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Is the ability to manage app-specific privacy permissions--you can turn off an app's ability to query your location. I hate seeing the GPS reticle kick on when I open Facebook, but I don't have any choice but to agree to the permissions when I download the app. I know pdroid works, but this shoud be OS-level.
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Is the ability to manage app-specific privacy permissions--you can turn off an app's ability to query your location. I hate seeing the GPS reticle kick on when I open Facebook, but I don't have any choice but to agree to the permissions when I download the app. I know pdroid works, but this shoud be OS-level.
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you could disable location settings in all the apps you dont want to have location used in? unless im misunderstanding you?
i do taht with all my apps including facebook.
the only time my GPS is turned on is for when i use navigation.
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ddurandSGS3 said:
you could disable location settings in all the apps you dont want to have location used in? unless im misunderstanding you?
i do taht with all my apps including facebook.
the only time my GPS is turned on is for when i use navigation.
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Unless I've fundamentally missed some aspect of Android, if you grant an app permission to use your location when you install it, there is no way subsequently to prevent it from using your location without turning off location access entirely. iOS allows you to install an app that wants to use your location, but then deny it access.
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Unless I've fundamentally missed some aspect of Android, if you grant an app permission to use your location when you install it, there is no way subsequently to prevent it from using your location without turning off location access entirely. iOS allows you to install an app that wants to use your location, but then deny it access.
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it mightve read that way, but i wasnt being condescending or anything. I hope you didnt take it that way!
was just saying, i dont have GPS turn on for any app that I use except for navigation. I turn it off in settings and in the apps when requested or when i see it in settings.
does it still track in that case? I never see the icon.
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Is the ability to manage app-specific privacy permissions--you can turn off an app's ability to query your location. I hate seeing the GPS reticle kick on when I open Facebook, but I don't have any choice but to agree to the permissions when I download the app. I know pdroid works, but this shoud be OS-level.
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Install a ROM with PDroid
tekhna said:
Is the ability to manage app-specific privacy permissions--you can turn off an app's ability to query your location. I hate seeing the GPS reticle kick on when I open Facebook, but I don't have any choice but to agree to the permissions when I download the app. I know pdroid works, but this shoud be OS-level.
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Pdroid.... Get synergy..
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Did people just miss the part where I said pdroid is cool and all, but it should be integrated into the OS?
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Did people just miss the part where I said pdroid is cool and all, but it should be integrated into the OS?
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I'd doesn't matter what you have installed on android or iOS. Your location is always being tracked by WiFi or you data coverage. Unless you have your phone in airplane mode or turned off you will never have true privacy.
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Did people just miss the part where I said pdroid is cool and all, but it should be integrated into the OS?
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pdroid is not just an app. it has to be integrated into the actual framework of the os. therefore I don't understand how it didn't fulfill your request.
corbn89 said:
pdroid is not just an app. it has to be integrated into the actual framework of the os. therefore I don't understand how it didn't fulfill your request.
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What he is saying is the he should not have to root and install a custom ROM with pdroid to be able to do this. His point was that it should be built in to STOCK android.
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What he is saying is the he should not have to root and install a custom ROM with pdroid to be able to do this. His point was that it should be built in to STOCK android.
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ah I see. that case is unlikely then. Google is pretty much king at mining data for advertising profit and I don't think they would do anything to restrict that unless forced by law.
also, unless you have a nexus phone, every " stock" android is actually already a custom Rom created by the phone manufacturer. some manufacturers make it harder to install privacy protection measures than others. that's unfortunately one of the downsides of open source.
Miui let's you handle each app independently... there is also a mod to I stall the LBE guard instead of supersu on any ROM and you can monitor each app independently. Search for the MIUI superuser app
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Why do you not have this posted in Q&A.
I would assume you could find answers there instead of just complaining about it here.
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Hi guys
I recently purchased a Elephone S3 from Everbuying.com. I heard people talking about how notorious these Chinese phones are having malware installed on them, so I decided to give the malware check a go and use about 10+ popular Malware detection apps (Avast, Kaspersky, Avira, Trojan Killer, you name it) currently available on Play Store.
Out of all those, excluding warnings that doesn't really matter in this regards (Malware specific), the below two apps gave me those respective warning results.
I have done some research, but i don't think I found any relevant info in this regards. So, for all the guru out there, the question is obvious, should I be worried about these "non-deletable" apps (if not rooted)? If they ARE malicious, can I be worried free by turning off ALL permissions for the apps and in some case, disable the app (I can disable the Beauty Center, not ELE Launcher).
Thanks to you all for any input!
Malwarebytes Anti-Malware
App - Beauty Center
Message - Android/PUP.Riskware.Cooee.a
App - ELE Launcher
Message - Android/PUP.Riskware.Cooee.H
Stubborn Trojan Killer
App - Beauty Center
Message - General Trojan
App - ELE Launcher
Message - General Trojan
bagachin said:
Hi guys
I recently purchased a Elephone S3 from Everbuying.com. I heard people talking about how notorious these Chinese phones are having malware installed on them, so I decided to give the malware check a go and use about 10+ popular Malware detection apps (Avast, Kaspersky, Avira, Trojan Killer, you name it) currently available on Play Store.
Out of all those, excluding warnings that doesn't really matter in this regards (Malware specific), the below two apps gave me those respective warning results.
I have done some research, but i don't think I found any relevant info in this regards. So, for all the guru out there, the question is obvious, should I be worried about these "non-deletable" apps (if not rooted)? If they ARE malicious, can I be worried free by turning off ALL permissions for the apps and in some case, disable the app (I can disable the Beauty Center, not ELE Launcher).
Thanks to you all for any input!
Malwarebytes Anti-Malware
App - Beauty Center
Message - Android/PUP.Riskware.Cooee.a
App - ELE Launcher
Message - Android/PUP.Riskware.Cooee.H
Stubborn Trojan Killer
App - Beauty Center
Message - General Trojan
App - ELE Launcher
Message - General Trojan
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go ahead and disable Beauty Center, as far as ELE Launcher, that seems legit. But if you don't like it, just replace it with something like Nova Launcher.
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go ahead and disable Beauty Center, as far as ELE Launcher, that seems legit. But if you don't like it, just replace it with something like Nova Launcher.
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Hi mattzeller, thanks heaps for the info! This might not be a good question, but just for my information, generally speaking, is there a way to distinguish between a real harmful malware (actively stealing personal info) and an app that has more access and integration to the phone's OS than others by looking at the information provided? In other words, is there any obvious give away sign?
Thanks again for the help!
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Hi mattzeller, thanks heaps for the info! This might not be a good question, but just for my information, generally speaking, is there a way to distinguish between a real harmful malware (actively stealing personal info) and an app that has more access and integration to the phone's OS than others by looking at the information provided? In other words, is there any obvious give away sign?
Thanks again for the help!
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Well look at reviews of the app, see if it is installing other apps without your consent, or constantly nagging you to download other apps. Generally 99.99% of apps on Google play are safe. Occasionally some crapware gets on there, but if you take a look at its rating and reviews (not just the highlights) you should be good.
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Hi mattzeller, thanks heaps for the info! This might not be a good question, but just for my information, generally speaking, is there a way to distinguish between a real harmful malware (actively stealing personal info) and an app that has more access and integration to the phone's OS than others by looking at the information provided? In other words, is there any obvious give away sign?
Thanks again for the help!
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Always check the apps permissions. I absolutely refuse to install an app that has permissions that it shouldn't be using. However, if the app you're about to download needs permissions related to the app features, that's OK with me.
I see so many Play Store apps that are just total spyware in my book. Flashlight apps are a good example of this. There is zero reasons a flashlight app needs to read my contacts or a data connection. Just be mindful of reviews and permissions and you'll be OK.
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Always check the apps permissions. I absolutely refuse to install an app that has permissions that it shouldn't be using. However, if the app you're about to download needs permissions related to the app features, that's OK with me.
I see so many Play Store apps that are just total spyware in my book. Flashlight apps are a good example of this. There is zero reasons a flashlight app needs to read my contacts or a data connection. Just be mindful of reviews and permissions and you'll be OK.
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I don't worry about apps with excessive permissions, I just revoke the permissions I don't like.
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I don't worry about apps with excessive permissions, I just revoke the permissions I don't like.
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That's the best way to do it.
I do the same thing, but I see lots of people posting here that aren't too tech savvy. For them be mindful of what you download.
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Well look at reviews of the app, see if it is installing other apps without your consent, or constantly nagging you to download other apps. Generally 99.99% of apps on Google play are safe. Occasionally some crapware gets on there, but if you take a look at its rating and reviews (not just the highlights) you should be good.
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Thanks for the advice. Yes, I am aware that common source/cause of malwares are side load apps and rooted device. So I am always fairly cautious about any apps i installed via non-play store source. However, these two caught apk are installed right out of box. That kinda annoys me. I don't jump on the bandwagon and say Chinese phones are infested with malwares and I believe a lot of the time people just over exaggerate and blow some minority out of proportion.
However, the truth is, this is the first Chinese phone I got and it came with two identified malwares. To be fair, it might not be particularly malicious, but it's enough to make me have second thought about my purchase....
KernelCorn said:
Always check the apps permissions. I absolutely refuse to install an app that has permissions that it shouldn't be using. However, if the app you're about to download needs permissions related to the app features, that's OK with me.
I see so many Play Store apps that are just total spyware in my book. Flashlight apps are a good example of this. There is zero reasons a flashlight app needs to read my contacts or a data connection. Just be mindful of reviews and permissions and you'll be OK.
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Thanks for the comment! Yes, I am quite careful about the app I get to choose to install, but I have little control over these apps that come pre-installed on these chinese phone and got detected as "malwares"
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I don't worry about apps with excessive permissions, I just revoke the permissions I don't like.
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Yap, what I did for those two apps I mentioned are turning off all permissions access to them, disable app for the one I can and turn off background data access. Hopefully it will freeze them for good and stop them from playing naughty.
Just a question though, say I do all those above (e.g. switching off permission, force stopped etc), technically speaking, can a malware still be "active and do what they "meant" to do"? I meant after all, they are meant to do something "out of control" right?
bagachin said:
Yap, what I did for those two apps I mentioned are turning off all permissions access to them, disable app for the one I can and turn off background data access. Hopefully it will freeze them for good and stop them from playing naughty.
Just a question though, say I do all those above (e.g. switching off permission, force stopped etc), technically speaking, can a malware still be "active and do what they "meant" to do"? I meant after all, they are meant to do something "out of control" right?
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No, if you revoke the permission to view your contacts, it is the system that is blocking the apps ability to view your contacts.
Though I think you are being a little paranoid.
Everyone freaks out out all the permissions apps require, when the app actually never uses most of the permissions it asks for, at least not in the way you think. You wouldn't think the launcher needs permissions to access your contacts, but it does. How else is it going to allow you to make a call, or display an incoming all, or missed call/text badges.
I mean take a look at the litany of permissions Nova Launcher and TeslaUnread require, yet we all know the app is not malware. As long as you install from legitimate sources, you will be fine. Like I said in my first post, disable the Beauty app, the other is the Launcher. If you don't like it, install a different one.
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Who would you rather have snoop in on your calls? China, or USA.. Because it is one or the other.. me personally, I will take the country in which I do not reside...
mattzeller said:
No, if you revoke the permission to view your contacts, it is the system that is blocking the apps ability to view your contacts.
Though I think you are being a little paranoid.
Everyone freaks out out all the permissions apps require, when the app actually never uses most of the permissions it asks for, at least not in the way you think. You wouldn't think the launcher needs permissions to access your contacts, but it does. How else is it going to allow you to make a call, or display an incoming all, or missed call/text badges.
I mean take a look at the litany of permissions Nova Launcher and TeslaUnread require, yet we all know the app is not malware. As long as you install from legitimate sources, you will be fine. Like I said in my first post, disable the Beauty app, the other is the Launcher. If you don't like it, install a different one.
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Unfortunately the way things are with the permissive Android system, we have to be a little paranoid. The built in system apps like launchers and permissions can't be disabled easily unless the user is technical enough to know about rooting using apps like xposed/xprivacy.
Few hours ago @explainAndroid posted article on xda main page onto how to use android's hidden RUN_IN_BACKGROUND permission to restrict app's background behavior. I made an app for that.
Here's link to original article: https://www.xda-developers.com/freeze-app-background-processes-without-root-android-nougat/
Here's link to app's github: https://github.com/MrBIMC/RunInBackgroundPermissionSetter
Here's link to reddit thread about app: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/co...en_run_in_background/?st=j570s1rf&sh=675cc4d6
Here's link to xda labs: https://labs.xda-developers.com/store/app/com.pavelsikun.runinbackgroundpermissionsetter
Omg it created multiple threads. Sorry. Trying to remove duplicates now.
Submit this to XDA Labs as well! Don't worry about a crappy icon or whatever. I've made apps in Tasker and have posted them to Labs hehe. As long as people find it useful feel free to submit!
@MrBIMC
Thanks for the app!!
Is possible add hours of the days of week when selected apps run or doent run in background?
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Nice app!
Will charging disable this?
Can u make the app work without rooting, just using adb, where the permission through adb for this app is granted once and then it can be used to limit background permission of other apps
excellent mate.
we should post a tutorial... not everyone will understand the potential ramifications of disabling everything
I will try to test this out! Though, I kinda like the old icon compared to the new one, it seems like it's not properly cropped. Additionally, could you add an option to show system and user apps only? Maybe a toggle to ignore apps all at once or vice versa too?
No chance for Marshmallow?
Does this have the same functionality as in lineage os ROMs app ops where you can disable background processes?
As someone is undoubtedly going to ask it, I'll ask it for them. How does this differentiate to apps like greenify @MrBIMC? Do they both limit background processes? Anyways, the all looks very interesting, thanks!
This looks great!
Do the settings stick after reboot?
arjuntsgowda said:
Can u make the app work without rooting, just using adb, where the permission through adb for this app is granted once and then it can be used to limit background permission of other apps
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No.
From the Github page:
Anyway, this app is for those who don't want to mess with adb shell and input commands manually and prefer to just click on app name to enable/disable it from running in the background. Sadly, android apps are not allowed to implicitly edit permissions of other apps, so this application requires root to overcome it.
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Al Gore said:
No chance for Marshmallow?
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No.
From the Github page:
Anyway, this app is for those, who don't want to mess with adb shell and input commands manually and prefer to just click on app name to enable/disable it from running in the background. Sadly, android apps are not allowed to implicitely edit permissions of other apps, so this application requires root to overcome it.
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jordirpz said:
@MrBIMC
Thanks for the app!!
Is possible add hours of the days of week when selected apps run or doent run in background?
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This would be really cool. Best way to implement that I think would be to add Tasker plugin functionality to the app to allow Tasker flows to toggle the permission, which would have the benefit of being able to change it for any reason (such as low battery).
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As someone is undoubtedly going to ask it, I'll ask it for them. How does this differentiate to apps like greenify @MrBIMC? Do they both limit background processes? Anyways, the all looks very interesting, thanks!
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If I understand both correctly... Greenify forces apps to hibernate when you turn your screen off (or manually tell it to), but the app can still wake itself back up for a variety of reasons, such as receiving push notifications, location updates, or any other unnecessary reason like Facebook, lol. This app overrides a hidden permission in Android 7+ that tells the system to not allow the app to run in the background, which means it will not be able to wake itself up.
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Does this have the same functionality as in lineage os ROMs app ops where you can disable background processes?
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according to the reddit comments its the same. but maybe the Developer can confirm this
xdauser7 said:
according to the reddit comments its the same. but maybe the Developer can confirm this
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Am Developer. Can confirm, toggle "limit background activity" in LOS14 is the same as this app. At least that's what reddit tells me as I haven't checked myself.
Wow. Looks promising. I was too lazy to run ADB manually xD
So lets see if I can screw something up with disabling almost everything
MishaalRahman said:
Submit this to XDA Labs as well! Don't worry about a crappy icon or whatever. I've made apps in Tasker and have posted them to Labs hehe. As long as people find it useful feel free to submit!
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Ditto
neonixxx said:
This would be really cool. Best way to implement that I think would be to add Tasker plugin functionality to the app to allow Tasker flows to toggle the permission, which would have the benefit of being able to change it for any reason (such as low battery).
If I understand both correctly... Greenify forces apps to hibernate when you turn your screen off (or manually tell it to), but the app can still wake itself back up for a variety of reasons, such as receiving push notifications, location updates, or any other unnecessary reason like Facebook, lol. This app overrides a hidden permission in Android 7+ that tells the system to not allow the app to run in the background, which means it will not be able to wake itself up.
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thanks, makes sense about Greenify... do you or anyone know the difference between this and Brevent?
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thanks, makes sense about Greenify... do you or anyone know the difference between this and Brevent?
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I actually tried Brevent for the first time a few weeks ago. According to the app itself, aside from not requiring root, it's supposed to monitor when you hit the back button or remove an app from recents, and then actually kill the app process when you do, despite if the app has some background process that it intended to keep running. Basically lets you manually control when an app is killed in a quick and intuitive way, but for me personally, it didn't seem to work as expected for some reason; background processes seemed to keep running after.
Also Brevent, being a non-root solution requires you to connect the device to a PC and run some ADB commands to give it permission every time you reboot. It has an experimental root mode that doesn't require this.
Hi, I've got root and xposed installed.
And already have installed amplify, greenify, no wakelock and bootstart manager.
But none of these was able to block an app from auto starting when phone is on.
Yea, it kills the app when you click on the greenifys shortcut, but I dont refer to that, I want an app which can disable the autorun service of the app.
Can anyone introduce a way or an app for that?
Thanks.
Aaazv said:
Hi, I've got root and xposed installed.
And already have installed amplify, greenify, no wakelock and bootstart manager.
But none of these was able to block an app from auto starting when phone is on.
Yea, it kills the app when you click on the greenifys shortcut, but I dont refer to that, I want an app which can disable the autorun service of the app.
Can anyone introduce a way or an app for that?
Thanks.
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You mean an app like autostarts? Which alters the criteria to said apps??
Used to use it years ago but it's still available..
Not a task manager but an actual app that manages changes.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts
Not free but definitely worth a £1
Hope this helps..
dladz said:
You mean an app like autostarts? Which alters the criteria to said apps??
Used to use it years ago but it's still available..
Not a task manager but an actual app that manages changes.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts
Not free but definitely worth a £1
Hope this helps..
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Thanks.
I think its what I needed, but its not asking for root so it wont work
Any orher app to share with me?
thanks
Aaazv said:
Thanks.
I think its what I needed, but its not asking for root so it wont work
Any orher app to share with me?
thanks
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Really??
Perhaps this may help then
https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/209327/disable-autostart-on-boot
Gutted about autostarts man that was a sick app.
How do I disable a system app, please? For example, on my previous phone, an Xperia Z2 running Android 6.01, it was a simple case of going into settings, apps, selecting the app (such as the default SMS Texting app, which couldn't be uninstalled) and then there was a button to disable it.
Why disable it? I prefer to use Textra, Disabling an app that can't be installed usually has the benefit of stopping the app from running in the background, removing its updates, and therefore releasing resources and salvaging some space from an app you weren't going to use. But, I can't see a way of doing this on my Poco X3.
Thanks for considering my question.
The following thread may contain an answer to your question, check it out.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=4169497
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BigClaw said:
How do I disable a system app, please? For example, on my previous phone, an Xperia Z2 running Android 6.01, it was a simple case of going into settings, apps, selecting the app (such as the default SMS Texting app, which couldn't be uninstalled) and then there was a button to disable it.
Why disable it? I prefer to use Textra, Disabling an app that can't be installed usually has the benefit of stopping the app from running in the background, removing its updates, and therefore releasing resources and salvaging some space from an app you weren't going to use. But, I can't see a way of doing this on my Poco X3.
Thanks for considering my question.
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This is most easiest way to remove bloatwares on MIUI, find full details at here: https://technolobe.com/2020/08/17/how-to-remove-bloatware-from-any-xiaomi-device/
Their YouTube channel: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fTEcyu2IH54
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