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my last g2x battery lasted like 4 hrs on a full charge what is the best way to charge the new one? do i let the battery run out then charge it?
When you first get a phone, you should let the battery die before charing it. Then charge it completely after it dies, this will maximize your battery life. If you charge it right out the box, you're actually reducing the amount of juice the battery can hold.
rashad1 said:
When you first get a phone, you should let the battery die before charing it. Then charge it completely after it dies, this will maximize your battery life. If you charge it right out the box, you're actually reducing the amount of juice the battery can hold.
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That's not really accurate. Lithium Ion batteries have no memory effect like older batteries so charging them from halfway full does not reduce the maximum capacity.
What happens is the phone needs to learn to measure the amount of mAh from the phone and recognize what battery % that means. By taking the phone through the full discharging and charging cycle, the battery drivers pick up on this and will better report the battery level. With a poorly calibrated battery, you do not get less battery, but instead you just will not see accurate information about the charge level. For example, my first discharge went quickly to about 10%, and even quickly below 5%, but stayed on for hours between 5% to eventually shutting off.
The battery still will not die faster, but my phone thought it was much lower than it was, giving it the appearance of dying faster. Point is, you can do the charge/discharge cycle whenever, not just the first time, and it won't effect your long term battery health.
1) do factory reset
2) drain completely
3) charge completely
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thanks everyone for your advice!
I think it really depends on who you ask. lol Some people will say let it drain first then charge it fully. I have read info on battery maker sites that suggest when you get their battery that you let it charge fully for at least 8 hours, then let it discharge fully. They say to do this the first 5 charges to increase battery life.
When I get a new phone or battery that's what I do. as soon as I get it I charge it up overnight, then let it discharge completely for the first 5 charges. I can only speak by my experience and my experience tells me it makes a difference. Here is my reasoning: me and my ex gf went one day to get new phones. We got the same phone. She started using hers as soon as we left the store. I waited. I charged it up overnight fully and did the conditioning procedure. Our phones were pretty much mirrors of each other app and software wise. Her battery would die out a couple of hours before mine. Battery usage also didnt report any HUGE differences in consumption .
Also every once and a while I go into Clockwork recovery and wipe battery stats(after it's been fully discharged) and re do the conditioning process. It might just be a mental thing, but for me this seems to work
supposedly from htc.....
1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more 2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour 3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour Your battery life should almost double, we have tested this on our devices and other agents have seen a major difference as well
I heard/read somewhere that you should never let a lithium ion battery fully discharge. It supposedly shortens its lifespan every time you fully discharge it. Instead, you are suppose to just top it off and not let it remain on the charger, for extended periods of time, once its reached a full charge. YMMV
*Omnipresent* said:
I heard/read somewhere that you should never let a lithium ion battery fully discharge. It supposedly shortens its lifespan every time you fully discharge it. Instead, you are suppose to just top it off and not let it remain on the charger, for extended periods of time, once its reached a full charge. YMMV
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This is "more" true for everyday normal usage. Yes, you shouldn't constantly fully charge and fully discharge every time you use your phone. But for battery calibration it is necessary/beneficial.
I also hard that during the first charge after turning the phone off you have to strange on your head for ten minutes, then only use your left hand for the rest of the day and you will double your battery life
rashad1 said:
When you first get a phone, you should let the battery die before charing it. Then charge it completely after it dies, this will maximize your battery life. If you charge it right out the box, you're actually reducing the amount of juice the battery can hold.
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Well I did it this way too. I get good batt
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Hi, Getting close to 2 years on my gs4. The battery doesn't seem to hold the charge like before. How often do we need to replace the battery?
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Hi, Getting close to 2 years on my gs4. The battery doesn't seem to hold the charge like before. How often do we need to replace the battery?
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I don't think there is really a set time, its just that when it starts to go just replace it.
I'd usually do it within 18 months so you're on time for a replacement. Batteries don't last too long which is why buying a sealed battery phone is ridiculous imo.
Depends a lot on how you charged it over the years. Some people say it's better to charge those kind of batteries often and don't let them get below 20% or 50%. And If you use your phone while it' charging, that also decreases the life of the battery. High heat or cold also take some time off the battery's life.
Even if you do take good care of the battery, it will inevitably lose it's capacity over the years.
crazyguns said:
I'd usually do it within 18 months so you're on time for a replacement. Batteries don't last too long which is why buying a sealed battery phone is ridiculous imo.
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I feel the same way. But maybe nowadays ppl change phones pretty quickly, so by the time the battery's about to die, they're already getting a new one.
I have been using my phone for almost 2 years, and it already loses its charge so i decided to change it. I think it depends on your usage, if you use it for heavy use, it will loses its charge faster.
I bought new original battery after 12months of using old one,with daily usage i can get around 5hours of screen time
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Well after 2 years, any good old battery will be singing on the last verse so to speak. Time to change it. Just normal!
My phone is about two years old now and I thought I needed a new battery. Instead I picked up a new samsung charger (the one that ships with the Note 4). I don't know if it's because of the increased voltage output but my phone seems to hold a charge better - and charge faster!
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Hi, Getting close to 2 years on my gs4. The battery doesn't seem to hold the charge like before. How often do we need to replace the battery?
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For me & my phone habits, it's usually after 15 months. On my N5, I put in a fresh battery after 18 months.
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In general, the deeper you discharge the battery, the fewer times the battery will recharge. If you use your phone heavily, and always drain to 0% almost daily, that will result in a battery that will stop holding it's charge very quickly. However, if you don't use your phone heavily, or have access to a charger throughout the day to top up your battery long before it crosses 50%, then it will typically last a lot longer.
The fact that you notice a significant loss in battery performance, most likely means that the battery has either lost significant life, or at least significant enough to how you use your phone.
You may try the "Battery Calibration" app from google play store.
it's free but require root access.
This app remove the batterystats.bin system file. The OS generates a new clean batterystats file soon.
It's like you're refreshing your battery...
Calibration needs to be done after flashing a new ROM, but you can calibrate any time you think your battery is miscalibrated.
I use this app myself and it's great...
hope this help..
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Read the last paragraph. Battery calibration apps don't do anything except generate a placebo effect and screw up your battery stats. To maximize battery life, you want to examine what processes are running and kill the ones you don't want to run, using Greenify or Autostarts.
I decided to replace battery after 15 month of intense use.
My S4 had the same problem. I reset the battery stats, and after that it works great now. Battery easily lasts for a full day.
Here's how you do it.
*Let the battery discharge while doing normal routine stuff, until it switches off.
*Turn it on again and use it some more till it switches off again. Repeat, until it wont turn on any longer.
* Remove the battery and hold the power key for 30 secs or so with battery removed(I do it for upto a minute)
* Install the battery and close it up and now connect the charger.
Let the battery charge to 100% WITHOUT turning the phone on.
*After 100% is reached, turn the device on and disconnect the cable and use it as you normally do.
DO NOT RECHARGE in between and let it discharge completely or till the point, it'll just be about to turn off, then connect the charger.
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sohail99 said:
My S4 had the same problem. I reset the battery stats, and after that it works great now. Battery easily lasts for a full day.
Here's how you do it.
*Let the battery discharge while doing normal routine stuff, until it switches off.
*Turn it on again and use it some more till it switches off again. Repeat, until it wont turn on any longer.
* Remove the battery and hold the power key for 30 secs or so with battery removed(I do it for upto a minute)
* Install the battery and close it up and now connect the charger.
Let the battery charge to 100% WITHOUT turning the phone on.
*After 100% is reached, turn the device on and disconnect the cable and use it as you normally do.
DO NOT RECHARGE in between and let it discharge completely or till the point, it'll just be about to turn off, then connect the charger.
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I've repeted this steps three times and it looked great!
I more than a year... 1 hour of screen
Calibrate your battery. . If you don't have the app .. charge til you get to 100% unplug charger then turn off phone, plug in charger while phone is off. . Charge until it's green. . Unplug and turn your phone on. . Repeat that process 1 more time and it will work
I just bought a new OEM battery from Samsung. What should i do first? Charge it with phone turned off to full then discharge it to 0 and then charge again to max? Do this one time or 3? maybe there is some article about what u should or shouldn't do when u get a brand new battery?
Hello sohail
My s4 has only average battery timing. Which is not enough for me. Plz suggest me some solution.
How many charge/discharge cycles should I expect to get from my S6?
I got the phone in April, and since then I have used it for both business and private use.
I charge it overnight wirelessly, take it to work fully charged, then discharge and recharge it twice whilst at work (using the Samsung charger that came with it), then put it on charge for a 3rd time when I get home ready for the next day.
Fast forward 9 months and already I am seeing reduced battery life... Is this to be expected from 3 charge/discharge cycles per day, 6 days a week?
I've never seen this as a problem until now, as all my phones have either had removable batteries, or were only on 12 month contracts and were replaced before the battery became too worn.
Is it worth trying to get a battery replacement under the 12 month warranty before it runs out?
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Fast forward 9 months and already I am seeing reduced battery life...
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please clarify what you mean by "reduced battery life". Any phone will suffer reduced battery life to some degree after 9 months.
How low do you let the battery go before charging? Some say it's not good to constantly recharge when the battery is not low (above 50%)? Others say that doesn't apply to newer phones with better battery tech. I don't know.
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please clarify what you mean by "reduced battery life". Any phone will suffer reduced battery life to some degree after 9 months.
How low do you let the battery go before charging? Some say it's not good to constantly recharge when the battery is not low (above 50%)? Others say that doesn't apply to newer phones with better battery tech. I don't know.
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I generally run it down to 15% when the battery warning comes on... Very rarely to 5% when the critical warning comes on.
When I take it off charge, after about half an hour of screen time, it's down to 80-85 already, then I can get about another 2 hours of heavy use and constant screen time before it's dead again.
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How many charge/discharge cycles should I expect to get from my S6?
I got the phone in April, and since then I have used it for both business and private use.
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Read somewhere reliable some time back that it's somewhere between 500-600 cycles before you see any degradation.. And I think there's something in the warranty which covers reduced battery life within 1st year provided you can prove it which basically means very rare!
Hi.
I charge my phone overnight. 8 hours. Will that degrade the battery? Or does the phone prevent over charging?
Thanks in advance.
I wouldn't worry about it
No, if you leave it on 16 hours you'll get 200% battery level. Brilliant
RogerNZ said:
Hi.
I charge my phone overnight. 8 hours. Will that degrade the battery? Or does the phone prevent over charging?
Thanks in advance.
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The phone prevents overcharging, however it is still not good for the battery to
a) always charge it to 100%
b) keep it at 100% for 8hours
The general advice is to keep the battery between 20 - 80%. Granted, most people need a full charge to start the day and some people don't hold on to their phones for long.
Fast charging degenerates the battery faster, a fact oems omit to point out in their quest for faster charging speeds.
If you're not in a rush, you should just use a normal charger.
No damage done
And any long term effects will not be noticeable
By the time you notice any battery degeneration from keeping it at 100% you'd probably be on another phone.
hi are you rooted? if so I suggest you use an app called Battery Charge Limit. You can set when your device stops charging (preferably at 80%) and when it starts charging back up again. Again, you need root.
Since launch, most of the time I do 20-80%. So far so good
I have always charged my phones to 100%, this 85% thing is very new to me.
I've never heard about it before until I saw it in my S22 ULTRA.
What are the benefits of charging only to 85%? Does it last as much as with 100%?
Does it really recommended to charge it up to 85%? Im not an heavy user, but also I'm not changing my phone once a year, I'm changing it one time in 3-4 years.
Also, I tried to never charge my phone at night, and trying to catch the battery not lower than 10-15 percent to charge.
So basically, it bothers me a little bit in the eye to see that the phone is only about 85%, because that way basically the battery will run out much faster(significantly, yesterday 10% went down in 45 minutes, which means I'll lose 45 minutes from battery usage for nothing).
So, my question is, is it really worth it? Is there a significant difference between the two options? I'd love your help, thank you all!
The 85% is to protect and prolong the battery life. I agree that you will loose 15% of battery time if not charging to 100%. I charge to 100% and when battery is 10 - 15 I charge to full. I guess on the long run it's better for the battery to only charge to 85%, but I change phones every year or 2, so I'm not to worried about prolonging the battery life
Set low limit at 30-40%
Top limit of 72-85% is better.
Li's love frequent midrange power cycling.
Start charge temperature is important to prevent Li plating. Battery should be at least at 72F, 82-90F is better. Cool if charging temperature goes above 99F. Never charge in direct sunlight.
Never attempt to charge at 40F or lower
Avoid having the screen on while changing.
When using, turn phone off if battery temperature reaches 100F or cool it.
Replacing the battery isn't a big deal unless you don't do it on a timely basis. When an Li has reached 80% of it's original capacity it's reached the end of it's useful service life and is degraded.
Degraded Li's are more likely to fail which can heavily damage the phone. Any swelling is a failure replace immediately.
High voltage , temperature and current drain stress the battery. Other than avoiding low temperature charging and going to either low/high extreme voltage ranges constantly I wouldn't worry about it too much.
I now replace my heavily used Note 10+ battery every year or so to avoid another failure, routine maintenance. Batteries are cheap and relatively easy to replace.
blackhawk said:
Set low limit at 30-40%
Top limit of 72-85% is better.
Li's love frequent midrange power cycling.
Start charge temperature is important to prevent Li plating. Battery should be at least at 72F, 82-90F is better. Cool if charging temperature goes above 99F. Never charge in direct sunlight.
Never attempt to charge at 40F or lower
Avoid having the screen on while changing.
When using, turn phone off if battery temperature reaches 100F or cool it.
Replacing the battery isn't a big deal unless you don't do it on a timely basis. When an Li has reached 80% of it's original capacity it's reached the end of it's useful service life and is degraded.
Degraded Li's are more likely to fail which can heavily damage the phone. Any swelling is a failure replace immediately.
High voltage , temperature and current drain stress the battery. Other than avoiding low temperature charging and going to either low/high extreme voltage ranges constantly I wouldn't worry about it too much.
I now replace my heavily used Note 10+ battery every year or so to avoid another failure, routine maintenance. Batteries are cheap and relatively easy to replace.
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So, I understand that it recommended to charge up to 85%? :-D
I searched on google to buy a S22 ultra battery that will keep in home until I need it, but couldn't find one.
maor23 said:
I have always charged my phones to 100%, this 85% thing is very new to me.
I've never heard about it before until I saw it in my S22 ULTRA.
What are the benefits of charging only to 85%? Does it last as much as with 100%?
Does it really recommended to charge it up to 85%? Im not an heavy user, but also I'm not changing my phone once a year, I'm changing it one time in 3-4 years.
Also, I tried to never charge my phone at night, and trying to catch the battery not lower than 10-15 percent to charge.
So basically, it bothers me a little bit in the eye to see that the phone is only about 85%, because that way basically the battery will run out much faster(significantly, yesterday 10% went down in 45 minutes, which means I'll lose 45 minutes from battery usage for nothing).
So, my question is, is it really worth it? Is there a significant difference between the two options? I'd love your help, thank you all!
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If you can last to bedtime on an 85% charge then fine use that setting if you intend to keep the device for 3 years or longer.
If (like me) you need 100% charge to get through the day, continue charging to 100% and dont worry.
I have been using mobile phones for 25 years and I charge overnight as I sleep. I have NEVER had a battery failure or problems.
Life is short, enjoy your new phone
P.S. If you are worried about stressing the battery by charging to 100%, I suggest you also disable Fast-Charging as that is WORSE for a battery cell than 100% vs 85% iMHO.
I used to charge my Note 10+ to 100%, every day plug it while in my car or plug it to my laptop now and then. After 2 years of use battery health was 89%.
On my Lenovo laptop I stop charging at 60% as suggested by Lenovo vantage. Bull****. Battery lasts a lot less after one year. Almost the half.
Enjoy your gadgets and mobiles. Anyway after 2 years most of us get a new one.
blackhawk said:
Set low limit at 30-40%
Top limit of 72-85% is better.
Li's love frequent midrange power cycling.
Start charge temperature is important to prevent Li plating. Battery should be at least at 72F, 82-90F is better. Cool if charging temperature goes above 99F. Never charge in direct sunlight.
Never attempt to charge at 40F or lower
Avoid having the screen on while changing.
When using, turn phone off if battery temperature reaches 100F or cool it.
Replacing the battery isn't a big deal unless you don't do it on a timely basis. When an Li has reached 80% of it's original capacity it's reached the end of it's useful service life and is degraded.
Degraded Li's are more likely to fail which can heavily damage the phone. Any swelling is a failure replace immediately.
High voltage , temperature and current drain stress the battery. Other than avoiding low temperature charging and going to either low/high extreme voltage ranges constantly I wouldn't worry about it too much.
I now replace my heavily used Note 10+ battery every year or so to avoid another failure, routine maintenance. Batteries are cheap and relatively easy to replace.
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how does one set low limit?
i have a smart plug i use for my charger, only on long enough to charge phone from 20% to 85% (battery setting limit enabled).
i usually charge at 30% to 85%.
Slade8525 said:
how does one set low limit?
i have a smart plug i use for my charger, only on long enough to charge phone from 20% to 85% (battery setting limit enabled).
i usually charge at 30% to 85%.
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I just do it by eye. It's not rocket science.
Accubattery lets you set an alarm if you want.
maor23 said:
So, I understand that it recommended to charge up to 85%? :-D
I searched on google to buy a S22 ultra battery that will keep in home until I need it, but couldn't find one.
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Keeping a spare isn't a good plan as Li's start to degrade as soon as assembled. So after a year or more of sitting there it will have lost some of its initial capacity.
They should became easier in the future.
Any solution to modify the protect level?
"protect battery level 90%, 95% mod instead of 85%"
85% seem to be very short time of using
For anybody wanting to change the limit from 85% to lets say 90%, you can use the App called Galaxy Max Hz, you can find it on this forum : https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ods-qs-tiles-tasker-support-and-more.4404929/
One of the options is to change the battery charge limit, on the lock screen it will still say : "Charging stopped at 85%" even though the battery is at 90% as set in Galaxy Max Hz
coolpixs4 said:
Any solution to modify the protect level?
"protect battery level 90%, 95% mod instead of 85%"
85% seem to be very short time of using
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85% is actually rather on the high side. Either correct the excessive battery drain or replace the battery. When an Li reaches 80% of its original capacity it's reached the end of its usable service life. It's degraded at that point. Degraded Li's are much more likely to fail. Any battery swelling is a failure.
My device does not have 'protect battery' toogle on quick settings
SS22+ OneUI4.1
coolpixs4 said:
Any solution to modify the protect level?
"protect battery level 90%, 95% mod instead of 85%"
85% seem to be very short time of using
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bixby probably
Actually, the protection level should be 80% or less to maximize the battery’s useful life.
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bixby probably
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coolpixs4 said:
Any solution to modify the protect level?
"protect battery level 90%, 95% mod instead of 85%"
85% seem to be very short time of using
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verszipo said:
For anybody wanting to change the limit from 85% to lets say 90%, you can use the App called Galaxy Max Hz, you can find it on this forum : https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ods-qs-tiles-tasker-support-and-more.4404929/
One of the options is to change the battery charge limit, on the lock screen it will still say : "Charging stopped at 85%" even though the battery is at 90% as set in Galaxy Max Hz
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freco said:
I used to charge my Note 10+ to 100%, every day plug it while in my car or plug it to my laptop now and then. After 2 years of use battery health was 89%.
On my Lenovo laptop I stop charging at 60% as suggested by Lenovo vantage. Bull****. Battery lasts a lot less after one year. Almost the half.
Enjoy your gadgets and mobiles. Anyway after 2 years most of us get a new one.
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I use the 60% protection on my Lenovo as they suggested and gess what, after 8 years my battery still works fine, and lasts for 2h/3h. I used my laptop every workday on heavy use, and it's the most cheap line, it cost me 300€ in 2015 (Lenovo G50-30 Celeron N2840). It's all day pluged, but when i need to use on battery it's fine!
So i realy think this battery protection works, and my S22 Ultra it's for last at least 5 years, and the 85% it's enough to run my workday.
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I use the 60% protection on my Lenovo as they suggested and gess what, after 8 years my battery still works fine, and lasts for 2h/3h. I used my laptop every workday on heavy use, and it's the most cheap line, it cost me 300€ in 2015 (Lenovo G50-30 Celeron N2840). It's all day pluged, but when i need to use on battery it's fine!
So i realy think this battery protection works, and my S22 Ultra it's for last at least 5 years, and the 85% it's enough to run my workday.
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Maybe. Depends on usage. On my N10+ which is heavily used with frequent charge cycling from 40-60% to 72 to 85% most times I get about 2 years out of a battery. Higher battery temperature shortens the lifespan as well. Fast charging is more stressful as is using the device right after a fast charge. High current drain while in use is also stressful; optimize the device to increase SOT and battery lifespan.
Frequent partial charge power cycling can extent the typical 200 full charge cycles to 800 or more. A partial charge is not a full charge cycle.
Start charge temperature matters.
It's an electrochemical reaction, heat is required for it to charge properly!
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Never attempt to charge if near freezing
Fast charging will not engage if battery temperature is below about 55F to protect the battery.
Charging below 72F or above 103F can cause Li plating which will permanently degrade the cell.
Optimum start temperature is 82-90F, cutoff is 100-102F max. Cool if needed.
Regardless of service time replace the Li when it reaches 80% of its original capacity. At 80% it's reached the end of its service life and is considered degraded. Degraded Li's are more likely to fail
Any swelling is a failure and it can destroy the device. Battery replacement isn't hard or expensive. Just part of routine maintenance...
maor23 said:
I have always charged my phones to 100%, this 85% thing is very new to me.
I've never heard about it before until I saw it in my S22 ULTRA.
What are the benefits of charging only to 85%? Does it last as much as with 100%?
Does it really recommended to charge it up to 85%? Im not an heavy user, but also I'm not changing my phone once a year, I'm changing it one time in 3-4 years.
Also, I tried to never charge my phone at night, and trying to catch the battery not lower than 10-15 percent to charge.
So basically, it bothers me a little bit in the eye to see that the phone is only about 85%, because that way basically the battery will run out much faster(significantly, yesterday 10% went down in 45 minutes, which means I'll lose 45 minutes from battery usage for nothing).
So, my question is, is it really worth it? Is there a significant difference between the two options? I'd love your help, thank you all!
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Here is a good article why it's recommended to not load the batt to 100%
How to maximize battery life: Charging habits and other tips
If you've ever wondered what the best way to charge your battery is, here are some scientifically proven tips for maximizing battery life.
www.androidauthority.com
Personally i just keep the load between 65% and around 20-30%. Only if i know that i will leave the house longer than 4 hours I do a 85% load or 100% if i want to film and take photos. But this rarely happens.