So I'm cheap. I do not want to pay an extra $30 for data on my fuze. Shortly after buying my fuze, I immediately called up AT&T and asked them to turn off data, because my phone was constantly trying to connect to 3g, and from previous experiences I know it will rack up my bill since I am without a data plan.
Anyway I've been searching around because data on this phone would be nice to have when I am outside of wifi. I noticed how at&t offered prepay data on select go phones for between $10-20 per month (Link http://www.phonenews.com/att-gophone-prepaid-adds-data-only-option-3381/. I thought sweet! But then what about voice and texting? I need voice and texting, and it would be nice to stay on my family's plan since I am not paying for it.
Then I started reading about dual sim's and dual sim adapters and thought what if I could have my current sim (unlim. voice, unlim. text, no data) and add in the 2nd sim card of one of those special prepay data phones and have my fuze run off of that for 3g data.
I have read with dual sim adapters it sounds like you have to switch between the 2 of them, so would that mean I could use only one at a time? Meaning if I am on the second data only sim, I could not receive texts or calls until I switch back to my main sim?
If this configuration could work simultaneously than it would be PERFECT. But if theres anyone out there with more insight, please let me know. Thanks
first of all. 3g is not only data. 3G is basically a faster connection (that also includes phone calls). [unless i'm wrong, this is how I understand 3g]
second. I don't think there is a dual sim adapter for the touch pro, but it also kind of makes the phone look horrible (assuming it's connected to some port since there is no room for another sim card).
Only specific phones can handle dual sims like KIRF iphone nano so it's not really worth it to save 10 bucks a month since you'll be spending money anyways, to get this adapter of yours.
I think there is finally a dual sim adapter for the touch pro...
Check this out:
http://www.simore.ch/en/two_sim_cards_in_one_mobile/dual_sim_card_gold_1.php
wow. That's kinda crazy to see that you have to cut up your sim card to fit it inside the dual sim adapter...
mike3000 said:
So I'm cheap. I do not want to pay an extra $30 for data on my fuze. Shortly after buying my fuze, I immediately called up AT&T and asked them to turn off data, because my phone was constantly trying to connect to 3g, and from previous experiences I know it will rack up my bill since I am without a data plan.
Anyway I've been searching around because data on this phone would be nice to have when I am outside of wifi. I noticed how at&t offered prepay data on select go phones for between $10-20 per month (Link http://www.phonenews.com/att-gophone-prepaid-adds-data-only-option-3381/. I thought sweet! But then what about voice and texting? I need voice and texting, and it would be nice to stay on my family's plan since I am not paying for it.
Then I started reading about dual sim's and dual sim adapters and thought what if I could have my current sim (unlim. voice, unlim. text, no data) and add in the 2nd sim card of one of those special prepay data phones and have my fuze run off of that for 3g data.
I have read with dual sim adapters it sounds like you have to switch between the 2 of them, so would that mean I could use only one at a time? Meaning if I am on the second data only sim, I could not receive texts or calls until I switch back to my main sim?
If this configuration could work simultaneously than it would be PERFECT. But if theres anyone out there with more insight, please let me know. Thanks
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Interesting thought. Bad news is they won't work simultaneously - however you can have the autoswitch every hour or so if you wanted.
Personally I'm not sure its really worth the effort. First off, you have to buy the adapter - which is going to cost you close to 100 bucks, then you'll need the gophone and it's sim-chip and the monthy prepay on that. By the time you add all this up you might as well just blow the 30 bucks on a data plan and save yourself the headace.
However the ability to now have dual sims in the FUZE is great. I suppose if you traveled a lot it could prove quite handy.
I've already decided to buy the GN 10.1 (as my first tablet) long ago as I think the pen ability will be very useful for my productivity.
Now that, after a long waiting, it's finally (almost) available for purchase I must choose the right model for me.
My dilemma is:
1) WIFI only or WIFI+3G?
I don't plan to use the tablet as a phone. I've my wifi at home and there will be shortly a wifi connection available in my school.
But what if I'm traveling around, in some place with no WIFI and I need a map or getting some info from the internet? Will I regret not having 3G?
(BTW, does handwriting recognition need internet connection?)
In Europe (Italy) the 3G model will cost about €120 more than the equivalent WIFI only model (+22%).
Will it be worth it?
Alternatively: is it possible and how complicated is it to create a hotspot to connect the GN to my cell (Motorola Atrix) and use the cell data connection (in case of need)?
2) 16GB or 32GB?
I don't think I'll use the Note much for videos, so I think 16Gb (plus the SD Card) should be enough. But maybe some extra storage will come handy in the future...?
What would you advice for storing plenty of notes, pdf, books, office documents for a planned life-span of at least 2 years?
The 32GB model has an extra price of about €60 (+11%).
Thanks for any advice you can give
I went for the Wi-Fi version. If you go for the 3g version, you'll need an extra SIM card, which will cost more. If you have an android phone and a data plan, you can tether the 3g to your Wi-Fi tablet.
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If you have mobile internet on your Atrix, the best thing would be to tether that to a Wifi version its way cheaper -120€ - Extra sim with monthly costs.
I'm having issue's in choosing aswell my Galaxy S3 has 16gb internally and i cannot install apps on my micro sd, is it the same with the Note? If yes i will go for the 32gb if no 16gb will be enough with a 32gb micro sd.
Thanks.
I think you're right about WIFI vs WIFI+3G and I'm rather convinced now.
Furthermore I've just made a test with the Atrix working as a hotspot and connecting my old laptop to it and I've realized that it's rather simple to set it up and working.
You can even put a button on your home screen to do the work for you.
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It depends. I just ordered a 3G version/16GB.
* 16GB vs 32GB -- I think a 16GB model is perfectly useful, and the extra cost of the 32GB unit is not justified (you pay $50+ more for the extra 16GB, while you can get a 64GB microsd card for the same price). I could not find a legit 3G/32GB unit to buy anyway, so I ended up with 16GB. I use a 64GB microSD card, so this is really not an issue.
* WiFi vs 3G -- now that really depends on how you plan on using it, where you live, how easily you can get WiFi throughout the day. For me, it was a bit of a toss-up, and I do have a Verizon 4G MiFi I can use, so a WiFi version would make sense. However, I have a 2-year AT&T contract, with data (which I took to get the Samsung Galaxy SIII upgrade, which I am now replacing with the GN10.1), so I opted for 3G (otherwise I'd be paying AT&T for nothing).
Ultimately, here's my take:
- If you are price-concious, a 16GB/WiFi version would be perfectly useful.
- If you truly need constant data access, and plan on paying monthly for a phone company data plan (or already have one ), get the 16GB/3G version
- If you you have a lot of local media and don't mind spending an extra $50 on a measly 16GB increase, get the 32GB version
- If you want nothing but the mostest and the bestest , wait for the Samsung P10 tablet
If you can afford it get the 32GB or 64GB with cellular. Since the GN 10.1 is a perfect digital notepad, productivity and consumption device that you'll likely be carrying with you all the time it's convenient to have cellular built in not only for data connectivity but also for fielding calls (through speakerphone or bluetoth headset) while taking notes, doing work, researching materials/internet, etc. Eliminates the need for the extra phone.
Thanks meanvulcan
I'm making up my mind.
WiFi vs 3G > WiFi
I'll use my Atrix as an Hotspot in case I need data connection out of my WiFi covered areas.
I don't think is wise to pay an extra 20% for something I'll never probably use and have the trouble to buy another extra Sim Card too.
16GB vs 32G > 16GB
I think it's enough for my needs. Only doubt is (as Mafiatounes pointed out): is it possible to move apps to the SD Card?
Yes it is possible to move apps to SD card I believe that was a feature introduced in froyo.
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Indeed and it works on almost all phones except the S3 does not have this option, can anyone owning a Note have a look?
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I agree that the difference between 16GB vs. 32GB isn't a big deal with the ability to use a class 10 64GB MicroSD. I disagree about skipping 3G. And while I know I'm in the minority here's why I feel that way:
1) Tethering is a pain in the ass. Take out phone, activate Wi-Fi sharing, connect tablet, disconnect tablet, disable Wi-Fi sharing. Forget the last step and you're phone's battery is toast.
2) The Note has a 7,000mAh battery and my phone is 1800mAh. The phone powering the tablet is backwards. I don't want to have to worry about my phone battery dying in order to get my tablet online. And since the Note's also a phone I use it for long conference calls that would otherwise require me to have my phone connected to AC power to get through the call.
3) A 3G device is always on. E-mail and all the syncs are constantly updated. When I hit the power button I'm online and ready to go. On a Wi-Fi device you have to go through item number one above to get online and then wait for everything to update once it's connected before you can really use it.
My mail accounts are replicated on my phone and tablet. I can grab either to compose or respond to a message instantly. If it's short I'll use my phone, long I'll go for the tablet. If I had to do item number one every time I'd use my tablet a lot less and to me (YMMV) it's worth what I pay each month to AT&T for that convenience.
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2) The Note has a 7,000mAh battery and my phone is 1800mAh. The phone powering the tablet is backwards. I don't want to have to worry about my phone battery dying in order to get my tablet online. And since the Note's also a phone I use it for long conference calls that would otherwise require me to have my phone connected to AC power to get through the call.
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Convenience costs money so cellular is great if you can afford it otherwise tethering is fine. As far as phone battery on hotspot there's always an outlet nearby or possibly feeding off of the tablet via USB cable. I used to do that with my laptop but haven't tried if GN 10.1 supplies power through USB.
I'm also debating on the whole WiFi/3G thing. I currently have the WiFi version and plan on returning it for a 3G. I don't plan on adding the device to my plan though; I plan on just swapping my SIM with my phone when I need to and would like the convenience of having 3G and being able to make calls on my Note 10.1.
Is a SIM card required in the 3G one at all times? Can it be used without the SIM without any issues?
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I'm also debating on the whole WiFi/3G thing. I currently have the WiFi version and plan on returning it for a 3G. I don't plan on adding the device to my plan though; I plan on just swapping my SIM with my phone when I need to and would like the convenience of having 3G and being able to make calls on my Note 10.1.
Is a SIM card required in the 3G one at all times? Can it be used without the SIM without any issues?
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No, it works fine without a SIM. Who is your carrier? You can add it to an existing AT&T account with voice calling and (truly) unlimited data for either $20 or $25 a month with no commitment.
I would love to get the 32GB Wifi/3G version in white but since my carrier is Sprint, it wouldn't make sense for me to get the 3G version. I'll just connect the tablet to my Tri-Fi unit and be on either 3G, Wimax or LTE.
So the choice gets smaller to only having a wifi unit. But what sucks about that is that Samsung has only made the white version in either 16GB Wifi or 32GB with 3G. There isn't a 32GB wifi only model.
So that being the case, I am either left with having to buy a 16GB White Wifi model or a grey 32GB model if I wanted more internal space.
Can somebody confirm for me if apps can be moved to the sdcard. I thought I read that with ICS/JB that is no longer possible.
If so, then my only choice would be to get the 32GB Wifi version.
Edit: just noticed the other thread about apps to sd card.
TS
Just put an NFC tag on the back of your tablet that configures a WiFi hotspot on your phone, and turn on WiFi (or leave it on all the time since the battery is massive) on your tablet.
The solution is as simple as touching your phone to your tablet.
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...BTW, does handwriting recognition need internet connection?
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... or is the recognition engine fully internal and fully working also with no internet connection?
Can someone answer this?
Thanks
I went for wifi 16GB:
Reasons for wifi:
1) I can just tether to my N7000
2) 3G units are "grey market" imports
3) Significantly more expensive
Reasons for only 16GB:
1) A 32GB SD card costs significantly less than adding 16GB of internal storage In fact, it looks like you could probably buy two 32GB cards for less than $50 looking on Amazon. The only time you may have issues is IF you play very large games - some of these have issues with moving their data to external storage.
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... or is the recognition engine fully internal and fully working also with no internet connection?
Can someone answer this?
Thanks
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Handwriting recognition does not need an internet connection,its fully internal and works wonderfully.
Well the impatient part of me could not hold out any longer and I got the white 16GB white version today. I am so loving it.
TS
Hi,
I live on a boat and don't have access to regular fixed wifi... In the UK, I can get an unlimited LTE data deal and use the wifi tether router android app to use all of this as for my home wifi needs, while the phone company just thinks I am using data on my phone (not a hotspot)
However, I've just come to the USA for a three month road trip (new York to cali and back) and trying to organise my wifi (to tether our two phones, sat nav, and any work on the laptop I might need to do), and the networks here are nuts.
First of all, unlimited data is pretty expensive (I pay about $25 in the UK a month, here it is like 70$ for a much ****ter deal)
Secondly, all the big networks are telling my that my Samsung Galaxy S4 LTE variant (that I use as my internet router) is too old. (it's only 2013!!!). In England, all the networks have LTE, 3G and 2G bands that any phone can at least connect to something. Why do the networks obsolete phones here? I'm speculating in Europe we probably have legislation to prevent against this and protect the consumer, but in reality I have no idea.
AT&T said their network could use this phone, but the sim isn't even recognising (it's an unlocked international version, so not really sure what's going on here)... So now I'm stuck with the third ****test network for a month when I could have gotten verison or T-Mobile
So... I'm thinking I need to buy a newer phone to use as an internet router
So... Question is...
Is there any phone modern enough to be used on modern USA networks like Verison or T-Mobile AND has RF antenna ports (like the Samsung galaxy S4) so that I can plug it into an antenna when I get home (I don't want to upgrade my phone just for the trip if I can't then use it with an antenna when I get back home?)|
Any other idea's or solutions to my problem?
Should I just jail break my iPhone S6+ and use mifi instead for this trip?
Thanks in advance,
I would use the Galaxy S4 as a hot spot and keep it permanently connected to the antenna.. allowing you to buy any phone you want, just connect to the hotspot when needed.
Here in AUS you can get a secondary simcard which we call a "data sim".. as the name suggests its a simcard connected to the same account that strictly only has access to usage data on the plan, no calls.. we usally use them in tablets. Might be worth looking into if you want to only have the one active plan.
I found something interesting and I had to share. At Walmart they sell those portable hotspot devices ( specifically mine's ZTE z291dl ) but their data plans are crazy IMO. For 5gb it's like $50! And it has a data cap! I've got a S6 edge ( g925a ) with a BYOP ST nano sim. Using a micro sim card adapter (one size larger) I can put that in the portable hotspot and now my data is unlimited. The only annoying aspect is when I need to use my phone I have to switch the sim card back into my phone.. No throttle on the hotspot. When I put the SIM back in my phone the data is throttled (if I'm over) . But I can still switch it back and forth, kind of a pain but I can just connect my phone to the hotspot. NO MORE THROTTLE ON DATA.
I have to add, I tried putting my girlfriends regular straight talk sim card in it and it didn't work. My conclusion, it needs to be a BYOP sim card. The phone I have (S6 Edge) was originally from at&t.
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