Question Help with the Lock? - Samsung Galaxy Watch 4

Ok, 3rd day with the watch and this is absolutely killing the experience for me. You have to have a lock on it to use the Pay App. Fine. But in 2 hours this morning, I havent taken the watch off and I've had to enter the pin 17 times (yes, I counted)
I have rebooted. The watch is now on so tight that the band is leaving an indentation mark on my wrist..... what are you meant to do ??

Quaz1 said:
Ok, 3rd day with the watch and this is absolutely killing the experience for me. You have to have a lock on it to use the Pay App. Fine. But in 2 hours this morning, I havent taken the watch off and I've had to enter the pin 17 times (yes, I counted)
I have rebooted. The watch is now on so tight that the band is leaving an indentation mark on my wrist..... what are you meant to do ??
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This is how i understand procedure and this method ,works 100% for me .!!!
I have the Watch 4 ( wifi SM-870)
(Got watch about a month back)
Since day one, i had no issues with ,unlock watch .
Firstly,if i strap my watch to wrist ,i make sure its just comfortable/snug and not to tight .!!!
(Enough space to slip strap into place and ,pull strap out .)
I only unlock my watch only once (when on my wrist .!)
If i wear watch for 6 hours ...8 hours ....etc, i only unlock once.!
Yes ,when i take the watch off ,i have to unlock (with gesture ) every time i want to check or use watch .
So for me its obvious, your watch/sensor does not recognize ,the fact that watch is on your wrist and thus
forcing you to unlock every time ..!
Also,(as you describe in your post above) your watch is to tight on your wrist ...!!
Maybe try a watch reset and start from fresh ?
If issue stil pessist, then obviously it must be a "faulty sensor"
that can't detect if you have watch on wrist or not.?
good luck .

For your reference, I only have to input the lock once in the morning after I put it on.
Make sure it's on your wrist securely.

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GPS Lock on LG Urbane 2 LTE

I am using the Wear GPS app to find if I have a GPS lock. Strange, sometimes when wearing the watch, I couldn't get a lock at all, waited more than 30 mins. It was almost like the watch GPS was broken.
I am still researching the problem, but this is what helped me to get a lock in less than 1 minute:
Method#1. Take the watch off and hold it by the clasp,
Method#2. Flip the watch up-side-down a few times (to calibrate the compass),
Method#3. Open the Hiking watch face.
What is your experience?
Thanks,
S.
smatofu said:
I am using the Wear GPS app to find if I have a GPS lock. Strange, sometimes when wearing the watch, I couldn't get a lock at all, waited more than 30 mins. It was almost like the watch GPS was broken.
I am still researching the problem, but this is what helped me to get a lock in less than 1 minute:
Method#1. Take the watch off and hold it by the clasp,
Method#2. Flip the watch up-side-down a few times (to calibrate the compass),
Method#3. Open the Hiking watch face.
What is your experience?
Thanks,
S.
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I'll try this next time I have an issue, thanks for yet another tip! Today, Wear GPS could not lock into any satellites at all. I saw one after a while, but Ghostracer recorded 0 miles run. I was starting to wonder if I broke the GPS because I have to tighten the watchband all the way to the second hole, but later, I tried again and it locked to a bunch of satellites.
Is the GPS module inside the watchband, do you know?
xendula said:
Is the GPS module inside the watchband, do you know?
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I don't know where parts are, but taking the watch off and holding it by the clasp gives me immediate lock with or without Wear GPS.
Smatofu, how do you come with this stuff?!? So, I waited forever for a signal today, then remebered to shake it, and voilá, I had a bazillion signals!
Will try out the holding by the clasp thing next time. Thanks for your solutions!
xendula said:
Smatofu, how do you come with this stuff?!? So, I waited forever for a signal today, then remebered to shake it, and voilá, I had a bazillion signals!
Will try out the holding by the clasp thing next time. Thanks for your solutions!
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Shaking/flipping came from the LG Hiking watch face. You have to flip the watch a few times to calibrate the compass. I noticed that calibrating the compass helps in GPS lock.
gps lock problem
Same problem here,
I've installed wear GPS app to see satellite view and signal quality on watch.
With the watch out of the wrist, got lock after few seconds with very good accuracy (4m).
If I put it back on the wrist, the signal quality goes down and accuracy goes very bad. I've the same results if I put two or three fingers in the back of the watch when out of the wrist. Seems that body affects to signal reception.
I don't know if is a core production problem of the watch or is an individual problem of my watch.
Anyone has good gps working? I'll replace it with new one, but maybe is a watch design problem.
Br.
jambolero said:
Same problem here,
I've installed wear GPS app to see satellite view and signal quality on watch.
With the watch out of the wrist, got lock after few seconds with very good accuracy (4m).
If I put it back on the wrist, the signal quality goes down and accuracy goes very bad. I've the same results if I put two or three fingers in the back of the watch when out of the wrist. Seems that body affects to signal reception.
I don't know if is a core production problem of the watch or is an individual problem of my watch.
Anyone has good gps working? I'll replace it with new one, but maybe is a watch design problem.
Br.
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I've had my watch for about 13 months. I had similar issues except mine seemed to be sweat related, similar to issues some have had with the Sony SW3. I would get a lock and start a run but the signal would sometimes lag after a mile or so causing an erratic recording on ghostracer. I started wearing a 2" wristband under my watch during runs starting last summer and GPS has been perfect since then (about 70 runs ranging 3 to 10 miles each).
I'm always paired to my phone through cell data and I think that has helped also.

Want to buy samsung gear s2 classic - few questions I couldn't find any answers.

Hello All,
I'm trying to decide which smartwatch I want to buy and I'm torn between samsung gear s2 and huawei watch.
I think, I already watched almost all of tests /reviews but none of them had answers for my questions related to samsung gear s2. Please help me with them ,so I could finally made my decision
1) Notifications - no one never tell/show how the notification is working. As assume that when I receive any notification, watch will turn on and vibrate will be on. But what happen when I miss it?
I heard that there is some "orange" notification? How it looks like ? Can we see it in ambient mode?
Is there any "you go XX notification" counter or its more like you have new notification scroll the dial to see how much and from what apps?
I came back from garmin vivosmart band where once it receive notification it show it on screen, then goes black but when I wake it up it show mail icon with number of unread notifications.
2) Ambient mode - I didn't see it on person in samsung gear s2. On Huawei Watch its look sharp and very detailed but on pictures on net ambient mode in gear s2 looks less sharp and limited. Not downgraded "ambient mode" like moto360 but I get a feeling that is less detailed. Is that tue or ambient mode is the same sharp/crisp like normal watchface but in black/white mode?
3) Ambient mode #2 - I like that on huawei watch ambient mode is very detailed and can stay always on. I read that there is potential issue with samsung that after some time, while still wearing watch on hand it will turn black, even if there is always on ambient mode enabled. Is that true ? Thsi is a major sells point because I want to have it always on when I have it on my wrist.
4) Endurance - Most of you have this watch for a long time now. Is there are any problem with battery, screen burn in ect on it? Again my vivosmart have oled screen issue that start to show black pixels after 5-9 months ( depending on the usage) and this is now a known hardware problem that happen on all the devices. So I would know if there are "known" hardware issues that could pop-up after a while or not.
Thanks in advance for your help.
wiilczek said:
Hello All,
I'm trying to decide which smartwatch I want to buy and I'm torn between samsung gear s2 and huawei watch. HUAWEI IS OK BUT TOO THICK FOR ME. I LIKE THE FEEL OF THE GEAR. PLUS BATTERY LIFE IS ALOT WORSE ACCORDING TO FORUMS. tHAT'S A SHOW STOPPER FOR ME.
I think, I already watched almost all of tests /reviews but none of them had answers for my questions related to samsung gear s2. Please help me with them ,so I could finally made my decision
1) Notifications - no one never tell/show how the notification is working. As assume that when I receive any notification, watch will turn on and vibrate will be on. But what happen when I miss it?
I heard that there is some "orange" notification? How it looks like ? Can we see it in ambient mode? NOTIFICATIONS WORK JUST LIKE YOU DESCRIBE - VIBRATE AND AN NOTICE ON THE WATCH FOR AFEW SECONDS. IF YOU MISS IT, YOU MISS IT. ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS SWIPE RIGHT AND YOU CAN SEE YOUR NOTIFICATION. THE ORANGE DOT THING ISN'T IN THE US YET, IF YOU ARE HERE.
Is there any "you go XX notification" counter or its more like you have new notification scroll the dial to see how much and from what apps? NOT ON A SCREEN WHERE YOU CAN SEE (AT LEAST THAT I HAVE FOUND) BUT THERE ARE WATCH FACES YOU CAN GET THAT DO THAT. JUST NOT STOCK.
I came back from garmin vivosmart band where once it receive notification it show it on screen, then goes black but when I wake it up it show mail icon with number of unread notifications.
2) Ambient mode - I didn't see it on person in samsung gear s2. On Huawei Watch its look sharp and very detailed but on pictures on net ambient mode in gear s2 looks less sharp and limited. Not downgraded "ambient mode" like moto360 but I get a feeling that is less detailed. Is that tue or ambient mode is the same sharp/crisp like normal watchface but in black/white mode? THERE ISN'T AN AMBIENT MODE AS YOU DESCRIBE. THERE IS AN ALWAYS ON MODE WITH LESS INFO BUT I THINK MOST PEOPLE SIMPLY DIM THEIR SCREENS. IT HASN'T BEEN AN ISSUE WITH ME.
3) Ambient mode #2 - I like that on huawei watch ambient mode is very detailed and can stay always on. I read that there is potential issue with samsung that after some time, while still wearing watch on hand it will turn black, even if there is always on ambient mode enabled. Is that true ? Thsi is a major sells point because I want to have it always on when I have it on my wrist. THERE IS AN ALWAY ON MODE BUT IT EATS UP BATTERY AND THE DETAIL ISN'T THE SAME.
4) Endurance - Most of you have this watch for a long time now. Is there are any problem with battery, screen burn in ect on it? Again my vivosmart have oled screen issue that start to show black pixels after 5-9 months ( depending on the usage) and this is now a known hardware problem that happen on all the devices. So I would know if there are "known" hardware issues that could pop-up after a while or not. HAD MINE FOR ABOUT 3 MONTHS. NO SCREEN BURN, BATTERY IS FINE BECAUSE I'M NOT CALCULATING THE NATIONAL DEBT EVERY 5 MINS AND I DON'T USE THINGS I DON'T NEED. I GET ABOUT 2 DAYS.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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wiilczek said:
Hello All,
I'm trying to decide which smartwatch I want to buy and I'm torn between samsung gear s2 and huawei watch.
I think, I already watched almost all of tests /reviews but none of them had answers for my questions related to samsung gear s2. Please help me with them ,so I could finally made my decision
1) Notifications - no one never tell/show how the notification is working. As assume that when I receive any notification, watch will turn on and vibrate will be on. But what happen when I miss it?
I heard that there is some "orange" notification? How it looks like ? Can we see it in ambient mode?
Is there any "you go XX notification" counter or its more like you have new notification scroll the dial to see how much and from what apps?
I came back from garmin vivosmart band where once it receive notification it show it on screen, then goes black but when I wake it up it show mail icon with number of unread notifications.
2) Ambient mode - I didn't see it on person in samsung gear s2. On Huawei Watch its look sharp and very detailed but on pictures on net ambient mode in gear s2 looks less sharp and limited. Not downgraded "ambient mode" like moto360 but I get a feeling that is less detailed. Is that tue or ambient mode is the same sharp/crisp like normal watchface but in black/white mode?
3) Ambient mode #2 - I like that on huawei watch ambient mode is very detailed and can stay always on. I read that there is potential issue with samsung that after some time, while still wearing watch on hand it will turn black, even if there is always on ambient mode enabled. Is that true ? Thsi is a major sells point because I want to have it always on when I have it on my wrist.
4) Endurance - Most of you have this watch for a long time now. Is there are any problem with battery, screen burn in ect on it? Again my vivosmart have oled screen issue that start to show black pixels after 5-9 months ( depending on the usage) and this is now a known hardware problem that happen on all the devices. So I would know if there are "known" hardware issues that could pop-up after a while or not.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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I'll try to answer you. I've had my Classic since December 26.
If the watch is on your wrist, it will vibrate when a Notification arrives. Different apps handle and send notifications differently. GoogleApp will only show last one. SMS will only show last one. (But, the Message App will let you scroll through all of them). TypeApp will show last one, but will also show a number of emails. If you click on that you can scroll through emails. There is a separate "queue" of email notifcations for each email account I have synched.
Each app has it's own notification queue. You can access them by scrolling wheel to the left. Or, swiping to the right. You can get rid of the notification by swiping to the top.
In the version in the US, with the current firmware, we don't have the orange notification. The version is Korea seems to have it, but I don't know if the version rolling out in Europe does.
The ambient mode watch face is a separate watch face that the watch designer designs. It doesn't have to look like the normal watch face. The intent is to be a low power mode only white pixels used. Mine never turns off when the watch is on the wrist, but some have reported issues with theirs going completely black. I have the setting for Always On. I also have the setting turned on for the Wake Up Gesture. This wil turn on the full watch face when you flick your wrist. Can be disconcerting in the cinema or driving at night, to have your watch turn on. Especially if you use a mostly white face like I do. (I currently use Pavilion by Liongate - mostly because it has a good ambient mode)
I've been wearing my watch every day, all day long and "it takes a licking, and still keeps ticking". I get a good 2 days on a full charge. But, most days I recharge when I sleep.
Thank you rlichtefeld and rogerperk for your kind reply !
It seems that samsung in term of functionality is the best option. However based on my experience with samsung device ( I had several smartphones) I worried that after a year, support for samsung gear s2 will be droped and the apps/firmware for "new" samsung watch will not be compatible with this model. Android wear is more "update proof" as still you can update the system on older moto360. What I geeting from review and this forum is that gear s2 is a "great device but lack of apps/support" . Well.. it would be simpler if this "companion devices" for smartphones was little bit cheaper, because at this price point its not that easy to decide.
And speaking about the price, currently after a little price drop by huawei (in Europe) I can buy huawei watch silver/black band model in the same price as samsung gear s2 classic. So its even harder to choose "best" option.
wiilczek said:
Thank you rlichtefeld and rogerperk for your kind reply !
It seems that samsung in term of functionality is the best option. However based on my experience with samsung device ( I had several smartphones) I worried that after a year, support for samsung gear s2 will be droped and the apps/firmware for "new" samsung watch will not be compatible with this model. Android wear is more "update proof" as still you can update the system on older moto360. What I geeting from review and this forum is that gear s2 is a "great device but lack of apps/support" . Well.. it would be simpler if this "companion devices" for smartphones was little bit cheaper, because at this price point its not that easy to decide.
And speaking about the price, currently after a little price drop by huawei (in Europe) I can buy huawei watch silver/black band model in the same price as samsung gear s2 classic. So its even harder to choose "best" option.
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As with anything dealing with electronics, if you wait long enough there will always be something cheaper and more powerful. However, while you wait, you don't get to use the tools/toys that you can get right now.
The S2 Classic is what I wanted in a smart watch. It is the correct size for me, and the rotating bezel works extremely well. I also wanted a watch where I could switch out the watch band.
Everyone has different wants and needs. As my grandfather used to say: "If everyone all liked the same thing, there would have been a big fight over your grandma".
Could the watch be better? Certainly. But, it is a very, very good smart watch.
Rob
rlichtefeld said:
As with anything dealing with electronics, if you wait long enough there will always be something cheaper and more powerful. However, while you wait, you don't get to use the tools/toys that you can get right now.
The S2 Classic is what I wanted in a smart watch. It is the correct size for me, and the rotating bezel works extremely well. I also wanted a watch where I could switch out the watch band.
Everyone has different wants and needs. As my grandfather used to say: "If everyone all liked the same thing, there would have been a big fight over your grandma".
Could the watch be better? Certainly. But, it is a very, very good smart watch.
Rob
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Thank you again for your kind answer. You are absolutely right with waiting . I appreciate your argument , but finally I decided and bought.. huawei watch. What can I say? Samsung gear S2 is a very good smartwatch (for todays standard) but when I had an opportunity to take in both hands samsung gear s2 and huawei watch (price was not a factor because in the store they cost more/less the same), samsung feels more like sport active watch (similar to garmin watches) and huawei feels more like a classic watch.
And this is what I need. A smartwatch that replicates classic feeling, and with the great skymaster pilot watchface I'm more than happy now.
wiilczek said:
Thank you again for your kind answer. You are absolutely right with waiting . I appreciate your argument , but finally I decided and bought.. huawei watch. What can I say? Samsung gear S2 is a very good smartwatch (for todays standard) but when I had an opportunity to take in both hands samsung gear s2 and huawei watch (price was not a factor because in the store they cost more/less the same), samsung feels more like sport active watch (similar to garmin watches) and huawei feels more like a classic watch.
And this is what I need. A smartwatch that replicates classic feeling, and with the great skymaster pilot watchface I'm more than happy now.
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i actually just switched from huawei watch to gear s2. huawei watch has consistent performance issues, even after rooting. connection issues too. it also weighs a ton and looks like some kind of insane homing beacon you would attach to a walrus or something. battery life isnt the greatest either, and i found it to be erratic, despite my actual SOT or quantity of messages. some days i would get home with 65% left and some days 25%, which i found to be the stupidest of the stoop as far as features go. best feature was voice command... when it worked.
gear s2 pretty much performs the same all the time, which is pretty well. i havent had any connection issues with it either. it connects fast and stays connected (note 4 - CM13). it weighs about what a normal watch would weigh and is the perfect size. doesnt protrude from the wrist like the walrus beacon. the sensor in it is so fast that i can actually leave ambient-mode off and strictly rely on flicking my wrist to turn the screen on. huawei watch sensor was slow so i always ambient mode on. s-voice leaves something to be desired, but the functionality and battery life (which is also very consistent) are really awesome on this watch. i dont regret switching one bit.
WaxysDargle said:
i actually just switched from huawei watch to gear s2. huawei watch has consistent performance issues, even after rooting. connection issues too. it also weighs a ton and looks like some kind of insane homing beacon you would attach to a walrus or something. battery life isnt the greatest either, and i found it to be erratic, despite my actual SOT or quantity of messages. some days i would get home with 65% left and some days 25%, which i found to be the stupidest of the stoop as far as features go. best feature was voice command... when it worked.
gear s2 pretty much performs the same all the time, which is pretty well. i havent had any connection issues with it either. it connects fast and stays connected (note 4 - CM13). it weighs about what a normal watch would weigh and is the perfect size. doesnt protrude from the wrist like the walrus beacon. the sensor in it is so fast that i can actually leave ambient-mode off and strictly rely on flicking my wrist to turn the screen on. huawei watch sensor was slow so i always ambient mode on. s-voice leaves something to be desired, but the functionality and battery life (which is also very consistent) are really awesome on this watch. i dont regret switching one bit.
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Thanks WaxyDargle for your comment. My shop give me 10 days back policy if I want to return huawei watch. To reply to your comment I will try to answer objectively what I thought about huawei after 2 days ( I paired it with samsung S5 with custom Rom)
Performance issues - for me I didn't accounter any but maybe its to soon to comment.
Connection issues - again I had few problems (about this later) but the connection itself was solid.
Battery - I take it to office at 7:50 AM yesterday and today at 4 PM it says " you got 5% battery". From this moment watch turn of "always on mode" and "wifi mode" and the brightness was way below minimum you can set . Still watch finally give up just after 20 PM . So first impression: battery is acceptable. During that time I receive several calls, mails, facebook notification so I can say that I use it a lot.
watch design&look - You said that it "weights a ton" but for me its very very light and I didnt see any noticible differents in weight to samsung gear s2. During a day I forget that I had it on the wrist. Regarding thickness - it doesnt look thick when you put it on a wrist.
voice command - yup. Working 2 out of 10 but when its recognize voice its working correctly. "WHEN" ...
Biggest Pros so far: Please check attachments where I put my ambient and normal mode. IT LOOKS GREAT . Its stay that way and it didn't went to black when I have it on the wrist .To add more my co-worker that was sterring at my watch for a while didnt notice that was a smartwatch unitl screen light on to show a message.
Biggest cons : Samsung vibration is just BETTER. I mean compared to huawei watch I need to use special 3rd party app on huawei just to set vibration pattern to be noticable . Now it's OK but not "Great". "Out of the box" you definitelly will miss more incoming messages in huawei than in samsung.
Android Wear has several issues : sometimes not every message will show on a watch and in current 1.4 release there is 3 seconds (!!!) delay to incoming call after it will show on the watch. Downgrading to version 1.2 will solve this issue (no delays) but some other notification will/could not show up. Overall to not get too deep into issues, after reading several post here on the XDA I menaged to (hopefully) "solve" all of them but I believe that for customer who is no technician/dont know XDA or dont have a time to solving android issues (that currently exist on android wear) this would be a major let down. If Samsung is stable in synchronizing incoming notification - I would recommend samsung/tizen for most people.
So in the end currently I still prefer huawei but it have it flaws and not everyone will like it.
wiilczek said:
Thanks WaxyDargle for your comment. My shop give me 10 days back policy if I want to return huawei watch. To reply to your comment I will try to answer objectively what I thought about huawei after 2 days ( I paired it with samsung S5 with custom Rom)
Performance issues - for me I didn't accounter any but maybe its to soon to comment.
Connection issues - again I had few problems (about this later) but the connection itself was solid.
Battery - I take it to office at 7:50 AM yesterday and today at 4 PM it says " you got 5% battery". From this moment watch turn of "always on mode" and "wifi mode" and the brightness was way below minimum you can set . Still watch finally give up just after 20 PM . So first impression: battery is acceptable. During that time I receive several calls, mails, facebook notification so I can say that I use it a lot.
watch design&look - You said that it "weights a ton" but for me its very very light and I didnt see any noticible differents in weight to samsung gear s2. During a day I forget that I had it on the wrist. Regarding thickness - it doesnt look thick when you put it on a wrist.
voice command - yup. Working 2 out of 10 but when its recognize voice its working correctly. "WHEN" ...
Biggest Pros so far: Please check attachments where I put my ambient and normal mode. IT LOOKS GREAT . Its stay that way and it didn't went to black when I have it on the wrist .To add more my co-worker that was sterring at my watch for a while didnt notice that was a smartwatch unitl screen light on to show a message.
Biggest cons : Samsung vibration is just BETTER. I mean compared to huawei watch I need to use special 3rd party app on huawei just to set vibration pattern to be noticable . Now it's OK but not "Great". "Out of the box" you definitelly will miss more incoming messages in huawei than in samsung.
Android Wear has several issues : sometimes not every message will show on a watch and in current 1.4 release there is 3 seconds (!!!) delay to incoming call after it will show on the watch. Downgrading to version 1.2 will solve this issue (no delays) but some other notification will/could not show up. Overall to not get too deep into issues, after reading several post here on the XDA I menaged to (hopefully) "solve" all of them but I believe that for customer who is no technician/dont know XDA or dont have a time to solving android issues (that currently exist on android wear) this would be a major let down. If Samsung is stable in synchronizing incoming notification - I would recommend samsung/tizen for most people.
So in the end currently I still prefer huawei but it have it flaws and not everyone will like it.
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one thing i did on the huawei that almost completely fixed the connection issue was to install android wear 1.3 on my phone. version 1.4 made those issues drastically worse.
WaxysDargle said:
one thing i did on the huawei that almost completely fixed the connection issue was to install android wear 1.3 on my phone. version 1.4 made those issues drastically worse.
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True . They massed it up in new version, but its android fault not a huawei itself - "Blame the game not the player". For now after few "extra tricks" from XDA its working ok. However If the problem will reappear in upcoming days I will consider to switch on samsung. Will see.
wiilczek said:
True . They massed it up in new version, but its android fault not a huawei itself - "Blame the game not the player". For now after few "extra tricks" from XDA its working ok. However If the problem will reappear in upcoming days I will consider to switch on samsung. Will see.
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honestly, i am just waiting for android to get it right. im not a huge fan of samsung, and will probably just return it for an android wear later on as part of my protection plan. samsung is better right now but wont be for long
WaxysDargle said:
honestly, i am just waiting for android to get it right. im not a huge fan of samsung, and will probably just return it for an android wear later on as part of my protection plan. samsung is better right now but wont be for long
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This week huawei should receive android wear 6.0.1 with speaker support. Supposedly it works better. I will post an update after this upgrade will arrive via OTA if it was worth the wait.

Attention Samsung, these are our TOP complaints!

Who knows, they might find this thread and act
To kick it off:
1) Heart rate sensor is more miss than hit. I see a lot of 'clean the sensor and move it backward' messages. Nonsense of course, it should just work.
2) Floor count is totally 1000% off. Today I climbed well over 20 stairs (3-4 meter stairs) and the S3 indicates a glorious total of 3. Yes THREE Samsung, 3.
3) Altitude meter tells me I live 16 meters below sea level. I live in Amsterdam which is 3 meters below (really). But it gets better. During my yesterday's run it registered an elevation of -112 meter.
4) Messages from the phone do not always arrive on the S3. Maybe aliens interfere but that's unlikely so Samsung, please fix this. nr 1 missed is GMail, then Whatsapp.
5) This is not a bug but I would really like to see an option to permanently disable this watch as a Bluetooth device to take phone calls. I have my car for that, or my phone. Not the stupid watch.
OK, over to you guys, bring it on!
For your point 5, I think you can do this in the bluetooth settings for the watch on the phone - just turn off 'call audio'. NB: I have not tried this...
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For your point 5, I think you can do this in the bluetooth settings for the watch on the phone - just turn off 'call audio'. NB: I have not tried this...
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If it worked... But it keeps switching back on, also after a soft and full reset.
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If it worked... But it keeps switching back on, also after a soft and full reset.
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I was able to get it to stick permanently by repairing my car bluetooth and setting it to Phone Calls while having the watch disabled.
I'll try it again tomorrow, who knows!
Spotify
Advertising Spotify compatibility when as of right now, there is not.
Wrist gestures like in Android Wear
I always thought that you had to calibrate the altimeter at sea level???
Regarding #4: are you using AOD? If not, try using AOD and see if your notifications are more consistent.
PLS give me options for Google maps directions. I need nothing more than the direction arrows on the watch. No map needed. Anyway screen is too small for that. Just xxx meter +arrow
But I am super happy with the rest (off topic)
edit. I have found possible solution for the nav arrows Directions gears s2, which works with google maps.
Both on Phone and on gear an app is needed.
odyseus said:
I always thought that you had to calibrate the altimeter at sea level???
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Tried both ways, Calibrate known height and altimeter.
Googling this there are loads of S2 complaints regarding this, I guess this is not much improved.
most people complaining about altimeter don't know how a barometer works
also the best altimeter based on atmosferic pressure must be calibrated every time is possible to give good results
when the weather change a variation in pressure can be of 3-5 Hpa in 30 minutes and on altimeter more than 50m
weather change is a storm but also a fairy wind
when s3 measure a floor it register a .3 Hpa variation that must be in 5 to 20 sec
also a slap on the watch can be seen as a floor and the immersion in 50 cm of water can be 10 floors and also a shower and a storm
after a shower o a swimming pool the barometer is out of order for hours
samsung is most of times a good tech but can't do miracles
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odyseus said:
I always thought that you had to calibrate the altimeter at sea level???
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It is a good thing to do. However it's based on barometric pressure so really doesn't matter that much. The key is to do it near something you know has a known elevation that way you know if it's correct. Like a sign in a national park or something that tells you, "you are at such and such El. ..."
BTW, a lot of you take things too seriously on this device. It's a watch, as long as the time is accurate all else are fun gimmicky gadgets for your wrist. If serious accuracy of data is important to you, buy the right tool for the job. It's like owning a repair business and trying to run it using a Leatherman tool.
Well, I live in Amsterdam, pressure has been 1027 hpa all day, we're at 3m below sea-level but the watch is all over the place and I've calibrated it like 209 times. Hasn't been wet, smacked, dropped. It's a watch with a barometer that's not too good.
blackspp said:
OK, over to you guys, bring it on!
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1. hair, tattoo, excessive sweat, a large band can and will interfere with HR
2. floors / stairs / floors / stairs / verdieping / trap (used GT for dutch) -- or maybe you're trying to tell something else because 20 stairs are relatively close to 3 floors
3. atmospheric pressure is pretty unstable even at known sea levels and when is taken into account for altitude can be messy
4. I don't know, it never happened to me but it could be an issue I suppose
5. connections, disconnect BT
20 floors, some 60.meters.
When wanting to look at widgets from the clock face the bezel it turned clockwise - but the display animation rotates anti clockwise
The opposite is true to see notifications.
This just seems wrong to me and I often turn the bezel the wrong way.
I cant see Samsung changing the default behavior and I am starting to get used to it but an option to make it work 'correctly for my head' would be nice.
Hey guys, I did a full test of the gear s3 heart rate against my chest strap and Apple Watch 2 Nike. I did indoor running and indoor biking for three days. My findings are that it's almost perfect, with 2 or 3 bpms difference with my chest strap. This difference is not always, some most of the time gear s3 was matching my chest strap. The Apple Watch was good too.
Method: chest strap + wahoo iPhone app. Gear s3 below my wrist ( this is key, when you find the sweet spot, it's super accurate) + s-health on iPhone. Apple Watch + workouts app.
Let me know your findings!
Is the step count accurate and for everyone. For me I think it counts too many...,
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Techvir said:
Is the step count accurate and for everyone. For me I think it counts too many...,
Sent from my Nexus 6P
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It does.
It should only count arm movements combined with forward motion but it also incidentally counts just arm movements. Plus, this morning, it showed 54 steps when I picked it up from the drawer. Obviously it should have been zero.
Than again, on a full day it's pretty good, about the same as my Pebble Time Steel (which I compared it with over the weekend).

Third party watch straps cause vibration/sound not to work during notification/s

Hi all users,
Can someone confirm if this is a real device issue or only my device
Purchased nato-straps which has the strap under the watch and cover the sensor and also lift up the watch a bit from the skin.
Had the nato-strap some days now and it was working fine. Notifications was vibrating and phone calls had sound.
Yesterday vibrations and sound during phone calls just didn't work anymore. Happened midday out of nowhere.
Now, if i put back a different strap, which don't cover the sensor, all works perfectly.
Can som please tell me what is happening here? I can't be the only one who has noticed this. Does the watch think its not worn because of the minor liftup caused by the strap under the watch?
Feel the wear overrides this and make it work with all straps. But I really want it to work..... Just as.... Before?!
Any ideas, suggestions why this is happening would be very very helpful.
/Best regards
DuoPad said:
Hi all users,
Can someone confirm if this is a real device issue or only my device
Purchased nato-straps which has the strap under the watch and cover the sensor and also lift up the watch a bit from the skin.
Had the nato-strap some days now and it was working fine. Notifications was vibrating and phone calls had sound.
Yesterday vibrations and sound during phone calls just didn't work anymore. Happened midday out of nowhere.
Now, if i put back a different strap, which don't cover the sensor, all works perfectly.
Can som please tell me what is happening here? I can't be the only one who has noticed this. Does the watch think its not worn because of the minor liftup caused by the strap under the watch?
Feel the wear overrides this and make it work with all straps. But I really want it to work..... Just as.... Before?!
Any ideas, suggestions why this is happening would be very very helpful.
/Best regards
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Your watch most definitely thinks it is not being worn. The strap is not a "minor liftup". It will completely block the sensors not to mention making charging a complete PITA. Go to Settings --> Apps and Notifications and see if "Do not disturb when off wrist" is turned on. If so then turn it off.
My watch auto locks whenever it comes off my wrist since I have Pay setup and that requires locking. IMO the kind of strap that runs under the watch is a non-starter for this watch. It also renders the HRM useless too.
Thanks so much for the update. I think you made my day just so much better! It was turned on!?
Yes, i quickly realized that these are PITA =)
Will try if this helps.
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It worked to disable. Thanks again. You saved an angry phone call for Huawei support =)
DuoPad said:
Thanks so much for the update. I think you made my day just so much better! It was turned on!?
Yes, i quickly realized that these are PITA =)
Will try if this helps.
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It worked to disable. Thanks again. You saved an angry phone call for Huawei support =)
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Why an angry call to Huwaei support? You are clearly covering all the sensors. The watch thinks it's off your wrist and what about the heart rate monitor? Why even dream of covering that?
Ok.
Humor. A joke. In the end I would have had to contact support since I didn't realize there was a sensor. Now I know.
Don't care about heart rate. I use garmin for serious running. All running apps can't match up a real Garmin with all of the features (intervall training etc). Yes i use two watches while running (4g version)

Question Google Pay locks the entire watch

Just received GWatch 4. Installed Gpay, and it requires a lock code. I get that, but, it locks the entire watch. When I used Samsung Pay, it only locked the app. Why doesn't Gpay have similar behavior?
Similar issue for me, except I am using Samsung Pay and it locks the whole watch. On my previous Galaxy Watch it worked fine and I only had to unlock to make a payment. Does anyone know why or how to prevent it?
EdzGNote7 said:
Just received GWatch 4. Installed Gpay, and it requires a lock code. I get that, but, it locks the entire watch. When I used Samsung Pay, it only locked the app. Why doesn't Gpay have similar behavior?
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Yes, OK, but the pin is only required if you remove the watch from your wrist. As long as you wear it it will not request a pin, at least not on my watch.
This is one of the differences between Tizen and Wear. I have a Ticwatch Pro 3 GPS and this is the default security for Wear OS. If you want GPay you have to have a lock in place and on Wear it's to lock the device when not on your wrist. I also have a Galaxy Watch 3, and as we all know that to use Samsung Pay only the app needs to be locked by PIN. Although this watch looks like Samsung there are still some basic things that are absolutely Wear OS...
thanito said:
Yes, OK, but the pin is only required if you remove the watch from your wrist. As long as you wear it it will not request a pin, at least not on my watch.
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Nope mine sometimes locks even when it's still on my wrist. Not all the time, but maybe about 30-40% of times I try to look at it.
stuartbruce said:
Nope mine sometimes locks even when it's still on my wrist. Not all the time, but maybe about 30-40% of times I try to look at it.
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Strange, maybe the watch thinks that you took it off? I have GPay installed and only have to unlock the watch when I take it off.
stuartbruce said:
Nope mine sometimes locks even when it's still on my wrist. Not all the time, but maybe about 30-40% of times I try to look at it.
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Is the watch snug on your wrist? If you wear it loose the watch might think you removed at some point.
Mine asks for PIN every time I look at my watch.
if im not mistaken, the reason the entire watch locks is because if the watch is awake, it will automatically use gpay if its set to default without actually having to open gpay, just like your phone
Coming from GW3, only needed pin for Sampay!
Now GW4 classic asks for pin every time I do anything but look at the time!!
If this watch is so ****ing sophisticated, with all these sensors, why the **** do I have to strangle my wrist for it to know I'm wearing it?! And even when I tighten it, it's hit or miss!
Drukan said:
Coming from GW3, only needed pin for Sampay!
Now GW4 classic asks for pin every time I do anything but look at the time!!
If this watch is so ****ing sophisticated, with all these sensors, why the **** do I have to strangle my wrist for it to know I'm wearing it?! And even when I tighten it, it's hit or miss!
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THIS is exactly what's happening to me!!!! And someone on Twitter says not the case?
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1438398410369949698
I had this issue of Gpay locking my watch every time the screen turns off, but it only happened once and a single reboot solved it for me.
Hello, I tell you that I was able to make NFC payments work with the BBVA GO Apk in Argentina, I comment on why I think that in Latin America, it saved Chile, Brazil and Mexico, there is no application to use NFC Pay. If anyone is interested I can show them how I did. I cannot create a new thread as I am not reaching the level. Best regards Miguel.
Drukan said:
Coming from GW3, only needed pin for Sampay!
Now GW4 classic asks for pin every time I do anything but look at the time!!
If this watch is so ****ing sophisticated, with all these sensors, why the **** do I have to strangle my wrist for it to know I'm wearing it?! And even when I tighten it, it's hit or miss!
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Same issue with Spay. Would be great if someone can find a way to turn off that screenlock with NFC payment apps
BabeShaq said:
I had this issue of Gpay locking my watch every time the screen turns off, but it only happened once and a single reboot solved it for me.
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resolved means- don't you need to unlock screen when you are not wearing it???
EdzGNote7 said:
Just received GWatch 4. Installed Gpay, and it requires a lock code. I get that, but, it locks the entire watch. When I used Samsung Pay, it only locked the app. Why doesn't Gpay have similar behavior?
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GPay did the same thing for me. I had to put the created pin in every single time I tried to do anything on my watch. Didn't matter if it was on my wrist or not. I just went into the watch settings a removed the pin. Now it doesn't ask for it
V3N0M_90 said:
GPay did the same thing for me. I had to put the created pin in every single time I tried to do anything on my watch. Didn't matter if it was on my wrist or not. I just went into the watch settings a removed the pin. Now it doesn't ask for it
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But if you removed the PIN, then you must have lost Gpay right?
Yeah this is doing my head in.. Got the watch a couple days ago. Want to use GPay but you need a pin. OK cool.... but its asking for that pin EVERY time i want to do something on my watch.... its infuriating.
Anyone got a solution?
only when i take and put it back do i need a pin...
go to settings /security
photo shows what i have
Just wonderful. I've used SPay for years on many different phones. Now that MST is gone using NFC on a watch factored into me buying a Watch 4. I installed SPay on the watch and needed to put in the PIN every time I left the main watch screen. I was hoping GPay was different, but apparently not. I am not going to be forever punching in a PIN. Who has time for that? Why even have such an unusable app installed? Put the PIN in before using the app ONLY! Just like on a phone. Samsung this is a lose for you. Technology is marching backwards by being less usable.

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