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I need the mind of a good hacker. Somebody who knows the ins and outs of all these programs and how to make them work better.
My question is this:
Would it be at all possible to have an apk file that can extract necessary files on to the SD card to boot up as a temporary "recovery boot mode" that runs outside but next to your ROM?
Then how about adding a function on your phone (widget or an app) that will bring you to the "2nd operating system"? I guess that's what it'd be right? The thing that controls all the deleting and installing of new zip's... Anyways, make this 2nd operating system a lot more visually functional than the (clockworkmod recovery, xionia, etc..) other rec. modes.
I mean we're working with tiny laptops. These are computers, not "phones". They just make phone calls too. Why would you LEAVE a program in "MS DOS" mode? Spice it up, give it pictures...
Anyways... Bad rant but valid.
Let's wrap all of these up in one program. One "App". This app will scan what firmware you're using, use that info to disregard some roms from your selection and only allow you to flash a rom that will work with your phone or was made for your phone. Browse through working models of some of the mods (actually test function and design by looking at 1 to 4 interactive pages of the phone design (lock screen, how it looks when you rotate the rotary to unlock but does nothing else).
I have some ideas how this can be "realistically" done, but not the programming knowledge to know how to actually do any of this.
The thing is, if you can do this - I will bankroll you. Just making up for the time you spend doing this though. I'm not going to pay you like your boss does so don't quit. I mean we can work it out. 50 bucks a month or something. Just something so you can tell your friends and loved ones "I'm getting paid, let me get on the computer".
If it is possible to do and it gets done... **** man, I'll give you a thousand or something. We'll see how much I have at the time.
Let me know if you're interested so we can work out how much you will need.
Also, sorry whatever mod is reading this and about to ban me (I read the warning. sorry.)
I defend myself by saying that in no other forum could I find the specific target group for this question. This is exactly the people I need to ask this because this clearly isn't a question related to "Live wallpaper Deadmau5" as in the "Android Software Development" forum.
Anyways, if this idea even just gets done... that's the important part. Progress in technology. What a ****ing thrill...
*Disclaimer*
Seriously, if you take this idea and make money off of it... Well, just change your IP address so it doesn't match up with your current one and hope this site doesn't tell that you were on this page. Reading my post. That is time and date stamped. That will hold up in court that you did this idea after you read this post. Plus how long after you read this did you do it and is that about the time it takes to start right after you're done reading.
On a lighter note - You know this will make money. I'm already going to pay you. But if it's such a great idea, shouldn't I get at least half of the cut this makes on the market? You wouldn't be doing it if I didn't have this great ****ing idea.
TL;DR:
Can we flash a rom without rebooting first?
Uhh...you want a dual boot? I'm confused
sent from my epic 4g. with the key skips.
It is possible, at least on the HTC devices, or especially threw Desire HD:
We got Ubuntu running from a boot.img and if we flash something like that into the recovery partition, simply a boot.img as recovery-system, then it should boot and maybe we can build a simple Linux from scratch for it and enable fastboot somehow to get the simple features.
And maybe we can get something more out of it.
Or we just use a small Android.
But isn't the ROM Manager a little like your idea?
You can choose device-specific ROMs, flash them, do backups, you just got to reboot.
That's the only difference to your idea, isn't it?
Let me preface this by saying I still don't 'quite' understand the unlocking thing and all the different methods. I think I'd like to stay away from unlocking because it seems it's a hassle and could cause issues with future updates and overall things occasionally not working correctly. The whole reason I have this phone is because of the fact that it pretty much always works as it should. Also with what appears to be no good apps to sideload, I'm not really sure the purpose of unlocking?
Anyway, is there an easy way to just get custom tile colors like black and white, or do I need to first unlock? And if I do need to unlock, is there a simple method that doesn't really increase my chances of my device getting screwy?
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Let me preface this by saying I still don't 'quite' understand the unlocking thing and all the different methods. I think I'd like to stay away from unlocking because it seems it's a hassle and could cause issues with future updates and overall things occasionally not working correctly. The whole reason I have this phone is because of the fact that it pretty much always works as it should. Also with what appears to be no good apps to sideload, I'm not really sure the purpose of unlocking?
Anyway, is there an easy way to just get custom tile colors like black and white, or do I need to first unlock? And if I do need to unlock, is there a simple method that doesn't really increase my chances of my device getting screwy?
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The short answer is: No
The long answer: Unless MS delivers an update in the future that allows you to change accent colors you need an unlocked phone for now. On Mango the program that allows you to change accent colors is Advanced Config Tool by Schaps.
read more here.
As to your preface. Unlocking is not too risky anymore if you follow Heathcliff's post. The purpose of unlocking is exactly to do things you are asking for, e.g. customization like custom accents, icons, tile folders etc.
Also, I am not sure what you mean by "issues with future updates and overall things occasionally not working correctly". I have never experienced problems with unlocking. You may lose it when you upgrade, but that's it.
derausgewanderte said:
The short answer is: No
The long answer: Unless MS delivers an update in the future that allows you to change accent colors you need an unlocked phone for now. On Mango the program that allows you to change accent colors is Advanced Config Tool by Schaps.
read more here.
As to your preface. Unlocking is not too risky anymore if you follow Heathcliff's post. The purpose of unlocking is exactly to do things you are asking for, e.g. customization like custom accents, icons, tile folders etc.
Also, I am not sure what you mean by "issues with future updates and overall things occasionally not working correctly". I have never experienced problems with unlocking. You may lose it when you upgrade, but that's it.
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So it sounds like what you're saying is that the worst that would likely happen is re-locking when an update comes? I'd be worried about the opposite: not being able to upgrade. The other thing I meant was, I hear about things not working correctly and getting errors and stuff when unlocking. I'm unclear whether these are simply errors that do not effect the phones original functionality, or if it can start to mess with the phone itself and cause errors, freezing, etc.
edit: and I was reading heathcliff's unlock. is that a secondary unlock that you can do after you're already developer unlocked? is there a free way to dev unlock or is the best solution now to use chevron? I also read something about a free account for students but it mentioned needing to submit apps which I'm unaware of how to do.
nevermind, thanks for the help! figured i'd give everything a try. dev unlocked, inter-op unlocked, and used advanced config tools and changed my theme! what other fun things can i do now?
cgibsong002 said:
nevermind, thanks for the help! figured i'd give everything a try. dev unlocked, inter-op unlocked, and used advanced config tools and changed my theme! what other fun things can i do now?
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you can try this or this for now. Or this.
remember that mango was only released recently. There will be more customization apps developed soon.
WP7 im curious about a few things
the GUI:
What changes it? Roms or Themes? i see some WP7 phones on here that dont use tiles, but use a theme or a rom, which is it? how does it work?
Roms and Themes:
what does each do? From the android world, Roms did mostly everything... and themes changed like colors.. how about WP7?
unlocking:
unlocking from what i read allows non market apps, how about carrier unlocking? on some android phones (that have bootloaders unlocked) they can do some changing to the registry and do a carrier unlock, how about with WP7 phone?
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WP7 im curious about a few things
the GUI:
What changes it? Roms or Themes? i see some WP7 phones on here that dont use tiles, but use a theme or a rom, which is it? how does it work?
Roms and Themes:
what does each do? From the android world, Roms did mostly everything... and themes changed like colors.. how about WP7?
unlocking:
unlocking from what i read allows non market apps, how about carrier unlocking? on some android phones (that have bootloaders unlocked) they can do some changing to the registry and do a carrier unlock, how about with WP7 phone?
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Themes are color changes. Blue tiles, Green Tiles ect.
There are a few roms that will unlock your phone if loaded, but they still don't give you much customization control. The GUI in Windows Phone really can't be modded much.... but that also makes it secure.
I was a rom flasher in the older windows mobile days... i loved customizing the crap out of my phone (you'll find posts by me in the wizard, Tilt, and Pure forums). I really never used my phone though till i had windows phone. i just tinkered.
With Windows phone and live tiles, all the information is there immediatly or within 3 clicks. I check facebook without an app. i post pictures to facebook right from the camera. Things are so much quicker when they are integrated. I actually use the phone as it was ment to be. I don't have to worry about roms fixing one thing and breaking another as i did back in those days.
Pick one up, you'll have 30 days to return it. Use it at least 20. At 1st it's a system shock and you feel limited until you really get to dig into it and get how everything flows. Don't give up on it in the 1st week. It's completely different from android or iphone and change always seems frustrating at 1st.
ROMs are only available for HTC devices up to now
but some developers are working for the first Samsung custom ROM.
in the GUI you can change tiles colors.
all devices are unlockable, except lumias!
I hope to have been exhaustive
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I was a rom flasher in the older windows mobile days... i loved customizing the crap out of my phone (you'll find posts by me in the wizard, Tilt, and Pure forums). I really never used my phone though till i had windows phone. i just tinkered.
With Windows phone and live tiles, all the information is there immediatly or within 3 clicks. I check facebook without an app. i post pictures to facebook right from the camera. Things are so much quicker when they are integrated. I actually use the phone as it was ment to be. I don't have to worry about roms fixing one thing and breaking another as i did back in those days.
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Couldn't agree more. I've probably already said it a half-dozen times on these forums, but Windows Phone gave me my life back. The mantras "glance and go," "get in, get out, get on with your life," and "seriously?" are all VERY accurate.
My wife was 5 or 6 months pregnant and I was just launching a side business when I upgraded from a Tilt to a Samsung Focus (on a Titan now), and it was PERFECT timing to make the switch. I can't imagine juggling two jobs and a baby and still spending a few hours a week hunting for the perfect ROM. It may not do as much as an Android (or even some later WinMo phones), but there's not ONE thing that I feel that I'm missing personally, and for every feature it lacks there are a hundred features that it does SO WELL.
I think my favorite thing, apart from the beauty of Metro itself, is contact management and social integration. Being able to link my wife's Live contact/FB profile/Twitter handle and have one updating tile is amazing. Being able to change my status across several networks from the "Me" tile is awesome. I feel like my digital life (especially contacts and calendar) is finally unified and under control.
Thank you in advance. First of all I am still a beginner in knowledge here. My Alcatel fierce 4 TCL 5056N seems to have been hacked and is now being remotely accessed and controlled by an unauthorized 3rd party. I may be way off base but I think my phone may have been exposed to a R.A.T.. Temporarily rooted long enough for someone to modify the kernel and other system coding, which I cannot access myself with an unrooted phone, installing some sort of sub-OS with limited user setting options and a completely different named storage platform,( I.e. emulated, bdef55, self), and not even factory resetting my device helps because it reboots into the sub-OS they installed. They are screen overlaying buttons, and toggles are being reversed in real time before my eyes, settings and options are disappearing from one minute to the next and I've somehow found myself poking around in some windows software on a PC that is used to develop Android software, maybe sdk, not sure but was Linux coding and looked like it was meant for me. I was on the other end of this hack for a few minutes tho but my lack of knowledge made this useless to me. I have downloaded many an app trying to combat this issue but to no avail. Although unsuccessful I have seen a few thing I don't understand but could possibly be helpful for you to identify exactly what my issue is. One thing is an app I downloaded said that a trust cert has enabled a malicious trust agent and my system is being remotely accessed by a third party. The rest is beyond my understanding but I'm going to list a few tidbits you may recognize. LIB, Kinguser, kingroot, persist, unremovable/???/xxx, code Aurora, bootstrap something, libnfc, system/framework/Apache/xml, bin, user value=0 or 1/2, managed provisioning, also a .base ext. on a bunch of sytem apps below the same app without and a few of others. I don't know if that's helpful but it's all I can remember. Symptoms are apps closing on their own, microphone and camera being remotely enabled, unable to update Google play services or store and being forced to use an obviously older and modified version with possible replica apps with restrictions, unexpected reboots, in settings/apps/permissions apps like gallery, when you click battery and then the little i button for info, it says it's a system app and all of the sudden the disable and force close buttons become un-highlighted and unusable and so on and so forth. Lastly, my home wifi is infected I think as well because my roommate is having the same issues. I've tried(unsuccessfully) to root my phone so I could manually remove some of these apps and extra coding and such but it seems impossible because of a locked bootloader. Tried about 10 different ways without success so I've just about given up and smashed the damn thing but then you geniuses popped into my head so I beg of you, please help me or if nothing else, tell me to proceed with the smashing...lol! Thank you very much for your time. P. s. I'm new to XDA dev website so maybe drop me a line at [email protected] with directions back to this thread. Had a bit if trouble navigating here. Thanks again and have a great day! -Spencer
SO! I've escaped the blue bubble cult! And even though I really enjoyed jailbreak tweaks (what are even the equivalent of tweaks on android? lol) and theming on IOS, I don't really even know where to begin looking for info on doing similar things with android, and more specifically my oneplus 6, I'm excited but it's all a bit overwhelming. Any help? Any recommendations on where to begin?
Spectr7615 said:
SO! I've escaped the blue bubble cult! And even though I really enjoyed jailbreak tweaks (what are even the equivalent of tweaks on android? lol) and theming on IOS, I don't really even know where to begin looking for info on doing similar things with android, and more specifically my oneplus 6, I'm excited but it's all a bit overwhelming. Any help? Any recommendations on where to begin?
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Honestly, the first step for you is to figure out what exactly you want to do. Jumping headfirst to things on this OnePlus 6 without a gameplan sounds like a recipe for hard brick.
tabletalker7 said:
Honestly, the first step for you is to figure out what exactly you want to do. Jumping headfirst to things on this OnePlus 6 without a gameplan sounds like a recipe for hard brick.
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I'd just like to manipulate the UI, similar to some of the tweaks on IOS. I haven't used the phone enough to want to change much of its core functionality yet... So mostly surface level things for now. I also figure that would be a good place to start in terms of difficulty and knowledge as well.
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I'd just like to manipulate the UI, similar to some of the tweaks on IOS. I haven't used the phone enough to want to change much of its core functionality yet... So mostly surface level things for now. I also figure that would be a good place to start in terms of difficulty and knowledge as well.
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Tweaking the UI is seriously as simple as going to the google play store and downloading a launcher. No need to do anything drastic yet buddy. If I may, I would recommend "Nova Launcher". The free version on the play store will give you plenty of options to change your UI and I have been using it for years on several different phones. Forgive me but I know nothing about IOS - a closed source operating system on an item I payed money and purchased to use for my own desires seems silly to me.
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Tweaking the UI is seriously as simple as going to the google play store and downloading a launcher. No need to do anything drastic yet buddy. If I may, I would recommend "Nova Launcher". The free version on the play store will give you plenty of options to change your UI and I have been using it for years on several different phones. Forgive me but I know nothing about IOS - a closed source operating system on an item I payed money and purchased to use for my own desires seems silly to me.
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Yeah, it's one of many reasons I left after years. They made it increasingly more difficult to even sustain a jailbreak, on a device I overpaid for.. but I digress lol. Thanks for that tip, I remember using nova launcher years ago on one of my old galaxy phones, so I'll start there.
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Yeah, it's one of many reasons I left after years. They made it increasingly more difficult to even sustain a jailbreak, on a device I overpaid for.. but I digress lol. Thanks for that tip, I remember using nova launcher years ago on one of my old galaxy phones, so I'll start there.
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While I will happily walk you through the whole unlock bootloader, install TWRP, and obtain root access process for this phone, if you have been away from android for a long time you will find it much more difficult than it was on your old galaxy phone, so why go there with no real reason behind it.
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While I will happily walk you through the whole unlock bootloader, install TWRP, and obtain root access process for this phone, if you have been away from android for a long time you will find it much more difficult than it was on your old galaxy phone, so why go there with no real reason behind it.
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I've just decided to pretty much go through my jailbroken phone and see just what I'd like to carry from that setup over into my oneplus 6. Fortunately, most of system tweaks I had made on my iphone are baked into android already, so it's really coming down to theming as I look at it deeper. However some tweaks I used to use might require (please correct me if I'm wrong). For example, I used a tweak on my iphone that allowed me to create gestures. Plugging in headphones would open my music app, double pressing the power button turned on my flashlight, it was highly customizable, things like that.
Honestly if you are rocking OP6 just root with magisk, grab TWRP and that's it. Then explore your magisk module options, add adaway for systemwide ad blocker, download magisk youtube vanced that blocks ads and let you download directly , what else.... Substratum for theming ....
As others are getting at, take it one step at a time. Android gives you more flexibility than your old phone did, so you'll enjoy that. Rooting will give you further options.. I agree with the poster who said to try launchers. You can change the look of your phone in pretty dramatic ways with them. Different ones have different benefits. I use Action Launcher most of the time. There are lots of them and they can change the look and feel of your phone a lot without doing anything permanent or potentially damaging to your device. Change launchers and whatever you did with the last one is no longer visible. Go back to the stock Oxygen one at any time if you like.
If you like gestures, Oxygen gives you some. Other launchers, including the aforementioned Nova and Action do, too, albeit not necessarily the exact same ones. GMD Gestures takes it much further, but that requires root. It used to be one of the first things I installed on my phones and tablets. Navigation Gestures uses a different approach, more limited, but it doesn't require root.
Rooting requires unlocking your phone and flashing Magisk. This is not hard to do, but you need to connect your phone to your computer and use a command line to enable some of it. The procedure is simple enough, but if you haven't done it, it might seem daunting at first. But you've jailbroken, so you will probably be fine with all this. There are pitfalls with each device, which you can read about at length here in this phone's part of XDA.
Read up, take your time, and if you do root, make sure to read the guides carefully and do all the steps. Missing things or doing them out of order can cost you sometimes.
youre in for a surprise, enjoy the ride
I'm going to echo what some others have said and suggest you take it slow. I was jailbreaking from the 3G days so I know what you're thinking about doing. My wife still has an iPhone, and trust me, there are great many things you can do in terms of tweaks and theming without ever thinking about rooting. I'm a Nova Launcher loyalist as well, but there are dozens of great launchers out there. Try a bunch out, play around with themes, wallpapers, and icons to get a look you like, then start thinking about rooting.
Unlocking and rooting OP phones is much more straightforward than any other Android phones besides Pixels, so when you're ready to start, it's not that challenging. However – especially if you're coming from Samsung – forget everything you think you know and start reading the guides posted here. There is unfortunately a fair amount of bad and less-than-ideal information floating around about this phone. I'd recommend starting with these:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/how-to/guide-noobs-guide-to-b-partitions-op6-t3816123
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/how-to/guide-how-to-install-official-twrp-t3801558
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/how-to/oneplus-6-unlock-bootloader-flash-twrp-t3792643 [note that some of the info in this thread is obsolete/incorrect, so refer to the two above in any conflicts, but it's good for the very basics]
There are pre-rooted boot images you can use to gain root without getting custom recovery like twrp. But you will need to unlock your bootloader first. Like everyone else said, Android is much more flexible compared to iOS when it comes to customization.
The main reason why I rooted in the first place was to get Adaway which removes ads from your phone. Also YouTube Vanced like someone mentioned which removes ads from youtube videos.
Systemless root like Magisk which does not touch systemfiles is the way to go if you are gonna root your phone in the future.
It is very, very easy to brick your phone if you are not careful. Read the guides here on xda, check what OxygenOS version you are have and so on. Do not try to flash a older version, that will brick your phone.
A small tweak you can try right now is to first enable developer options by tapping your Build number under About phone in settings. From there, scroll down til you see something about animation (should be under Drawing). Set the three settings to either off or 0.5. That should speed things up.
Maybe you should NOT root your device and stick with stock save us all some headaches.
I come from an Jailbroken iPhone as well. I can do pretty much everything I could on my iPhone except see the amount of battery cycles and current wear.
Xposed has more modules than you'll know what to do with.
Combine that with all the customizations you can do without root like launchers, full UI and app theming with substratum, custom ROMs, magisk modules, TWRP flashable zips for some mods, etc.
There's SO much stuff you can tweak
Xposed has more modules than you'll know what to do with.
Combine that with all the customizations you can do without root like launchers, full UI and app theming with substratum, custom ROMs, magisk modules, TWRP flashable zips for some mods, etc.
There's SO much stuff you can tweak
Cydia -> Magisk and optionally Xposed
Winterboard -> Substratum