a difference but it is gone, no more updates every 2 days - no more overheating as FB tries to upload stuff to some cloud somewhere without my permission................it is gone
sorry for the rant
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Startup Manager would come in handy but it only works for 1 boot and you need to repeat each time you want to reboot
Out of curiousty isn't freezing it better than deleting it?
And yeah the browser version is better
Geoffxx said:
ok I am going to assume you hae android and facebook app installed............if not then never mind because you have nothing to contribute
if you have the facebook app installed then go ahead and look at apps and processes and try to stop it from invading your phone............good luck with that ...please report back
I have since uninstalled facebook app and will access it through my browser if and when I need to
I worked in IT all my life and I don't like facebook, in fact I don't like seeing people with their faces buried in their phones 10 hours a day, there is something very wrong going on - I love and support technology but as some experts are now saying, it is now a serious health problem and I believe them............so what does facebook have to do with this..................well by far the biggest offender, so much so that it is scary
my advice to anyone with a mobile smartphone is to uninstall the facebook app and just access it through a browser, people need to realize that while you have all these devices and various accounts apps and cookies etc etc, everything you do on every device, everything you access - everywhere you go, everything you do is being monitored and recorded.................everything and I mean EVERYTHING
you think your life is private lol
anyway I couldn't find a way to shut the facebook app down..........so I uninstalled it, not sure that will even make a difference but it is gone, no more updates every 2 days - no more overheating as FB tries to upload stuff to some cloud somewhere without my permission................it is gone
sorry for the rant
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I have a suggestion, but you might not get notifications when you have activity on Facebook. You won't know about any Facebook activity until you actually go and check it yourself.
Here is a workaround that doesn't even involve having Facebook or Facebook Messenger installed.
Use your favorite mobile browser(I recommend Puffin Browser or Firefox, Firefox requires some setup though, explained and linked below), go to Facebook in browser, login, have it save your login info in browser.
Then, open your browser settings and find the option to add the page to your homescreen as a shortcut. Open your Facebook settings in browser, find notification settings, set it to notify you of activity via text or via email, if you choose to notify via email, use the email that you are logged into your device with. Then, open your email app, go to its settings and set it to notify you when you get an email. This setup will save battery, save space because Facebook won't be installed, have less demand on CPU and mobile data. It will also allow you to still receive your Facebook notifications without having the app installed.
A workaround for managing your Facebook messages without having Messenger installed is as follows.
When you open the Facebook shortcut that you added to homescreen, open your browser menu, tap "request desktop site", when the page reloads you can then check your messages by tapping the messenger icon at the top of the Facebook page. If you try to check messages without requesting desktop site first, it will redirect you to install messenger. An alternative to this is to use Puffin Browser or Firefox(use this to set up Firefox in automatic desktop view) or use another browser that saves login info and automatically opens pages in desktop view, this will do everything for you without having to request desktop every time you open the page, just make sure that you create the homescreen shortcut using Puffin(or whatever other browser you use that has automatic desktop site) instead of your usual browser.
All of this requires no extra apps or disabling/hibernating/greenifying any apps.
This is the setup I use for the exact same reason that you're wanting to avoid.
Does this get you anywhere close to what you're looking for?
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Droidriven said:
I have a suggestion, but you might not get notifications when you have activity on Facebook. You won't know about any Facebook activity until you actually go and check it yourself.
Here is a workaround that doesn't even involve having Facebook or Facebook Messenger installed.
Use your favorite mobile browser(I recommend Puffin Browser or Firefox, Firefox requires some setup though, explained and linked below), go to Facebook in browser, login, have it save your login info in browser.
Then, open your browser settings and find the option to add the page to your homescreen as a shortcut. Open your Facebook settings in browser, find notification settings, set it to notify you of activity via text or via email, if you choose to notify via email, use the email that you are logged into your device with. Then, open your email app, go to its settings and set it to notify you when you get an email. This setup will save battery, save space because Facebook won't be installed, have less demand on CPU and mobile data. It will also allow you to still receive your Facebook notifications without having the app installed.
A workaround for managing your Facebook messages without having Messenger installed is as follows.
When you open the Facebook shortcut that you added to homescreen, open your browser menu, tap "request desktop site", when the page reloads you can then check your messages by tapping the messenger icon at the top of the Facebook page. If you try to check messages without requesting desktop site first, it will redirect you to install messenger. An alternative to this is to use Puffin Browser or Firefox(use this to set up Firefox in automatic desktop view) or use another browser that saves login info and automatically opens pages in desktop view, this will do everything for you without having to request desktop every time you open the page, just make sure that you create the homescreen shortcut using Puffin(or whatever other browser you use that has automatic desktop site) instead of your usual browser.
All of this requires no extra apps or disabling/hibernating/greenifying any apps.
This is the setup I use for the exact same reason that you're wanting to avoid.
Does this get you anywhere close to what you're looking for?
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Yes that is what I have done, now facebook doesn't take over my device anymore lol not that I used it much in the first place
In terms of privacy google isn't much better but then they own the OS so not much can be done with that one
Geoffxx said:
Yes that is what I have done, now facebook doesn't take over my device anymore lol not that I used it much in the first place
In terms of privacy google isn't much better but then they own the OS so not much can be done with that one
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It's possible to not have Google on a device and use alternative apps with similar function. There are many members here that take their privacy very serious and uts,what they do with their devicesm
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just a little more feedback on this for those that area interested
After removing facebook (uninstalling the app) the difference in quite extraordinary, yes I have an xperia Z1 which is a couple of years old but it still does everything I need it too, removing the facebook app has made my phone lightening quick, I also no longer have the every other day massive updates and I can still access facebook through my browser when I feel like it, looks just the same responds just the same but without the massive overhead
seriously - do yourself a favour and dump that facebook app................it turned into a monster and there is a very easy solution
Geoffxx said:
just a little more feedback on this for those that area interested
After removing facebook (uninstalling the app) the difference in quite extraordinary, yes I have an xperia Z1 which is a couple of years old but it still does everything I need it too, removing the facebook app has made my phone lightening quick, I also no longer have the every other day massive updates and I can still access facebook through my browser when I feel like it, looks just the same responds just the same but without the massive overhead
seriously - do yourself a favour and dump that facebook app................it turned into a monster and there is a very easy solution
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I wish I could thank this post a dozen times. I tell people to get rid of facebook all the time. People come to this forum wondering why their battery usage is outrageous and why their device is so sluggish. Then you find out that they have Facebook and messenger installed along with Snapchat, Whatsapp, etc..
People just don't realize how much demand these social media apps put on the hardware.
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Hello,
Does anyone know how to fix the delayed google services notifications? I have tried everything but they still came late, I have a google pixel and they came on time compared to my Fold 2 this happens when the device is locked but when I unlock it the notifications start popping out.
I have tried all these settings:
Disabled Battery->Settings->Scenarios->Sleep mode
Enabled Apps->Gmail->Autostart and Changed Battery saver mode to unrestricted
Enabled all notifications for the App in question
Rooted my devices and disabled Doze with the Doze off app
ran adb shell dumpsys deviceidle disable
Nothing has worked for me , any other idea what I could do?
Thanks
I don't know what GMS notifications are but I was going insane not getting gmail notifications when my phone screen was off as well, go back and look at my posts in this forum about it.
the app DozeOff fixed it for me from the Fdroid store. If you are rooted that should fix it. I think a combo of that app plus using the systemizer magisk module and making apps I was having problems with notifications system apps fixed it, dozeoff alone may fix it if you want to try that first.
knives of ice said:
I don't know what GMS notifications are but I was going insane not getting gmail notifications when my phone screen was off as well, go back and look at my posts in this forum about it.
the app DozeOff fixed it for me from the Fdroid store. If you are rooted that should fix it. I think a combo of that app plus using the systemizer magisk module and making apps I was having problems with notifications system apps fixed it, dozeoff alone may fix it if you want to try that first.
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GMS = Google Mobile Services, I have the dozeoff app installed but that alone didn't fix the issue, I'll try systemizing the apps.
Thanks!!
GMS is a framework, not an app. There are two basic frameworks on Android devices - GMS (Google Mobile Services) and HMS (Huawei Mobile Services). These frameworks must be installed on your device for apps from those respective infrastructures to work. GMS is backed into the firmware on Xiaomi CN ROMS, but it is not turned on by default. Search "Google" in your settings and you find "Google Basic Services". Turn it on. After that step, if you are not receiving instant notifications for particular Google apps, such as Gmail, you may want to use a different app. Email notifications using the Gmail app are notoriously slow on this device, as are Google email accounts accessed using the Outlook email app. The workaround for delayed Gmail notifications is to use an app called Edison Mail. Gmail accounts set up in Edison Mail get instant notifications. What other Google apps are you experiencing delayed notifications on?
frcraig said:
GMS is a framework, not an app. There are two basic frameworks on Android devices - GMS (Google Mobile Services) and HMS (Huawei Mobile Services). These frameworks must be installed on your device for apps from those respective infrastructures to work. GMS is backed into the firmware on Xiaomi CN ROMS, but it is not turned on by default. Search "Google" in your settings and you find "Google Basic Services". Turn it on. After that step, if you are not receiving instant notifications for particular Google apps, such as Gmail, you may want to use a different app. Email notifications using the Gmail app are notoriously slow on this device, as are Google email accounts accessed using the Outlook email app. The workaround for delayed Gmail notifications is to use an app called Edison Mail. Gmail accounts set up in Edison Mail get instant notifications. What other Google apps are you experiencing delayed notifications on?
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Thank you for the clarification. The "Google Basic Services" has been enabled all the time and the issue persists, I also have notification issues with the Google Home app they are not arriving on time(I have Nest Security cameras) of course that app also uses the GMS framework for push notifications.
Thanks
Have you put your phone in developer mode and disabled optimizations?
rcs1000 said:
Have you put your phone in developer mode and disabled optimizations?
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Where to find this optimizations menu?
Go to main Settings on your Xiaomi device. Scroll down to find About Device/Phone and tap on it. Locate MIUI Version and tap several times on it. After that, you will get a message "You're now a developer!" on your device screen. Go back into Settings and you will now see Developer Options. Scroll down to the bottom of those options and toggle off Miui Optimizations.