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Samsung Confirms Lollipop 5.0 Updates For Galaxy S4

Feeling Happy . Good News
Below The List It Shows : The next version of Android: 5.0 Lollipop
http://www.samsung.com/fi/info/update.html#mobile
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_to_bring_lollipop_to_s4_note_2_and_others-news-10566.php

I've had lollipop on my s4 for a week thanks to ib4stid

Coming December 2015!
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Punisher420 said:
I've had lollipop on my s4 for a week thanks to ib4stid
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Was it easy to do on your AT&T S4??? Was everything working Wifi and connect to ATT Ok???

Neontc said:
Coming December 2015!
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Lol more like December 2016 with the way at&t lags with updates.

Punisher420 said:
I've had lollipop on my s4 for a week thanks to ib4stid
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StoneyJSG said:
Lol more like December 2016 with the way at&t lags with updates.
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Amen on SLOW AT&T UPDATES

Everything worked perfect first try

Punisher420 said:
Everything worked perfect first try
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You must be referring to kangapop? I wish I could try it.

Murasakiii said:
You must be referring to kangapop? I wish I could try it.
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Me as well, I ran @iB4STiD rom's for a long time then was forced into an update which locked my phone up so now I'm safestrapped for life. Really don't mind nj4 just want Lollipop. I have it on my Nexus 7 and with the update to 5.0.2 it's running smooth and quick.

Ask the important questions, man!
Does Samsung plan to unlock the i337 bootloaders with the lollipop update!?

VladimirMan93 said:
Does Samsung plan to unlock the i337 bootloaders with the lollipop update!?
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It's AT&T locking them not Sammy.

~wolverine~ said:
It's AT&T locking them not Sammy.
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I have an alleged i9505 with an AT&T BL.
however, the droid os belongs to samsung since they're the ones doing the edits, fixes and customization.

VladimirMan93 said:
I have an alleged i9505 with an AT&T BL.
however, the droid os belongs to samsung since they're the ones doing the edits, fixes and customization.
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The issue is AT&T says we will buy it if you lock it to us so we can keep our customers and make it more of a chore to leave our company. Samsung says ok because we want the sales and that's why it's done... Samsung can care less once they sell you the phone what you do with it and they already built ways to know what you did to the phone for warranty returns. (So they can deny the claims that are caused by you not listening.)
If you want to get mad at anyone get mad at AT&T just like verizon they play every trick in the book.
That's why if you buy a phone full price you always go international version

BehrendsTech said:
The issue is AT&T says we will buy it if you lock it to us so we can keep our customers and make it more of a chore to leave our company. Samsung says ok because we want the sales and that's why it's done... Samsung can care less once they sell you the phone what you do with it and they already built ways to know what you did to the phone for warranty returns. (So they can deny the claims that are caused by you not listening.)
If you want to get mad at anyone get mad at AT&T just like verizon they play every trick in the book.
That's why if you buy a phone full price you always go international version
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It is supose to be unlocked I had the same phone i9505 with i337 bootloader it came that way from the factory at Vietnam cause I bought it brand new,

Albie_Stark said:
It is supose to be unlocked I had the same phone i9505 with i337 bootloader it came that way from the factory at Vietnam cause I bought it brand new,
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I have heard of that happening from people that buy online but I don't know much about them I believe someone in one of the threads (that was an at&t or samsung source) said they were at&t branded internationals (meaning they were to be sold through at&t for corporate or maybe coverage outside the US?, though I don't know much more because I only stay up to date on the US versions
If you just bought it you might want to check your buying source (example amazon will give you a new phone if you buy the international that's meant to be used with several carriers), if you have owned it for awhile then you're in the same boat as the rest of us.
I don't think the bootloader will ever be unlocked unless..
A law requires them too...
Someone finally finds a exploit (which because less likely as more people switch to newer phones)
They have a security leak like Sony where the key is discovered.

BehrendsTech said:
I have heard of that happening from people that buy online but I don't know much about them I believe someone in one of the threads (that was an at&t or samsung source) said they were at&t branded internationals (meaning they were to be sold through at&t for corporate or maybe coverage outside the US?, though I don't know much more because I only stay up to date on the US versions
If you just bought it you might want to check your buying source (example amazon will give you a new phone if you buy the international that's meant to be used with several carriers), if you have owned it for awhile then you're in the same boat as the rest of us.
I don't think the bootloader will ever be unlocked unless..
A law requires them too...
Someone finally finds a exploit (which because less likely as more people switch to newer phones)
They have a security leak like Sony where the key is discovered.
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OMG!! I supouse that.... but it is ok for me, my phone was manufactured on 11-28-14,I bought it on december 12 if you want to see the whole story look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/help/bought-i9505-china-i337-bootloader-t2985230
@VladimirMan93 the answer to our pain

BehrendsTech said:
That's why if you buy a phone full price you always go international version
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Or at the very least stop the store worker from updating it when you first activate it. When I bought mine she took it out of the box, turned it on and immediately accepted the update notification and installed it after it downloaded when she put the screen protector on..

@Apoplectic1
You should have made her give you different one. I do not and will not allow a store clerk to setup or mess with a phone I'm buying. :good:

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@Apoplectic1
You should have made her give you different one. I do not and will not allow a store clerk to setup or mess with a phone I'm buying. :good:
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I would have had I known that AT&T locked their bootloaders. This is the first phone that I have owned that had one, and until I tried to mess around with it I had no idea that one could lock a bootloader.

Sadly, I won't be able to get the Lollipop update unless I want my phone locked down forever because I am one of the few people that is still on the MDL firmware which can use the LOKI bootloader bypass to boot custom ROMs.

LG G4 AT&T

I just walked out of my local att store. The theme settings are there unlike on Verizon but the usual flood of bloat apps are all there. It's as bad as a go phone. None would let me Uninstall and several are also unable to be disabled such as the stock Twitter app. I looked at the storage setting and a fresh G4 has over 1.2GB of apps installed with only 21GB free space.

Wait for root. And just kick them out.

Root will do it sure, but for now I'm holding off getting it. If the att model gets root that will be enough for me. Having Google play edition m7 and m8 had just spoiled me to much I guess..

Here is hoping for a root very shortly. I am due for an upgrade and it is either the G4 with root 8 wait for the new Nexus phones. Currently nothing else on the market meets my requirements, that could change of course.

Acill said:
I just walked out of my local att store. The theme settings are there unlike on Verizon but the usual flood of bloat apps are all there. It's as bad as a go phone. None would let me Uninstall and several are also unable to be disabled such as the stock Twitter app. I looked at the storage setting and a fresh G4 has over 1.2GB of apps installed with only 21GB free space.
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Strange you can't disable twitter. I was able to.
I think the only things I couldn't disable were a couple LG apps. Overall, bloat isn't a big deal for me as long as it isn't using resources or draining battery.
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So why did you buy the AT&T version instead of the unlocked version if you hate bloat so much?

I didnt end up getting it, still debating on it. I only tried the demo at the AT%T store, but would think its the same as a retail one. Strange that Twitter gives an error when you select to disable it. Glad thats not the case on a retail model though.

I hate bloat and branding but settled for the ATT version because it was easier to come but and ultimately, more compatible with their network.
Every ATT app can be disabled except for their Address Book and Remote support. Really not that big of a deal.
I do hate that apps like Twitter, Uber, and Amazon get bundled in. I've never used Twitter or Uber and prefer to use Amazon's site.

Sammae7 said:
I hate bloat and branding but settled for the ATT version because it was easier to come but and ultimately, more compatible with their network.
Every ATT app can be disabled except for their Address Book and Remote support. Really not that big of a deal.
I do hate that apps like Twitter, Uber, and Amazon get bundled in. I've never used Twitter or Uber and prefer to use Amazon's site.
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Amazon is the only one of those I use, but I never understand why they put a different Amazon app preloaded on phones. I disable it and get the one from the play store.

Ordered a black leather one today. Can't wait to get it and root it. If it's half as good as my Nexus 5 that finally died, I'll be happy.

Anybody k,ow when root might find,out

Phurkus said:
Anybody k,ow when root might find,out
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All the TAR files seem to be available now so maybe it's being worked on.

Got mine from AT&T. Seems decent so far. Looking forward to root, whenever it comes out.
Until then, I'm trying to make sense of how to best work with DNG files.

Just came from my AT&T store almost bought it but I'll wait til root is confirmed. I almost got stuck with that note 4 last year I'll never buy a phone again before it has confirmed root
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Lg G4 at&t bricked
greetings to all , I need help, my Lg g4 H810 is bricked , please can anyone help.
Ineed G4 H810 Kdz.
Thanks for any help.

I thought lollipop was supposed to fix this? Bloatware is supposed to be downloaded depending on your sim into the user app partition. But of course everyone always chooses to ignore Google guidelines
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I believe Lollipop only does that on Google devices, which ultimately, is pointless. I was excited for that aspect, too.

Sammae7 said:
I hate bloat and branding but settled for the ATT version because it was easier to come but and ultimately, more compatible with their network.
Every ATT app can be disabled except for their Address Book and Remote support. Really not that big of a deal.
I do hate that apps like Twitter, Uber, and Amazon get bundled in. I've never used Twitter or Uber and prefer to use Amazon's site.
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The international version supports AT&T's LTE bands (2, 4, 5, 17). You will probably lose VoLTE support though.

It also doesn't support band 30, AT&T's new upcoming band. AT&T version does.
Ultimately, I went for what was readily available to me.

Verizon Pixel debloating

Getting a used Verizon Pixel soon as backup/google home/project fi activation unit. So I'm learning about the situations here. It seems although people are able to unlock it and flash to stock firmware, it's still not possible to get stock OTA after all... right? I know I can do everything I want with it as is, but I still prefer a clean system... So if total debloat is not possible, is there an app or anything like Package Disabler for Pixels?

jnrfalcon said:
Getting a used Verizon Pixel soon as backup/google home/project fi activation unit soon. So I'm learning about the situations here. It seems although people are able to unlock it and flash to stock firmware, it's still not possible to get stock OTA after all... right? I know I can do everything I want with it as is, but I still prefer a clean system... So if total debloat is not possible, is there an app or anything like Package Disabler for Pixels?
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Just go to apps and unistall the apps you don't want. They are not locked in there like the old days.

jnrfalcon said:
Getting a used Verizon Pixel soon as backup/google home/project fi activation unit. So I'm learning about the situations here. It seems although people are able to unlock it and flash to stock firmware, it's still not possible to get stock OTA after all... right? I know I can do everything I want with it as is, but I still prefer a clean system... So if total debloat is not possible, is there an app or anything like Package Disabler for Pixels?
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There really isn't that much bloat anymore as it is... None of those ridiculous Verizon apps that no one ever used exist.
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tfly212 said:
There really isn't that much bloat anymore as it is... None of those ridiculous Verizon apps that no one ever used exist.
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Thanks guys. But is Verizon really keeping up with Google? Or do they drop one or two versions every some time...

jnrfalcon said:
Thanks guys. But is Verizon really keeping up with Google? Or do they drop one or two versions every some time...
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The updates come regularly, but are usually a couple weeks behind the standard update. There is a Verizon specific version of each monthly release... You can see them all on the Google download page. Curious to see how it goes with Android O getting released Monday though... Might be a bigger delay there. We will see.
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jnrfalcon said:
Thanks guys. But is Verizon really keeping up with Google? Or do they drop one or two versions every some time...
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Sit down for this answer it will knock you off your feet.
They are actually a few hours ahead. Both Google and VZ release on the first Monday of the month late morning. But since VZ is east coast they start dropping sooner.
Also, Google makes the VZ versions so they are available for download from Googles dev site....same time as the plain Google version. And its all different on this phone, the VZ version just has some radio and network changes. There is no bloat in it. You actually get that from VZ when you put the VZ SIM in it. I got it on my Google version when I put the SIM in it.
And its not much, just the basics. MY Verizon, Visual Voicemail. That kind of stuff.

TonikJDK said:
Sit down for this answer it will knock you off your feet.
They are actually a few hours ahead. Both Google and VZ release on the first Monday of the month late morning. But since VZ is east coast they start dropping sooner.
Also, Google makes the VZ versions so they are available for download from Googles dev site....same time as the plain Google version. And its all different on this phone, the VZ version just has some radio and network changes. There is no bloat in it. You actually get that from VZ when you put the VZ SIM in it. I got it on my Google version when I put the SIM in it.
And its not much, just the basics. MY Verizon, Visual Voicemail. That kind of stuff.
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Good to know Can't wait to get mine on Monday.

(Rev.3/2) ANY SM-N986U1 USERS (USA) GET ONE UI 3.1? 《WELL, WHY HAVEN'T YOU, IT'S HERE?!》

(Revised 3/2/21)
If by now, you haven't received this firmware update from your wireless provider, something is askew and you probably should start looking that. Other than that, if you're not already running on it, you've probably made that choice!
As with all software updates, it's never a bad time to either perform a new backup before commencing with the OTA download, or at least check on what date your showing for the last one (usually, you'll find your handset performs these daily, once every 24 hours). As for me personally, that's my cue to run my backup to my microsd card via the Smartswitch app!
The last friendly reminder I wanted to share witb some of our newcomers that have recently graced us with their presence, is to make certain you're at (or pretty damn close) to 75% charged on your new flagship! The way these new "beasts" we own "bleed-out" our batteries, it's not a bad idea to "up the ante" with the old school rule of having your battery at 50% or more before downloading the update! I saw this same topic mentioned on one of the other forums/channels the other day and thought it was some good advice? Eh, to each his/her own...whatever works for you!
《ATTENTION: ALL NEW MEMBERS AND GUESTS OF XDA DEVELOPERS FORUM》
Welcome to our humble, yet well informed niche!
Either way, we're glad your here. Hit us up if you need anything. If/when you do ask for assistance, don't be surprised if more than 1 or 2 of us chime in. That's how we roll here!
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I read Samsung already started rolling out out this update at the beginning of the week(2/15)
to include this handset. I'm TMB and that's a
no-go (so far) and Sprint hasn't rolled it out either.
Anyone with new Intel on this matter, please share as a small monetary contribution will be made available(jk)!
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I just got it pushed to my phone, downloading at the moment.

momentman10176 said:
I just got it pushed to my phone, downloading at the moment.
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What carrier?

Got it yesterday on unlocked on T-Mobile network.

ggrant3876 said:
Got it yesterday on unlocked on T-Mobile network.
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Are you based in USA, and if so which carrier do you have wireless service with?

evnStevn said:
Are you based in USA, and if so which carrier do you have wireless service with?
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Many Thanks...I should see the ota soon...also with t-mobile.

evnStevn said:
Many Thanks...I should see the ota soon...also with t-mobile.
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I see TMB/SPR U devices are getting it (DUB5)... no U1 yet.

rjohnstone said:
I see TMB/SPR U devices are getting it (DUB5)... no U1 yet.
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yep, saw that, but you're an Unlocked, Carrier Branded SM-N986U, not SM-N986U1. That's where my confusion came about until I figured it out looking at FOTA!
I know it's no cause for alarm (with samsung, it happens more often than not) but I didn't see a new build # assigned yet for XAA(as if they hadn't started one, but much more likely they just failed to update their system)!
However, for those of you SM-N986U1 users (like myself) seeing this dialog, we could be in for a little longer wait, meaning we may not have Our Update by this coming Monday (3/1), as a few of the websites I saw earlier were speculating!
(We will know more soon, I'm certain)!

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yep, saw that, but you're an Unlocked, Carrier Branded SM-N986U, not SM-N986U1. That's where my confusion came about until I figured it out looking at FOTA!
I know it's no cause for alarm (with samsung, it happens more often than not) but I didn't see a new build # assigned yet for XAA(as if they hadn't started one, but much more likely they just failed to update their system)!
However, for those of you SM-N986U1 users (like myself) seeing this dialog, we could be in for a little longer wait, meaning we may not have Our Update by this coming Monday (3/1), as a few of the websites I saw earlier were speculating!
(We will know more soon, I'm certain)!
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**ONE UI 3.1 SOFTWARE UPDATE IS HERE!**

I'm on the unlocked SM-N986U1 connected to Verizon and still no update for me. I thought having an unlocked phone straight from Samsung would put me in line to get the updates first, but I guess not. I was one of the last N20U users to get 3.0, and now the same seems to be the case for 3.1. I saw articles talking about it being pushed out the Note 10's already.

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I'm on the unlocked SM-N986U1 connected to Verizon and still no update for me. I thought having an unlocked phone straight from Samsung would put me in line to get the updates first, but I guess not. I was one of the last N20U users to get 3.0, and now the same seems to be the case for 3.1. I saw articles talking about it being pushed out the Note 10's already.
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Yeah...what's up with that samsung? You shoot the new update to our traded-in or sold devices first, after we spent more money with you to be last on the update list again?! wtf...

having 986U, T-mobile unlocked from the included app, I already received the update UI 3.1 here in Africa where I am with my job. The SIM card /carrier is Africell.

imucarmen said:
I'm on the unlocked SM-N986U1 connected to Verizon and still no update for me. I thought having an unlocked phone straight from Samsung would put me in line to get the updates first, but I guess not. I was one of the last N20U users to get 3.0, and now the same seems to be the case for 3.1. I saw articles talking about it being pushed out the Note 10's already.
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I have bought two notes from Samsung directly over the years because I was under the impression if I bought the phones straight from Sammy I would get more features and faster updates. But as time goes on I see now that the unlocked phones are second class to Sammy. It seem to me like Sammy can't help but stroke off the carriers and bend to what they want.

Finally got mine today. I am with AT&T

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Finally got mine today. I am with AT&T
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I'm glad to see Samsung always improving their camera function as that is one of their claim-to-fames, one that snagged-me as I've said many times! However, I was sorta expecting to see something thrown in the mix about changes implemented to extend battery life...wasn't just me, right?

Got it today. U1 XAA running on visible.

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Are you based in USA, and if so which carrier do you have wireless service with?
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Yes, Texas and not impressed with it. Much ado about nothing!

Question I may have found out how to unlock early through T-Mobile

* I just got this phone 3 days ago *
I have not spoken with any tech support at all about this matter. I simply have been looking through everyone's post and I had came across the one where you put the special code in the dialer system. However, prior to that I had popped in my old SIM card from my pixel 4 that was already unlocked and then I did the check in. Went back to developer options and OEM was grayed out and said to connect to the internet. That was last night and obviously I put my new activated SIM back in since that time .Now today all of a sudden I get the notification that my device has been unlocked. I checked my T-Mobile app and indeed it said that my device is unlocked and ready for any compatible network.
I would also like to add that I did do the temporary unlock as well before I got the message . Not sure if that part was before or after I swapped SIM and did the dialer method. And yes I know that that wouldn't have done anything either by itself but maybe that also helped possibly fool the system into thinking I was already unlocked idk but thats it honestly. Could be luck but I wish you all luck at the same time !
I have pics for proof including the 800 I still owe on it.

you lucky dog there is another guy that did that aswell. i had to go to extreme lengths. to get it sorta done

abbbennett12353 said:
you lucky dog there is another guy that did that aswell. i had to go to extreme lengths. to get it sorta done
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I saw your post and then this happened to me 20 minutes after ! Your luck rubbed off on me I guess haha

i just made long comment in that thread expaining it a bit and holy hell......

What dialer code?

LLStarks said:
What dialer code?
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Code:
*#*#2432546#*#*

how did you get a temporary unlock?
i was told that is only possible on Samsung Devices

I got a check in succeeded in my notifications? *#*#2432546#*#*

rinnycoop121 said:
how did you get a temporary unlock?
i was told that is only possible on Samsung Devices
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tmobile unlock app (pixel only) is the app you need to temp unlock the phone. if your goal is oem unlock, that requires permanent

avid_droid said:
I got a check in succeeded in my notifications? *#*#2432546#*#*
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that dialer code just checks that you are connected to the internet maybe googles server as well, but not sure.

Trippyy Doee said:
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Does that only work if you're eligible?

LLStarks said:
Does that only work if you're eligible?
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I believe it does nothing but "check in" with a server to verify your connected to the internet

abbbennett12353 said:
I believe it does nothing but "check in" with a server to verify your connected to the internet
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Finally found the post
Post in thread 'May 1, 2023 TQ2A.230505.002 Global - Unlock bootloader / Root Pixel 7 Pro [Cheetah] / SafetyNet' https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...7-pro-cheetah-safetynet.4502805/post-87569379

Okay I see what your saying I'm actually gonna do some more reading into that but I do know forsure it does exactly that check in to verify a connection to the internet and I assume by pinging googles server. The success notification is saying it got the ping back, meaning it's on the internet. Where the confusion I think your at is coming from is that the OEM unlock switch requires the internet purely to check if your phone can be unlocked or not (grayed out oem switch or not), so if it didn't instantly become available it is not going going to. When the device is fully paid off the switch, at least for t-mobile, will become available. But I appreciate you digging that up I have seen the title to that thread I just have never looked at it, knowing I'm more than likely **** out of luck, for now. New phone coming soon. I hope this makes sense

Trippyy Doee said:
Finally found the post
Post in thread 'May 1, 2023 TQ2A.230505.002 Global - Unlock bootloader / Root Pixel 7 Pro [Cheetah] / SafetyNet' https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...7-pro-cheetah-safetynet.4502805/post-87569379
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I have no damn clue how to add you after the fact to my post. I didn't reply to you but just commented by mistake so here is your notification. Lol

abbbennett12353 said:
I have no damn clue how to add you after the fact to my post. I didn't reply to you but just commented by mistake so here is your notification. Lol
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It's okay I went out of my way to do it lol and as for the phone then idk wtf happened something happened somewhere and at some point it ended up with me having it fully unlocked with $800 still left to pay .about to get a laptop soon to finally root. But on the T-Mobile app it says fully unlocked idk I'm happy. But now the 8 is coming out soon I have Jump! Upgrade so I can do it but I'm so cheap I held out for 4 years with my 4 non pro lmao

I have made some decent money this year so I swap around from my 7 pro, s22 ultra, and OnePlus 10 pro. I think I may trade in one for the 8 I just can't decide between getting rid of the 22 or the one plus. I'm leaning towards getting rid of the Samsung.

abbbennett12353 said:
I have made some decent money this year so I swap around from my 7 pro, s22 ultra, and OnePlus 10 pro. I think I may trade in one for the 8 I just can't decide between getting rid of the 22 or the one plus. I'm leaning towards getting rid of the Samsung.
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I'm a huge fan of the OnePlus the display looks incredible, best out of any phone I've ever used

Trippyy Doee said:
It's okay I went out of my way to do it lol and as for the phone then idk wtf happened something happened somewhere and at some point it ended up with me having it fully unlocked with $800 still left to pay .about to get a laptop soon to finally root. But on the T-Mobile app it says fully unlocked idk I'm happy. But now the 8 is coming out soon I have Jump! Upgrade so I can do it but I'm so cheap I held out for 4 years with my 4 non pro lmao
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Damnit I did it again.

abbbennett12353 said:
I have made some decent money this year so I swap around from my 7 pro, s22 ultra, and OnePlus 10 pro. I think I may trade in one for the 8 I just can't decide between getting rid of the 22 or the one plus. I'm leaning towards getting rid of the Samsung.
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Lol it's fine and I'd get rid of the s22 myself if i had the choice. But I may just do the same and get the 8 but I wanna have fun with this phone first lol