The big ATT 5G scam - General Topics

So it gets out there....
Apparently AT&T (possibly/probably others) are taking advantage of their network upgrades to force phone sales. I'm currently using an LG V30+ which from what I see of it's specifications is fully compatible with 4G LTE and even 5G NSA and I can see that VoLTE is currently configured too. I've been using it on an AT&T MVNO for years without much issue. When I paid my bill this month, bam! No more data! Over 3 hours with technical support and multiple agents to get my data working again and when asked what the issue was I was told "It's nothing sir just a little update." Last week my MMS suddenly stopped working and nobody has been able to fix it it, the best (only) answer I've received is that my "sim card is too old, it's from 2014, you need a new sim card." Mind you I've had service through this MVNO since 2014 but have since changed the sim card. So obviously I'm tired of this mess right? So I'm switching MVNOs right? Wrong! I go to port my number to another MVNO (Straight Talk) and my "IMEI shows that my phone is not compatible with the new AT&T network". Comment and share.
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I'm also interested in hearing of any comparable phones that are rootable and have TWRP available that show they are compatible this year on an AT&T MVNO. I checked a T-Mobile MVNO and it showed compatible with Mint.
Edit: Look what I found:
These phones will still work on our network after we phase out ... - ATT
https://www.att.com/idpassets/images/support/wireless/Devices-Working-on-ATT-Network.pdf
Confirmed? See the only LG V30 listed is the AT&T version.

been getting this on Verizon both with my LG G6 and even my V50 (which also has 5g but they claim it doesn't)

b1n4ry said:
been getting this on Verizon both with my LG G6 and even my V50 (which also has 5g but they claim it doesn't)
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Verizon uses a different method and they are all CDMA, so I think first they deny anything that can use a sim, I did some research on this once and came across the information...
Basically only two types of phones are compatible with the Verizon Network...
1. iphones
2. Androids that were made for the Verizon Network.
So if it's not an iphone or a Verizon phone it is not compatible for their network because they say so. But you're not missing anything as they seem to have the worst coverage of the big 3.
1. AT&T
2. T-Mobile
3. Verizon
According to their own coverage maps.
But now AT&T is starting to play the same game? My LG V30+ is a US998. Maybe they allow the AT&T versions?
Edit: Typo and additional info as follows...
Allegedly Apple pays for this privilege if you want to call it that.

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[Q] can the droid ultra be flashed to cricket?

Title is the question.. I can not find anything about this on the internet.
I would have to say "no" on that one since it's tied to Verizon's CDMA network and they use a different set of frequencies than Cricket does which is tied to Sprint's network. The Ultra/MAXX/Mini are already factory unlocked for GSM purposes, however, so that does offer a lot more choice in terms of carriers overall, but still no chance of use with Cricket.
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I would have to say "no" on that one since it's tied to Verizon's CDMA network and they use a different set of frequencies than Cricket does which is tied to Sprint's network. The Ultra/MAXX/Mini are already factory unlocked for GSM purposes, however, so that does offer a lot more choice in terms of carriers overall, but still no chance of use with Cricket.
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So then i can use this phone for the No Annual Service Contracts, for sprint? It is a verizon phone but it could be unlocked for sprint.
nice well thanks buddy
Sprint uses frequencies that aren't compatible with the Ultra/MAXX/Mini so now, you won't be able to use any of those devices with Sprint - that's what I just said. If you can't use it with Sprint, you can't use it with Cricket, Boost, etc. They're not compatible devices, and flashing wouldn't change that.
br0adband said:
Sprint uses frequencies that aren't compatible with the Ultra/MAXX/Mini so now, you won't be able to use any of those devices with Sprint - that's what I just said. If you can't use it with Sprint, you can't use it with Cricket, Boost, etc. They're not compatible devices, and flashing wouldn't change that.
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Thanks for your reply
So Will the Ultra work on T-Mobile then? or does it only work on Verizon. The IMEI is clean, and I just want to know what i have to do to use on any other network but Verizon.. I hate Verizon..
It's as simple as what I just explained: there are two primary cellular technologies, CDMA and GSM. CDMA traditionally has never required SIM cards in their devices and is used by companies like Sprint, Verizon, Boost, Cricket (in the US) and many other cellular carriers worldwide. GSM has always required SIM cards and that's used by AT&T, T-Mobile, Straight Talk, Simple Mobile, and many other carriers in the US as well as around the world.
The Droid Ultra, the Droid MAXX, and the Droid Mini are all Verizon contracted devices but because Verizon must now provide unlocked GSM capability in the phones they sell (at least for the Droid series, that much I know for sure, but other devices like Galaxy S-series, iPhones, I cannot be 100% certain about) that means when you get a Verizon branded device you should be able to - and you can with the Ultra/MAXX/Mini - put a GSM-based SIM card in the phone and use it with any GSM-based cellular carrier anywhere in the world without having to pay anyone to "unlock" the phone for such use.
tl;dr version: Yes, you can use the Ultra with T-Mobile, you just need a T-Mobile SIM card with active service on it and you're good to go. I used my recent Droid MAXX and the Droid Mini I had with T-Mobile without any issues.
But I got sick of waiting around for a miracle that probably won't happen so I sold both of them, got a Samsung Galaxy Express last night, 20 minutes after I got home I had unlocked it for T-Mobile (using the well known unlock trick), rooted it, installed CM11 Official on it and it's been working fantastic today and pulling down close to 35Mbps with T-Mobile's LTE here in Las Vegas.
I'm a happy camper at the moment...
br0adband said:
It's as simple as what I just explained: there are two primary cellular technologies, CDMA and GSM. CDMA traditionally has never required SIM cards in their devices and is used by companies like Sprint, Verizon, Boost, Cricket (in the US) and many other cellular carriers worldwide. GSM has always required SIM cards and that's used by AT&T, T-Mobile, Straight Talk, Simple Mobile, and many other carriers in the US as well as around the world.
The Droid Ultra, the Droid MAXX, and the Droid Mini are all Verizon contracted devices but because Verizon must now provide unlocked GSM capability in the phones they sell (at least for the Droid series, that much I know for sure, but other devices like Galaxy S-series, iPhones, I cannot be 100% certain about) that means when you get a Verizon branded device you should be able to - and you can with the Ultra/MAXX/Mini - put a GSM-based SIM card in the phone and use it with any GSM-based cellular carrier anywhere in the world without having to pay anyone to "unlock" the phone for such use.
tl;dr version: Yes, you can use the Ultra with T-Mobile, you just need a T-Mobile SIM card with active service on it and you're good to go. I used my recent Droid MAXX and the Droid Mini I had with T-Mobile without any issues.
But I got sick of waiting around for a miracle that probably won't happen so I sold both of them, got a Samsung Galaxy Express last night, 20 minutes after I got home I had unlocked it for T-Mobile (using the well known unlock trick), rooted it, installed CM11 Official on it and it's been working fantastic today and pulling down close to 35Mbps with T-Mobile's LTE here in Las Vegas.
I'm a happy camper at the moment...
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My man!
thank you bro. I got my service in tmobile like 30 minutes ago. The phone works and i am a happy camper
but the only issue is texting.. it keeps failing every text
thanks a bunch
nickshavo11 said:
My man!
thank you bro. I got my service in tmobile like 30 minutes ago. The phone works and i am a happy camper
but the only issue is texting.. it keeps failing every text
thanks a bunch
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I don't use T-Mobile myself, and never have, but this thread may be helpful: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2591954

[Q] Trying to use Verizon Droid Ultra on T-mobile

Could someone please please pm me and help the imei is bad on verizon but i desperately want to use this phone its on 4.2.2
If the ESN/IMEI is blacklisted or marked as "bad" or stolen by Verizon, there's not much you can do about it. You can put a T-Mobile SIM card in the Droid Ultra and see what happens but more than likely it's not going to work - I'm not 100% certain that the "blacklist" that Verizon maintains is connected with the one that T-Mobile (and other carriers) are now utilizing to track/keep stolen or reportedly lost devices, as well as those where customers just don't pay their bills so the device gets on a list too.
If you put a T-Mobile SIM in the device and it doesn't connect to their network immediately (because T-Mobile SIM cards allow that, you can access the T-Mobile website but nothing else using their 4G HSPA+ or LTE networks) then more than likely you're completely out of luck in most all respects.
All you could do at that point is contact Verizon in some manner and ask if the device was reported lost or stolen or something else. There's a good chance they may not help you at all if you're not a customer, and if you go into a Verizon store directly to check it they may just confiscate the phone completely.
How do you know for sure it's a bad ESN on Verizon? Have you checked it against something like Swappa's online checker (not 100% accurate but at least it's something):
http://swappa.com/esn
Can't hurt to at least give it a once over and see what results you get.
Verizon bad imei no longer works on tmobile tmobile
About a month ago I bought Verizon lg g2 from eBay. It turned out the device had bad imei. It wouldn't connect to tmobile network. I returned the phone back to the seller. Verizon bad imei phones no longer works on tmobile.

T Mobile N5 used on Sprint network?

Going to buy my friends T Mobile N5 and would like to use it on Sprint network.
Ive researched this a little and I have seen people run into trouble, saying that Sprint wont activated it because it wasn't purchased from google or sprint.
All Nexus's from North America are the same from what I understand and should be able to be used on any carrier.
Anyone have any suggestions on whether this can be done?
Thanks
Yes, all you need is a Sprint sim card
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More accurately, if your current LTE phone has a nano SIM, then you can simply pop it out, put it in your friend's Nexus 5 and it should work. The problem comes if you need a new SIM, or if your current SIM doesn't have LTE service assigned to it. In either of those cases, you'll need to contact Sprint either for a new SIM, or to activate LTE service. At that time, they may fight you, stating that the phone isn't supported. However, if you don't back down, ask for a supervisor, or try another store, eventually you will get a reasonable person.
Worst case, call the customer service line, and say that you got a Nexus 5 from Google, and need them to send you a new SIM card. They don't have to know you didn't actually buy it from Google. Again, it may take talking to a supervisor or even multiple calls, but eventually, you'll succeed.
iammrhappy123 said:
Going to buy my friends T Mobile N5 and would like to use it on Sprint network.
Ive researched this a little and I have seen people run into trouble, saying that Sprint wont activated it because it wasn't purchased from google or sprint.
All Nexus's from North America are the same from what I understand and should be able to be used on any carrier.
Anyone have any suggestions on whether this can be done?
Thanks
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1) the NA nexus 5 cannot be used on any carrier. it cannot be used on verizon. the other 3 major carriers are fine (tmobile, sprint, and att)
2) sprint has to add the IMEI to their databases to allow the CDMA portion to connect to their network. This is how the auth the phone to make phone calls, etc. They have added the IMEI from google play devices, and obviously the ones they sell. They do not have a list of the IMEIs tmobile sells.
jt3 said:
More accurately, if your current LTE phone has a nano SIM, then you can simply pop it out, put it in your friend's Nexus 5 and it should work.
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The Nexus 5 needs a Micro SIM. If you use a nano SIM, you will need an adapter
Zepius said:
2) sprint has to add the IMEI to their databases to allow the CDMA portion to connect to their network. This is how the auth the phone to make phone calls, etc. They have added the IMEI from google play devices, and obviously the ones they sell. They do not have a list of the IMEIs tmobile sells.
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That was the case till recently. Last week, I saw a Sprint store employee call customer care for a potential customer and supposedly get the IMEI added into the Sprint database for a N5 bought from T-mo. The customer had to provide invoice etc to show that he owned the device, but I think they were able to get it sorted out.
YMMV of course.
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The Nexus 5 needs a Micro SIM. If you use a nano SIM, you will need an adapter
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Duh. I knew that. I don't know why I said Nano. I came from a Galaxy S4 Active, and remember being happy that it still had a Micro SIM, the same as the N5. Thanks for the correction.
As for the IMEI issue, I guess when the OP said T-Mo Nexus 5, I thought Play Store N5 used on T-Mo. I didn't realize T-Mo was selling them directly, and thought only Sprint was doing that. (Play Store IMEIs are in Sprint's system.) My mistake. Still, I know that they can add IMEIs to their network, but it usually requires quite a battle. This is one of the key reasons I'm not on Sprint.
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Duh. I knew that. I don't know why I said Nano. I came from a Galaxy S4 Active, and remember being happy that it still had a Micro SIM, the same as the N5. Thanks for the correction.
As for the IMEI issue, I guess when the OP said T-Mo Nexus 5, I thought Play Store N5 used on T-Mo. I didn't realize T-Mo was selling them directly, and thought only Sprint was doing that. (Play Store IMEIs are in Sprint's system.) My mistake. Still, I know that they can add IMEIs to their network, but it usually requires quite a battle. This is one of the key reasons I'm not on Sprint.
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I hear ya, and totally agree - it is a pain to get them to do something that is not their normal process! I'm still with them, just because they have better coverage outside of cities than T-Mo. But I'm getting tired of their terrible data speeds, and eCFSB issues - ugh
Hey All!
Thanks for the replies! You all are very helpful. I wasn't expecting any replies haha.
I'm currently on Sprint iPhone 5 which uses a Micro Sim.
First time ever going to android, so I"m excited.
I just hope that when I call Sprint to activate the N5, they wont give me crap. And hopefully they add my IMEI to their network.
Or hopefully, when I just switch the SIM, it'll work off the bat lol.
Ill just keep being persistent at getting them to activate it if not.

S7 AT&T or TMobile Model

Hey guys im going to be pre-ordering tomorrow and want to know your thoughts on which carrier variant to go with. I have AT&T where I live but I have heard that tmobiles phone are usually easier to get bootloader unlocked, or they come pre unlock. Which one do you think is a better choice?
I'm sure the tmobile one will have all. The band's requires for att.. Or at least the main ones. If you're looking at modding, go the tmobile route. But Idk how easy it will be to get the tmobile one and have them unlock it for you. I went through hell with my s6 edge and getting them to unlock it
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I am debating the same thing. Last time I got a TMOB, and paid for a 3rd party unlock which took a week. Then canceled the TMOB service before the 30 days were up.
TMOB won't unlock phones until they are on plan after two payment cycles and the phone is fully paid off.
Now TMOB unlocks via app and I understand there is a 3rd party vendor that might be able to get them unlocked, but might be troublesome. I asked my sister who is a TMOB customer if she could just outright buy the phone for me but she said under her plan they require her to surrender her old phone so I have to put it on their stupid plan.
Not sure if you can get the phone via MetroPCS as a pre-paid plan and avoid this nonsense but it seems their phone choices are severely limited.
Definitely looking for a better way to get an unlocked bootloader.
I'm in the same boat. Have an AT&T S4 and finally looking to upgrade but after the hell AT&T gave with the S4 locked bootloader I think T-mobile is the way to go. Just hope unlocking it for AT&T will be a straight forward process.
The guy that unlocked an S6 for me emailed me back that he was not sure yet if he could unlock a TMOB S7.
I believe AT&T has more bands than T-Mobile.
Will get the AT&T model as will use with prepaid carriers and AT&T supports most T-Mobile bands. T-Mobile does not support all AT&T bands.
Nextstep said:
I believe AT&T has more bands than T-Mobile.
Will get the AT&T model as will use with prepaid carriers and AT&T supports most T-Mobile bands. T-Mobile does not support all AT&T bands.
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The only bands that are missing from the 930T (t-mobile version) versus the 930A (AT&T) are bands 29 and 30 which don't appear to be used in the US at all. I found the bands on the product pages on both sites. You are better off getting the t-mobile one and hope for an unlocked bootloader. AT&T will be locked down for sure.
zcubed said:
The only bands that are missing from the 930T (t-mobile version) versus the 930A (AT&T) are bands 29 and 30 which don't appear to be used in the US at all. I found the bands on the product pages on both sites. You are better off getting the t-mobile one and hope for an unlocked bootloader. AT&T will be locked down for sure.
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That's great news, thanks for checking.
What I'm currently debating is preordering the AT&T S7 from Best Buy to get in on the VR and MicroSD, then just selling once an unlocked T-Mobile variant becomes available No other way to preorder a 930T without an account right?
The TMOB preorder is up. You need to subscribe to a plan to order it. It does not let you pre-order it on a post paid or prepaid plan.
I am really hesitant to preorder it since TMOB sucks and won't unlock until after 2 billing cycles. And you have to unlock it using their app verses typing in a code provided by a 3rd party unlocker after you turn the phone on when a non-TMOB sim is inserted.
Guess I'll have to wait until some unlocked ones appear on Swappa or Fleabay. Hate doing that as I was just burned with a phone that that eventually popped up with a blacklisted IMEI.
Like Flame Red said, there's no way to get the T-Mobile one without signing up for a plan but you also get a year of Netflix with the t-mobile one that's worth WAY more than the microSD from Best Buy. You can cancel the plan immediately though and hope for a third party unlocking service to unlock the phone for a fee.
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Bands detail links:
https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/android/samsung_galaxy_s_7#id_1299991
https://www.att.com/cellphones/samsung/galaxy-s7.html#sku=sku7840239 (Click Details)
Is there a place to order the 930F Global version? Will that have all the bands required for ATT & TMO?
Are there any Galaxy S7 that will support CDMA and GSM.
I looking to go prepaid route and Sprint prepaid MVNO and T-Mobile prepaid MVNO with maybe some AT&T prepaid.
Any assistance greatly appreciated.
According to this thread, the underlying hardware is the same for all S7 variants and the bands are turned on/off via the radio files. http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/how-to/finally-single-hardware-variant-carriers-t3308040
Should be interesting if I decide to get a t-mobile S7 and possibly being able to "turn on" the extra bands at a later date.
Looks like it doesn't matter which one you get anymore: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Cert...the-carrier-of-the-first-SIM-inserted_id78809
The S7 should "lock" to the first carrier's sim you insert. Would love confirmation of this if someone gets the T-Mobile one and puts in an AT&T sim.
Will see, hoping some users will get the phone soon, and confirm before I purchase.
clove.co.uk is now showing pre-orders for the unlocked international s7 (and edge). Interestingly enough, they're showing it having the SD820 whereas I thought EU was getting the Exynos!?
zcubed said:
Looks like it doesn't matter which one you get anymore: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Cert...the-carrier-of-the-first-SIM-inserted_id78809
The S7 should "lock" to the first carrier's sim you insert. Would love confirmation of this if someone gets the T-Mobile one and puts in an AT&T sim.
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So technically speaking, no matter what version ill get it will be locked to att after I put in that sim card?
I wonder if that means the bootloaders will be the same on all the models, since they are all the same except for the radio differences?
Neither for me. International versions only
As far as unlocking goes, I've been in that scene for about 6 months. If it's an app unlock, no biggie, it'll just cost about $30 more than without the app unlock. You should expect to pay about $20-50 for the unlock once the phone comes out. No sweat!
The big difference between att and tmobile is not the sim lock, but the fact that att phones come with locked bootloaders thereby severely limiting their attractiveness to the mod community.

Will this G5 (H830) work on the AT&T LTE bands?

I want to purchase a G5 and am wondering if will be more prudent to get an international unlocked one for AT&T or get the tmobile version and unlock it. The GSMarena website shows that both phones (the H830 and H820) carry different bands (no 29 and 30 for the tmobile version). Although straight from the LG website both the 820 and 830 show the EXACT same band supports. Thanks!
aermis said:
I want to purchase a G5 and am wondering if will be more prudent to get an international unlocked one for AT&T or get the tmobile version and unlock it. The GSMarena website shows that both phones (the H830 and H820) carry different bands (no 29 and 30 for the tmobile version). Although straight from the LG website both the 820 and 830 show the EXACT same band supports. Thanks!
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Don't know yet but I am having a hard time getting my g5 to sim unlock today. T-mobile said it should unlock through the app but it has not worked for me yet even though I met all of there requirements. They said they are escalating the issue. I think maybe they are having technical difficulties with the unlock server. But surely they will figure it out. I will try to report back.
I'm wondering this too. It looks like it should specs wise.
Clear the data on the unlock app and try again, had an issue with a Xperia z3 recently where the app wouldn't allow me to unlock despite being paid off and on the network for over a year, rep said to clear the app data and try again, worked like a charm after trying for three weeks and speaking to 5 different reps who all had varying solutions, one even said she needed to submit a request and id be emailed once approved, last guy was like nope, once it meets requirements its an automatic procedure server side. So I did as he asked and boom!
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Don't know yet but I am having a hard time getting my g5 to sim unlock today. T-mobile said it should unlock through the app but it has not worked for me yet even though I met all of there requirements. They said they are escalating the issue. I think maybe they are having technical difficulties with the unlock server. But surely they will figure it out. I will try to report back.
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I've been escalated more than 8 times already.
No unlock yet.
In 10 days I will be already 40 days in the network.
Lets hope this helps.
Finnally got my phone sim unlocked Saturday
I got 4g hspa+ but can't seem to get lte working. But calls and text seems fine. Anyone know how to get AT&T LTE working on the tmoblie g5?
How did you unlock your phone. That seems to be the big deal...
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How did you unlock your phone. That seems to be the big deal...
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I unlocked it though the app seems there was an issue with the unlock server at t-mobile as the unlocked app failed many times. I called tech support many times but finally i got an email with instructions how to unlock it later with the app and i tried it again and it worked. It said "unlock failed: Unlock Approved: Mobile device is permanently unlocked."
I think the unlock failed was a typing error. but it is now indeed unlocked. tech support had to do something to allow it to be unlocked. I would say keep calling support until it works. now I think I must use my old att phone imei# in order to get LTE working? It seems if your phone imei# is not in a whitelist they wont let u access lte network? If anyone knows how to get Lte working let me know pls?
AT&T 4G LTE is working for me
AT&T LTE is finally working for me. Note to anyone looking to use this phone on AT&T LTE the sim you use must first be activated in AT&T phone first , to enable 4G LTE if it is a new sim. Or if you already got a sim in a phone and LTE is working it should work in the phone if you have correct APN settings.
It seems the sim has to be provisioned in a AT&T brand phone with its imei # which i believe is white-listed for LTE on a AT&T server.
Yes my device is now sim unlocked and I am using it on AT&T now.
I am using my T-Mobile G5 on cricket an AT&T mvno. I switched because they have a totally unlimited plan for $70/Mo only catch is they throttle your speeds to 8 megs down on LTE and 4 megs down on 4G. I bought my phone outright from T-Mobile used it for 2 months on T-Mobile prepaid on the $50 plan and T-Mobile unlocked it for me through the app. I had no problem at all getting LTE from cricket once I put in the correct APN settings. LTE showed up within 30 min after number was ported from T-Mobile.

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