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Howdy all,
I am a bit new around here but I stay pretty busy on some other forums and I run a site called rockchipfirmare.com. I don't consider myself a developer in the true sense of the word but rather I mix-n-mash roms primarily without getting into too much actual coding.
So I have a question that is slightly out of my league and I am hoping someone with a bit more knowledge can lend a hand.
I have two chipsets in front of me.
One is the Samsung Exynost 4412 (Quad-Core A9 with Mali-400 MP4 gpu)
The other is a Rockchip RK3188 (Quad-Core A9 with Mali-400 MP4 gpu)
Basically, I have noticed that Exynos pretty much runs EVERYTHING just a little bit smoother than the RK3188 does, even though the RK3188 actually does better in most synthetic benchmarks.
I think it -might- be a driver optimization issue as I am sure Samsung does a heck of a lot more with their drivers than Rockhip. I also suspect that the Mali-400 GPU in the RK3188 is running at a lower clock than Rockchip claims. Thus far I haven't found a way to figure out what the GPU specifically is clocked at.
Anyhow, here is my question....
Would it be possible to get the Samsung Mali drivers from the Siyah kernel and import them into the RK3188 kernal for a specific device?
I think I have most of the tools to do so already as I can unpack and repack boot images for the RK3188. Although I never have gotten into the extracted kernel image.
I guess I am asking if I should spend time on the above or whether it is a fools errand and if I do spend time on it what exactly am I looking to get from the SIyah kernel once I get into it?
Any thoughts our help someone would like to throw my way are most welcome.
Kind Regards,
Roman
Would be wonderful if someone can do this
Well, that is what I am try to learn, how to combine different modules drivers.
If the module is compile with the same kernel version (Linux 3.0.36), then maybe it could work.
How is going so far? I really would like to learn about that to be able to recollect all the modules for different RK3188 tablets and the be able to recompile new version of the kernel.
I am going to start playing with a PIPO M6 but any help will be much appreciated.
Note: If the GPU driver are integrated in the kernel I don't know you are going to be able to use them, as you cannot build a complete kernel for your RK8188 tablet.
For mali, the source code is open source and it can be found at http://malideveloper.arm.com/develo...source-mali-gpus-linux-kernel-device-drivers/
Back from one of those fake markets in mainland China where I got myself a pretty good-looking phone which I'm desperately trying to identify, in order to install a new rom and hopefully get Google Play running on it.
The package says VOVI S968,it's bundled with 2 different protective shells, a 2nd battery and an old-fashion analog watch (!!). At around USD100 it's a pretty decent deal for a dual-sim 5" smartphone apparently running a recent version of Android (but probably not Android 4.3 as it says on the box). It looks rather thin and I find the blue metal backplate rather appealing.
As I really need Google Play on this toy in order to install some of the apps I purchased, I start to look at the phone specs in order to find out how to go about rooting it and installing a custom rom and that's where the night mare begins: all the specs are fake!!
Settings>About Phone tells me:
Model number: S880
Android version: 4.2.2
Kernel version 4 Core MTK6589
Build Number: XUNHU_S880_XY_V10_09-07-2013
cat /proc/cpuinfo tells me:
Processor: ARMv7 Processor rev 1 (v71)
4 x BogoMIPS: 1700.0 MHz
...
Hardware: MTK6589
Revision: 0000
Serial: 00000000000000000
Antutu 4 tells me:
Brand: MTK6589
Model: S880
OS: 4.2.2
... but also tells me that a shabby 7546 test score which is to my knowledge, way inferior to an actual MTK6589, which from what I googled, should reach somewhere around 13K.
The only information I can rely on so far is that when I connect it in USB debugging mode, Windows device manager tells me it's a Spreadtrum. I do not see however, which model I have.
I succesfully rooted it with motochop and adb files from this thread, but I feel I cannot go further and try to flash a new ROM on it without properly identifying my phone.
Can anyone please tell me what a the real specs of my phone and, if possible which rom I can safely flash onto it?
Thanks in advance,
Calagan
calagan said:
Back from one of those fake markets in mainland China where I got myself a pretty good-looking phone which I'm desperately trying to identify, in order to install a new rom and hopefully get Google Play running on it.
The package says VOVI S968,it's bundled with 2 different protective shells, a 2nd battery and an old-fashion analog watch (!!). At around USD100 it's a pretty decent deal for a dual-sim 5" smartphone apparently running a recent version of Android (but probably not Android 4.3 as it says on the box). It looks rather thin and I find the blue metal backplate rather appealing.
As I really need Google Play on this toy in order to install some of the apps I purchased, I start to look at the phone specs in order to find out how to go about rooting it and installing a custom rom and that's where the night mare begins: all the specs are fake!!
Settings>About Phone tells me:
Model number: S880
Android version: 4.2.2
Kernel version 4 Core MTK6589
Build Number: XUNHU_S880_XY_V10_09-07-2013
cat /proc/cpuinfo tells me:
Processor: ARMv7 Processor rev 1 (v71)
4 x BogoMIPS: 1700.0 MHz
...
Hardware: MTK6589
Revision: 0000
Serial: 00000000000000000
Antutu 4 tells me:
Brand: MTK6589
Model: S880
OS: 4.2.2
... but also tells me that a shabby 7546 test score which is to my knowledge, way inferior to an actual MTK6589, which from what I googled, should reach somewhere around 13K.
The only information I can rely on so far is that when I connect it in USB debugging mode, Windows device manager tells me it's a Spreadtrum. I do not see however, which model I have.
I succesfully rooted it with motochop and adb files from this thread, but I feel I cannot go further and try to flash a new ROM on it without properly identifying my phone.
Can anyone please tell me what a the real specs of my phone and, if possible which rom I can safely flash onto it?
Thanks in advance,
Calagan
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If I am not being repetitive cpu-z will give you some more info on the Soc cores etc. There are some other CPU tweaking programs that would help testing out the CPU and all those need root which you have . That will help find a more compatible rom or
easier ...put it on CL for sale
Hi guys.
First if this isnt the best section for this please move it to where it needs to go.
I was looking around Aliexpress and saw an octo core phone with mtk 6595 cpu, 4gb ram, 13mp camera etc and for the equivalent of £54 cost it seemed too good to be true. unfortunately that now seems the case. i noticed it was quite laggy which you wouldnt think an octo core phone would be and the photos were poor which a 13mp camera shouldnt produce.
so i downloaded some hardware identifying apps. some state the same details that the seller did. some state however - dual core 6572 cpu, 6mp camera. it also shows only 2 point multitouch where as more modern phones would allow more point multitouch. also when i downloaded google camera and went into the resolution settings, 6.2mp is the max allowed.
so i'm having a battle back and forth that either he refunds most of what i paid and lets me keep this poor phone as a spare for my son at a much lower price or pays the return postage costs and shows me some sort of guarantee i'll get my money back when he receives.
So....the question is, how has he or someone else set it so that it can fool some apps into reading incorrect data? and, even if i turn off data all together it still shows 4g for both sims even though 1 isnt even a 4g sim/data plan?
cheers guys.
marc.knuckle said:
Hi guys.
First if this isnt the best section for this please move it to where it needs to go.
I was looking around Aliexpress and saw an octo core phone with mtk 6595 cpu, 4gb ram, 13mp camera etc and for the equivalent of £54 cost it seemed too good to be true. unfortunately that now seems the case. i noticed it was quite laggy which you wouldnt think an octo core phone would be and the photos were poor which a 13mp camera shouldnt produce.
so i downloaded some hardware identifying apps. some state the same details that the seller did. some state however - dual core 6572 cpu, 6mp camera. it also shows only 2 point multitouch where as more modern phones would allow more point multitouch. also when i downloaded google camera and went into the resolution settings, 6.2mp is the max allowed.
so i'm having a battle back and forth that either he refunds most of what i paid and lets me keep this poor phone as a spare for my son at a much lower price or pays the return postage costs and shows me some sort of guarantee i'll get my money back when he receives.
So....the question is, how has he or someone else set it so that it can fool some apps into reading incorrect data? and, even if i turn off data all together it still shows 4g for both sims even though 1 isnt even a 4g sim/data plan?
cheers guys.
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He probably just changed the specs in the build.prop files so it shows that the phone is more powerful than it actually is and changed some images for the sim 4G.
janekmuric said:
He probably just changed the specs in the build.prop files so it shows that the phone is more powerful than it actually is and changed some images for the sim 4G.
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Is there any way to prove this or revert it back to stock without the false info?
If your phone has the mtk 6595 CPU your antutu benchmark must be 40000 or more if not then its probably a scam phone download and run the latest antutu benchmark 35000 is fine too but not 25000
Bigbossyousef said:
If your phone has the mtk 6595 CPU your antutu benchmark must be 40000 or more if not then its probably a scam phone download and run the latest antutu benchmark 35000 is fine too but not 25000
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it fails to finish the test saying something about failed network something or other yet still shows 48695 score. it actually doesnt mean much whatever the score is as it runs sluggishly, wont run any games like dead trigger 2 or similar and stutters playing youtube vids. also google camera shows max camera resolution allowed is 6.2mp rather than the 13mp claimed.
marc.knuckle said:
Is there any way to prove this or revert it back to stock without the false info?
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It's possible but there is no point in that since it won't do anything to the speed of the device. You would just be wasting time.
janekmuric said:
It's possible but there is no point in that since it won't do anything to the speed of the device. You would just be wasting time.
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Part of the reason is for proof to get a refund and the other reason is if i keep it and eventually sell it, I'd want to have the correct details on it
marc.knuckle said:
Part of the reason is for proof to get a refund and the other reason is if i keep it and eventually sell it, I'd want to have the correct details on it
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Just download CPU-Z it shows all the correct specs. Then edit the build.prop file so the specs are matching. Make sure to do some research before you cahange anything in the build.prop and always remember to make a backup.
janekmuric said:
Just download CPU-Z it shows all the correct specs. Then edit the build.prop file so the specs are matching. Make sure to do some research before you cahange anything in the build.prop and always remember to make a backup.
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cpuz shows it as octa core but specifically that only 2 cores are working and only at 1.2ghz which is further confirming that it is actually a mt6572.
also, any ideas if there are custom roms that i could install and would this then wipe the fake build.prop details?
thanks again
marc.knuckle said:
cpuz shows it as octa core but specifically that only 2 cores are working and only at 1.2ghz which is further confirming that it is actually a mt6572.
also, any ideas if there are custom roms that i could install and would this then wipe the fake build.prop details?
thanks again
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I didn't find any roms for your phone, but you don't need to install a rom to change build.prop details. Also build.prop does not contain most of the specs. A lot of them are in the hardware and in the kernel.
janekmuric said:
I didn't find any roms for your phone, but you don't need to install a rom to change build.prop details. Also build.prop does not contain most of the specs. A lot of them are in the hardware and in the kernel.
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I couldn't find a rom either. I didn't know if there was such a thing as a generic lollipop rom that could be flashed to any mediatek phone.
I didn't want to just edit the build.prop myself to the specs that i think it should have, i wanted to do some sort of wipe that would then correct it automatically.
Thanks again.
marc.knuckle said:
I couldn't find a rom either. I didn't know if there was such a thing as a generic lollipop rom that could be flashed to any mediatek phone.
I didn't want to just edit the build.prop myself to the specs that i think it should have, i wanted to do some sort of wipe that would then correct it automatically.
Thanks again.
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Well, there isn't such a thing as a generic rom, but you still can make a recovery with MTKDroidTools or Easy Magic TWRP Installer (Recommended)
Try an app called hardware info also try asphalt 8 and beach buggy racing and gt racing too you can't judge a device playing one game if all games lag even on low graphics then its a scam and about ( CPU z) showing only two cores working might be due to the fact that most phones disable most of the cpu cores in idle mode but all core do work while gaming I have a lenovo a3500 with four cores( set CPU) shows only two cores working in idle but it reads 4 cores total so it doesn't mean that the cpu is fake if all cores are not active in idle in fact if all cores work in idle it would be a huge waste of battery and no mobile os wants to do that my last advice is to try several games and see
And remember gaming performance depends heavily on the GPU ( the graphics card ) and your phone might have the Mali mp you and its not good enough for most games nowadays
A quick list for you explaning performance rating asphalt 8 1280 x 800 high
Mali mp ( 4 fps )
Mali mp2 ( 7 fps )
Adreno 305 (17 fps )
Power vr 6430 ( 24 fps )
So run hardware info app and see if you have Mali or power vr 6430 if you have Mali then it explanes the bad performance due to what I said earlier
Type: Tablet
Brand: Unbranded
Screen Size: 10.1 in
Operating system: Android 9.0
RAM: 8 GB
Storage Capacity: 512 GB
Bluetooth: 4.1
External memory: Support SDHC
Front camera: 8 MP
Rear camera: 13.0MP
Processor: Deca Core
Screen type: IPS
Resolution: 2560 * 1600
Internet Connectivity: Wi-Fi
Running time: Up to 5 hours
Power adapter: 5V / 2A
Network: WIFI 802.11a / b / g / n
Model number: TAB910
Custom Build version: vEN52S3
Build number: TAB910-vEN52S3_20200416
not sure what other information I need to provide,
Due to site limitations, I am unable to provide a direct external link, but the product number was: 283812323007 from the eBayAU site
Looking to flash to Android 10 if I am able
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Type: Tablet
Brand: Unbranded
Screen Size: 10.1 in
Operating system: Android 9.0
RAM: 8 GB
Storage Capacity: 512 GB
Bluetooth: 4.1
External memory: Support SDHC
Front camera: 8 MP
Rear camera: 13.0MP
Processor: Deca Core
Screen type: IPS
Resolution: 2560 * 1600
Internet Connectivity: Wi-Fi
Running time: Up to 5 hours
Power adapter: 5V / 2A
Network: WIFI 802.11a / b / g / n
Model number: TAB910
Custom Build version: vEN52S3
Build number: TAB910-vEN52S3_20200416
not sure what other information I need to provide, I can include to originating product link if it is needed
Looking to flash to Android 10 if I am able
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Hi,
It's really unlikely to find a ROM for not popular device, so this unbranded tablet have very little chance to have a custom ROM. Developers usually buy phone they enjoy because of the experience the phone offers, those are usually flagship or at least phones from known brand like Motorola , Google , OnePlus,...
So even if you find the name, I doubt you'll find anything...
Edit #1:
Providing the link from where you bought it would be very helpful to identify the device, please provide it
Hope you still have a good day lol
Raiz said:
Hi,
It's really unlikely to find a ROM for not popular device, so this unbranded tablet have very little chance to have a custom ROM. Developers usually buy phone they enjoy because of the experience the phone offers, those are usually flagship or at least phones from known brand like Motorola , Google , OnePlus,...
So even if you find the name, I doubt you'll find anything...
Edit #1:
Providing the link from where you bought it would be very helpful to identify the device, please provide it
Hope you still have a good day lol
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Hi, I have the same Tablet with the same so called specs but in fact it is not. I can't install many apps because of the low version of android 4.4 api level 19. I have asked for help if it is possible to upgrade or Root so it can accept the new apps.
Can you help in here?
Thanks
Mondrimo said:
Hi, I have the same Tablet with the same so called specs but in fact it is not. I can't install many apps because of the low version of android 4.4 api level 19. I have asked for help if it is possible to upgrade or Root so it can accept the new apps.
Can you help in here?
Thanks
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No, what you have is a device that is "hacked" together with whatever they could use. This means you will not find anything to make the device function any better. Most importantly, the device has old hardware that wouldn't be able to use newer software even if you did find a way to install something newer.
For future reference, don't waste your money on cheap tablets, you get what you pay for......complete junk. Buy branded tablets only and even then, don't buy the cheap chinese brands.
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Droidriven said:
No, what you have is a device that is "hacked" together with whatever they could use. This means you will not find anything to make the device function any better. Most importantly, the device has old hardware that wouldn't be able to use newer software even if you did find a way to install something newer.
For future reference, don't waste your money on cheap tablets, you get what you pay for......complete junk. Buy branded tablets only and even then, don't buy the cheap chinese brands.
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Ok, sorry for not being that aware about scams. I bought it from here:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/10-1-8G-51...hash=item48e58f80b0:m:mApkEvL0mPOieHk9wvI4EVA
And i paid extra 37$ for transportation to my country, so if this you consider it cheap around 117$ as a total payment as i thought it was a good deal.
Now if i am asking for help in XDA because there are many engineers and experienced people who may have the solution for this.
I hope they can read me..
Mondrimo said:
Ok, sorry for not being that aware about scams. I bought it from here:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/10-1-8G-51...hash=item48e58f80b0:m:mApkEvL0mPOieHk9wvI4EVA
And i paid extra 37$ for transportation to my country, so if this you consider it cheap around 117$ as a total payment as i thought it was a good deal.
Now if i am asking for help in XDA because there are many engineers and experienced people who may have the solution for this.
I hope they can read me..
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The point I was making is, no one can do anything for or with your device. There are many reasons why I say this, but, I'm not going to list those reasons. Just take my word for it, I've been a member of this website for years and I've seen many unbranded cloned devices that didn't have what they were listed as when they were bought. These devices do not have stock source code available to the public, this means that custom ROMs can not be built for the device because stock source code is required to build them. They also do not have stock firmware available to the public, which means you can't port a ROM or firmware from a similar device because your stock firmware is required to port a ROM or firmware.
On top of that, even if the stock source and stock firmware were available, you wouldn't find anyone to build anything for you unless you donated one of these tablets to them in order to use it to build and test what they build. Also, no developer would have any interest in trying to build anything for this device.
Even if you did find a way of updating the device to something newer, it would be very slow, it would have poor performance, it would be glitchy, buggy and possibly even freeze or randomly reboot.
Like I said, a complete waste of time. Get a better tablet if you want to use anything from XDA.
Just accept it, there is nothing you can do with this tablet to make it better.
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Droidriven said:
The point I was making is, no one can do anything for or with your device. There are many reasons why I say this, but, I'm not going to list those reasons. Just take my word for it, I've been a member of this website for years and I've seen many unbranded cloned devices that didn't have what they were listed as when they were bought. These devices do not have stock source code available to the public, this means that custom ROMs can not be built for the device because stock source code is required to build them. They also do not have stock firmware available to the public, which means you can't port a ROM or firmware from a similar device because your stock firmware is required to port a ROM or firmware.
On top of that, even if the stock source and stock firmware were available, you wouldn't find anyone to build anything for you unless you donated one of these tablets to them in order to use it to build and test what they build. Also, no developer would have any interest in trying to build anything for this device.
Even if you did find a way of updating the device to something newer, it would be very slow, it would have poor performance, it would be glitchy, buggy and possibly even freeze or randomly reboot.
Like I said, a complete waste of time. Get a better tablet if you want to use anything from XDA.
Just accept it, there is nothing you can do with this tablet to make it better.
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Fine i got the message, but browse on ebay and you will see many suppliers are selling such fake Tablets. I have been buying many items from ebay and never have i been scammed as i am now. I thought ebay is a reputable company and does not allow fake sellers. I have reported to ebay this scam hopefully they will react and forbid such suppliers to croock the buyers like me and others. In my opinion and since XDA is known for its qualifications in softwares and hardwares, they should get ready to find solutions for these unbranded tablets since they are increasing in sales and many have fallen into them. It's just my opinion.
Mondrimo said:
Fine i got the message, but browse on ebay and you will see many suppliers are selling such fake Tablets. I have been buying many items from ebay and never have i been scammed as i am now. I thought ebay is a reputable company and does not allow fake sellers. I have reported to ebay this scam hopefully they will react and forbid such suppliers to croock the buyers like me and others. In my opinion and since XDA is known for its qualifications in softwares and hardwares, they should get ready to find solutions for these unbranded tablets since they are increasing in sales and many have fallen into them. It's just my opinion.
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Lol, XDA should get ready? You think it is XDA's "responsibility" to offer software for devices like this? Your opinion is incorrect and way off the mark.
You don't understand what XDA is, that isn't how it works here. XDA itself is not who comes up with the software here, this is just the place where it gets posted. The individual members and developers here are the ones that create the software that you find here, then they post it here for others to share and they only build for the devices they personally own. Developers have no interest in owning or building for devices like yours, people with that kind of knowledge and skill do not buy those kinds of devices. This is not an end-user software support forum, this is a DEVELOPMENT forum. Everyone here are just volunteers, it is not a job, the developers here are just members like you and I, the difference is, they are members that have knowledge of how to modify android software and they share what they create here. There is not a team of people here sitting around creating software for every device on the market. This website started out as a "developer only" website where developers could share their works and resources with each other or discuss aspects of development, at some point, they decided to allow the public to have access to the forum. They didn't "have" to do this, they "chose" to do this. This place is about sharing development, not creating solutions for everybody that needs a solution. If you see a cheap off brand device here that has ROMs, it is because a user that owned one could not find anything here and decided to take it upon themselves to learn how to build a ROM for their device, then they shared it here, it is not done by a "developer", it is done by a "member" that chose to learn how to develop for their own device. You would sooner find a solution by following their example than you would by "expecting" XDA to do it for you.
You actually thought you were going to get a tablet with specs like that for less than $100? You can't get a decent tablet with specs like that for $400, much less $100.
Don't buy anything that ships from China on eBay, everything from there is a "knock-off", I mean everything, not just electronics, anyone familiar with eBay knows that and don't buy from AliExpress or Wish either. Don't buy anything that has a Mediatek CPU, the specs listed for your tablet say its CPU is MT6582/MT6797, that is MTxxxx CPU=Mediatek. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. You know the old saying "buyer beware". Take it as a lesson learned.
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Droidriven said:
Lol, XDA should get ready? You think it is XDA's "responsibility" to offer software for devices like this? Your opinion is incorrect and way off the mark.
You don't understand what XDA is, that isn't how it works here. XDA itself is not who comes up with the software here, this is just the place where it gets posted. The individual members and developers here are the ones that create the software that you find here, then they post it here for others to share and they only build for the devices they personally own. Developers have no interest in owning or building for devices like yours, people with that kind of knowledge and skill do not buy those kinds of devices. This is not an end-user software support forum, this is a DEVELOPMENT forum. Everyone here are just volunteers, it is not a job, the developers here are just members like you and I, the difference is, they are members that have knowledge of how to modify android software and they share what they create here. There is not a team of people here sitting around creating software for every device on the market. This website started out as a "developer only" website where developers could share their works and resources with each other or discuss aspects of development, at some point, they decided to allow the public to have access to the forum. They didn't "have" to do this, they "chose" to do this. This place is about sharing development, not creating solutions for everybody that needs a solution. If you see a cheap off brand device here that has ROMs, it is because a user that owned one could not find anything here and decided to take it upon themselves to learn how to build a ROM for their device, then they shared it here, it is not done by a "developer", it is done by a "member" that chose to learn how to develop for their own device. You would sooner find a solution by following their example than you would by "expecting" XDA to do it for you.
You actually thought you were going to get a tablet with specs like that for less than $100? You can't get a decent tablet with specs like that for $400, much less $100.
Don't buy anything that ships from China on eBay, everything from there is a "knock-off", I mean everything, not just electronics, anyone familiar with eBay knows that and don't buy from AliExpress or Wish either. Don't buy anything that has a Mediatek CPU, the specs listed for your tablet say its CPU is MT6582/MT6797, that is Mediatek. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. You know the old saying "buyer beware". Take it as a lesson learned.
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Apparently you are being ironic and sarcastic in terms of trying to be wise and criticizing me by purchasing this tablet and not knowing who i am and to whom you are talking to. It is not because i am asking for help i need to read this patronizing and insignificant comments of yours. Don't be in your own box, think out of it because this might happen to your friend or relatives.
Now i was writing to members who have the same issues and not to you. So give your philosophical comments to someone else.
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Apparently you are being ironic and sarcastic in terms of trying to be wise and criticizing me by purchasing this tablet and not knowing who i am and to whom you are talking to. It is not because i am asking for help i need to read this patronizing and insignificant comments of yours. Don't be in your own box, think out of it because this might happen to your friend or relatives.
Now i was writing to members who have the same issues and not to you. So give your philosophical comments to someone else.
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No, I was telling you how things actually work around here, because what I posted is how this site functions and what its purpose is. None of it was to be rude, it was to be informative in a matter-of-fact manner.
The difference is, I was posting based on what XDA actually is and you are posting based on what you hoped it was.
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I need a custom rom for unbranded Chinese tablet TAB910 mt679
Raiz said:
Hi,
It's really unlikely to find a ROM for not popular device, so this unbranded tablet have very little chance to have a custom ROM. Developers usually buy phone they enjoy because of the experience the phone offers, those are usually flagship or at least phones from known brand like Motorola , Google , OnePlus,...
So even if you find the name, I doubt you'll find anything...
Edit #1:
Providing the link from where you bought it would be very helpful to identify the device, please provide it
Hope you still have a good day lol
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I also have the same tablet. I bought it on Aliexpress.
All properties mentioned in seller's description are fake. as it is android 4.4 not android 9 and ram is 1GB not 8 and rom is 16 or 32 and not 128.
This is the data I got by AIDA64 app.
<<< System >>>
Manufacturer: Jlinksz
Model: TAB910
Hardware: mt6797
Serial: 0123456789ABCDEF
Installed RAM: 8 GB
Total Memory: 8112 MB
Internal Storage Total Space: 127.13 GB
Bluetooth Version: 4+
<<< CPU >>>
SoC Model: MediaTek Helio X20 (MT6797)
Core Architecture: 4x ARM Cortex-A53 @ 2300 MHz
4x ARM Cortex-A53 @ 2300 MHz
2x ARM Cortex-A72 @ 2300 MHz
Manufacturing Process: 20 nm
Instruction Set: 64-bit ARMv8-A (32-bit Mode)
CPU Revision: r0p3
CPU Cores: 10 Cores
CPU Clock Range: 598 - 2300 MHz
Core 1 Clock: 2300 MHz
Core 2 Clock: 2300 MHz
Core 3 Clock: (sleeping)
Core 4 Clock: (sleeping)
Core 5 Clock: 2300 MHz
Core 6 Clock: (sleeping)
Core 7 Clock: (sleeping)
Core 8 Clock: (sleeping)
Core 9 Clock: 2300 MHz
Core 10 Clock: (sleeping)
CPU Utilization: 37 %
Scaling Governor: hotplug
CPU ABI: armeabi-v7a
CPU ABI2: armeabi
AES: Supported
NEON: Supported
PMULL: Not Supported
SHA1: Supported
SHA2: Supported
<<< Android >>>
Android Version: 4.4 (KitKat)
API Level: 19
Rooted Device: Yes
Android ID: ecd60217258ebac4
Baseband: MOLY.WR8.W1315.MD.WG.MP.V54, 2020/04/01 11:16
Build ID: TAB910_vEN52S3_20200416
Codename: REL
Fingerprint: G-tab/P789/P789:6.0/MRA58K/20180320.145903:user/release-keys
ID: KOT49H
Incremental: vEN52S3
Java Runtime Version: Android Runtime 0.9
Java VM Version: Dalvik 1.6.0
Java VM Heap Size: 128 MB
Kernel Architecture: armv7l
Kernel Version: 3.4.67 ([email protected]) (gcc version 4.7 (GCC) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Apr 16 10:47:37 CST 2020
Tags: release-keys
Type: user
Google Play Services Version: 20.26.14 (000300-320008519)
Huawei Mobile Services Version: < Not Present >
OpenSSL Version: OpenSSL 1.0.1e 11 Feb 2013
ZLib Version: 1.2.8
ICU CLDR Version: 23.0
ICU Library Version: 51.1.0.1
ICU Unicode Version: 6.2
Aboziad412011 said:
I also have the same tablet. I bought it on Aliexpress.
All properties mentioned in seller's description are fake. as it is android 4.4 not android 9 and ram is 1GB not 8 and rom is 16 or 32 and not 128.
This is the data I got by AIDA64 app.
<<< System >>>
Manufacturer: Jlinksz
Model: TAB910
Hardware: mt6797
Serial: 0123456789ABCDEF
Installed RAM: 8 GB
Total Memory: 8112 MB
Internal Storage Total Space: 127.13 GB
Bluetooth Version: 4+
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SoC Model: MediaTek Helio X20 (MT6797)
Core Architecture: 4x ARM Cortex-A53 @ 2300 MHz
4x ARM Cortex-A53 @ 2300 MHz
2x ARM Cortex-A72 @ 2300 MHz
Manufacturing Process: 20 nm
Instruction Set: 64-bit ARMv8-A (32-bit Mode)
CPU Revision: r0p3
CPU Cores: 10 Cores
CPU Clock Range: 598 - 2300 MHz
Core 1 Clock: 2300 MHz
Core 2 Clock: 2300 MHz
Core 3 Clock: (sleeping)
Core 4 Clock: (sleeping)
Core 5 Clock: 2300 MHz
Core 6 Clock: (sleeping)
Core 7 Clock: (sleeping)
Core 8 Clock: (sleeping)
Core 9 Clock: 2300 MHz
Core 10 Clock: (sleeping)
CPU Utilization: 37 %
Scaling Governor: hotplug
CPU ABI: armeabi-v7a
CPU ABI2: armeabi
AES: Supported
NEON: Supported
PMULL: Not Supported
SHA1: Supported
SHA2: Supported
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Android Version: 4.4 (KitKat)
API Level: 19
Rooted Device: Yes
Android ID: ecd60217258ebac4
Baseband: MOLY.WR8.W1315.MD.WG.MP.V54, 2020/04/01 11:16
Build ID: TAB910_vEN52S3_20200416
Codename: REL
Fingerprint: G-tab/P789/P789:6.0/MRA58K/20180320.145903:user/release-keys
ID: KOT49H
Incremental: vEN52S3
Java Runtime Version: Android Runtime 0.9
Java VM Version: Dalvik 1.6.0
Java VM Heap Size: 128 MB
Kernel Architecture: armv7l
Kernel Version: 3.4.67 ([email protected]) (gcc version 4.7 (GCC) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Apr 16 10:47:37 CST 2020
Tags: release-keys
Type: user
Google Play Services Version: 20.26.14 (000300-320008519)
Huawei Mobile Services Version: < Not Present >
OpenSSL Version: OpenSSL 1.0.1e 11 Feb 2013
ZLib Version: 1.2.8
ICU CLDR Version: 23.0
ICU Library Version: 51.1.0.1
ICU Unicode Version: 6.2
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That isn't very helpful because those specs are faked.
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Droidriven said:
That isn't very helpful because those specs are faked.
Sent from my SM-S767VL using Tapatalk
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First thank you for your replay and can you tell me what will be helpful to get a rom for this tablet?
I have finished reading a thread on XDA with 46 pages continue for one year about another model of same tablet but runs on mt6582. In your opinion is this rom posted in last page of that thread can be matched with my tablet. I did not try.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...6582-make-custom-rom-add-root-t3877701/page46
Aboziad412011 said:
First thank you for your replay and can you tell me what will be helpful to get a rom for this tablet?
I have finished reading a thread on XDA with 46 pages continue for one year about another model of same tablet but runs on mt6582. In your opinion is this rom posted in last page of that thread can be matched with my tablet. I did not try.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...6582-make-custom-rom-add-root-t3877701/page46
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No, you need to verify exactly which CPU series you have, I wouldn't trust what the software is saying it is. I would open the device to physically look at the CPU to see what series it is. Once you establish which processor you have, then you can try finding a firmware for another device that has the same CPU. But, there is more to it than just having the same CPU, the devices need to have the same screen resolution, the same size internal storage, the same RAM, same camera, etc... If any of the hardware components are different, the firmware probably won't work. To be honest, I really don't think you will find anything to work and if you do find something that somewhat works, you will probably have to make modifications to the firmware to get everything to work like it is supposed to.
To all of you asking/looking for a firmware from another device to use on this one, to put it in perspective, realistically, you all have about a 10% chance of finding something that works. That is a 90%(or more) chance of failing.
My point is, it isn't worth the time or the effort because even if you do find something to flash, it probably won't be exactly correct. There will be features and functions that don't work correctly, the device will probably be glitchy/sluggish and many other probable issues.
This device just is not worth it, in the end, you will have put in a lot of time, effort, headaches and hair-pulling into trying to improve the device only to not be satisfied with the results.
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Is it possible to run arm64-v8a
games on my Redmi 9c M2006C3MG (armeabi-v7a)?
It may sound an absurd question to you experts but I googled a lot about it and couldn't be convinced that isn't possible.
Thanks a lot in advance
64-bit SoCs ( ARMV8 archictecture ) can run 32-bit apps, but 32-bit SoCs ( ARMV7 aechitecture ) cannot run 64-bit apps. If the architecture is wrong installation will just fail and app won't run.
xXx yYy said:
64-bit SoCs ( ARMV8 archictecture ) can run 32-bit apps, but 32-bit SoCs ( ARMV7 aechitecture ) cannot run 64-bit apps. If the architecture is wrong installation will just fail and app won't run.
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Thanks a lot for your clarification
Grecco 22 said:
Is it possible to run arm64-v8a
games on my Redmi 9c M2006C3MG (armeabi-v7a)?
It may sound an absurd question to you experts but I googled a lot about it and couldn't be convinced that isn't possible.
Thanks a lot in advance
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what? Mediatek G35 is a arm64 chip so you should able to run 64bit game
Grecco 22 said:
Is it possible to run arm64-v8a
games on my Redmi 9c M2006C3MG (armeabi-v7a)?
It may sound an absurd question to you experts but I googled a lot about it and couldn't be convinced that isn't possible.
Thanks a lot in advance
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Check if your os run in 32bit or 64bit mode
Guan Yu said:
Check if your os run in 32bit or 64bit mode
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So, that's the controversy Guan Yu. I've posted this question because after researching a lot about the subject I came to a conclusion that although this device comes with an armeabi-v7a CPU, its processor is capable to run 64bit games, if it's not already a 64bit processor.
Answering your question, any device info tool that I've installed says the arquitecture of my phone is only armeabi-v7a therefore I'm able to install only 32bit games.
To me is very embarrassing this controversy because I would do anything including rooting my phone to be able to play 64bit games on it.
Also I would like to add to my phone's specs that it is 4GB RAM, with 128GB storage.
Normally this device model comes with 2 or 3GB RAM and 32/64GB storage only.
Thanks for your contribution on trying to solve this question Guan Yu.
Grecco 22 said:
So, that's the controversy Guan Yu. I've posted this question because after researching a lot about the subject I came to a conclusion that although this device comes with an armeabi-v7a CPU, its processor is capable to run 64bit games, if it's not already a 64bit processor.
Answering your question, any device info tool that I've installed says the arquitecture of my phone is only armeabi-v7a therefore I'm able to install only 32bit games.
To me is very embarrassing this controversy because I would do anything including rooting my phone to be able to play 64bit games on it.
Also I would like to add to my phone's specs that it is 4GB RAM, with 128GB storage.
Normally this device model comes with 2 or 3GB RAM and 32/64GB storage only.
Thanks for your contribution on trying to solve this question Guan Yu.
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can you send me a screenshot about your phone specs ? Im curious about it
Well the OP's phone probably have a arm64 chipset but 32 bit software, because in that case all apps that list phone specs will recognise it as 32 bit phone.
As I know, Redmi 9C uses MediaTek Helio G35 chipset. Inside the MediaTek Helio G35 is a 64-bit octa-core Arm Cortex-A53 CPU.
The mentioned phone has a 64-bit SoC, means it can process ARMv8-2.A instruction set.
But: Whether a phone's Android OS runs in 32-bit or 64-bit mode is determined by phone's Android kernel at boottime - the kernel is the 1st thing what gets loaded by device's bootloader.
Guan Yu said:
can you send me a screenshot about your phone specs ? Im curious about it
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A more in depth info:
---------Device---------
Device name: Redmi 9C
Model: M2006C3MG
Manufacturer: Xiaomi
Device: angelica
Board: angelica
Hardware: mt6765
Brand: Redmi
---------System---------
Version name: Android 10 Q
Kernel architecture: armv8l
Kernel version: 268 MB
---------CPU---------
Hardware: MT6765G
Cores: 8
CPU frequency: 400MHz - 2301MHz
Core 1: 1750 Mhz
Core 2: 1750 Mhz
Core 3: 1750 Mhz
Core 4: 1750 Mhz
Core 5: 1800 Mhz
Core 6: 1800 Mhz
Core 7: 1800 Mhz
Core 8: 1800 Mhz
SOC: Mediatek Helio G35
Processor: AArch64 Processor rev 4 (aarch64)
Supported ABIs: armeabi-v7a, armeabi
CPU hardware: MT6765G
CPU governor: Unknown
GPU renderer: PowerVR Rogue GE8320
GPU vendor: Imagination Technologies
GPU version: OpenGL ES-CM 1.1
When will you take notice of fact that only 32-bit ( ARMEABI-v7a ) apps/services are supported though SoC is 64-bit capable? If you want to have true 64-bit support then you have to replace device's Android kernel by a kernel what supports 64-bit processing - and also the Android OS by a 64-bit one.
As I've asked and said in the first place, to you guys who are experts my question may seem too obvious but I will risk to take my conclusions based on the answers posted here.
To run 64bit apk on my device I need another rom, is that right?
Of course I need to root it right?
Is there any recommended rom to my device in which I would be able to run the 64bit apks?
I'm really grateful for your answers! Thank you
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Grecco 22 said:
As I've asked and said in the first place, to you guys who are experts my question may seem too obvious but I will risk to take my conclusions based on the answers posted here.
To run 64bit apk on my device I need another rom, is that right?
Of course I need to root it right?
Is there any recommended rom to my device in which I would be able to run the 64bit apks?
I'm really grateful for your answers! Thank you
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it is quite unfair to users , 32bit in 2022 ?, come on . I have a redmi 5 running snapdragon 450 , although it is older and performs as well as Mediatek G35 , it runs in 64 bit mode and can install 64bit games . This is a rather confusing and unfair step by xiaomi, plus the device runs a mediatek chip, so there is no custom kernel for you. so you can say you bought the scam
Guan Yu said:
it is quite unfair to users , 32bit in 2022 ?, come on . I have a redmi 5 running snapdragon 450 , although it is older and performs as well as Mediatek G35 , it runs in 64 bit mode and can install 64bit games . This is a rather confusing and unfair step by xiaomi, plus the device runs a mediatek chip, so there is no custom kernel for you. so you can say you bought the scam
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OMG !! How incoherent smartphones companies perpetrate technology !
It's frustrating.
Grecco 22 said:
OMG !! How incoherent smartphones companies perpetrate technology !
It's frustrating.
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Also, Many apps on play Store are now dropping support for 32 bit. I think it's intentionally done by xioami so that their customers buy their more expensive devices.
Even my old Nokia 3 from 2017 which had a Mediatek MT6737 (weaker than snapdragon 410) ran on a 64 bit kernel and os.
ardwivedi16 said:
Also, Many apps on play Store are now dropping support for 32 bit. I think it's intentionally done by xioami so that their customers buy their more expensive devices.
Even my old Nokia 3 from 2017 which had a Mediatek MT6737 (weaker than snapdragon 410) ran on a 64 bit kernel and os.
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Regrettable their approaching
Grecco 22 said:
OMG !! How incoherent smartphones companies perpetrate technology !
It's frustrating.
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It's also partly due to the way consumers buy phones blindly. most of them don't even know what functions their device has. And these are the consequences of it, companies take advantage of this to make more money. If consumers better understand what they are spending, the companies that make money from the blindness of customers will be eliminated and create a fairer game .
Guan Yu said:
It's also partly due to the way consumers buy phones blindly. most of them don't even know what functions their device has. And these are the consequences of it, companies take advantage of this to make more money. If consumers better understand what they are spending, the companies that make money from the blindness of customers will be eliminated and create a fairer game .
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To be honest I did wanted to know this phone specs before I was buying it.
But after confirming so many other (at least to me) important features of this device model such as RAM memory, storage and it's processor, I not even gave much attention to the architecture of it, thinking that it would be obviously running both a 64bit/32bit architecture, therefore being able to run such games.
Maybe I'm not the only one who owns a device like this hoping who knows some day someone coming up with a 'magical rom solution' to it.
(the kernel stuff)
At last, I have no complain about the rest of the device capabilities which are marvelous.
I was getting ready to root it if it was the condition to make it capable of running 64bits applications.
If there's no such rom, I will try to keep it unrooted as long as I can bear MIUI and an unrooted Android.
I'm learning...