decent backup method? - General Questions and Answers

I've been using swift backup for the last 5 years or so and I'm damn tired of making the backup, coping it to my pc, do whatever I have to do on my phone, set up my gaccount back, install swift, login, copy the backup back and wait to restore it.
I just want a tool that allows me to connect my phone to my pc via USB, launch it and get my backup directly on my pc ready for restoring it in a second moment on my phone without waste of time or stupid accounts and stuff
I don't mind if it's via ADB, fastboot or whatever, I just want something simple that does just that and that is able to backup everything, all apps+ data
I know that ADB has a backup command, but that isn't able to backup all the apps and that's a big no for me
ps I'm a root user and I run Linux on my pc if those infos are helpful
am I asking too much maybe?
thank for your help!

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Backup android app, data included, no root needed, with adb
Backup android app, data included, no root needed, with adb - android-backup-apk-and-datas.md
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jwoegerbauer said:
Look inside here:
Backup android app, data included, no root needed, with adb
Backup android app, data included, no root needed, with adb - android-backup-apk-and-datas.md
gist.github.com
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I already expressed this is not a viable solution for me in my previous message.
tdjj said:
I know that ADB has a backup command, but that isn't able to backup all the apps and that's a big no for me
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most of the apps I use aren't compatible with ADB backup, I need something that's able to backup all the apps I want like I do on swift, but directly on my pc.

Your have root, why not use TWRP backup and restore.

tdjj said:
most of the apps I use aren't compatible with ADB backup
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Never have read or heard that.

sammiev said:
Your have root, why not use TWRP backup and restore.
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can I get a copy of it straight on my pc instead of my phone on twrp?

jwoegerbauer said:
Never have read or heard that.
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yeah, there is a flag for that in the androidmanifest.xml
you can check

AFAIK since Android 6 the flag allowBackup by default is always set to true, unless app's developer for whatever reason sets it to false.

jwoegerbauer said:
AFAIK since Android 6 the flag allowBackup by default is always set to true, unless app's developer for whatever reason sets it to false.
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that's why I said
tdjj said:
most of the apps I use aren't compatible with ADB backup, I need something that's able to backup all the apps.
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adb backup is not a viable solution in my case

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[Q] Backup before bootloader unlock?

I am going to unlock my bootloader sometime next week (and root after that ofc).
I already used my phone for several weeks thought, I got it fully configured to my taste.
1. What exactly gets deleted when I unlock my bootloader?
All apps + usersettings + smses etc? Also everything in /sdcard ?
2. What is the best way to backup all data?
I can backup /sdcard alright, but is there a non-root app for backing up all apps + settings?
Helium is a non-root app backup option. You have to pair it with the pc program, but it leaves the backups on the phone. I don't know about what gets wiped, though, I've not unlocked my bootloader.
Quark^2 said:
I am going to unlock my bootloader sometime next week (and root after that ofc).
I already used my phone for several weeks thought, I got it fully configured to my taste.
1. What exactly gets deleted when I unlock my bootloader?
All apps + usersettings + smses etc? Also everything in /sdcard ?
2. What is the best way to backup all data?
I can backup /sdcard alright, but is there a non-root app for backing up all apps + settings?
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In my case everything was erased when unlocked bootloader.
is there a software for makeng complete backup and then restoring automacic? possible to do this folder by folder? name of software that do this? thanks
myabc said:
is there a software for makeng complete backup and then restoring automacic? possible to do this folder by folder? name of software that do this? thanks
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SnapPea can backup your texts, images, etc. Get the app from store & download the pc programme. You can also backup to the cloud (I think) Good luck!
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There is a guide using ADB backup:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/guide-phone-backup-unlock-root-t1420351
Contrary to the guide, I didn't need an encryption password for it to work. I did however have to try it a few times before it would work (it stopped several times--failed), but got a backup eventually. It does reportedly work for the Moto G.
I haven't restored it yet though. I'm in the same boat as you are at the moment and I am preparing to unlock and root once I have all the help and supporting files for the process.
eastdata said:
There is a guide using ADB backup:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/guide-phone-backup-unlock-root-t1420351
Contrary to the guide, I didn't need an encryption password for it to work. I did however have to try it a few times before it would work (it stopped several times--failed), but got a backup eventually. It does reportedly work for the Moto G.
I haven't restored it yet though. I'm in the same boat as you are at the moment and I am preparing to unlock and root once I have all the help and supporting files for the process.
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For anyone that is interested, the Helium backup app mentioned in a previous post utilizes this same ADB backup protocol cited in the link above in order to accomplish the backup. Helium just automates the process and slaps on a nicer UI.
Marty said:
For anyone that is interested, the Helium backup app mentioned in a previous post utilizes this same ADB backup protocol cited in the link above in order to accomplish the backup. Helium just automates the process and slaps on a nicer UI.
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That's good to know, cheers.
Apparently SMS messages aren't backed up with ADB. I've looked around and found this free app MyPhoneExplorer that can handle that part amongst other features. Seems it can backup locally.
eastdata said:
Seems it can backup locally.
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Yes MyPhonexplorer makes a Backup on PC.
lightningdude said:
Helium is a non-root app backup option. You have to pair it with the pc program, but it leaves the backups on the phone.
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The Helium Backup is made on the phones storage. But sure you can copy that to your PC and copy it back afterwards.
Both apps are working nice without any problems.
mokkami said:
Yes MyPhonexplorer makes a Backup on PC.
The Helium Backup is made on the phones storage. Butsure you can copy that to your PC and copy it back afterwards.
Both apps are working nice without any problems.
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Excellent. Now to the tricky parts...
On a side note, with ADB I was able to write the backup straight to PC, but I think writing to the phones storage would be more reliable, then copying it off.
I did not encouter any problems while just simply copying files to storage.

Best backup app for non-rooted phones?

Looking for a good app that will backup the entire phone without root? What's all the US S7 users doing right now?
take backup with ADB
Code:
adb backup -all -apk -shared
and to restore
Code:
adb restore <path to the backup>
Don't forget to enable USB debugging on the phone
if you want is an application, i think no app that can backup user data.. because of permission denied.. but if you want to root it, i ever use titanium backup and it is good
numpea said:
take backup with ADB
Code:
adb backup -all -apk -shared
and to restore
Code:
adb restore <path to the backup>
Don't forget to enable USB debugging on the phone
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So this backs up all the programs? What about user data?
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seanvree said:
So this backs up all the programs? What about user data?
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this backs up = apps + data + shared (internal memory content)
it's not what you asked for because it's not an app but it does the job without root and that's the only way to do this without root
you need adb and the backup will be saved on your pc
numpea said:
take backup with ADB
Code:
adb backup -all -apk -shared
and to restore
Code:
adb restore <path to the backup>
Don't forget to enable USB debugging on the phone
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So this is basically a full image backup similar to what I would get with TWRP?
I recommend taking a look into helium.
It allows you to choose and backup apps and the appdata and transfer it to another device without root. There are a few system apps it won't backup, but it did wonders for me coming from my rooted N5 to this GS7.
DonDizzurp said:
So this is basically a full image backup similar to what I would get with TWRP?
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No it's not full image like what we get with TWRP it's a file "backup.ab" and you can choose what to backup this is a thread that explaines everything better :good:
numpea said:
No it's not full image like what we get with TWRP it's a file "backup.ab" and you can choose what to backup this is a thread that explaines everything better :good:
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I don't mean it's the SAME backup as TWRP in which I can use TWRP to restore.. but it backs up the entire image the same way TWRP or CWM does.
It's like I can use Norton Ghost or Clonezilla (like TWRP or CWM) or I can use dd on Linux (like ADB). They'd all (essentially) create an image of the entire drive, software, settings, partition table, MBR/GPT, etc etc just using different filetypes.
Anyway, thanks for the link. I'll read through it and it should answer my question hopefully.
DonDizzurp said:
I don't mean it's the SAME backup as TWRP in which I can use TWRP to restore.. but it backs up the entire image the same way TWRP or CWM does.
It's like I can use Norton Ghost or Clonezilla (like TWRP or CWM) or I can use dd on Linux (like ADB). They'd all (essentially) create an image of the entire drive, software, settings, partition table, MBR/GPT, etc etc just using different filetypes.
Anyway, thanks for the link. I'll read through it and it should answer my question hopefully.
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No it's not the same it doesn't backup the entire image of the drive just (apks of installed applications and there data) + (system apps data including settings) + (shared that includes all the internal storage) that's it not including even apk of system or system image entirely it doesn't backup boot and the other partitions
numpea said:
No it's not the same it doesn't backup the entire image of the drive just (apks of installed applications and there data) + (system apps data including settings) + (shared that includes all the internal storage) that's it not including even apk of system or system image entirely it doesn't backup boot and the other partitions
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Cool, thanks!
as well as someone above posted....HELIUM
And if you need something to backup your sms/mms and call logs try https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rerware.android.MyBackup&hl=en
ADB 0 byte backup file
I have some problem with ADB. It worked for me perfectly with my Galaxy S4 (5.0.1) but it doesn't with my Galaxy S7 (6.0).
I can restore my old .ab files what I created with my S4 but I can't do any backup file with my S7. Why is it so?
ADB find the phone, I have access. I tried with TotalCommander plugin and it is the same. Any idea?
seanvree said:
Looking for a good app that will backup the entire phone without root? What's all the US S7 users doing right now?
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Why dont you use Samsung's Smart Switch? It backups about everything and restores it too! It's easy to use. Just download the PC version
www.samsung.com/us/smart-switch/
and yes it works well, I used it twice for my s7 and Tab S2
ADB 0 byte backup file
I know this program. But this isn't save all of the data of the programs/games. I tried a lot of possibilty for example Titanium Backup, Helium etc. (with root) but these programs aren't the best. Look for example Traffic Racer, my son loves that game and these programs couldn't save the data of the game, I know that there is cloud saving in the game but I had an error (can't access in google play or something like that and couldn't save the game). But with ADB it saved perfectly like the other games/programs. I know a lot of program for this fact but I need fix ADB and figure out why is it don't work. I don't know why is it making 0 byte .ab files..
jetbruceli said:
Why dont you use Samsung's Smart Switch? It backups about everything and restores it too! It's easy to use. Just download the PC version
www.samsung.com/us/smart-switch/
and yes it works well, I used it twice for my s7 and Tab S2
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Did it backup ALL App data (logins, settings, etc)? I've used SmartSwitch to move from my S5 to S7e (3 times - trying 3 different firmware) and it NEVER moved over app data/settings, Wifi pw's, etc.
The only think it properly moved was sms, apps that were in Google Play (not side-loaded apps) and email/account logins.
numpea said:
take backup with ADB
Code:
adb backup -all -apk -shared
and to restore
Code:
adb restore <path to the backup>
Don't forget to enable USB debugging on the phone
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Hi!
So now I feel like a real n00b...
My G930F has lost all red color in the display. Calling Samsung, they say 'factory reset' then call again.
They said 'Smart Switch' was the tool to use for backup.
After a whole day trying to get the rickety, moronic abortion of a program to run more than 3 minutes...
I came here.
Enabled USB debugging.
Opened an elevated cmd in //AppData\Local\Android\sdk\platform-tools
and input 'adb backup -all -apk -shared'
I'm told to go to my phone and affirm this- I do.
Back at the PC I'm looking at a blinking cursor after //AppData\Local\Android\sdk\platform-tools

Possible to root without wiping OR reliable non-root device backup?

Does anyone know if this is possible? I've had my phone for a couple weeks and want to root but don't really want to reinstall and setup everything again. If not, can someone point me to a reliable non-root full backup option?
TIA!
no. oem unlock is needed first and that pre-step is the bad boy that does the wipe.
d3athsd00r said:
Does anyone know if this is possible? I've had my phone for a couple weeks and want to root but don't really want to reinstall and setup everything again. If not, can someone point me to a reliable non-root full backup option?
TIA!
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You should probably Google "TIA." Hehe.
d3athsd00r said:
Does anyone know if this is possible? I've had my phone for a couple weeks and want to root but don't really want to reinstall and setup everything again. If not, can someone point me to a reliable non-root full backup option?
TIA!
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Google is your backup option. It can restore settings, apps and data. Just restore from cloud. You need root to have a perfect backup.
mikex8593 said:
Google is your backup option. It can restore settings, apps and data. Just restore from cloud. You need root to have a perfect backup.
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You don't need to root you just need to have twrp installed.
se7ensde said:
You don't need to root you just need to have twrp installed.
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Well, to backup apps and data in the OS, like OP wants before unlocking bootloader.
I did this with titanium backup on my previous phone to go from non-root to root and worked like a charm.
I can't post a link to the url...anywhay search for titanium backup non-root and you will see how to make a backup that can later be restored with titanium.
1. How to make your first backup WITHOUT root:
Before beginning, you need to setup your ADB and have your device detected. You must also running Android version 4.0 and above. Also, make sure you have a file manager installed. Our favorite is the ES File Explorer.
Connect your device and make sure its listed with the following command:
adb devices
Run a FULL backup with the following command:
adb backup -f FullBackup.ab -apk -all
This will create a “package” called “FullBackup.ab” on the current location in your command prompt. This is your backup package.
Now you can root your phone.
Once finished rooting, insert the “FullBackup.ab” package on your sdcard
Hit the menu button and look for “Extract from ADB backup” option. This will prompt you to search for the file. Use the file manager that you installed earlier and navigate to the directory and select the FullBackup.ab file.
Now restore like as if the backup was made with Titanium Backup. Don’t forget to make a fresh copy of the backup using Titanium Backup. You’re Done!
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Question Root without phone resetting? Or backup app+it's data via adb or similar?

So I'm changing phones, but there's one app which I would have to backup including it's data. If I'd be rooted I could use Titanium Backup, unfortunately I'm not rooted.
Is there a way to root without wiping the phone or is there another way to backup the apps data (and restore) via adb or something else?
Google backup and restore is pretty good, it should restore your apps
beanbean50 said:
Google backup and restore is pretty good, it should restore your apps
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But I need the actual data of the app, does that come with Google backup and restore?
App in question is WhatsApp and I need the app including the registration etc on the new phone. Titanium backup can do that, but obviously needs root
Whatsapp has its own backup and restore feature I use it all the time. It will restore all your data, chats etc but you have to log in first
beanbean50 said:
Whatsapp has its own backup and restore feature I use it all the time. It will restore all your data, chats etc but you have to log in first
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I know... that's exactly the issue though. I'm asking for a way to backup 1:1 so I don't need to do the login. Which Titanium Backup can do since it's does it with all the apps data, but that obviously needs root which I don't have. Hence I'm asking for help here.
I found this which doesn't need root not sure how deep it goes though
How to fully backup and restore your Android device without root
One of Android’s little-known tricks is its built-in backup and restore process that allows users to save their private data...
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beanbean50 said:
I found this which doesn't need root not sure how deep it goes though
How to fully backup and restore your Android device without root
One of Android’s little-known tricks is its built-in backup and restore process that allows users to save their private data...
9to5google.com
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For that I'd need a way to remove everything from the backup besides WhatsApp though. As that does a backup and restore of everything, all apps, all file system etc IIRC
Trying adb backup now, there seems to be a java tool that allows you to open the backup file on pc
GitHub - nelenkov/android-backup-extractor: Android backup extractor
Android backup extractor. Contribute to nelenkov/android-backup-extractor development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com
M4-NOOB said:
For that I'd need a way to remove everything from the backup besides WhatsApp though. As that does a backup and restore of everything, all apps, all file system etc IIRC
Trying adb backup now, there seems to be a java tool that allows you to open the backup file on pc
GitHub - nelenkov/android-backup-extractor: Android backup extractor
Android backup extractor. Contribute to nelenkov/android-backup-extractor development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com
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Unfortunately WhatsApp wasn't included in the full backup for some reason
I just tried an app on play store called Swift Backup and it worked!
I made a backup of just whatsapp then deleted it and it restored it without signing in
beanbean50 said:
I just tried an app on play store called Swift Backup and it worked!
I made a backup of just whatsapp then deleted it and it restored it without signing in
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Is your phone rooted? Because all it does for me is apk backup, no data
hmm.. yep I'm rooted
why can't you sign in to whatsapp on your new phone
beanbean50 said:
hmm.. yep I'm rooted
why can't you sign in to whatsapp on your new phone
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I'm living in the UK for a few more months, but still use my German number on WhatsApp. The number has since been retired so I can't get SMS/calls on that one anymore, so I'm unable to sign in.
I wish I would've rooted the phone....
M4-NOOB said:
So I'm changing phones, but there's one app which I would have to backup including it's data. If I'd be rooted I could use Titanium Backup, unfortunately I'm not rooted.
Is there a way to root without wiping the phone or is there another way to backup the apps data (and restore) via adb or something else?
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tiennhu89 said:
Smart swich is proudly sponsors
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Is that the Samsung moving phones thingy? Does that move apps including it's data so you don't have to set them up again?
I usually avoid the moving data from phone to phone during setup, because I take setting up a new phone as an opportunity to clean up data/apps. So I only reinstall those I actually need
EDIT: Just tried it, sadly not:
https://imgur.com/gyCtmLs
M4-NOOB said:
Is that the Samsung moving phones thingy? Does that move apps including it's data so you don't have to set them up again?
I usually avoid the moving data from phone to phone during setup, because I take setting up a new phone as an opportunity to clean up data/apps. So I only reinstall those I actually need
EDIT: Just tried it, sadly not:
https://imgur.com/gyCtmLs
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Backup with ur whatsapp. Its too easy. Anyway, in case u cant do it, think u have to reset only single app (whatsapp - like ur screenshot), so u cant?
tiennhu89 said:
Backup with ur whatsapp. Its too easy. Anyway, in case u cant do it, think u have to reset only single app (whatsapp - like ur screenshot), so u cant?
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As mentioned in here, using the backup inside WhatsApp still needs you to sign in again on the new phone which isn't my goal. I want to backup ALL of WhatsApp including the sign in, so I can just move it to the new phone without logging in.
M4-NOOB said:
As mentioned in here, using the backup inside WhatsApp still needs you to sign in again on the new phone which isn't my goal. I want to backup ALL of WhatsApp including the sign in, so I can just move it to the new phone without logging in.
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Then u have 2 options:
1 - Root your phone.
2 - Ask dev of Whatsapp to do something for u (for all too.lol). But i think it'll never come true. Its too risky for any apps.
tiennhu89 said:
Then u have 2 options:
1 - Root your phone.
2 - Ask dev of Whatsapp to do something for u (for all too.lol). But i think it'll never come true. Its too risky for any apps.
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Yeah thanks, I know it's possible with root which I don't have and doing it wipes the phone which makes my whole reason for this pointless.
This whole post was just asking if there's any way to do it without root. If you can't help don't reply?

Full phone backup with ROOT access

I'm looking for an app that will allow me to back up the entire contents of my phone to one single .zip file which I could then flash back if needed. It would be best if there was an app that could transfer the backup to my computer where I would store the individual backups. I should add that I have root access, but even so, I haven't found any application that backs up the entire system to a single file. I don't have a custom recovery, only the stock one. Is there any app for that? Ideally for Windows, where I would connect the phone with a cable and perform the backup setup from there.
CaptainFedora said:
I'm looking for an app that will allow me to back up the entire contents of my phone to one single .zip file which I could then flash back if needed. It would be best if there was an app that could transfer the backup to my computer where I would store the individual backups. I should add that I have root access, but even so, I haven't found any application that backs up the entire system to a single file. I don't have a custom recovery, only the stock one. Is there any app for that? Ideally for Windows, where I would connect the phone with a cable and perform the backup setup from there.
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What are "the entire contents of your phone"? All partitions + personal data, apps and so on?
Oh yes, exactly. For a case like system update potentially messing up the device - (oh, I just realized that if my device would softbricked i would need to restore that image or zip file through the recovery anyway), so i guess without a custom recovery this isn't doable right?
CaptainFedora said:
Oh yes, exactly. For a case like system update potentially messing up the device - (oh, I just realized that if my device would softbricked i would need to restore that image or zip file through the recovery anyway), so i guess without a custom recovery this isn't doable right?
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As long as no custom ROM gets installed you only need a backup of your data. The remaining images are part of your firmware.
Without a custom recovery like TWRP you can backup your data only during the running system. Your stock recovery can't access /data as a filesystem, because it's not mounted. Also an entire image of that partition wouldn't be possible.
Now I learned something. Thank you. That'll do. Titanium Backup it is then.
CaptainFedora said:
Now I learned something. Thank you. That'll do. Titanium Backup it is then.
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Titanium Backup is outdated, I suggest NeoBackup (open source) or Swift Backup (closed source, you can't decrypt the backup on your own).
Thanks again!
TheNewHEROBRINE said:
Swift Backup (closed source, you can't decrypt the backup on your own).
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It doesn't make any sense to encrypt MY own data. Swift Backup gets access to the data by Magisk and that's me. I don't need an app that makes my own data inaccessible for me without any reason.
CaptainFedora said:
I'm looking for an app that will allow me to back up the entire contents of my phone to one single .zip file which I could then flash back if needed. It would be best if there was an app that could transfer the backup to my computer where I would store the individual backups. I should add that I have root access, but even so, I haven't found any application that backs up the entire system to a single file. I don't have a custom recovery, only the stock one. Is there any app for that? Ideally for Windows, where I would connect the phone with a cable and perform the backup setup from there.
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You can look at this thread for variants of backup software options.
Alternative to Titanium Backup?
Hey everyone, I've been using Titanium backup for a few weeks now but one thing irks me about it.. even though it successfully backs up my apps and I assume my data - when it comes to restoring the backup, it always re-installs the apps in a...
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WoKoschekk said:
It doesn't make any sense to encrypt MY own data. Swift Backup gets access to the data by Magisk and that's me. I don't need an app that makes my own data inaccessible for me without any reason.
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That's the reason why I gave NeoBackup as an alternative, although it doesn't have all the features of Swift Backup like restoring SSAIDs.
TheNewHEROBRINE said:
That's the reason why I gave NeoBackup as an alternative
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That seems to be a good alternative for Titanium Backup.

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