Ordered nexus player and gamepad first day on playstore. Just received shipping confirmation with tracking info.
I paid for overnight shipping so I am expecting shipment November 6th, 2014.
Anyone else got their shipping info?
You don't happen to use plex do you OP?
Yes mine will be here Friday. And for the guy above, I use Plex. Want something tested?
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sublimnl said:
Yes mine will be here Friday. And for the guy above, I use Plex. Want something tested?
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Good ol' XBMC ? I'm interested to see how the x86 build (Kodi Beta 1) runs incl. support for bitstreaming HD audio over HDMI
and how far you can push H.264 1080p decoding (> 20 Mbps ??).
I'm still a bit sceptical about x86 Android with the push from Intel.
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Good ol' XBMC ? I'm interested to see how the x86 build (Kodi Beta 1) runs incl. support for bitstreaming HD audio over HDMI
and how far you can push H.264 1080p decoding (> 20 Mbps ??).
I'm still a bit sceptical about x86 Android with the push from Intel.
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XBMC is on my list to get up and running anyway so I'll definitely test it.
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controllers will be here today. i ordered two players but no ship date yet for those.
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Yes mine will be here Friday. And for the guy above, I use Plex. Want something tested?
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If you could check what it can direct stream that'd be great.
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If you could check what it can direct stream that'd be great.
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+1
Also be sure to max out the quality settings in Plex. By default, and after every updated they change back to low setting that makes most stuff transcode rather than direct stream.
Also let us and Plex know if you get any pauses while playing content, or if it gets stuck on the last frame of direct streaming content like it does on the ADT-1... I been trying to get Plex dev's to acknowledge this for ages.
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Yes mine will be here Friday. And for the guy above, I use Plex. Want something tested?
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I'd love to know what codecs/containers both the integral atom can decode using MX player, etc as well as what XBMC/kodi can deal with on a mapped network drive with streamed native content (mkv, mp4, m4v, avi, x264, xvid, mpeg, ac3, aac, dts, mp3, etc). Thanks for offering to test!
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Also let us and Plex know if it gets stuck on the last frame of direct streaming content like it does on the ADT-1... I been trying to get Plex dev's to acknowledge this for ages.
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Not sure what you mean here. Can you explain?
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Not sure what you mean here. Can you explain?
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Well for me and a few others who have ADT-1's and post on the Plex forums. We've been having an issue where on the last frame of a movie/tv show it will stop/pause on that frame, rather than gracefully return to the previous screen. But it only happens when content is direct streaming the video and transcoding the audio. Most likely all audio will be transcoded because if it has better than stereo sound, it will be transcoded to stereo, since that is all android built in media player (exoplayer) will output for non-google apps (they are supposedly working on adding AC3 passthrough).
As for the other comment about pauses, since the last plex release movies just seem to randomly pause requiring a fastforward/rewind/ or stop/play to get going again... not sure the conditions that this occurs for (transcoding, direct stream, ect).
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... Most likely all audio will be transcoded because if it has better than stereo sound, it will be transcoded to stereo, since that is all android built in media player (exoplayer) will output for non-google apps (they are supposedly working on adding AC3 passthrough). ...
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Good lord, I didn't know that was an issue. It'd be an extremely poor livingroom media box if all networked streamed media was stereo only! The chromecast was recently updated with AC3 passthrough (finally) and has always supported AAC 5.1 via LPCM, but the chromecast still has no DTS passthrough just yet.
If Android has the same limitations as ChromeOS this will be a terrible media box indeed.
Elrondolio said:
Good lord, I didn't know that was an issue. It'd be an extremely poor livingroom media box if all networked streamed media was stereo only! The chromecast was recently updated with AC3 passthrough (finally) and has always supported AAC 5.1 via LPCM, but the chromecast still has no DTS passthrough just yet.
If Android has the same limitations as ChromeOS this will be a terrible media box indeed.
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Yeah, it sucks. But at least I got a Google engineer to comment on G+. He said they are working on adding it. Alternatives are virtual surround sound on your receiver, or using a different media player (MX, XBMC, ect), since it's just software related.
I dunno why they don't just add options to passthrough all audio... do they need licenses to passthrough audio? If so they seems pretty stupid. How does XBMC get by with passthrough.... I'm sure they don't pay for licenses.
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Yeah, it sucks. But at least I got a Google engineer to comment on G+. He said they are working on adding it. Alternatives are virtual surround sound on your receiver, or using a different media player (MX, XBMC, ect), since it's just software related.
I dunno why they don't just add options to passthrough all audio... do they need licenses to passthrough audio? If so they seems pretty stupid. How does XBMC get by with passthrough.... I'm sure they don't pay for licenses.
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A license is indeed technically required to passthrough (which, as you state, is really stupid), however Roku somehow squeaked around that issue to support passthrough... they wouldn't detail how in their forums but did confirm that they did NOT get a license. Unfortunately the Roku isn't the best media box either as they don't internally transcode AAC 5.1 to LPCM, only downmix to stereo.
I would think a box as powerful as the Nexus Player would impliment internal transcoding of all 5.1 formats to LPCM 5.1 as the PS3 does, or give the option to passthrough. Heck, even my $79 blu-ray player from Sony transcodes AAC 5.1 to LPCM 5.1 and directly passes through AC3 and DTS. Google isn't a tiny op (like Roku)... this situation on Android, if it does exist on the Nexus Player, needs to be addressed ASAP.
I'm also very interested in which codecs are supported with plex. My Samsung tv does a tremendous job in playing more or less everything direct play. Chromecast on the other hand only do x264 (preferably in mp4 container). I have remuxed several of my dvds to mkv and kept the MPEG 2 video and ac3/DTS streams. Good for archiving. I wonder if Nexus player can handle at least MPEG 2. Ac3 seems to be under development for passthrough.
I also really hope they have not included cinavia protection!
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A license is indeed technically required to passthrough (which, as you state, is really stupid), however Roku somehow squeaked around that issue to support passthrough... they wouldn't detail how in their forums but did confirm that they did NOT get a license. Unfortunately the Roku isn't the best media box either as they don't internally transcode AAC 5.1 to LPCM, only downmix to stereo.
I would think a box as powerful as the Nexus Player would impliment internal transcoding of all 5.1 formats to LPCM 5.1 as the PS3 does, or give the option to passthrough. Heck, even my $79 blu-ray player from Sony transcodes AAC 5.1 to LPCM 5.1 and directly passes through AC3 and DTS. Google isn't a tiny op (like Roku)... this situation on Android, if it does exist on the Nexus Player, needs to be addressed ASAP.
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The ADT-1 can decode 5.1, and output multichannel PCM, but only for select google apps; like Play Movies, ect.
When you think about it, HDMI cables should require a license to transfer AC3 and DTS from point A to B....lol I don't see how passthrough audio w/o decoding or touching it is any different.
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Johan1976 said:
I'm also very interested in which codecs are supported with plex. My Samsung tv does a tremendous job in playing more or less everything direct play. Chromecast on the other hand only do x264 (preferably in mp4 container). I have remuxed several of my dvds to mkv and kept the MPEG 2 video and ac3/DTS streams. Good for archiving. I wonder if Nexus player can handle at least MPEG 2. Ac3 seems to be under development for passthrough.
I also really hope they have not included cinavia protection!
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Plex uses what ever media player is built in to said device. For Android, it's exoplayer. On your Samsung TV (and my own), it's Samsung's media player and their APIs that Plex use.
I know it uses internal player like exoplayer, but which codecs are supported with exoplayer on nexus player?
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Luxferro said:
The ADT-1 can decode 5.1, and output multichannel PCM, but only for select google apps; like Play Movies, ect.
When you think about it, HDMI cables should require a license to transfer AC3 and DTS from point A to B....lol I don't see how passthrough audio w/o decoding or touching it is any different.
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Plex uses what ever media player is built in to said device. For Android, it's exoplayer. On your Samsung TV (and my own), it's Samsung's media player and their APIs that Plex use.
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I couldn't agree more about the HDMI cable license as that would be common sense... the whole license deal is so screwed up for both audio and video and always has been. But Google could clearly afford to license properly for their media boxes!
As for Plex: its doubly important what the Nexus Player natively supports for those running Plex servers on non-Intel NAS devices such as most Synology NASes. Those don't have the power to transcode so Plex can only direct/bitstream for both video and audio. The Nexus Player needs to be robust in its native container and codec support to exist in a livingroom.
I wonder how kodi gets around the walled garden to bitstream properly over android's hdmi, or do they? I've never run XBMC/kodi on android.
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I wonder how kodi gets around the walled garden to bitstream properly, or do they on Android?
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They have it on Android. You need to enable expert settings then its listed. I just installed it the other day so I could watch something without it pausing all the time.
I'm sure as soon as the masses get their nexus players and complain to Plex they won't be able to ignore us on the bugs; like the pausing issue in their last android release.
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They have it on Android. You need to enable expert settings then its listed. I just installed it the other day so I could watch something without it pausing all the time.
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Have you tested a bunch of containers and codes on the ADT-1's kodi? If it has native passthrough for both AC3 and DTS, does it also transcode AAC 5.1 to multichannel PCM or downmix to stereo PCM? I assume it natively supports all kinds of containers considering what the PC version can do, but it'd be great to try a variety to verify. How about xvid and/or mpeg-2? I'd also be interested how it supports .flac and other uncompressed audio codecs.
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I'm sure as soon as the masses get their nexus players and complain to Plex they won't be able to ignore us on the bugs; like the pausing issue in their last android release.
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I sure hope so... hopefully we can encourage people here to all send bug reports and complaints.
I've been trying to find out what the DAC is in the Shield Tablet and if it will support high resolution audio but there is nothing on Nvidia's site and any audio related search just goes on about the speakers.
I'm going to load up some 192KHz/24bit FLAC files and see how it goes. Looks like it supports most formats but there is no mention anywhere of high resolution audio support. I hope if does not down sample.
Anyone have any experience?
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I've been trying to find out what the DAC is in the Shield Tablet and if it will support high resolution audio but there is nothing on Nvidia's site and any audio related search just goes on about the speakers.
I'm going to load up some 192KHz/24bit FLAC files and see how it goes. Looks like it supports most formats but there is no mention anywhere of high resolution audio support. I hope if does not down sample.
Anyone have any experience?
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In same position, not much info to find about the DAC. My main usage plan is as car dashboard tablet, so i don't want to go all audiophile and guess i have to see how it will play out. Else i will probably just end up investing in a proper HDMI de-embedder.
It would however be nice to know just a little about the DAC.
It won't support high-res audio because Android doesn't, it'll resample everything to 48Khz, regardless of the capability of the DAC. The only exceptions are devices where the manufacturer has added support for it, from memory only LG and Samsung to date. If you want HD audio get a USB DAC and use USB Audio Player PRO (UAPP). I use my Dragonfly 1.2 with my Note 4 and Shield Tablet, it'll do high-res via UAPP (or Hiby or Onkyo music players, I prefer UAPP). Personally I have no need for HD audio, but the external DAC and amp runs rings around the audio quality and amplifier grunt in tablets and phones.
I know it is a bit overkill for a tablet, but considering X1's performance (same gpu,just more cores), it would be nice to know if the K1 can passthrough Hd audio via it's hdmi port.
Anyone tried ?
HI there! I'm very sorry but I wasn't active in this forum at XDA before now. I've been experimenting with this topic for some time now.
YES, The Shield tablets (regardless of versions) can passthrough bit-perfect sound, both stereo or 5.1 (and higher, depending on your stereo equipment).
So here's the deal:
1. You'll need an HDMI audio extractor. I recommend Monoprice's HDMI audio extractors, although there are slightly less expensive models out there, you can't really trust their specs.
2. A standard HDMI audio extractor can passthrough both digital (coaxial or TOSLINK S/PDIF) or digital-to-analog out. For surround sound you'll want an HDMI audio extractor with surround sound outputs.
Essentially it comes down to the media player you'll be using.
I've tested MX Player (with the custom codec loaded), VLC Player for Android, and Kodi. All can do passthrough IF you're using an HDMI extractor that will be identified as such (stereo-only or surround-sound capable) via HDMI. This critical.
Older versions of Kodi they called the "****ty" builds used LPCM bit-hacking to force a passthrough via HDMI. Newer releases require that a HDMI device handshake occurs so the media player will allow an appropriate passthrough to occur.
Unless you will be playing .MP4 files w/ 5.1 surround sound, I recommend MX Player for most music and video files. Passthrough works well on it when set up correctly. VLC is ok too, but the interface leaves something to be desired in my opinion.
Kodi can decode/passthrough 5.1 and higher via HDMI from .MP4 and other files although the user interface is less simplistic.
I am getting a bit sick and tired of messing around with my media server trying to get videos to work that play fine on all my other devices.
Got the Quest to play some games every now and then, but mainly to be able to watch my 3D movies again after my TV went up in smoke.
I am wondering:
Is it possible to somehow add the required libraries to the Gallery app or the discontinued Samsung VR player so videos with more than 2 channels can be watched with sound?
Otherwise I would have wasted almost 3 weeks of ripping my DVD's onto the server as of course I only converted them into MKV's while keeping all extras, like DTS and AC3 audio channels instead of converting to AAC or MP3.
I know you can modify apps for almost anything, but have no real clue how to "just" add some required audio libraries to an app
Just stumbled on this..
Here's my 2cents.
Not sure why you would be having struggles.
My setup;-
Asus RT-AC88u - USB 3.0 1TB Hard Drive connected - Running as a NAS
Connect with any device, including Oculus Quest vi same wifi network.
Stream 3D movies , others via SkyBox
Works great
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I am getting a bit sick and tired of messing around with my media server trying to get videos to work that play fine on all my other devices.
Got the Quest to play some games every now and then, but mainly to be able to watch my 3D movies again after my TV went up in smoke.
I am wondering:
Is it possible to somehow add the required libraries to the Gallery app or the discontinued Samsung VR player so videos with more than 2 channels can be watched with sound?
Otherwise I would have wasted almost 3 weeks of ripping my DVD's onto the server as of course I only converted them into MKV's while keeping all extras, like DTS and AC3 audio channels instead of converting to AAC or MP3.
I know you can modify apps for almost anything, but have no real clue how to "just" add some required audio libraries to an app
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