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And by debloated I mean Google too. I prefer zero crap on the phone but baked in"features"aren't bloat hahhaahaha. I've gotta run microg that's what I bought it for lol. Prefer toot so I can do what I want.
Well since no one knows, has tried all three, or is afraid to offend sunshine, I'll chime in myself.
The Omnirom build is very good and let's me do everything I need but not everything I want. I've read that it's better than using a GSI (generic system image - I think). Omni has been very stable to be as old as it is. I was able to remove the gapps and install microg.
Microg won't install in twrp, and won't work in magisk unless you make 100% sure Google play services are gone.
An easy way to check if things are on the right track with microg is to look in settings under system, if it shows up at the near the bottom it's going to work.
I was unable to get microg working with stock but I think I could now.
With big red ( Verizon) wifi calling is available on stock but not in omni. This is expected as I've never had to work on anything other than a stock rom in the past. So if you're at the edge of signal coverage or like I am at the edge and about the same distance between 2 towers in two states with different service in both lol, you might want to keep stock if you need that feature. If not I'd say Omni all the way.
Perhaps I'll add to this as time goes on.
If you are just starting out tahr note that fastbootd isn't the bootloader, and use the latest adb and fastboot from Google, even on Linux I downloaded the most recent to be sure but that's up to you.
The Lenovo Recover works great but fastbootd works well for fixing small blunders too.
Fastbootd says Fastboot in huge letters at the top you can't miss it. Hahaha
One thing I find peculiar is that I was able to use the Fastboot command in the bootloader mode to install twrp. This gave me a false sense of hope.
And I falsely assumed I was in Fastbootd. Fastboot has been around for years I just never used it. I think it was around in the Droidx days but I could be mistaken.
Good luck!
We are very fortunate to have vache and other devs working on these devices. As well as users who can test and stuff.
Another user asked this previously without any response ... Could you post a degoogled Omni ROM without gapps? Or give any advice how to remove it ? You were the one to put it all together so surely for you it must be easy removing it? As for me, I've been stuck.
Sorry i never saw this until now but I'm not a developer just a microg and self-hosted nextcloud user.
As the title says, here's a list of some GSI's i have tested so far... but first for some story.
Bought the phone in summer, it's quite nice but has its own issues like no kernel source BUT since we can unlock the device and actually play around, oh boy it has been fun.
On the course of few hours and many downloads later I have a small list of GSI's that worked!
Every GSI I have mentioned REQUIRE device specific patch(es)!!!
For that you have to root.
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BlissROM - It boots and functions quite fast
Cons: no included Gapps
Flashing any system editing patch results in "Phone is booting" homescreen.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/treblerom/files/BLESS/2020.09.21/
3.5 jack, VoLTE, Bluetooth, ComboFix patches are required, flash with Magisk manager
DO NOT USE FixLagSmooth
HavocOS 3.7 and 3.6 - Work and can be daily driven
3.6 requires FixLagSmooth patch
MUST root and apply all linked patches (don't use FixLagSmooth on 3.7, you can but no need)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi...rom-how-to-install-android-10-gsi-mi-t4126223
AOSP Android 10 based - Also does work and requires patching
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi...rom-how-to-install-android-10-gsi-mi-t4126223
HydrogenOS Android 10 - Works
Has few bugs
No Google services
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/gsi/HydrogenOS/
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Android 11 GSI - Reported to be functional by HumptyPotato47, thanks mate!
No Gapps as of now NikGapps exist for Android 11, search XDA for it!
Requires more testing...
https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/releases/tag/v300.f
----------------------MAYBE WORKING GSI's-------------------------
OxygenOS 10 GSI - Seems to work.. sorta
First boot after exiting fastboot causes the phone to reboot
Second boot will loop
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/gsi/OxygenOS/
----------------------NON FUNCTIONAL GSI's-------------------------
You tell me
...I did find a very nice list of GSI ROMs to try out more, here's the link:
https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/wiki/Generic-System-Image-(GSI)-list
----------------------FLASHING GSI-------------------------
If you test one then don't hesitate with replying which one, about the experience, bugs and how you installed it.
My method of installing was this:
1. Make sure to have the new adb commandline that supports fastbootd mode
2. Drop the GSI .img file in /adb directory for ease
3. Make sure you're running MIUI with unlocked bootloader and USB debugging enabled
3.5 MAKE SURE you get a GSI ROM with Gapps as existing TWRP isn't fully functional
4. GSI you should have must be AB partition!!!
Once all set then follow the next commands
>adb reboot bootloader
>fastboot -w
>fastboot reboot fastboot
>fastboot erase system
>fastboot flash system "GSI-ROM-name-without-quotes".img
>fastboot reboot bootloader
>fastboot reboot
----------------------SETTING UP GSI-------------------------
Once all that is complete it should boot, if not then that specific GSI does not work.
Also a thing worth mentioning! Whenever I boot this phone to fastbootd Windows keeps forgetting what driver it was which requires
few extra clicks in device manager to set it up for fastbootd use. Including an image with simple to follow instructions if you have the same issue.
>fastboot boot twrp.img
Once in TWRP you should be able to access internal storage with your computer, drag Magisk.zip over and flash. Don't forget to wipe cache!
If it boots normally then root was successful, now apply the linked patch and reboot once again. Since we are playing with GSI:
Head to Settings
Find Phh Treble Settings
Misc features
Check Disable audio effect. -- DISABLE IT AFTER PATCHING!!!
IMPORTANT!!! I only tested Havoc and Bliss for a long period, IF one of my mentioned GSI's or others require more patches then I have linked headphone jack and Bluetooth audio patches too.
Combo fix should do the trick thought so your mileage may vary.
----------------------HELP US-------------------------
IF you find more working GSI's then tell us and I will make sure to add them to the main post so it won't get clogged under other comments!
Update on 05.10.2020 GMT+3
Bliss ROM GSI
As only a day or two have passed I already encountered few issues.
> You cannot remove screenshot sounds, even when fully muted
> Data drain is something interesting I've noticed, consumption compared to MIUI is higher.
> When using the gesture navigation it is a bit buggy when using quick side swipe for multitasking.
Positive notes!
> It is stupid fast
> Battery life is good
> GCam is amazing
> 99% of the customization options work perfectly
> Fast charging modes and such work perfectly
Neutral stuff...
> No FOD, thanks for closed source
> whenever you take a picture or a screenshot and have Blutetooth audio connected, it pauses and plays out loud via speaker. No music leaks out
this phone is born dead, no developer cares about it.
alsartawi said:
this phone is born dead, no developer cares about it.
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Sad truth but won't stop others from working on it. Eventually we might get a kernel source
Kevin Soosaar said:
Sad truth but won't stop others from working on it. Eventually we might get a kernel source
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i would pay to see a stable custom rom for this phone, i really loved it.
alsartawi said:
i would pay to see a stable custom rom for this phone, I really loved it.
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Havoc OS and Bliss ROM are both quite stable, albeit with Bliss you don't get Gapps which is a huge bummer to most users.
Personally I just installed MicroG services and use Aurora store with anonymous "account".
When I tried to flash Gapps with TWRP I ended up soft bricking ROM so it was required to restore stock and try again. Of course there's no need if you can still use fastbootd.
Kevin Soosaar said:
Havoc OS and Bliss ROM are both quite stable, albeit with Bliss you don't get Gapps which is a huge bummer to most users.
Personally I just installed MicroG services and use Aurora store with anonymous "account".
When I tried to flash Gapps with TWRP I ended up soft bricking ROM so it was required to restore stock and try again. Of course there's no need if you can still use fastbootd.
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does FOD works on Havoc OS?
edit: sorry i just read that it's not working.
alsartawi said:
does FOD works on Havoc OS?
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FOD is not working as the driver sources are not public, reverse engineering is not possible too afaik. Everything else works.
Should i send this phone back to Amazon?
Seriously, last night i bought it, thinking about to install some custom rom, but if there are no developers caring of it, i might returb the phone to the seller...
IMO MIUI EU is better then GSI roms. Everything works. Got rid of most chinese crap. You can use Magisk.
Have nice features (MIUI in general). The only thing i dont like -mine turns on WIFI byitself dotn know how it happens... but it happens when i sleep. china collecting logs?
https://www.scmp.com/abacus/tech/ar...earch-and-browsing-data-china-researcher-says
afigienas said:
IMO MIUI EU is better then GSI roms. Everything works. Got rid of most chinese crap. You can use Magisk.
Have nice features (MIUI in general). The only thing i dont like -mine turns on WIFI byitself dotn know how it happens... but it happens when i sleep. china collecting logs?
https://www.scmp.com/abacus/tech/ar...earch-and-browsing-data-china-researcher-says
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Literally the main reason I made this post is to help others who are interested to use GSI ROM's on their devices. I do agree that MIUI has some decent features and I did use Xiaomu.eu before but it was so buggy. In the end I love customizing the device however I like it so MIUI is just not for me. Either way I might try to negotiate with Amazon to get a refund as touch and Bluetooth problems still persist. Fun fact, on Bliss the edge detection is pretty good and not as aggressive or straight out bad.
Simon_19 said:
Seriously, last night i bought it, thinking about to install some custom rom, but if there are no developers caring of it, i might returb the phone to the seller...
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Actually there are plenty of people ready to build ROMs for Toco (Mi Note 10 Lite) and Tucana (Mi Note 10) but there just isn't any kernel source available. Making things worse is the cancelled release of Toco in India and we know that they are one of the biggest Android ROM builders next to Russians. No one there is gonna import a device like this because better phones for money exist. If you don't like it then yeah I recommend returning otherwise give GSI a try for now and see what happens.
You won't lose warranty as there is no E-fuse like on Samsung phones so locking bootloader and flashing back to stock is enough.
Is anyone try oos gsi ?
HumptyPotato47 said:
Android 11 GSI of phh is working fine. It is very smooth. But i switched back to miui because i can't find any android 11 gapps.
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can you give the link of the rom?
HumptyPotato47 said:
Android 11 GSI of phh is working fine. It is very smooth. But i switched back to miui because i can't find any android 11 gapps.
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Hi, there are gapps for Android 11, look for NikGapps here in XDA
Kevin Soosaar said:
Actually there are plenty of people ready to build ROMs for Toco (Mi Note 10 Lite) and Tucana (Mi Note 10) but there just isn't any kernel source available. Making things worse is the cancelled release of Toco in India and we know that they are one of the biggest Android ROM builders next to Russians. No one there is gonna import a device like this because better phones for money exist. If you don't like it then yeah I recommend returning otherwise give GSI a try for now and see what happens.
You won't lose warranty as there is no E-fuse like on Samsung phones so locking bootloader and flashing back to stock is enough.
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who said its cancelled?
Dr. DoubtReaper said:
who said its cancelled?
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The mentioned Mi Note 10 Lite for India was supposed to be called Mi 10i or something like that. It quickly disappeared and is not happening.
Of course I might be wrong by this date but looking for now there is no 10i, only speculation videos and threads.
Mi Note 10 Lite for India would've been code named "tocoin", same hardware and everything else so just a rebadge in old Xiaomi fashion... :laugh:
anyone tried new version of blissROM? feedback?
GaryFisher88 said:
anyone tried new version of blissROM? feedback?
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Not sure if the one I linked is up do date, give it a try yourself as my device went in for warranty repairs.
Hello, I am currently using Xiaomi.eu based on MIUI 12 and I would like to know how to flash HAVOC OS GSI. Should I flash back to Global Rom then flash the GSI as indicated? Answer is greatly appreciated.
ProtonAOSP
Android 11 ROM
ProtonAOSP is a minimal Android fork (custom ROM) focused on UI/UX and performance, with a touch of privacy.
Usage with my Proton Kernel is recommended to get the most out of your phone. The ROM does not include Proton Kernel, so you will need to flash it yourself. The ROM will still work with other kernels, but you will not get the benefits of Proton Kernel.
Screenshots
Screenshots of the latest version
Installation
This ROM is currently distributed as factory images, similar to stock. Flash it the same way you would flash stock factory images. Don't forget to wipe all data using "fastboot -w" before booting the ROM.
Firmware is included, so there is no specific requirement for which version of the stock ROM you are coming from.
You can also use the quick & easy web installer, which allows you to install and update the ROM from any computer or phone without using the command line. The installer works entirely within your web browser and completes in as little as 4 minutes, depending on the speed of your internet connection. Consider using the web installer instead of installing manually.
More detailed installation instructions and guides
Features
List of current features, with accompanying screenshots and explanations
Downloads
Downloads and changelogs for all versions
Builds with and without minimal Google services (gapps) included are provided for convenience.
Using the quick and easy web installer is recommended unless you have a specific reason to download and install the ROM manually.
Support
If you have questions or concerns, please read the Frequently Asked Questions before asking. It saves time for everyone involved, especially you, and allows us to provide higher-quality answers for all users.
Website with comprehensive documentation
Join the Telegram group for support and extras
Please consider donating to support development if you found this helpful: recurring donation to keep the project alive in the long term or buy me a coffee
Kernel source code
ROM source code
Something else worth noting: SafetyNet is currently passing (without Magisk) using some tricks built into the ROM, unlike stock with an unlocked bootloader.
Ooooo nice
kdrag0n said:
Something else worth noting: SafetyNet is currently passing (without Magisk) using some tricks built into the ROM, unlike stock with an unlocked bootloader.
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This is very interesting
Hey kdragon,
First time Pixel owner having been with OnePlus for the last 3.5 years and HTC prior to that. Only a short learning curve to install a rom through fastboot but up and running and just getting setup. Thanks for your work!
Is gpay working?
Thanks for the first custom rom on p5
PsychOlli said:
Is gpay working?
Thanks for the first custom rom on p5
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I was able to set up my main card on gpay with root and magisk hide (though not using magisk hide props). I've not been out today so haven't tested if it works but given that the card registered okay I would say yes.
A hotfix update has just been released to fix issues with a botched SafetyNet fix that caused most apps using HTTP outside of a browser to break, including Google Translate, SMS/MMS, and many others. I've figured out a new way to fix SafetyNet that doesn't come with those pitfalls, so SafetyNet is still passing out-of-the-box and apps will no longer break.
Re-download v11.2.0 from GitHub for the fixes. I've decided to re-upload it rather than bumping the version because the previous SafetyNet fix was very broken.
Flash
Hello, I've recently got back into android after being a long time iPhone user, How exactly am I able to flash this rom? Sorry in advance, haven't been in the rom scene in a long time
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Hello, I've recently got back into android after being a long time iPhone user, How exactly am I able to flash this rom? Sorry in advance, haven't been in the rom scene in a long time
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As per the OP:
Installation
This ROM is currently distributed as factory images similar to stock due to the lack of TWRP. Flash it as you would flash stock factory images. Don't forget to wipe all data using "fastboot -w" before booting the ROM.
Firmware is included, so there is no specific requirement for which version of the stock ROM you are coming from.
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You'll need to unlock your bootloader first and then follow any guide online to flash Pixel factory images. This ROM currently works exactly the same way with regards to flashing: unzip and run flash-all.sh or flash-all.bat depending on OS.
Does tethering hardware acceleration and VoLTE work?
kdrag0n said:
As per the OP:
You'll need to unlock your bootloader first and then follow any guide online to flash Pixel factory images. This ROM currently works exactly the same way with regards to flashing: unzip and run flash-all.sh or flash-all.bat depending on OS.
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Thank you I finally got it up and running, Just wondering how exactly do install magisk manager to gain root?
Knuxyl said:
Does tethering hardware acceleration and VoLTE work?
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Tethering works, and I can see log messages about successful hardware acceleration setup.
VoLTE should work with all carriers supported on stock — it's Wi-Fi calling that's finnicky, and I converted the carrier configs from stock for use in AOSP — but your mileage may vary. It works for me on a T-Mobile US MVNO, as does Wi-Fi calling.
anon9815 said:
Thank you I finally got it up and running, Just wondering how exactly do install magisk manager to gain root?
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In short:
Install Magisk Manager Canary from GitHub
Extract the boot.img file from the image-...zip file inside the ROM's factory images ZIP
Push it to the phone
Patch it with Magisk Manager
Pull the file to your computer
Reboot to bootloader
fastrboot flash boot magisk_patched.img
Check https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-5/how-to/guide-root-pixel-5-xl-android-11-r-t4187609 for details.
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ProtonAOSP • Pixel 5
Android 11 ROM...
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Thank you very much for the first rom for the p5.
I have 2 questions about this.
At first, exists their some screenshots which shows the ui or the difference to the stock p5 ui ?
The second question is more important for me.
Can I dirty flash the rom on my p5, so I can use the data which is currently installed. Or must I wipe the phone and start from scratch?
Best regards,
Raz0Rfail said:
Thank you very much for the first rom for the p5.
I have 2 questions about this.
At first, exists their some screenshots which shows the ui or the difference to the stock p5 ui ?
The second question is more important for me.
Can I dirty flash the rom on my p5, so I can use the data which is currently installed. Or must I wipe the phone and start from scratch?
Best regards,
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You must wipe if you are coming from another ROM. Future updates to this ROM will not require subsequent wipes.
Screenshots are available on the Telegram channel, here is a public link that doesn't require login: https://t.me/proton_p5_builds/6
Just to clarify if anyone is confused: this is an Android 11 ROM, not Android 10. XDA DevDB has no option for 11 so I had to put 10. I've just edited the DevDB info out of the post now and added 11 to the header so there should be no more confusion.
Does hotspot work without issue? And are you swap the navigation back button and recent button? To how it is with most Samsung phones
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Does hotspot work without issue? And are you swap the navigation back button and recent button? To how it is with most Samsung phones
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Hotspot works for both Wi-Fi (sharing) and cellular data.
The 3-button navigation bar has not been changed from AOSP.
kdrag0n said:
Hotspot works for both Wi-Fi (sharing) and cellular data.
The 3-button navigation bar has not been changed from AOSP.
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Can you hide nav bar? Just curious.
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Hello,
Is there any OnePlus 7 Pro custom ROM with no GApps , and the bootloader can be re-locked after the ROM flashed?
Why re-lock the bootloader?
- I don't give a way phones, in case i lost the phone.
Try LinageOS?
- I did, can't re-lock the bootloader, because they don't load the signing keys into the verified boot as GrapheneOS and CalyxOS do.
If there's a ROM out there, please tell me where, if not, I'm sorry for any inconvenience.
Thank You
Did you find anything since this post? I've been playing with LOS 17.1 and 18.1 on my OP7Pro but can't get Safetynet to pass when I have Magisk on, and have issues trying to put TWRP on with LOS, as LOS hijacks the recovery. I'd like to get my banking apps and some other apps like Lyft to work without having google know my every keystroke and geolocation. I'm close with LOS 18.1, but am missing those 2 apps ability to work. I might try 17.1 again if that's going to make things easier.
From your post it looks like GrapheneOS and CalyxOS might be options. What's wrong with those OS? Will those not work with MicroG?
Lear31pilot said:
Did you find anything since this post? I've been playing with LOS 17.1 and 18.1 on my OP7Pro but can't get Safetynet to pass when I have Magisk on, and have issues trying to put TWRP on with LOS, as LOS hijacks the recovery. I'd like to get my banking apps and some other apps like Lyft to work without having google know my every keystroke and geolocation. I'm close with LOS 18.1, but am missing those 2 apps ability to work. I might try 17.1 again if that's going to make things easier.
From your post it looks like GrapheneOS and CalyxOS might be options. What's wrong with those OS? Will those not work with MicroG?
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Hello,
First, Now I'm sure 100% that OnePlus 7 Pro is supporting verified boot and bootloader relock, but to achieve that, you have to load the signing public key used to sign the ROM during its build and it should be user build not debug mode build (ex. for debug mode build is the offecial LineageOS) to the phone verified boot partition.
I found this divestos [dot] org, but still not tested nor working on Oneplus 7 Pro. I tried but my phone never load the OS.
Now, I'm trying to go through the build steps from official LineageOS website to do my own build and do it user build, sure using my own signing keys, I hope it will work.
For GraphenOS and CalyxOS, unfortunately they work only with Google Pixel phones, ironic, isn't?, Lyft might work with you if you decided to go that way, because i tried Uber and it worked just fine with MicroG, but my banking app did not work, not because of microG or the OS, but because the app itself design to detect google play store and if you login or not, and if the app downloaded from the play store itself or not.
I hope my answer gave you some help.
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Hello,
First, Now I'm sure 100% that OnePlus 7 Pro is supporting verified boot and bootloader relock, but to achieve that, you have to load the signing public key used to sign the ROM during its build and it should be user build not debug mode build (ex. for debug mode build is the offecial LineageOS) to the phone verified boot partition.
I found this divestos [dot] org, but still not tested nor working on Oneplus 7 Pro. I tried but my phone never load the OS.
Now, I'm trying to go through the build steps from official LineageOS website to do my own build and do it user build, sure using my own signing keys, I hope it will work.
For GraphenOS and CalyxOS, unfortunately they work only with Google Pixel phones, ironic, isn't?, Lyft might work with you if you decided to go that way, because i tried Uber and it worked just fine with MicroG, but my banking app did not work, not because of microG or the OS, but because the app itself design to detect google play store and if you login or not, and if the app downloaded from the play store itself or not.
I hope my answer gave you some help.
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I actually took a senior member's' advice to just use Hydrogen (the Chinese (de-googled) version of Andriod) on my OP7Pro. So far it's working well and I just have to get things set up, but I'm rooted and Magisk works using the boot.img patch and hiding the app in settings. No need for Microg as it is a signed OS (or something like that). At the end of the day, I just needed something that worked right and didn't have big G tracking my moves. Some small tweaks and I'll at least have Hydrogen 10 working right. I might play with HOS11 after I get the backup functionality working correctly. I'm tired of downloading a ton of apps and getting all of my logins done and email accounts set up, only to make a tweak on the system and have to start over again.
Hope the custom LOS you're working on works for you. Thanks for getting back. This is a learning process for me. Take care.
Lear31pilot said:
I actually took a senior member's' advice to just use Hydrogen (the Chinese (de-googled) version of Andriod) on my OP7Pro. So far it's working well and I just have to get things set up, but I'm rooted and Magisk works using the boot.img patch and hiding the app in settings. No need for Microg as it is a signed OS (or something like that). At the end of the day, I just needed something that worked right and didn't have big G tracking my moves. Some small tweaks and I'll at least have Hydrogen 10 working right. I might play with HOS11 after I get the backup functionality working correctly. I'm tired of downloading a ton of apps and getting all of my logins done and email accounts set up, only to make a tweak on the system and have to start over again.
Hope the custom LOS you're working on works for you. Thanks for getting back. This is a learning process for me. Take care.
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The same here, I hate this tracking and the feel that there is someone always looking over my shoulder .
Could you please tell me, where did you get HydrogenOS, I might give it a try.
Thank You, have a blessed life.
Best bet would be to run a debloat script. Universal Debloater (found here or on gitlab I believe) has the options for Google and OnePlus. Since you can use USB Debugging without unlocking bootloader, this might be the best option for you.
They will show the apps that are getting removed and a little description if you open up the list files in a text editor (notepad or whatever).
ahmed.elsersi said:
The same here, I hate this tracking and the feel that there is someone always looking over my shoulder .
Could you please tell me, where did you get HydrogenOS, I might give it a try.
Thank You, have a blessed life.
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I just did an internet search (duckduckgo) and found a website with the complete zip file. Not sure if this is the one, but they offer the download for 10. (Mods can remove this link if I'm not allowed to share links with downloads) In any case, you can dig and find something if you chose to go this route. There are probably more HOS 11 downloads as of late since it's newer. I just wasn't able to get the Magisk app to work right on the 11 verison. That may have changed with the most recent update of Magisk. A de-bloat tool may work on OOS too. I just haven't tried it on OOS yet.
download HydrogenOS 10.0.10 Archives - RM Update News
Tech News
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First of all. I have a Poco X3 Pro with 8GB RAM and 256GB Storage. MIUI is v12.5.2.0 (RJUEUXM). Model says M2102J20SG. I Have bought my phone 8 months ago and yesterday I decided to unlock it, mistakenly thinking that would let me disable the Xiaomi apps I do not like.
TL; DR:
1) Can I root my phone with stock rom?
2) Can I disable Xiaomi apps on stock rom if I root it?
3) Any suggestions for me with priority on stability over performance?
I have not been involved in rooting a phone in many years. The last android phone I had and rooted was a ZTE Blade and I mean the first Blade, which was like over a decade ago. After that I did a mistake to go on iPhone and then on an LG G6, that never made me feel like I needed to root it honestly.
The main reason I want to root my phone is to debloat it safely, removing/freezing/disabling quite a lot of Xiaomi's extra software, that I just do not want on my phone. MIUI seems quite enjoyable to me, although I have to admit, due to how I am worried that updating it will make my phone more sluggy and will affect battery life, I have yet to ever update it, still being on version 12.5.2.0.
I honestly would not mind to use a custom rom, but my preference is always stability over performance, except if that would offer me extra battery life and the current MIUI's battery life is beyond excellent in my experience, but maybe because LG G6's battery life was never that good since the day I bought it. I am definitely open to suggestions, about the course of action you people think I should take.
You can use adb commands to disable apps, but speaking from experience, you can only disable so much before things start to break, and some of the most annoying things (to me) cannot be disabled without breaking something. Also, when you update the system, all disabled things will most likely re-enable and you have to do the whole process all over again.
If you like MIUI, uninstall apps that can be uninstalled normally and use it as it is, or (and I highly recommend it) install custom ROM. If you want stability, ArrowOS or Crdroid is what you should take a look at. ArrowOS comes with gapps, while Crdroid offers tons of customization and comes as Vanilla (you can flash gapps seperately, if you want).
You sure can root your phone with stock Miui. However, you need to unlock the bootloader, first. It implies loosing all your current data. After that is done, I see no point in running stock miui, I'd go for xiaomi.eu's stable or any of the AOSP roms currently available.
I'm currently running latest crDRoid, which I'm quite enjoying. It's based of LineageOS with added tweaks and is shipped without gapps - you must installed after flashing the ROM.
Make sure you understand the process:
1. Unlock bootloader - you must wait for the 7 days to do so.
2. Flash a recovery. I suggest looking for a beta of a recovery that supports Android 12 decryption, try Nebrassy's TWRP
3. Flash your preferred ROM
4. Root it with Magisk+useful modules: safetynetfix, gms doze, etc.
Enjoy.
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Popletenec said:
You can use adb commands to disable apps, but speaking from experience, you can only disable so much before things start to break, and some of the most annoying things (to me) cannot be disabled without breaking something. Also, when you update the system, all disabled things will most likely re-enable and you have to do the whole process all over again.
If you like MIUI, uninstall apps that can be uninstalled normally and use it as it is, or (and I highly recommend it) install custom ROM. If you want stability, ArrowOS or Crdroid is what you should take a look at. ArrowOS comes with gapps, while Crdroid offers tons of customization and comes as Vanilla (you can flash gapps seperately, if you want).
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No, adb commands is something I definitely do not want to do. I want the system to allow me to actually disable something, without any sort of "brute forcing", mostly cause like you mentioned, I am worried of breaking things. I do not per se dislike google apps, but honestly if I can have as less as possible, it would be better for me. I will look into both the custom roms you mentioned, thank you =)
aurocha said:
You sure can root your phone with stock Miui. However, you need to unlock the bootloader, first. It implies loosing all your current data. After that is done, I see no point in running stock miui, I'd go for xiaomi.eu's stable or any of the AOSP roms currently available.
I'm currently running latest crDRoid, which I'm quite enjoying. It's based of LineageOS with added tweaks and is shipped without gapps - you must installed after flashing the ROM.
Make sure you understand the process:
1. Unlock bootloader - you must wait for the 7 days to do so.
2. Flash a recovery. I suggest looking for a beta of a recovery that supports Android 12 decryption, try Nebrassy's TWRP
3. Flash your preferred ROM
4. Root it with Magisk+useful modules: safetynetfix, gms doze, etc.
Enjoy.
- Regards,
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I unlocked the bootloader just yesterday, so I am done with the first part. I will definitely be checking crDroid, since it seems I can't get rid of MIUI what annoys me the most, which is it's bloatware. I guess since you guys mention to try a custom rom, I should give it a try at least, since i went ahead and unlocked the bootloader anyway. Thank you for the suggestion!
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Also, when you update the system, all disabled things will most likely re-enable and you have to do the whole process all over again.
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If you uninstall them via ADB on the active user profile they will stay uninstalled even after an update. I did so with 12.5.5 and upgraded to 13.0.1 a while back and they stayed uninstalled.
weltall2 said:
No, adb commands is something I definitely do not want to do. I want the system to allow me to actually disable something, without any sort of "brute forcing", mostly cause like you mentioned, I am worried of breaking things. I do not per se dislike google apps, but honestly if I can have as less as possible, it would be better for me. I will look into both the custom roms you mentioned, thank you =)
I unlocked the bootloader just yesterday, so I am done with the first part. I will definitely be checking crDroid, since it seems I can't get rid of MIUI what annoys me the most, which is it's bloatware. I guess since you guys mention to try a custom rom, I should give it a try at least, since i went ahead and unlocked the bootloader anyway. Thank you for the suggestion!
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You could also try XiaomiEU rom, which is basically what you want: debloated MIUI. But to have true control over the apps and features you want, rom like Crdroid is the way to go.
Oh I have seen Xiaomi EU mentioned a lot, but I kept thinking it was just the European stock roms. I just looked it up thanks to you and it indeed looks exactly like what I was asking for. I wanted to stay on MIUI cause I really worry that if it is not vanilla, it might cause problems and most importantly battery life ones.
I probably will be trying to go for crDroid, but for now I am worried I might make a mistake. I would hate it if I ended up bricking my phone, since I love Poco X3 Pro.
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Oh I have seen Xiaomi EU mentioned a lot, but I kept thinking it was just the European stock roms. I just looked it up thanks to you and it indeed looks exactly like what I was asking for. I wanted to stay on MIUI cause I really worry that if it is not vanilla, it might cause problems and most importantly battery life ones.
I probably will be trying to go for crDroid, but for now I am worried I might make a mistake. I would hate it if I ended up bricking my phone, since I love Poco X3 Pro.
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Don't worry, you won't brick your phone if you just follow instructions, even then, you would have to do some crazy **** to hard brick your phone, most likely you will just end up with bootloop, which is always fixable by just reflashing the rom.
Read carefully and everything will be fine. I am on ArrowOS since I got the phone, updating regularly, rooting, using magisk modules, zero problems so far. Most of the time, battery life is better since useless bloat won't drain it so much.
Purely for battery life reasons I would personally never suggest switching to a custom rom from MIUI, because with a few ADB commands you can get rid of most of the "useless" bloat. However, if you are concerned about your privacy and don't want to feed Xiaomi with your data, then Lineage would be a good choice as an alternative OS, since at least the official versions are heavily regulated.
The battery life of a debloated MIUI is fantastic, at least in my case.
Ok, this will probably be a bit of a dumb and final question before I jump into the whole custom rome in the next days when I have time. I have seen a lot of times people mentioning TWRP or in general recovery that should be android 12 compatible, rather than the normal v11 provided in the twrp site. crDroid even seems to offer it's own recovery for it's latest android 12.1 version. I am still on Android 11 (MIUI 12.5.2.0). Does that mean I need to first update my phone to the latest MIUI to upgrade my software to android 12, or the recovery is backwards compatible?
I would definitely update to latest stock rom, then flash recovery and install ROM.
Hi!! I'm on the same situation here, coming from a Poco 1 (which is being really hard to let go) to a Poco x3 Pro so this thread is being really useful to me cause I'm basically on the same dilemma, stock vs custom?
I always used custom but when I bought my Poco 1 there was an automated script that unbloated the phone so I did that and stayed with the stock with no issues at all in this 3 years of use.
Now, for the poco x3, the only way of doing the same is by going app by app and removing it through ADB which, as you mentioned, is not that good if you are not sure what to remove so that made me think of going to a custom rom. I mean, I just installed it and all that xiaomi junk is removed.
What I didn't know is that the EU version was debloated so that could be a good option for me but, here's my questionk besides de bloated apps, which is the diference between EU and Global roms? Are they target for the same version of the phone or I could have like NFC disable or radio issues? Cause I though there were different version of the stock roms cause the hardware was diferent between devices.
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I would definitely update to latest stock rom, then flash recovery and install ROM.
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Ok, first I am going to let the updater do it's job finally and then the rest. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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What I didn't know is that the EU version was debloated so that could be a good option for me but, here's my questionk besides de bloated apps, which is the diference between EU and Global roms? Are they target for the same version of the phone or I could have like NFC disable or radio issues? Cause I though there were different version of the stock roms cause the hardware was diferent between devices.
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Just to point out, Xiaomi EU is in a way a custom rom. The Xiaomi.EU community taken the Chinese rom, that has less bloat and more features, translating it and sharing it to people. Just because it it called debloated, that does not mean it does not come with the same Xiaomi Apps. It is still MIUI and that means some Xiaomi apps will still be impossible to disable and also apps like the Xiaomi Security that will softbrick your phone if disabled, still is needed and will cause the same thing in the Xiaomi.EU rom.
It is the main reason I am thinking of trying crDroid, or else like you said, I would not mind just a debloated stock rom, since afar from all the needed Xiaomi apps, MIUI seems quite enjoyable to me. If you check their forums though, you will see even the Xiaomi.EU has it's own problems.
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Ok, first I am going to let the updater do it's job finally and then the rest. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Just to point out, Xiaomi EU is in a way a custom rom. The Xiaomi.EU community taken the Chinese rom, that has less bloat and more features, translating it and sharing it to people. Just because it it called debloated, that does not mean it does not come with the same Xiaomi Apps. It is still MIUI and that means some Xiaomi apps will still be impossible to disable and also apps like the Xiaomi Security that will softbrick your phone if disabled, still is needed and will cause the same thing in the Xiaomi.EU rom.
It is the main reason I am thinking of trying crDroid, or else like you said, I would not mind just a debloated stock rom, since afar from all the needed Xiaomi apps, MIUI seems quite enjoyable to me. If you check their forums though, you will see even the Xiaomi.EU has it's own problems.
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Ohhhh I see! I think I'll try crDroid too and Arrow, as long as it's debloated, the IR works as long with the radio and the nfc, I'm happy.