How to charge with PD 27W? - OnePlus 8T Questions & Answers

On xda site they said the OP8T can charge up to 27W with a PD charger however I tried many PD chargers with all kind of cables combination and it never goes above 1-5W.
I'm not the only one, there are many posts on reddit about this.
What's your experience on this?

Same over here, can't get it over 5w.
Charging voltage has something to do with it, what's ur charging voltage?

Using a digital usb meter I noticed all PD chargers stay a 9V with 0.45A output. I tried a kernel on XDA that it's supposed to force fast charging but i didn't do anything.

I find it very weird nobody is talking about this on XDA, only a few threads on reddit.
If you are outside and you don't have your stock OP 65W charger with you you have a high possibility of not being able to charge at all since it can take 5 hours to a day a this speed. How is this even legal?

-sandro- said:
I find it very weird nobody is talking about this on XDA, only a few threads on reddit.
If you are outside and you don't have your stock OP 65W charger with you you have a high possibility of not being able to charge at all since it can take 5 hours to a day a this speed. How is this even legal?
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I may be a little confused here, but I get pretty dang close to 27W of charging power when using my USB C charging brick that came with my Samsung Galaxy Book 360. Franco kernel manager usually says I average around 25W charging power. I'm assuming the USB brick is USB-C with PD.

azoller1 said:
I may be a little confused here, but I get pretty dang close to 27W of charging power when using my USB C charging brick that came with my Samsung Galaxy Book 360. Franco kernel manager usually says I average around 25W charging power. I'm assuming the USB brick is USB-C with PD.
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HI,
First of all (I'm using a usb tester) I noticed the cable has nothing to do with this problem. I have one BaseUS 100W PD charger, one UGreen 36W PD charger, one BaseUS 65W power bank and one 18W power bank. They are all able to provider PD charging at 12/20V at their maximum advertise wattage with my devices and a usb-c laptop. They can also provide 9V/3A (tested).
I noticed then when the battery is below 60% connected with a usb-c cable they all default to 9V/0.45A and sometimes even 0.22A (last night I left it to charge and in 8h it only charged 7%!) when above that you can get 5V/2.5A which is much better.
So I'm not sure what exactly those PD chargers are missing if they work with all other devices.
Also I find it weird you can see 25W from franco kernel since the phone shows half of the wattage being a dual battery. So yhat would be a real 50W.

Connected to a 100W PD charger at 1W
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Connected to a 100W PD charger at 1W
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Latest OOS?

Yes of course.

Bro, something is wrong.... I just tested my google chromecast with google tv power block and cable and I am getting this:

I'm sorry what is the link of this charger?

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I'm sorry what is the link of this charger?
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I don't know exactly, whatever google uses for this: https://store.google.com/us/product/chromecast_google_tv?hl=en-US

It's a 5V 1.5A so that value you see in FKM cannot be real.
You should use BatteryGuru and multiply by 2.

-sandro- said:
It's a 5V 1.5A so that value you see in FKM cannot be real.
You should use BatteryGuru and multiply by 2.
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Well I guess this block is different. It says 5V 3A or 9V 2A, so 18W would make sense no? I'll try a different app. This is from the battery guru app and electron app:

Yes makes sense now. I'll try to find other chargers at this point. I know everything I have is not supported by this phone.

It's like u can't find a compatible charger lol whatever charger I tried charges at 9v 1.8a until the phone reaches 65% and then it drops to 4.5v 0.4a and it takes ages to get from 65% to 100%
Idk what the hell is this problem but I know for sure it's their dual battery design messed up for real

Could anyone try monitoring charging voltage and amperage across different charging percentages and report back.
And for monitoring use OnePlus toolkit it's baked in the rom, *#800# to access it then tap on enter and tap on tools to see charger option and then choose it.
It displays the voltage and current without having to multiply it.

There was a thread at OP forums about this issue.
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I suppose the problem is also in the technology itself:
In contrast to USB Power Delivery and Qualcomm Quick Charge technology, which increases the voltage during fast charging, VOOC/Warp Charge/Dart Charge use a higher current than standard USB charging.
All versions of VOOC require a proprietary cable to work. In addition to electrical requirements like thickness (low electrical resistance) to handle the high currents without overheating, the VOOC 2.0/Dash protocol requires a fifth pin on the (USB-A to USB-C) cable to communicate through. Without such communication, the charger runs at a limit of 5 V/1.5 A. From VOOC 4.0 this limit elevated to 5V/2.0A.
On the Android phone end, the VOOC communication code is open source under GNU General Public License (GNU GPL) version 2 as a part of the modified Linux kernel, and has been used by custom ROMs like Lineage OS.
So i presume it's just not compatible with many PD chargers.

Oppo Gan Charger Kit supports 65W charging protocol,You can buy it about 80-90RMB on the Xianyu app 。There is also a power bank that supports 65W charging called Sdoutech but a little expensive , 400RMB/26800mah about four times for 8T

Mainly I want to charge with other chargers and power banks I already have not buying other VOOC chargers.
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I suppose the problem is also in the technology itself:
In contrast to USB Power Delivery and Qualcomm Quick Charge technology, which increases the voltage during fast charging, VOOC/Warp Charge/Dart Charge use a higher current than standard USB charging.
All versions of VOOC require a proprietary cable to work. In addition to electrical requirements like thickness (low electrical resistance) to handle the high currents without overheating, the VOOC 2.0/Dash protocol requires a fifth pin on the (USB-A to USB-C) cable to communicate through. Without such communication, the charger runs at a limit of 5 V/1.5 A. From VOOC 4.0 this limit elevated to 5V/2.0A.
On the Android phone end, the VOOC communication code is open source under GNU General Public License (GNU GPL) version 2 as a part of the modified Linux kernel, and has been used by custom ROMs like Lineage OS.
So i presume it's just not compatible with many PD chargers.
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I don't understand why it can't be compatible with many PD chargers if PD is a standard. What would be the discrimination factor here?
I tried charging the Pixel 6 that supports PD with every PD charger I have and they all deliver 23W, while on the OP8T all stuck on 5W or even less sometimes.

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[Q] Voltage on unofficial micro USB charger

My GF ran over my mains charger cable with the vacum cleanerr at the weekend, so i ordered i new one from Ebay. Rather stupidly (as an "official" one would only be £1 more), i bought this unbranded one:
UK MAINS CHARGER FOR SAMSUNG i5700 i9000 GALAXY S on eBay (end time 02-Apr-11 14:51:41 BST)
When it arrived i noticed that the output is different: 5.5v 500ma as opposed to 5v 700ma from the one that came with the phone.
I know tha ampage will affect charging speed, but am concerned about the extra 0.5 voltage. Is this safe to use?
I'm curious about this too... I thought the "U" in USB meant Universal.
I just ordered 2 micro USB chargers from Ebay for my GF's Sony Vivaz Pro and my Captivate... neither work.
Her's doesn't recognize the charger at all... mine beeps and says "charging", but the battery level never goes up.
My chargers are 5v 500mA.
The chargers were listed as Blackberry chargers, but had a long list of compatible phones underneath (none matched our phones, to be fair.)
Now I'm afraid to buy any more generic chargers....
I don't know if the output voltage is part of the USB standard or not. I know that computers output 5v and it seems like a lot of phone chargers also do. However, i've seen some external battery chargers listed as compatible with the SGS listed as 5.2v, so maybe theres an accepted voltage range? Does anyone know for sure if a 5.5v is acceptable?
I'm not sure why the ones you have don't work as the specs seem right,possibly they are faulty?
paddyb said:
I don't know if the output voltage is part of the USB standard or not. I know that computers output 5v and it seems like a lot of phone chargers also do. However, i've seen some external battery chargers listed as compatible with the SGS listed as 5.2v, so maybe theres an accepted voltage range? Does anyone know for sure if a 5.5v is acceptable?
I'm not sure why the ones you have don't work as the specs seem right,possibly they are faulty?
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Yeah, I'm not sure. I certainly thought so, even though it seemed pretty "unlucky" they both might be faulty.
I did ask the seller, and they claim they are NOT compatible with my phones, but I just don't get it. They're offering me a refund, but at $4 each it's hardly worth my time mailing them.
I found some forums online of a small handful of people like me with chargers that won't work. It seems people with this issue were using 500mA chargers, and anyone using a 700 or 1000 had no problems. This wasn't necessarily because all phones either require 500 or 1000.... Someone also said it's only very certain phones that are built this way. That they require newer, or more powerful chargers... but that it's not the case with all new phones/smartphones.
But there were others who said 500 should charge it, just more slowly.
I still think Micro usb is Micro usb, period. That's why the EU (and here) have been looking at making these chargers universal. I think I'll just try my luck again with another charger.
You could try this one, which claims to be (and looks like), an official SGS charger:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Samsung-i9000...ories_MobilePhoneChargers&hash=item2c5b2d355a
5.5V is supported. I've tested a very wide range of chargers for my SGS and all worked.
The voltage range of these chargers is 4.8V - 5.6V and all worked just fine.
I've actually got an original Nokia USB charger which is declared at 5.0v/550mA and it works like a charm...
Model is AC-6E:
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Well finally decided to give the ebay charger a go. Plugged it in, a green light lit up and plugged the phone in. The phone didn't recognise the charger, no indication the the notification bar that the battery was charging. Unplugged it and and tried again, and now the light on the charger doesn't even come on! Won't be using it again.
Another question on the topic : Is it save to use charger with higher Amperage ?
I mean original samsung one is 0.7A, could something go wrong if I´ll use 1.0A charger? Thanks
EDIT : Answer no needed anymore - found it in another topic. It should be safe
I believe any microUSB charger will be safe. Ideally, you want the highest voltage and highest current possible.
I've heard that the phone will use the data lines to tell the USB charger what voltage to set. This ensures voltage compatibility. Then the phone itself regulates the current.. it will only draw as many amps as it needs. So if the PSU can handle 2A, your device may only draw 0.725a for example, but it's safe. You want a high current one to ensure the phone has all it can take.
BTW, I'm not an EE person, so double check what I said.
I fear it's not that simple, especially with dumb chargers that can't negotiate current using the USB protocol, and instead may short the data lines, in various ways, instead to tell the device what current to draw...
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There's an explanation here of why different chargers do indeed make a difference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usb#Power
see in particular the note on the Battery Charger Spec.
In particular. my own testing shows I can go from 500ma to 700mA charging current simply by changing a small connector in line between the 7Ahr battery I'm using to charge the phone, and the phone. That's due to the nature of the short on the data pins.
There are proprietary tweaks to this mechanism; e.g. iPhones use voltage signalling between the two data lines and ground to indicate various things to the device.
All of this is only for "hosts", i.e. chargers etc, that don't implement the USB protocol and so can't engage in the normal current negotation that occurs when connecting e.g. the device to a PC.
Would i **** it up pluging a 5.8 volts solar charger on my phone?
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Would i **** it up pluging a 5.8 volts solar charger on my phone?
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It's a bit too high.
You have to know that slow charge = long battery life and fast charge = more battery drain after a couple of years maybe months
HdX75 said:
It's a bit too high.
You have to know that slow charge = long battery life and fast charge = more battery drain after a couple of years maybe months
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So usb charging is better then wall charging with original charger? because i noticed that my phone hold it`s charge better if i use the wall charger.
Pezmet said:
So usb charging is better then wall charging with original charger? because i noticed that my phone hold it`s charge better if i use the wall charger.
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Maybe because the current is higher. My battery voltage is arround 4200mV at 100% and 4100mV with USB
For the solar charger 5.8 is really high but the wall charger is ok
guys can anyone tell me what would be the reason that my Samsung j7 prime charger is giving me 4.63v instead of 5v .. the rating is 5v on the charger. is that possible the ic or some other thing is damaged? in that case what would be solution?

Fast Charging "Homemade". What are the risks?

I lost my original Fast Charger in my school and now I'm without one. The problem is, that sometimes I need that great feature.
My question is, can I disassembly a random 9V charger and "adapt" a Micro-USB cable to it? Since the GS6 supports 9V I don't see a problem there. Or must I short some data pins in order to enable fast charging to not fry the device?
Why don't you just buy a new one?
I definitely think that's not a good idea. Buy a new one. If you are worried about Samsung charger price you can buy a cheaper charger that support Qualcomm 2.0 quickcharge, it's compatible.
I thought the whole thing was dynamic, that at lower battery levels it charges at different amperage than higher levels, and at a certain point it kicks over to 5V. It doesn't charge at 9V the whole time.
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@quarlow is right, it's dynamic.
You should buy a new one, much more safe.
If I plug a normal 'old' 600mA 5V charger to it, it says that it will charge in 6 HOURS! I can't wait for that.
I have disassembled the charger, unsolded the Female USB plug and solded it to an 9V charger from an TP-Link Switch.
I plugged it in and the phone started charging. It says "Cable charging" instead of "Fast charging" and it stated 6 hours too. After that, I shorted the data pins and then the time reduced to 2 hours...
I also tried a 12V charger (1.5A), but it don't charged, nor maked any charging sound.
Now I concluded two things:
1. Samsung S6 phones are very robust with charger voltages :silly:
2. It isn't that easy to make a fast charger.
I hope I have saved some questions now
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Thanks for all the replies, but now I haven't money to buy one. Where I live, they are really expensive!
Oh, aaand, I don't know if it's a good idea to charge at 9V the whole time, because when it reaches 100%, I hear constantly the charging sound.
Looking at a Samsung Travel Adapter change...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/54xt2u315nn1tkt/2015-09-27 14.04.18-1.jpg?dl=0
Output is: 9v at 1.67A, or 5v at 2.0A. It's listed as an adaptive charger.
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Output is: 9v at 1.67A
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Thanks, I will search for an 9V charger that has this amperage.
Btw, some chargers have adaptive 12V output.... Is that QuickCharge 3.0?
A normal Samsung or LG charger of 1.8A/2A output still charge my S6 in about 1.5 hours. Get one from a relative or friend or buy one if the S6 charger is too costly
Fullmetal Jun said:
Get one from a relative or friend or buy one if the S6 charger is too costly
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I tried already. These options are not available
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Fusseldieb said:
I lost my original Fast Charger in my school and now I'm without one. The problem is, that sometimes I need that great feature.
My question is, can I disassembly a random 9V charger and "adapt" a Micro-USB cable to it? Since the GS6 supports 9V I don't see a problem there. Or must I short some data pins in order to enable fast charging to not fry the device?
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the factory charger got in fire sometimes i don know abt home-made chargers... take care dude
You gotta be kidding. Spend $10 and get a QuickCharge 2.0 adapter.
Don't risk it. Samsung Fast Charge is the same thing as Qualcomm Quick Charge. It's Qualcomm's technology, licensed with no loyalty fee.
QuickCharge 2.0 uses the data pins to negotiate the charge voltage with your power adapter. Otherwise it just uses 5V.
I see on my S6 it stays at 9V all the time. The phone pulls the current it needs, so you don't have to try to match that current on the power adapter side. Just make sure it's at least 1.6A, preferably 2A. I never saw my S6 pulling 2A at 5V or 9V.
I'd imagen as this a form for devs . And this guy is trying to create somthing . The devs would be a bit more yaknow . Creative. First off
The guy is trying to make the adaptive charger .give him a bit of credit . I'm currently making a portable charger and I want it to use samsung fast charge
I'm using 18650 battery's 4.2 volts fully charged 3.7 volts give or take when they sag.
So if there is anyone with half a brain out there. How do you get the 9v (8.4) amp to make it a fast charger ( under one and a half hours. ) I'll worry about building the switch to the 5 volts after ( 4.2)
Is it loop the pins . Pin to earth pin to positive loop pins to negative ) the information isn't out there so surely some one has the information. ( just FYI the sgs6 is perfectly capable of being charged at 9 volts. The battery is a nine volt according to the build information explains why charging with any other charger takes 6 hours. .
Also to the op if you did indeed have a similar idea to me just tell erm straight I wanna mess about with low current and voltage dc haha. ( also I tried 18 volts samsung phones do no alow the charge over 9volts so it cannot hurt you're phone

Mi 4C Charging Current (simple test)

I have found Mi 4C's charging current quite bizarre, more so than what was shown in: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-4c/general/xiaomi-mi-4c-charging-analysis-part-1-t3209028
I don't have fancy equipment so I just downloaded the Ampere app to test the charging current. While the app is not meant to be an accurate measure of the current, I find its result quite consistent with the charging time that I obtain. (My Mi 4C is running TS CM13.)
Results:
1. Original charger + original cable = 4.41V/1220mA
Not sure if the voltage measurement is correct. I thought it would be 9V as indicated in the post which I link to above. But at least the current is quite consistent with what the others have got. It takes around 2 hours for an full charge.
2. Computer USB 2.0 port + original cable = 4.24V/250mA
It takes forever to charge. I have no idea why the current is so low. The same USB port is able to output 450mA on another phone.
3. Original Charger + 3rd party cable = 4.21V/170mA
I have no other USB Type-C device so I can't test if the cable is functioning properly. But this is just weird.
4. Portable Charger (5V/1A output) + original cable = 4.36V/860mA
This feels normal.
So I have two questions:
1. Why is charging through computer USB port so slow? I have selected "Charging only", not running any ADB.
2. Can Mi 4C work well with 3rd party cables?
It would be great if you could share your charging experience with Mi 4C. Thanks in advance.
I think the thing with Ampere is, it needs to have your screen on to measure. And it doesn't really measure the current, it takes the average charge rate of your battery and converts that to Amperes based on your total battery capacity (that is why it takes a few seconds to show). So whatever you read in ampere is your net charge rate, not what the charger is providing (whatever is draining your battery is included in the equation, your screen will be the biggest drain, you can test this with the brightness).
So that is why your usb charging looks like it's at half rate, it is probably 450-500 when the screen is off.
The 4c works well with 3rd party cables, provided they are not faulty of course. After all, the original cable is also just a transformed usb 2.0
The phone will basically never pull more power than it can handle. The charger however could be damaged if it's coupled with a bad cable and a device that draws more power.
legacyofthevoid said:
I have found Mi 4C's charging current quite bizarre, more so than what was shown in: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-4c/general/xiaomi-mi-4c-charging-analysis-part-1-t3209028
I don't have fancy equipment so I just downloaded the Ampere app to test the charging current. While the app is not meant to be an accurate measure of the current, I find its result quite consistent with the charging time that I obtain. (My Mi 4C is running TS CM13.)
Results:
1. Original charger + original cable = 4.41V/1220mA
Not sure if the voltage measurement is correct. I thought it would be 9V as indicated in the post which I link to above. But at least the current is quite consistent with what the others have got. It takes around 2 hours for an full charge.
2. Computer USB 2.0 port + original cable = 4.24V/250mA
It takes forever to charge. I have no idea why the current is so low. The same USB port is able to output 450mA on another phone.
3. Original Charger + 3rd party cable = 4.21V/170mA
I have no other USB Type-C device so I can't test if the cable is functioning properly. But this is just weird.
4. Portable Charger (5V/1A output) + original cable = 4.36V/860mA
This feels normal.
So I have two questions:
1. Why is charging through computer USB port so slow? I have selected "Charging only", not running any ADB.
2. Can Mi 4C work well with 3rd party cables?
It would be great if you could share your charging experience with Mi 4C. Thanks in advance.
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look at this!
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/charging-analysis-between-oneplus-2-and-xiaomi-mi-4c.387573/
The AMPERE App shows you the current chargeing ampere minus the usage and no Votlage from the charger!
The app show you 4,41 V and 1220 mA that says the battery has a voltage 4,41 V that is the charge state (battery %) and the
1220 mA say that the charger charge with that speed minus the actual using (-~300mA) 1220+300=1520 mA voltage unknow
Can't really say that Ampere or any other app for that matter is accurate in measuring the charging current. I would say get an actual hardware (i know there's one that you connect to the charger) that measures charging current if you really want to test charging current that bad.
As for me I only charge my phone in 2 different ways:
1. Thru the stock wall charger. From 0-100, it takes roughly 2hrs and 20mins. Quite fast for a battery with 3080mAh. Slower when compared to other 2015 devices with quick charge 2.0 i.e. the LG G4 that charges 0-60 in 30mins vs the Mi 4c's 0-40 in 1hr. Hopefully this is just a kernel limitation which remains to be seen till Xiaomi releases the kernel source.
2. Thru my powerbank with 2A output which takes about 3hrs+ from 0 to 100
Try this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slash.electron&hl=en
I think the decision of making USB 2.0 with type-C connector is kinda faulty. I tried using my Mi Pad 2's cable which is a true type-C and the charging time is much faster. I don't want to use 4c's cable anymore.
So far the most effective combination for me has been aftermarket qc2.0 charger and factory cable. With that combo, charge times have been comparable to my moto x (2014)
Using any of my micro USB cables with a type c adapter has resulted in substantially slower charge times, regardless of charger.
I have a couple other third party type c cables coming tomorrow. Hopefully I can find another successful combination.
does it come with usb3 (+cable)?
As far as I know it's a standard USB cable with a type C end slapped on it.
sounds kinda useless
I wouldn't go so far as to say its useless. It charges the phone and allows for data transfer. Those are fairly useful things.
well, i was more relating to the nature of the cable as stated before:
leledumbo said:
I think the decision of making USB 2.0 with type-C connector is kinda faulty. I tried using my Mi Pad 2's cable which is a true type-C and the charging time is much faster. I don't want to use 4c's cable anymore.
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anyway, i got the phone myself now and gonna try some other cables/chargers. my plan is to compare AUKEY, Blitzwolf, RAVPower and Qualcomm devices. big effort, but i have made pretty bad experiences with chargers (slow, noisy etc...)
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i have tested a new Car charges from China... QC2 and it Works very good! the Phone charges veeery fast
Gesendet von meinem Mi-4c

Xiaomi's latest 10000mAh power bank offers USB Type-C for $22

http://www.androidcentral.com/xiaomis-latest-10000mah-power-bank-offers-usb-type-c-22
And the big Q... will it rapid-charge the Nexus-6P.... anyone?
I´m not sure if this Power Bank can charge the Nexus 6P fast ( 5V @ 3A ). I´ve tested a iVoler 10000mAh USB Type C Power Bank before and this one works great with the Nexus 6P.
The Xiaomi is much much smaller...
Quick Specs:
Input Voltage : 12V/9V/5V
Output Voltage : 12V/9V/5V
Input Current : 12V 1.5A/9V 2A/5V 2A(TYP)
Output Current : 10180mAh/39.19Wh(TYP)
Rated capacity : 3.6V/10000mAh(TYP)
Size : 128.5*75*12.6mm
Load detection : Auto-detect the plug-in and plug-out of devices
Weight : 223g
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seems like it could only charge at 2A for 5V
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http://www.androidcentral.com/xiaomis-latest-10000mah-power-bank-offers-usb-type-c-22
And the big Q... will it rapid-charge the Nexus-6P.... anyone?
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No. I just received it today, and the usb-c interface is for charging the battery only. The legacy USB interface is said to support fast charging, but it didn't when I connected it to my Nexus 6P; it charged the phone at normal speeds.
I suspect the advertising around "bi directional usb-c" means simply you can plug the cable in both ways, and "fast charging" means you can charge the *battery* quicker.
In fact, if you connect the battery and a Nexus 6P via a usb-c cable, the phone starts charging the battery!
trammel said:
In fact, if you connect the battery and a Nexus 6P via a usb-c cable, the phone starts charging the battery!
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This is true on many (all?) batteries that allow you to both charge or discharge on the Type-C port. You might have to push the power button for the phone to start charging. What happens if you unplug the Type-C cable, push the power button on the battery, and then plug the Type-C cable back in? Does the phone start drawing power from the battery instead of charging the external battery?
IF the phone starts charging itself from the external battery, can you please let us know how much power is being delivered per the Ampere app? I'd be curious to know this. I couldn't find anything on Xiaomi's web site that gave a definitive output current number.
Pbrah said:
This is true on many (all?) batteries that allow you to both charge or discharge on the Type-C port. You might have to push the power button for the phone to start charging. What happens if you unplug the Type-C cable, push the power button on the battery, and then plug the Type-C cable back in? Does the phone start drawing power from the battery instead of charging the external battery?
IF the phone starts charging itself from the external battery, can you please let us know how much power is being delivered per the Ampere app? I'd be curious to know this. I couldn't find anything on Xiaomi's web site that gave a definitive output current number.
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Nope, pressing the button on the battery makes no difference (before or after being plugged in to the phone). The USB-C port is purely for charging the battery, not for using the battery to charge other devices.
I've attached a scan of the booklet that came with the battery. You'll need to read Chinese (I can't) to understand it though. 2 colleagues have told me it explicitly says only the legacy USB port can be used to charge other devices.
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Nope, pressing the button on the battery makes no difference (before or after being plugged in to the phone). The USB-C port is purely for charging the battery, not for using the battery to charge other devices.
I've attached a scan of the booklet that came with the battery. You'll need to read Chinese (I can't) to understand it though. 2 colleagues have told me it explicitly says only the legacy USB port can be used to charge other devices.
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That stinks. Thanks a lot for the heads up, I was considering buying one to compare to the Orico battery.
the part that says USB接口(输出) means USB port(output)
the Type C接口(输入) means Type C port(input)
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No. I just received it today, and the usb-c interface is for charging the battery only. The legacy USB interface is said to support fast charging, but it didn't when I connected it to my Nexus 6P; it charged the phone at normal speeds.
I suspect the advertising around "bi directional usb-c" means simply you can plug the cable in both ways, and "fast charging" means you can charge the *battery* quicker.
In fact, if you connect the battery and a Nexus 6P via a usb-c cable, the phone starts charging the battery!
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Boo!
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Argh... I wish I read this thread before I purchased this. I can confirm that the USB C does not output a charge. Really disappointed as all the reviews I've read led me to believe the USB C port was both an input and output. I've attached a screenshot of what I'm getting per Ampere. Oh, and I know this is in the Nexus 6P thread, but I'm actually using this with my Nexus 5X.
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I cant find the Xaiomi on any website
I fell for the same ****. I got mine today for $60 AUD, the only reason i paid that is there is no power banks in Australia that support USB-C. The USB-C port is only for charging the power bank, you can also charge the power bank using your phone. Xiaomi mi 10000mah doesn't rapid charge.
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I'd assume so, Chinese only instructions. I'm on a tab at the moment, can't view the pic.
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Hi guys, sorry for the UP but I bought the power bank today and I run into your same issues.
I saw a video (in bangladeshian, LOL) that actually from Type C port you can fast-charge the Nexus 6P, and also if the phone is off, it starts to get fast-charged by the battery via USB-C.
So basically, is there a question to disable "Nexus power output"? This way the USB quick charging should work fine.
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Argh... I wish I read this thread before I purchased this. I can confirm that the USB C does not output a charge. Really disappointed as all the reviews I've read led me to believe the USB C port was both an input and output. I've attached a screenshot of what I'm getting per Ampere. Oh, and I know this is in the Nexus 6P thread, but I'm actually using this with my Nexus 5X.
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Damn , maybe because it's usb a to C , so the Ampere really low
This powerbank looks quite nice but it doesn't support USB Type-C Fast Charging. It only supports 2.0A output so it won't charge the Nexus 6P or 5X at full speed . Looks like I'm gonna be looking elsewhere.
The usb-c port is for charging the power bank only. It does not rapid charge.
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According to people in this reddit post it quickly charges the Nexus 6P if you use a different cable than the one it ships with. Only from the USB-A port though.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nexus5x/comments/49xj4c/just_got_my_hands_on_the_xiaomi_10000mah_mi_power/
I bought one as well.
It does NOT charge via the USB C port, it is only an input port.
So no quick charging with it unfortunately.

Quick Charging with Aftermarket Chargers?

I'm sure this phone works fine with aftermarket chargers like the Anker PowerPort Atom PD 2, but will it charge the phone faster? While the 18W fast charger included with the phone is good, it is admittedly slow to charge the massive battery this thing has.. I don't really care about reducing the lifetime of the battery all that much given that i usually don't use a single phone for longer than an year so i'd be happy if an aftermarket charger can charge the phone faster without setting it on fire.. Any thoughts?
I currently use USB-PD 30W charger + type Cs cable, and it shown fast charging. But I am not sure which standard it use because it also support QC4+, MTK PumpCharging, VOOC, Samsung's adaptive charging and Huawei super charge XD
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I currently use USB-PD 30W charger + type Cs cable, and it shown fast charging. But I am not sure which standard it use because it also support QC4+, MTK PumpCharging, VOOC, Samsung's adaptive charging and Huawei super charge XD
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Haha that sounds sketchy. Does it seem like it's charging the phone faster tho?
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Haha that sounds sketchy. Does it seem like it's charging the phone faster tho?
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Yes, it's faster AND cooler than stock QC3 charger, sometimes it shown
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Instead “quick charging“. I think my begonia begonning confused
ScarletVeil said:
I currently use USB-PD 30W charger + type Cs cable, and it shown fast charging. But I am not sure which standard it use because it also support QC4+, MTK PumpCharging, VOOC, Samsung's adaptive charging and Huawei super charge XD
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What charger is that? Mind sending me a link, sounds interesting... Weird though, TURBO CHARGE ?
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Yes, it's faster AND cooler than stock QC3 charger, sometimes it shown
Instead “quick charging“. I think my begonia begonning confused
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Sketchy as it is used for marking 30W wireless and 100W wired I believe. Mind using an app that checks the reall wattage speed? Maybe (Ampere)?
Redmi Note 8 Pro uses Type-C interface, and the data transmission standard is USB2.0. Supports Quick charge4 + fast charge protocol, USB Power Delivery (USB PD) fast charge protocol, MediaTek Pump Express 2.0, 4.0.
Give me link for charger Turbo plisss
For me the pixel 2xls charger is showing turbo charging screen as posted above.. charging at 3300 to 3500 mah on accubattery..
For the Stock charger it never went above 3000mah
On stock have 2400 max that way need New charger
I use "Baseus adapter 30W" its quick charge if you use usb cable to tpye c, but this charger use turbo charge if use type c to type c cable
i compare this adapter with stock adapter
this time im compare with app battrey log
fast charging Usb to tpye C (Stock cable)
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stock adapter
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start time : 17:27
percentage : 14%
Stop time : 19:24
Percentage : 97% .
Total Time : 1h 57m
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Baseus charger adapter 30W
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Start time : 09:24
Percentage 14%
Stop Time 11:11
Percentage : 97%
Total Time : 1h 47m
there is a difference of 10 minutes with a stock adapter
ScarletVeil said:
I currently use USB-PD 30W charger + type Cs cable, and it shown fast charging. But I am not sure which standard it use because it also support QC4+, MTK PumpCharging, VOOC, Samsung's adaptive charging and Huawei super charge XD
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What`s the brand/model number of this charger please.
Thanks.
Helhound0 said:
I'm sure this phone works fine with aftermarket chargers like the Anker PowerPort Atom PD 2, but will it charge the phone faster? While the 18W fast charger included with the phone is good, it is admittedly slow to charge the massive battery this thing has.. I don't really care about reducing the lifetime of the battery all that much given that i usually don't use a single phone for longer than an year so i'd be happy if an aftermarket charger can charge the phone faster without setting it on fire.. Any thoughts?
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My Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 charger shows quick charge. It's one from Hama I got a couple months ago for about 20-30 quid. I am pretty sure any QQC 3.0 charger will work
So is it beneficial to go for aftermarket chargers, specially while using custom roms?

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