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Hello,
saw this on the viewsonic website:
viewsonic.com/tablets/
I apologize if this has been already been posted
My favorite part:
In the interim, users can download Flash from various websites that distribute android applications.
Hehe, what websites would those be?
My G-Tablet is sitting in it's box until Christmas Day, and I'm kind of curious to see what they release as a software update on 12/24. I guess I'll allow it to accept all of the OTA updates and see how the product works in stock form before installing TNT 3.0. I'm hoping others will provide their feedback on the forum to compare stock vs. custom ROM in regards to speed, FC's, etc. All things considered, I'd just assume keep it stock if the performance is similar just so I can continue receiving OTA updates, but that might be asking too much. Still, great to see Viewsonic stepping up to the plate to improve the user experience.
I hav run custom roms since this thing has been out of box for 15 minutes. I also used a couple of store demo units and watched videos on youtube with stock roms. I think I am fairly well versed on the roms of these things. I will tell you this, you will always have a faster machine with a custom rom. There are just things in the customs that Viewsonic will not put in. Also, the stock TapNTap layer adds some overhead to the unit. With that said, I ran mine with the 3316 udate that Roebeet found the other day and was fairly impressed on how usable the tab was.
I agree with you, let in run the updates on Saturday when you open it and use it for a day. If it meets your needs you can leave it like that. You may not be unhappy with it stock. If you want to try a rom, you always have that option. I installed TNT Lite on my wife's tab and I am thinking about putting her's back to stock. She might like that TapNCrap UI.
rayden25 said:
I hav run custom roms since this thing has been out of box for 15 minutes. I also used a couple of store demo units and watched videos on youtube with stock roms. I think I am fairly well versed on the roms of these things. I will tell you this, you will always have a faster machine with a custom rom. There are just things in the customs that Viewsonic will not put in. Also, the stock TapNTap layer adds some overhead to the unit. With that said, I ran mine with the 3316 udate that Roebeet found the other day and was fairly impressed on how usable the tab was.
I agree with you, let in run the updates on Saturday when you open it and use it for a day. If it meets your needs you can leave it like that. You may not be unhappy with it stock. If you want to try a rom, you always have that option. I installed TNT Lite on my wife's tab and I am thinking about putting her's back to stock. She might like that TapNCrap UI.
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I've gotta say, even as a fairly more advanced user, I like 3316. TnT, as long as it's not slogging, isn't bad. Other than the 'to do' list screen, which is useless to me, the screens are generally appealing and useful. Weather's quick, good, and the news interface isn't bad, especially since I never got into using Reader. With 3316's ability to switch over to more vanilla Android, I'm pretty happy with stock3316+root+flash+market. It's responsive enough.
I assume that this 3316 update is the same one that they will be pushing out OTA on 12/24, or will there be yet another update then?
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I assume that this 3316 update is the same one that they will be pushing out OTA on 12/24, or will there be yet another update then?
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There's already a 3338 UAT version floating around.
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There's already a 3338 UAT version floating around.
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I guess it begs the question: Will there be another on 12/24 per the press release?
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I guess it begs the question: Will there be another on 12/24 per the press release?
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3338 is definitely UAT / pre-release. TnT puts these on an externally facing link and (sometimes) pushes it out to user devices, but I don't think this one was. It's possible that 3338 might be the 12/24 version, but we don't know yet.
So taking a look at that press release and also Viewsonic tweets I see these bits of info:
“As a result, our software partner is releasing an upgrade that will address customer concerns. Along with great performance improvements, customers will have the flexibility to use both a standard Android interface as well as a user-customizable interface which has been significantly enhanced since the product launch.” - Press Release Dec 20
"We're releasing an update to gTablet s/w this week. Will address performance & UI issues, including option to boot to Android." - Twitter Dec 20
Are they giving us the option to not use the TapNTap?
Correia said:
So taking a look at that press release and also Viewsonic tweets I see these bits of info:
“As a result, our software partner is releasing an upgrade that will address customer concerns. Along with great performance improvements, customers will have the flexibility to use both a standard Android interface as well as a user-customizable interface which has been significantly enhanced since the product launch.” - Press Release Dec 20
"We're releasing an update to gTablet s/w this week. Will address performance & UI issues, including option to boot to Android." - Twitter Dec 20
Are they giving us the option to not use the TapNTap?
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I think they are moving towards making the TapNTap portion more of a "dashboard." Since it was made to run on fridge and wall based devices, I think it isn't the best for everyday browsing use. Instead the default will be the more standard android look launcher.
However, you still will be using the TapNTap framework, hence the familar look of the status bar and popup windows, options, etc.
Hi guys - Great website. I love the amount of information being exchanged here. I am new to the rooting environment, but I am not new to IT. I have an IT career, some entry level programming, SQL scripting, and have modded playstations and xboxes previously so I should be able to follow much of the technical talk.
I just purchased a Samsung Charge and have completed the one click root and have confirmed that I have root on ED1. So my questions are (please link to thread if answered elsewhere):
How do I determine which mod/rom is the best and safest to use? Gummy, Altered beast, etc?
Are any gingerbread based mods out or are they all froyo based for the Charge? What is the newest out and is there a projected release schedule?
How do I get the wireless hot stop working for free once I am rooted? Do I have to install a ROM?
Is the Odin application the best way to update the ROMs?
Is the ROM the OS update and the kernel the BIOS update?
It looks like there is an issue doing backups with Charge Mods, so how do I backup my phone? (it looks like the ability to backup has been removed from some mods)
So I am rooted. What are the next steps I need to follow: 1) Backup (how) 2) install new OS ROM????
Thanks for your time.
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Hi guys - Great website. I love the amount of information being exchanged here. I am new to the rooting environment, but I am not new to IT. I have an IT career, some entry level programming, SQL scripting, and have modded playstations and xboxes previously so I should be able to follow much of the technical talk.
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Welcome, you seem like a prime candidate for this adventure!
I just purchased a Samsung Charge and have completed the one click root and have confirmed that I have root on ED1. So my questions are (please link to thread if answered elsewhere):
How do I determine which mod/rom is the best and safest to use? Gummy, Altered beast, etc?
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Pretty much just by reading their threads and seeing what issues people are having. That being said, the Charge ROMs are all pretty new, so safest is to just find a rooted version of stock, which you seem to have accomplished. The other ROMs are trying to improve on things by doing things such as "debloating" (removing useless stuff added by Verizon), etc., but this can have unintended consequences. For instance, with Altered Beast, you'll see he released fixed versions of stock apps which broke.
Are any gingerbread based mods out or are they all froyo based for the Charge? What is the newest out and is there a projected release schedule?
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They're all Froyo for now. I'd guess a Gingerbread version will be out within the next month or so, depending on how many devs are working on it. I think Gummy is slightly newer than Altered Beast, but that could change any second. Actually, the newest at this moment is the OTA (Over The Air) release from Verizon last night, EE4.
How do I get the wireless hot stop working for free once I am rooted? Do I have to install a ROM?
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You just need to install an app. Search the market, or search the forums for what others are using. They're getting a little more difficult to find as Verizon has started blocking some of them from their version of the market.
Is the Odin application the best way to update the ROMs?
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Right now it seems to be. Though once you use that and have CWM (ClockWork Mod) installed, you might be able to update using CWM. Still a little early to tell.
Is the ROM the OS update and the kernel the BIOS update?
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Pretty close. ROM, as we usually use the term, refers to the Boot ROM, which is the first code run, and essentially the O/S, though some ROMs aren't a complete replacement for all of it. The kernel isn't quite as equivalent, but that's true to the extent that it handles communication between the software and the hardware.
It looks like there is an issue doing backups with Charge Mods, so how do I backup my phone? (it looks like the ability to backup has been removed from some mods)
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There's an issue with doing backups through CWM, but you can still use something like Titanium Backup. What do you want to backup? If it's just your software, settings, etc., that should be fine.
So I am rooted. What are the next steps I need to follow: 1) Backup (how) 2) install new OS ROM????
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1) Use alternate software, such as Titanium Backup. 2) Use ODIN for now.
Thanks for your time.
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You're welcome!
I have the ED1 versions rooted with gingerbreak and used root explorer to change the script from ED1 to ED2. Everything is working good and launcher pro is making it look better, but is it safe to load altered beast or other roms using Odin or will it mess it up? I would like to get CWM on it to go straight into bootloader like I did with the Incredible.
The kernel shouldn't be related to a BIOS in a PC, that would be your bootloader. A kernel is part of an Operating system. Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X all have kernels. The kernel, as I understand it, is sort of like the middle man between the software you "see" and the hardware. Drivers are a core part of a kernel, but aren't the only thing in the kernel. A ROM, is the OS, as a kernel is included in any ROM. The ROM will consist of the applications included, be it themed applications or custom built ones, and a kernel.
Keep in mind this is a large generalization of the whole subject, but I think its a good overview.
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I have the ED1 versions rooted with gingerbreak and used root explorer to change the script from ED1 to ED2. Everything is working good and launcher pro is making it look better, but is it safe to load altered beast or other roms using Odin or will it mess it up? I would like to get CWM on it to go straight into bootloader like I did with the Incredible.
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You can use Odin to install Altered Beast and you'll be fine. you might want to wait a couple of days to see what happens with this EE4 release, though.
morkon - good description of the kernel.
not to be a downer, but i wouldnt put any eta's on anything gingerbread related...my overly optimistic guess (based on no inside knowledge) for anything official would be late august...but knowing the vzw/samsung combo (regardless of the droid branding) #gingergate could be on until late Fall/Christmas
Thank you for the information. I will check it out in more detail when I get home from work.
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not to be a downer, but i wouldnt put any eta's on anything gingerbread related...my overly optimistic guess (based on no inside knowledge) for anything official would be late august...but knowing the vzw/samsung combo (regardless of the droid branding) #gingergate could be on until late Fall/Christmas
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I wouldn't really expect an official Samsung Gingerbread ROM until next year. They are incredibly slow. However, I wouldn't be surprised to see an unofficial version well before then.
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I wouldn't really expect an official Samsung Gingerbread ROM until next year. They are incredibly slow. However, I wouldn't be surprised to see an unofficial version well before then.
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Incredibly slow, yet the DROID Charge just received it's 2nd OTA update in 1 month from release, and the Fascinate just got it's 6th/7th OTA update in the past 8 months as well, and as far as I know, the international SGS has had a similar number of updates come out for it as well. The problem isn't Samsung producing the updates (anymore), it's getting the carriers test them and submit feedback in a timely manner.
Given that the SGS line is getting Gingerbread over the summer from most reports I've read, I'd expect the Charge to get Gingerbread sometime late summer/fall, as well as the rest of the US lineup of SGS phones.
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You can use Odin to install Altered Beast and you'll be fine. you might want to wait a couple of days to see what happens with this EE4 release, though.
morkon - good description of the kernel.
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OK, thanks! I have only had it a day and I have not played with ODIN, so it scares me to death. I can say that with one day of trying it, the GPS is horrible! It had me over 2 miles off.
I am not sure why the below happened, but I did soft brick. I restarted the whole process and it is moving along now so please disregard.
Question. I am using Odin to install alteredbeast. I held down the volume key until after i clicked start on the ROM. It has been working for about 5 minutes and on my phone i can see a downloading icon with a "AX_TIMEOUT" in red in the top left. Did I screw up?
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I am not sure why the below happened, but I did soft brick. I restarted the whole process and it is moving along now so please disregard.
Question. I am using Odin to install alteredbeast. I held down the volume key until after i clicked start on the ROM. It has been working for about 5 minutes and on my phone i can see a downloading icon with a "AX_TIMEOUT" in red in the top left. Did I screw up?
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You only have to hold the down volume button for a few seconds, until you get to the yellow downloading screen. Im not sure if that has an effect, but I'd start over. Turn off any antivirus, plug in to your rear USB ports, and try again.
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Incredibly slow, yet the DROID Charge just received it's 2nd OTA update in 1 month from release, and the Fascinate just got it's 6th/7th OTA update in the past 8 months as well, and as far as I know, the international SGS has had a similar number of updates come out for it as well. The problem isn't Samsung producing the updates (anymore), it's getting the carriers test them and submit feedback in a timely manner.
Given that the SGS line is getting Gingerbread over the summer from most reports I've read, I'd expect the Charge to get Gingerbread sometime late summer/fall, as well as the rest of the US lineup of SGS phones.
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They're doing well on the bugfixes, I'll give them that. But with how long we waited for updates for my wife's Epic, I'm not super keen on Samsung's update schedule. They ranked last on the list of manufacturers updating to newer versions of software. That being said, I'm hoping with this as their Verizon flagship they'll stay on top of it.
Hi, so I ditched my old P905-V a while back because of the locked bootloader and inability to root. Found a great deal on the P900 tpdau and decided to give the Note Pro another go. However, since I haven't used Android since the 5.1.x days, can anyone give me the rundown on whether Nougat ROMs are worth installing? I never did see MM in action, and I'm thinking the latest Android might be the best bet. However, I'm seeing a ton out there about SafetyNet ... should I just assume stock is acceptable so I can download more apps from the Play Store, or does it really even matter? I mostly want to use productivity apps and the drawing features of the Note with Sketchbook Pro (without paying the price tag of the Tab S3 and still dealing with bloat). Basically, I'm now torn between getting the latest greatest ROM, or installing it only to find I've tripped Knox and can't install the apps I want. My current ROM of choice would be the latest Resurrection Remix since that was developed recently and doesn't have volume level issues. However, if that prevents me from installing Google apps or Microsoft Office suite, I might care more.
Thoughts, anyone?
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Hi, so I ditched my old P905-V a while back because of the locked bootloader and inability to root. Found a great deal on the P900 tpdau and decided to give the Note Pro another go. However, since I haven't used Android since the 5.1.x days, can anyone give me the rundown on whether Nougat ROMs are worth installing? I never did see MM in action, and I'm thinking the latest Android might be the best bet. However, I'm seeing a ton out there about SafetyNet ... should I just assume stock is acceptable so I can download more apps from the Play Store, or does it really even matter? I mostly want to use productivity apps and the drawing features of the Note with Sketchbook Pro (without paying the price tag of the Tab S3 and still dealing with bloat). Basically, I'm now torn between getting the latest greatest ROM, or installing it only to find I've tripped Knox and can't install the apps I want. My current ROM of choice would be the latest Resurrection Remix since that was developed recently and doesn't have volume level issues. However, if that prevents me from installing Google apps or Microsoft Office suite, I might care more.
Thoughts, anyone?
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I used Lineage N for about 2 weeks. It was smooth. I went back to stock because the tablet would get massively hot and sometimes reboot when playing graphic intensive games. Aside from the heat while gaming, it was great. I'd still be running it, but the main purpose of my 900 is gaming.
Give it a shot, share your results.
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I used Lineage N for about 2 weeks. It was smooth. I went back to stock because the tablet would get massively hot and sometimes reboot when playing graphic intensive games. Aside from the heat while gaming, it was great. I'd still be running it, but the main purpose of my 900 is gaming.
Give it a shot, share your results.
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Hi I just purchased a P900, waiting for it to arrive in the mail. Does everything else work on the Lineage N build you are talking about? I plan on using mine for GPS mostly, monitoring apps, not gaming. So that rom may work great for me.
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Hi I just purchased a P900, waiting for it to arrive in the mail. Does everything else work on the Lineage N build you are talking about? I plan on using mine for GPS mostly, monitoring apps, not gaming. So that rom may work great for me.
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I'm actually back on it now. The latest build is great. I think my heat issues have been toned down with less aggressive settings for the CPU and GPU. GPS is working, I just tested it with Google maps. I'm not having any issues this time.
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I'm actually back on it now. The latest build is great. I think my heat issues have been toned down with less aggressive settings for the CPU and GPU. GPS is working, I just tested it with Google maps. I'm not having any issues this time.
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Thanks for the response.
I suppose I could do ask this question in the Q&A area but how do I do a full backup?
For example: I thought backing everything up in recovery was enough but apparently for my Z2 there is something called a TA Backup? Is this the same for the Galaxy Note Pro? I can't find any threads on doing a backup. Are there any other backups I have to do?
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Figured it out. Turns out for samsung it is called EFS Partition. So make sure you back that up along with your nandroid.
Hi everyone, just picked up my Mate 9(MHA-L29 C567) about a few days ago, I love this device already, everything from the build to the software(ROM).
However I am pretty stumped on the fact that the custom rom development lacks for this phone but I see a few ROMs that are debloated n what not, i see that unlocking the BL and flashing is a bit more different than what I dealt with in the past. Mind you I was a flashaholic for all the phones I have owned
My question to everyone here is, is it wise to stick with just the stock ROM or should I go and flash a debloated ROM? Has anyone noticed any differences at all(Battery, SOT, Speed etc)? Rooting and all that can be done but I just dont know if its worth flashing since Ive noticed the ROM dates on these are a bit dated and nothing much has changed
I used to root my phones and use custom ROMs in the past. Matter of fact, at times I flash a different custom ROM every week.
But since I noticed the ambiguity in rooting this phone, the rate at which people where bricking (sometimes need to pay FH to be rescued), lack of development but most importantly, the phone is quite fast and UI isn't too bad, I decided to save myself the headache.
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I used to root my phones and use custom ROMs in the past. Matter of fact, at times I flash a different custom ROM every week.
But since I noticed the ambiguity in rooting this phone, the rate at which people where bricking (sometimes need to pay FH to be rescued), lack of development but most importantly, the phone is quite fast and UI isn't too bad, I decided to save myself the headache.
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Same here I was heavily into flashing ROMs and rooting my devices not even 24 hrs of ownership, but with me looking up the process of just even rooting the phone really concerns me with the amount of bricks I am seeing, and yes the phone and UI is already top notch
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I think this thing stock is pretty good. Just got this a few days ago (MHA-L29 C567) and I'm coming from a Note 4. This thing is freaking fast as it is. Any bloat I disabled/uninstalled if it would let me. I to am a total flashaholic, but with this I feel theres no need. As long as Huawei gets some updates going through the pipes I'm happy with this thing!
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I think this thing stock is pretty good. Just got this a few days ago (MHA-L29 C567) and I'm coming from a Note 4. This thing is freaking fast as it is. Any bloat I disabled/uninstalled if it would let me. I to am a total flashaholic, but with this I feel theres no need. As long as Huawei gets some updates going through the pipes I'm happy with this thing!
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Same here, i uninstalled/disabled unnecessary apps, still very snappy, even from day 1 it was fast
I hope so too about Huawei sending out updates, if we get Oreo I'll be set till the Mate 11 or whatever Huawei is going to provide
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Same here, i uninstalled/disabled unnecessary apps, still very snappy, even from day 1 it was fast
I hope so too about Huawei sending out updates, if we get Oreo I'll be set till the Mate 11 or whatever Huawei is going to provide
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It should see at least one major upgrade I would think. I mean it's a flagship and just under a year old
Stick with stock
I would flash a custom rom if it was easy just for fun... But I am happy with it
First phone I haven't rooted - there are a few tweaks I'd like, and a few apps I'd like to uninstall, but apart from those minor issues this phone is a gem.
(yet another Note 4 user)
Stick with stock. Root and uninstalling unwanted apps are pretty easy.
I flashed custom rom however I think the stock rom is very good and has better battery life. I flash custom rom just for fun and I like the extra function of KangVip apk.
ok i am flashaholic
unlocked, root, twrp and flashed two roms from here (RomAur and Ephemeral Mate 9) but they ****ed up my M9 (bootloop and lot of other s..t) then back to stock then all again then rebrand, then Firedance rom for L29, then next ver., then next, then rebrand back to L09 then flashed Firedance-MHA-L09C432B194 from other forum and thats a winner
now waiting for next ver.
I was also a flashaholic once upon a time. This is the first device I have not rooted. I feel the stock experience has taken on a new life, things that we used to root for are now becoming part of the stock system. The only thing I wish I could have is a system wide add blocker. I know there are ways to do this without root (and I'm using them) but the root variants are better.
Nevertheless, keep this thing stock, don't root, use the heck out of it and don't think about it. [emoji3]
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By the way, for the US C567 there is a new Beta build out, B230.
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By the way, for the US C567 there is a new Beta build out, B230.
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I'm on C567B190 with TWRP and Root.
Can I flash B230 without losing data and root?
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I'm on C567B190 with TWRP and Root.
Can I flash B230 without losing data and root?
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I suppose you can flash it and keep root if you pre root it and package it as a flashable zip. As far as keeping data, I don't think so.
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for all those that say that emui is better than........... well..... anything else, thats just wrong. i had this phone for about a week and i sold it asap. i bought it off ebay for a real cheap price. i fixed the cracked screen and found someone at school that wanted it. emui is just bad. its not as bad 4.0 and what not but its still horrible.
its far too modified to be of any use. if huawei just added their own bloat and "optimizations" without the UI crippling it would be okay. as it is one cant add any quick tiles which is horrible. almost all other oems dont cripple android to the same extent as huawei.
sadly the mate 9 has no custom roms and it looks like it will never have them so its not viable choice. i dont see that changing anytime soon.
The first android that I haven't rooted.
I'm using blokada to block ads which is working pretty well but I wish there was a way of deleting some of the stock apps (especially the calendar) or at the very least deactivating them so they didn't come back.
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I'm on C567B190 with TWRP and Root.
Can I flash B230 without losing data and root?
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That's exactly what I would be looking to do too, Allan on a C567 (well currently that anyway, rebranded). Let me know if you have any luck doing it.
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for all those that say that emui is better than........... well..... anything else, thats just wrong. i had this phone for about a week and i sold it asap. i bought it off ebay for a real cheap price. i fixed the cracked screen and found someone at school that wanted it. emui is just bad. its not as bad 4.0 and what not but its still horrible.
its far too modified to be of any use. if huawei just added their own bloat and "optimizations" without the UI crippling it would be okay. as it is one cant add any quick tiles which is horrible. almost all other oems dont cripple android to the same extent as huawei.
sadly the mate 9 has no custom roms and it looks like it will never have them so its not viable choice. i dont see that changing anytime soon.
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Well, that's YOUR opinion. A lot of people like it this way.
Hello, I am officially downgrading back to Oreo now due to not seeing bugfixes from Xiaomi for several months on common problems reported by many people to Xiaomi ever since Android Pie update was pushed. They did not fix anything, and it does not look like they will either.
Let me debunk for you my thoughts on Android One and how Xiaomi has handled it:
- We are guaranteed two major updates and security patches, but we are not guaranteed any stability or bugfixes! This is just a cheap update to Android Pie with only security updates being pushed, and I find it absolutely unacceptable. Xiaomi probably does not want to give resources to such a unpopular not profitable or well-selling device (compared to their other devices and MIUI) and are just delivering the minimal they have to in order to stick to and fulfil the conditions set in the Android One project.
- I noticed not only lower battery lifetime, but also several bugs. This includes completely random MASSIVE lags in for example something as simple as using Google Maps (nothing else being used on my phone when lagging!)
- My Wi-Fi not working well at all taking a long time to scan and connect, not being able to connect to hidden networks AT ALL
- Random crashes even when I was on my way to an important exam and even "freezing" up in calls and weird buzzing screeching noises in calls.
- I have LTE, but I cannot call over VoLTE or VoWiFi, because this phone does not have the support for my carrier. My phone calls now go through 2G! While my Apple, Samsung and Huawei friends are laughing at me.
- My friend reported one of his speakers DIED on him not even half a year after the purchase.
Note, I have done factory resets, I have tried to give it a chance, but it just doesn't improve. This is a horrible device, and that is my 2 cents.
You should not buy phones just from the specifications you see it has, you should care about plenty a other things that might be wrong. I have decided to go back to Oreo, and at least have a decent device, and I think you should too, which is why I am sharing this with you. Will I buy another phone from Xiaomi? I am not so sure after this ...
How you do it is simple, you just download the latest Oreo OTA: V9.6.10.0.ODLMIFF, do OEM unlocking and flash it using flash_all_lock_crc.sh on Linux or the flash_all_lock_crc.bat on Windows (will erase all data NB)
Join me downgrading to Oreo, WARNING: Only at your own risk!
Need drivers, download the fasboot package binary for Linux or Windows from Google and install Xiaomi ADB/Fastboot drivers, for Linux it is not necessary when I tried it:
Windows: https://dl.google.com/android/repository/platform-tools-latest-windows.zip
Linux: https://dl.google.com/android/repository/platform-tools-latest-linux.zip
Mac: https://dl.google.com/android/repository/platform-tools-latest-darwin.zip
1. Download the latest 8.1 OTA http://bigota.d.miui.com/V9.6.11.0....0.ODLMIFF_20181112.0000.00_8.1_8028e3bf1c.tgz
2. Enable developers options by tapping the build number in about phone multiple times, and in developer options enable OEM unlocking
3. Shut the phone down, hold the volume down when plugging it into the PC or hold the volume down + power to enter fastboot mode (you should see it say fastboot and the Mitu mascot).
4. OEM unlock using command "fastboot oem unlock" WARNING: Full data wipe, unless you hold volume down you might be able to stop this, look for other threads on xda-developers for this.
5. Flash using flash_all_lock_crc.sh on Linux or the flash_all_lock_crc.bat on Windows, maybe you can use the ones without data wipe, again you should take backup of your important data!
6. Enjoy a not so terrible device
Now I just have to figure out how to stop auto-downloading of May OTA and notifications about updating, probably needs root?
EDIT:
Can go into Developer Options and disable Automatic system updates
I complete agree with you bro, Android One is almost like we are beta testers for all the time. My Mi A2 lite give me some annoying issues:
1) Bluetooth don't work proprely with my sound car system (freeze the music when I take in my hands or the road shake the device);
2) Autofocus don't work for Gcam in low light and even in the stock app camera the focus isn't correct edge to edge, making some softness in the corners;
3) Hotspot wifi router works for some minutes and for nothing the mobile data stop.
4) Ram management is a rubbish, just opening the camera any other application reload;
After all I understand Samsung and others Brands for delay updates, at least is not full of bugs like Xiaomi (same with MIUI).
if you only downgrade, without patches or fixes, android 8.1 will be a pain in the ...
the anti-roll back politic of xiaomi only makes harder to downgrade...
NeoZX58 said:
if you only downgrade, without patches or fixes, android 8.1 will be a pain in the ...
the anti-roll back politic of xiaomi only makes harder to downgrade...
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And about customs ROMs? They are more stable and bugfixeds than stock or not reliable yet? Actually I prefer to install Pixel Experience (Pie) and not downgrade to Oreo.
I like pir granted I never use stock ROM custom is the way to go
Yep pie OS definitely consumes more battery than oreo and I'm almost tempted to role back to oreo just to have more battery life.
I'm currently using lineageos by 33bca it's very stable, I recommend you to give it a try. The only thing I hate is that the ram management is really awful (both with stock and custom rom), most of the time the phone has to reload the applications even if I only have 2 applications opened.
Are you having some problem with sim/network? Because I saw in some post a fix to use after downgrading from pie to oreo.
I never upgraded from Oreo to Pie. Looks like i made the right choice.
gatomestre08 said:
I complete agree with you bro, Android One is almost like we are beta testers for all the time. My Mi A2 lite give me some annoying issues:
1) Bluetooth don't work proprely with my sound car system (freeze the music when I take in my hands or the road shake the device);
2) Autofocus don't work for Gcam in low light and even in the stock app camera the focus isn't correct edge to edge, making some softness in the corners;
3) Hotspot wifi router works for some minutes and for nothing the mobile data stop.
4) Ram management is a rubbish, just opening the camera any other application reload;
After all I understand Samsung and others Brands for delay updates, at least is not full of bugs like Xiaomi (same with MIUI).
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Seems like more of the same issues I have experienced, it is simply not good enough for what would be expected of day-to-day use. I think we got exactly what we paid for with this device, sadly, and from what I know the Pie update already released to for example S8 and it is working perfectly well and stable for those. But, again, much more popular and well-financed device than our cheap A2 Lite.
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if you only downgrade, without patches or fixes, android 8.1 will be a pain in the ...
the anti-roll back politic of xiaomi only makes harder to downgrade...
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For me this has been the easiest device to downgrade. Xiaomi hosts the OTA officially, OEM unlocking simply by an easy command no phone or e-mail verification just like the Pixel(Probably Android One related), and they made the script to downgrade it for you. I had much more trouble before on other devices. like Samsung using ODIN, Xiaomi with MIUI and similar, having to go through a verification by e-mail to unlock at HTC etc etc. I do not get what you are on about?
Also, why is it a pain without patches or fixes? It is much better than what you get with Pie so far, at least that is for me. There is way more lacks of patches and fixes for Pie than for Oreo ...
Remember, this was the last version released just before the May Pie update, it is very recent in itself only by some 7 months ...
anzhaki said:
Yep pie OS definitely consumes more battery than oreo and I'm almost tempted to role back to oreo just to have more battery life.
I'm currently using lineageos by 33bca it's very stable, I recommend you to give it a try. The only thing I hate is that the ram management is really awful (both with stock and custom rom), most of the time the phone has to reload the applications even if I only have 2 applications opened.
Are you having some problem with sim/network? Because I saw in some post a fix to use after downgrading from pie to oreo.
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I really wanted to try the custom ROMs, but I have banking apps that complain to me if my device is rooted or similar, and refuses to run. These are important apps for paying for goods and services that you need in order to go about your life normally. I can get around it using Magisk Hide, but I would rather not
SIM/network problems actually worked fine on Oreo and Pie (official ROM) for me all the time. I can use 4G LTE band20 perfectly and other bands to access internet, and it immediately connects to 2G/3G(3G being closed in my country soon for 4G and 5G improvement) for calls when it needs to. Coverage is also well in my country. My company use Ericsson base stations and not Huawei ones, but not like that matters.
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And about customs ROMs? They are more stable and bugfixeds than stock or not reliable yet? Actually I prefer to install Pixel Experience (Pie) and not downgrade to Oreo.
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pixel experience, AOSiP and Lineage are the best custom Roms so far, but, my issue is from RAM management in android Pie (custom or stock).. after hours of use the phone becomes unusable... :/
courfazor said:
For me this has been the easiest device to downgrade. Xiaomi hosts the OTA officially, OEM unlocking simply by an easy command no phone or e-mail verification just like the Pixel(Probably Android One related), and they made the script to downgrade it for you. I had much more trouble before on other devices. like Samsung using ODIN, Xiaomi with MIUI and similar, having to go through a verification by e-mail to unlock at HTC etc etc. I do not get what you are on about?
Also, why is it a pain without patches or fixes? It is much better than what you get with Pie so far, at least that is for me. There is way more lacks of patches and fixes for Pie than for Oreo ...
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nope, if you only do this, you don't have RIL, can't record videos from camera and only one sim works...
i told you because i did it, you need a several fixes for sim, modify files in the official OTA to flash more files and need the modem pie img and flash it too...
i agree that the android one program wont ever give us a solid flawless build, after all it is ment for lower to mid range devices that will be quickly overlooked after release , i must admit this a2 lite is the best phone i have had so far even with the instabilities but thanks to the xda community i have been able to make the device truly mine and how i like it. i had to get this device after my nexus 5x broke during in a motorcycle accident, it was all i could afford and it performs well for my needs, i did install twrp and Butterfly for Daisy to fix the GCam mis focus issues, eventually i gave in and installed magisk to manage tge kernel with arduitor and increase battery life. i never had the luxury to run Oreo on this devixe because as soon as i got it i unlocked the bootloader and when it restarted it booted into the updated pie partition and i decided to run with it. i dont think xiaomi or Google will actually fix any bugs but we are on XDA and DIY is always an option.
NeoZX58 said:
pixel experience, AOSiP and Lineage are the best custom Roms so far, but, my issue is from RAM management in android Pie (custom or stock).. after hours of use the phone becomes unusable... :/
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Not good. I think this was the same massive lagging issue I experienced, I just did not know it was due to bad RAM management. Is this a fix that needs to be done to the ROM directly or only the kernel? I am not familiar with custom ROM/kernel development that much, but I have experienced some kernels on devices working much better than others like ElementalX.
NeoZX58 said:
nope, if you only do this, you don't have RIL, can't record videos from camera and only one sim works...
i told you because i did it, you need a several fixes for sim, modify files in the official OTA to flash more files and need the modem pie img and flash it too...
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I am able to record videos from my camera perfectly, it works very stable. I used this version of Oreo just some months ago and it worked great. I have the version with 4GB RAM and 64GB eMMC. I think the reason I experience no issues is because I only use one primary SIM for 4G and calling in SIM slot 1, and do not have a use for the 2nd SIM slot so for me, it is perfect, but too bad for the people that actually needs this feature like you About updates to RIL I assume the firmware used for modem/calling, which for me works so any updates are not that needed for me to have it working perfectly.
Azatecas said:
i agree that the android one program wont ever give us a solid flawless build, after all it is ment for lower to mid range devices that will be quickly overlooked after release , i must admit this a2 lite is the best phone i have had so far even with the instabilities but thanks to the xda community i have been able to make the device truly mine and how i like it. i had to get this device after my nexus 5x broke during in a motorcycle accident, it was all i could afford and it performs well for my needs, i did install twrp and Butterfly for Daisy to fix the GCam mis focus issues, eventually i gave in and installed magisk to manage tge kernel with arduitor and increase battery life. i never had the luxury to run Oreo on this devixe because as soon as i got it i unlocked the bootloader and when it restarted it booted into the updated pie partition and i decided to run with it. i dont think xiaomi or Google will actually fix any bugs but we are on XDA and DIY is always an option.
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But it was actually working well enough for me too on some of the builds, but I do agree that it is probably not a phone that was meant to be supported for long. Another person I know has the A2 model, and he says it has been working perfectly well for him for all this time even on latest Android Pie. I do not know if there are much differences between them, but I do know the A2 is a much more popular device. Personally I prefer the A2 Lite just for the audio jack, and I still like the legacy MicroUSB. People would call me mad for this, but haha, that is just who I am.
I am afraid this device is not nearly as popular to get enough DIY effort into making a custom ROM/kernel, I am certainly not anyone who knows enough to get into development of it. I hope it will go well and that somebody will take the challenge, or maybe it has already happened?
courfazor said:
I am afraid this device is not nearly as popular to get enough DIY effort into making a custom ROM/kernel, I am certainly not anyone who knows enough to get into development of it. I hope it will go well and that somebody will take the challenge, or maybe it has already happened?
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i actually think the mi a2 lite is more popular than the regular A2, it has more features and a better battery for a cheaper price so it is more accessible to more people and therefore more reach developers. Butterfly for Daisy is a great Custom Kernel that fixes some issues including the GCam focus issue among other things on Pie, i highly suggest you read that thread to see if it offer solutions to some of your issues with the device. im still running stock Rom with the custom kernel and everything works great. others have reported Resurrection Remix/Puxel Experience/ and Lineage Os bring additional stability and fixes in coordination with the kernel. i havent found the need to try a custom rom yet but development is very active on the device. however it is a low end phone and QA is not as good so some devices might be lemons straght out of the factory and not perform as good.
I have almost no issues with my Mi A2 Lite. No slowness except what I expect from a $159 phone, GPS works, bluetooth works albeit I hate that they removed AAC, WiFi is perfectly fine and maxes out my connection with bluetooth on. Only thing I don't like is how crap calling is, but I figured that would be the case when I bought it at again, $159 and knew some American bands were missing. Battery life is 8-11 hours of SOT with regular usage. I use the IR blaster to control my stereo receiver, FM radio is nice. Glass has some light scratches, but again I expect that for $159.
I have a brand new never opened Oreo Mi A2 Lite in my desk drawer still in the box that I haven't felt the need to pull out yet. I think as someone else has pointed out, there may be two hardware revisions because mine is fairly flawless.
I downgrade my Mi A2 Lite to Oreo V9.6.6.0.ODLMIFF (August 2018) and was surprised how good and perfect is this version, looks like I have an new Smartphone. Now Bluetooth works perfect, Gcam Autofocus is accurate, fine RAM mannagement, battery life is great, only miss FM Radio.
Mi A2 Lite was arruined by Android Pie.
Shame on you Xiaomi, I'm very disappointed with the crap updates that we received from you, seems like your only purpose is for the users buy an new one device.
anzhaki said:
Yep pie OS definitely consumes more battery than oreo and I'm almost tempted to role back to oreo just to have more battery life.
I'm currently using lineageos by 33bca it's very stable, I recommend you to give it a try. The only thing I hate is that the ram management is really awful (both with stock and custom rom), most of the time the phone has to reload the applications even if I only have 2 applications opened.
Are you having some problem with sim/network? Because I saw in some post a fix to use after downgrading from pie to oreo.
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For the ram management... open your kernel 'tweaker' app and disable 'Adaptive Low Memory Killer', it seems to like killing apps on background, even with enough ram to spare... It'll make no magic, but definately helps :highfive:
Sorry, needing Help.
Could you please post a tutorial for this, or a good noob Xiaomi step by step? I have unlocked my phone a few months ago. I don't remember how I did it. I have since moved to another phone. I have installed twrp and had it rooted with majisk. a factory reset took care of majisk. I would love to go back completely to stock oreo.
I only need one slot on the sim so this should be ok.
Your directions for install sound good but seems like something might be missing. I'm new to the xiaomi devices. They seem way more comlicated than all the Samsungs I've had.
PLEASE, and thank you:good::good:
Rev10eight said:
Could you please post a tutorial for this, or a good noob Xiaomi step by step? I have unlocked my phone a few months ago. I don't remember how I did it. I have since moved to another phone. I have installed twrp and had it rooted with majisk. a factory reset took care of majisk. I would love to go back completely to stock oreo.
I only need one slot on the sim so this should be ok.
Your directions for install sound good but seems like something might be missing. I'm new to the xiaomi devices. They seem way more comlicated than all the Samsungs I've had.
PLEASE, and thank you:good::good:
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All your data on phone will be lost , take back-up on PC if necessairy.
For full stock rom , download Miuflashtool zip. extract and install on your PC, download stock rom for your phone on your PC and extract it , boot into fastboot and connect your device to PC ,in flashtool click on refresh, your device should appear ( numbercombination 225cc80.... or something like that) click browse in the left corner and select the extracted stock rom file, hit flash and wait till you see succes in green on the right . Your device will take about 10 min to boot . You're now on stock rom, locked bootloader, no root and stock recovery . I flashed my device MiA2 lite) yesterday with latest Pie stock rom after I had bootloop
bricked it. I don't now about oreo stock rom , there could be issues with network connection, video playback and swapped simcard because of anti rollback protection.
Thank you so much.
That was super simple and super quick. I am back to stock Pie, unrooted and and the boot loader is locked again. I used OREO and the phone works fine. Make sure you disable update or it will update to pie. I need to redo it to go back to oreo.
I want to downgrade. What about second sim slot OREO error ??? What version is the best? And what version havent bluetooth/wifi/gps issue? I dont remember what version I was at last on oreo.