Encrypted WhatsApp Backup disabled for alternate ROMs? - General Questions and Answers

Hello everybody out there using Lineage OS or other alternative ROMs,
When I read about WhatsApp offering encrypted backups via Google Drive on https://www.xda-developers.com/whatsapp-rolls-out-end-to-end-encrypted-backups/, I thought it would be a way to transfer WhatsApp data between different Android phones (despite favoring Signal as a Chat App myself).
WhatsApp gives some information on https://faq.whatsapp.com/general/chats/how-to-turn-on-and-turn-off-end-to-end-encrypted-backup/ without specifically refering to alternate ROMs, of course.
I'm using WhatsApp version 2.21.24.22 (which should be reasonably new) on Lineage OS and cannot see the option for encrypted backups in the "Chat" section of the WhatsApp settings.
Can anyone replicate this behaviour on Lineage OS or other alternative ROMs?
In the past, I could transfer my WhatsApp data via copying the
Code:
msgstore.db.crypt14
file, but I don't know where to put it on the new phone (Fairphone 2) SD card so it would be recognized by WhatsApp as a backup.
Many people have problems in moving WhatsApp data to a new phone as indicated in:
https://www.reddit.com/r/whatsapp/comments/ne9x7e
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...grating-from-stock-to-lineageos-14-1.4073629/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ailed-google-drive-and-local-back-up.3816605/
(Note the first one entitled "WhatsApp Backups ... a rant".)
I'm wondering whether it would be easier to educate millions of other people to use alternative chat clients.

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[Q] how to back up / restore weixin / wechat

message history lost - happened once or twice before - on this round perhaps due to unauthorized access - don't know why anyone would want to hack to my wechat, but...
yes, i know that titanium backup can do this - only, i happen to have a backup of the app's files from the SD card that's much later than the latest titanium backup.
so i've overwritten the message directory on the SD card
\tencent\MicroMsg\b51e1101d48c856d9e55dceeb6ea2af5\*.*
with the latest backup, but the app doesn't recognize the stuff between the titanium backup / the later files. how to force it to? how does it manage these files anyway?
(the answer to this might also help in managing the app's thousands of files in order to keep the phone functioning.)
have a try?
not knowing why your wechat got hacked, maybe you`ve got spyed by ur enemies?
I accidentally downloaded Clean Master from gp,(sorry as a new member, i`m not allowed to post a link here)
and it works well on both protecting my privacy and do the cache cleaning.
have a try?
hacking is a separate issue
Iankicksass said:
not knowing why your wechat got hacked, maybe you`ve got spyed by ur enemies?
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this thread/question is about backing up / restoring weixin based on its files on the SDcard.
Standard practices for backing up and recover Wechat history
I have gone through the below link which explain the detail procedure of backup and recover/restore Wechat history. It might help you.
ww.saveintrash.com/backup-recover-wechat-history-android-iphone-ios-windows-phone/
zdoe said:
this thread/question is about backing up / restoring weixin based on its files on the SDcard.
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Hi, have you manage to solve the problem? Im now facing roughly the same problem. I checked the wechat directory, all my conversation and voice msgs are still there. But my new installed wechat just could not recognize it, and show a blank new wechat with no chat history whatever.
How to force it to recognize it? Thanks
backing up / restoring weixin | house cleaning / maintenance
drumhitz said:
Hi, have you manage to solve the problem? Im now facing roughly the same problem. I checked the wechat directory, all my conversation and voice msgs are still there. But my new installed wechat just could not recognize it, and show a blank new wechat with no chat history whatever.
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turns out that the message history is NOT on the files that are on the sd card - the sd card files are thumbnails, pictures, whatnot for the visual content. the messages are in an (encrypted) sqlite database on the phone's internal flash storage.
i do not know of what logic, if any, the app uses to either open the existing database (if found) or creating a new one - i've seen it do both, despite my always wanting to use the same account / database.
if i recall right, i just bit the bullet and restored the app/data from my titanium backup, thus losing a few days of messages as that backup was not up to date.
or - on the recent versions you can backup to tencent servers / restore from there - i guess primary use for that is when moving to a new phone. they only keep the backup file 7 days, and don't let you access it locally.
as for how to access the message database in a readable format, please let me know if you figure it out - weixin (at least the old version that i'm using) destroys any device it's on by not performing any housekeeping and thus clogging all the pipes until nothing works. so would be great if the message database could be optimized/cleaned/delete oldest by an extrernal sqlite app.
(the image files you CAN delete from your sd card - which i do periodically to kill the old ones.)
some related reading:
http://support.wechat.com/cgi-bin/mmsupport-bin/readtemplate?t=weixin_unlock_self&step=0
http://blog.emaze.net/2013/09/a-look-at-wechat-security.html
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/i...-backuping-up-all-messaging-apps-4108833.html
http://www.netadmin.com.tw/article_content.aspx?sn=1306280001&jump=4
http://www.bankshung.com/2013/07/ioswechat.html
turns out that the message history is NOT on the files that are on the sd card----------------this info helps me lot,thanks
generaltlt said:
-this info helps me lot,thanks
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you could always click the thanks-button.
Where to find titanium backup
zdoe said:
message history lost - happened once or twice before - on this round perhaps due to unauthorized access - don't know why anyone would want to hack to my wechat, but...
yes, i know that titanium backup can do this - only, i happen to have a backup of the app's files from the SD card that's much later than the latest titanium backup.
so i've overwritten the message directory on the SD card
\tencent\MicroMsg\b51e1101d48c856d9e55dceeb6ea2af5\*.*
with the latest backup, but the app doesn't recognize the stuff between the titanium backup / the later files. how to force it to? how does it manage these files anyway?
(the answer to this might also help in managing the app's thousands of files in order to keep the phone functioning.)
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Hey you said you are using titanium backup, does ot work well? let me know where do I find it
Is it possible to back up wechat messages
I want to permatenantly back up wechat messages, because all messages will lost after I re-install wechat
well, that's currently very hard to do, because tencent doesn't give you (unencrypted) access to the SQL database that contains your messages, even if you use the backup functionality in the later versions of the software.
you CAN permanently backup your messages by copying the database from your phone's flash-memory (probably needs a rooted phone). but you can't access your data due to the encryption.
someone needs to write a 3rd party app that cracks the encryption (which is easy for a geek on the know, as the encryption key is based on some device iD string on your phone). then you could actually see your messages and manage them. probably some chinaman already wrote this app, we just don't know of it.
but message history does NOT get lost on re-install (at least for me) if you install over the old install, not from scratch. or, if you've backed up your messages using the apps function for that, you can restore them from their server.
but over time weixin will destroy any device it's on as the database size and image files number grow too big for your portable gadget to handle. no real housecleaning functions are available.
I miss in wechat 1 feature. Restore of mobile chat log TO windows wechat version.
We can restore mobile chat history to new mobile but WE CAN'T restore mobile chat history to windows wechat program, or can we?
It would be cool to be able to browse my mobile wechat chat history on windows pc. As it is now, my archive is empty, lacking past conversations.
And mobile scrolling to past conversations with certain people is troublesome. It has no proper archive oh right so mb an archive in mobile too?!
Hi all
Would you please help me to unblock my wechat account?
Many thanks in advance
I need old wechat user. At least 6 months account old.
Just send me confirmation
Pleasssssssssssss
arch.fadi said:
I need old wechat user. At least 6 months account old. Pleasssssssssssss
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if i understand correctly, you want to piggybag onto an account someone else created. likely not available, even if the other user wanted to sell his/her account, as they in most cases require real-person verification these days.
but you might try to buy an account in taobao, usually everything is available there.
Thanks for your response..
No my brother... I need "friend help login"
It's option of wechat settings.
Would you please see the link below
If you have wechat account it just took one minute
Please help me if you can
https://chinahelp4u.com/how-to-unblock-wechat-account?/
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zdoe said:
if i understand correctly, you want to piggybag onto an account someone else created. likely not available, even if the other user wanted to sell his/her account, as they in most cases require real-person verification these days.
but you might try to buy an account in taobao, usually everything is available there.
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Whatsapp data backup with 1 year storage capability

I need a software which can provide the following services:
1. Store backup data of at least past 1 year of whatsapp.
2. Formatting of entire whatapp in a couple of minutes on my phone Samsung Galaxy Note 4
3. Better usage of sending messages without any freezing issue.
If any 1 can provide me these 3 options in a software I would be really grateful and I am even ready to make the payment if some 1 has already made any software as such and I can purchase it after seeing. Note: I don't want to root my phone. I want to use this software without rooting my phone. So suggest me only if it doesn't need rooting
WhatsApp users on Android will soon be able to backup their messages, images and videos on Google Drive. This feature was in testing for months and was only available on certain WhatsApp versions. Just yesterday, Google announced the integration of WhatsApp with its cloud storage service on Google Drive Blog.
I had a moment of doubt whether I'm on the wrong page of the forum when reading OP and the above reply. Not sure if it differs from country to country, but Google Drive backup for Whatsapp has been available for over a year, and as far as I've noticed, it does not occupy your default Google Drive storage capacities and does not have a said limit for media files. For messages, Whatsapp backups always contain the entirety of your message history, no matter since how many years ago. They exist both on your local backup (/sdcard/WhatsApp/Databases) and Google Drive backup, if enabled.
As suggested by @damponting44, there was a Google Drive Blog post about it, but instead of yesterday, it was posted on October 7 2015.
To "format" Whatsapp, I assume you mean clearing of data completely. You can already accomplish this on Android and an app is unnecessary.
To reset the app's data, go to the Settings app of your phone -> Apps menu -> Find Whatsapp -> Press Clear Data and confirm.
To clear other data such as voice, media and local backups, use a File Manager and delete the entire /Whatsapp/ folder.
Lag or freezing issues rely on the app itself and the capabilities of your phone. Using one app over another usually only results in increased resource usage and would not solve the mentioned problem. That usage scenario is often only selected for feature / customisation enhancements, such as bots or themes. It's best to check if you have issues in your system, if there are too many background apps occupying RAM, etc. to make your foreground app, i.e. Whatsapp run smoother.
An app is unnecessary for all 3 requests you brought up, and it is unlikely one would be developed for those purposes.

Transfer WhatsApp Chat from Android to ios?

There is no way I've found that works without spending 20$ for a software. Please tell me there's a free and easy way to do this
all i can tell you from my recent experience is this seems impossible. The stupid ios doe not allow you to pull from any other place then android cloud, and the stupid android version can only pull from google cloud
the special softwares seem unable to this properly either, i tried and only got partial contacts and conversations
at the end i got tired of wasting time and money and went ahead with clean slate, as this seems to be done on purpose just to make the users slaves to the chosen system
what you can do on android at least is to export the chats to text, so it does not get totally lost
I think you could backup your chats. Go to Whatsapp>Settings>Chats>Chat Backup. Then when you sign in whatsapp on your iphone, you’ll get the option to restore backup.This might be worth a try. Hope this helps.
This is so stupid from WhatsApp. Apps like Telegram and Messenger have a way to store the chat in their servers and you can add whatever device you like. However, WhatsApp only works through iCloud storage or Google drive!! So its basically separated from Android to IOS or the opposite
You can try WhatsApp Backup to help you transfer whatsapp chat from Android to iOS like below:
Step 1: On your Android phone, go to: Settings > Chats > Chat backup > Backup to Google Drive > Backup.
Step 2: Once the backup is complete, you can back to: Settings > Chat settings > Backup conversations to check last backup. Then, Uninstall WhatsApp application from your Android phone.
Step 3: Download and install WhatsApp on your iPhone, and sign in with the same WhatsApp account on your iPhone.
Step 4: Choose Restore when a pop-up window reads "Message Backup Found".
Step 5: Wait until all backup messages of WhatsApp move from Android to iPhone.
Hope this will be your help.
nazhai said:
You can try WhatsApp Backup to help you transfer whatsapp chat from Android to iOS like below:
Step 1: On your Android phone, go to: Settings > Chats > Chat backup > Backup to Google Drive > Backup.
Step 2: Once the backup is complete, you can back to: Settings > Chat settings > Backup conversations to check last backup. Then, Uninstall WhatsApp application from your Android phone.
Step 3: Download and install WhatsApp on your iPhone, and sign in with the same WhatsApp account on your iPhone.
Step 4: Choose Restore when a pop-up window reads "Message Backup Found".
Step 5: Wait until all backup messages of WhatsApp move from Android to iPhone.
Hope this will be your help.
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This only works between android phones. It does not work between android and IPhone
It is still frustrating as hell. I wish there was a way to just manually replace the folder on IPhone storage
ItsYeBoi2016 said:
There is no way I've found that works without spending 20$ for a software. Please tell me there's a free and easy way to do this
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You can directly download WhatsApp on your iOS device and signing with your old Whatsapp number. It's simple.
kellystams said:
You can directly download WhatsApp on your iOS device and signing with your old Whatsapp number. It's simple.
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Unfortunately, you are correct. People posting here are promoting paid software
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So you are saying you can't transfer from IOS to Android but you CAN transfer from Android to IOS? - how (without paid app)?
Why do you comment if you don't have any clue about the topic? It takes a really time to read all tose bs. FYI:
1. WhatsApp Android backs up data ONLY to -> Google Drive (and restores backup ONLY from Google Drive)
2. WhatsApp iOS backs up data ONLY to -> iCloud (and restores backup ONLY from iCloud)
3. There are no other options to do this unnecessary/excessive Backup-Restore in WhatsApp other than points above.
4. There is no connection between iCloud and Google Drive in regards to switching backups..
5. Some crooks in WhatsApp are connected to paid software companies (corruption) and more than 6 years they delay this development, it stuck somewhere.
6. All those paid software have the same business process and similar prices.
7. There is only free way until now (except paid software) - it is a small app "Move to iOS:, which is introduced just recently. But it requires to factory reset iPhone before transferring data.
Anar4 said:
Why do you comment if you don't have any clue about the topic? It takes a really time to read all tose bs. FYI dummies:
1. WhatsApp Android backs up data ONLY to -> Google Drive (and restores backup ONLY from Google Drive)
2. WhatsApp iOS backs up data ONLY to -> iCloud (and restores backup ONLY from iCloud)
3. There are no other options to do this Backup-Restore in WhatsApp other than points above.
4. There is no connection between iCloud and Google Drive in regards to switching backups..
5. Some crooks in WhatsApp are connected to paid software companies (corruption) and more than 6 years they delay this development, it stuck somewhere.
6. All those paid software have the same business process and similar prices.
7. There is only free way until now (except paid software) - it is a small app "Move to iOS:, which is introduced just recently. But it requires to factory reset iPhone before transferring data.
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You are wrong.
WhatsApp now officially supports cross-platform chat transfers between iOS and Android
You no longer have to leave WhatsApp chats behind when switching ecosystems. WhatsApp had been testing transferring chat history between Android and iOS...
www.gsmarena.com
How to migrate your WhatsApp data from Android to iPhone | WhatsApp Help Center
faq.whatsapp.com
Dayuser said:
You are wrong.
WhatsApp now officially supports cross-platform chat transfers between iOS and Android
You no longer have to leave WhatsApp chats behind when switching ecosystems. WhatsApp had been testing transferring chat history between Android and iOS...
www.gsmarena.com
How to migrate your WhatsApp data from Android to iPhone | WhatsApp Help Center
faq.whatsapp.com
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Did you read those articles? Just please read and be sure before writing anything. Waiting for your apologizes.
Anar4 said:
Waiting for your apologizes.
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I'm not gonna apologise anything but maybe i misunderstand something here.
Anar4 said:
Did you read those articles? Just please read and be sure before writing anything. Waiting for your apologizes.
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I did, and it seems to suggest that the site does now support importing of messages between the iOS and Android versions of the software. I don't believe that Dayuser needs to apologize (I assume that this is what you meant instead of "apologizes," which doesn't make any sense in this context, and certainly doesn't help your credibility) for pointing out your inaccuracy.
Anar4 said:
Why do you comment if you don't have any clue about the topic? It takes a really time to read all tose bs. FYI dummies:
1. WhatsApp Android backs up data ONLY to -> Google Drive (and restores backup ONLY from Google Drive)
2. WhatsApp iOS backs up data ONLY to -> iCloud (and restores backup ONLY from iCloud)
3. There are no other options to do this Backup-Restore in WhatsApp other than points above.
4. There is no connection between iCloud and Google Drive in regards to switching backups..
5. Some crooks in WhatsApp are connected to paid software companies (corruption) and more than 6 years they delay this development, it stuck somewhere.
6. All those paid software have the same business process and similar prices.
7. There is only free way until now (except paid software) - it is a small app "Move to iOS:, which is introduced just recently. But it requires to factory reset iPhone before transferring data.
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Let's try to avoid the name-calling, going forward.

Running multiple instances of whatsapp and backing them up

Hello all. I currently use a POCO F2 Pro, which has the cloning feature allowing me to run two instances of whatsapp at the same time (two different phone numbers) and backing them up to two different google drives.
Now I just bought a Nubia Redmagic 8 PRO that, to my disbelief, does NOT feature a cloning app. I know there are several alternatives (parallel spaces, app cloner, dual space...) but as far as I know none of these allow to use GPlay services and hence the backup option is not available.
Do you have any hints on how I could do to pass my old data from the secondary WhatsApp to my new phone? And, in general, how will I be able to cloud backup data from it?
Thanks in advance.
Look inside here:
How to Run Multiple WhatsApp Accounts on Android Without Rooting
Like to run multiple WhatsApp accounts on Android without rooting your smartphone — then here is the two easiest way to do it. As we all know Android would not allow us to install and run multiple parallel accounts for WhatsApp and Facebook or other social & game accounts and keep online...
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Thank you, the WA business seems to do the trick.

Quota and Functionality Questions related to Device Backup

I am confused about inconsistences between Device Backup on two different Pixel phones:
On my old Pixel phone, the Backup app says the backup will use Google One storage, so I do not have it turned on.
On my new Pixel phone, the Backup app doesn't mention Google One. In fact, it explicitly states that the device backup will not count towards "Drive" storage.
I'm not sure the new Pixel phone is fully patched (just took it out of the box) so it's possible the software hasn't been updated to reflect the Google One service.
I have the following questions:
Does the device backup count towards a Google storage quota or not?
Is there a difference between Google One and Google Drive?
On both devices, the device backup states that the information is encrypted before being uploaded, but it is not clear whether the backup is inaccessible by Google (can Google decrypt the backup)?
The device backup states that it will backup: apps, app data, call history, contacts, device settings (including Wifi passwords) and SMS & MMS messages. How do I restore these things on the new phone if I back them up on the old phone first?
Can I selectively restore apps and app data for only a few apps? There are some apps that are device-specific (e.g. Syncthing) where I don't want to necessarily restore the settings and app data associated with that app, because my shared folders will be located in a different place on the new phone. I would rather set up from scratch and establish my new folder locations, then allow the files to sync through Syncthing.
Thanks for any answers you can provide to these questions.
I would also welcome links to resources that explain how this works, especially vis-à-vis the new Google One branding.
With regards to "Is there a difference between Google One and Google Drive?" look inside here

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