Hey guys.
So for the past month I've been trying to get the watch to work independently to make calls using the 4G version of the watch of course.
As the watch asks which number to text/call from I generally assumed it would be able to call using the number attached to the esim that was uploaded to it.
In the UK I'm with O2 and they currently only suggest using a data only SIM to remote connect to your phone in order to place a call.
I eventually convinced them to setup an esim with a minutes and SMS allowance but the watch suggested that only emergency calls were possible.
So my question is can the Watch 4 make calls using its own number without being connected to a phone whatsoever?
Sonic Dash said:
Hey guys.
So for the past month I've been trying to get the watch to work independently to make calls using the 4G version of the watch of course.
As the watch asks which number to text/call from I generally assumed it would be able to call using the number attached to the esim that was uploaded to it.
In the UK I'm with O2 and they currently only suggest using a data only SIM to remote connect to your phone in order to place a call.
I eventually convinced them to setup an esim with a minutes and SMS allowance but the watch suggested that only emergency calls were possible.
So my question is can the Watch 4 make calls using its own number without being connected to a phone whatsoever?
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Of course - that's what the LTE version is for.
Sonic Dash said:
Hey guys.
So for the past month I've been trying to get the watch to work independently to make calls using the 4G version of the watch of course.
As the watch asks which number to text/call from I generally assumed it would be able to call using the number attached to the esim that was uploaded to it.
In the UK I'm with O2 and they currently only suggest using a data only SIM to remote connect to your phone in order to place a call.
I eventually convinced them to setup an esim with a minutes and SMS allowance but the watch suggested that only emergency calls were possible.
So my question is can the Watch 4 make calls using its own number without being connected to a phone whatsoever?
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You need phone only first time to set up data plan. Without phone you can't directly add number to watch.
But once added (and you can add multiple) there is dependcy on phone.
You can store multiple plans on watch and switch it to required number directly from watch
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I have a personal phone on Tmobile and looking to get the S2 activated to get calls from my personal number. Do I need to have the watch synced to the phone on Tmobile for this to work? I also have a work phone on AT&T that I would like to connect to get Hangouts notifications on the watch if possible and not connect to my Tmobile phone.
I have T-Mobile and recently went ahead and got the service for my Gear s2 watch. In the Gear Manager app I turned on call forwarding and indicated the new phone # of the watch and all calls forwarded to the watch if I don't pick up my phone. I don't see the field there to call forward to 2 different phone #s. You can install Gear Manager on AT&T phone(if it is Android) and make it your main phone, then enable call forwarding to your watch . Before you do the above, you would need to do "light reset" of the watch in the settings to be able to connect to another phone. <- in all of my cases, it was required when I wanted to connect my watch to another phone.
Oh I didn't know the watch has its own phone number and that the calls needed to be forwarded. I guess I thought wrong that the watch could be stand alone using my same number.
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I signed up for the Tmobile Digits service which is supposed to work somewhat like AT&T's number sync. Basically it assigns the same phone number as your phone to your watch or more than one device. The theory is that when you use your phone in standalone mode the watch acts like your phone for texts and calls. So I signed up. Big mistake and I should have figured. How would I forward stuff from my phone to my own number on the watch.
So I sign up and first thing is that Tmobile does is change my watch number to something different than the phone so basically my watch is useless in standalone mode because the watch thinks it's another phone number that doesn't exist. I can't even make phone calls from the watch in standalone.
I call support and they forward me to a special group that handles the new digits program. I basically tell them to forget about it and change my number back to the old number and nobody at Tmobile can change my number back. My watch now has a phone number that doesn't exist and tmobile can't fix it. They supposedly sent it to it another group which may take a few days to correct the problem. Not only that, the rep told me that they were having issues with gear watches not working with the service because messaging forwarding doesn't work when the watch has the same number.
So I am basically SOL for a few days until they can change my watch back to the old number.
I am also on Digits. I thought the same thing when the Beta software changed my number on the S3. Actually it is way better than the current call forward setup. Your watch now virtually simulates your main phone number to your phone. When you are connected via BT you get all your calls, data, etc... through the phone. Say you forget or leave your phone, your watch is now on the mobile network (if you set your mobile network settings to auto). So if you get a call or text to your mobile phone it will simultaneously ring/arrive on both your phone and your watch. You don't have to remember to turn on call forwarding. You can no longer call your Gear S3 number, it is tied to the virtual number.
It is still in beta so there are some bugs, but so far I have been able to add my Gear S3, Gear S2, and my primary phone to the Digits Service. All 3 devices ring or receive text at the same time when someone calls/texts me.
Bladder61 said:
I am also on Digits. I thought the same thing when the Beta software changed my number on the S3. Actually it is way better than the current call forward setup. Your watch now virtually simulates your main phone number to your phone. When you are connected via BT you get all your calls, data, etc... through the phone. Say you forget or leave your phone, your watch is now on the mobile network (if you set your mobile network settings to auto). So if you get a call or text to your mobile phone it will simultaneously ring/arrive on both your phone and your watch. You don't have to remember to turn on call forwarding. You can no longer call your Gear S3 number, it is tied to the virtual number.
It is still in beta so there are some bugs, but so far I have been able to add my Gear S3, Gear S2, and my primary phone to the Digits Service. All 3 devices ring or receive text at the same time when someone calls/texts me.
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They're correct^^^
I had the exact same freak out and called into the department last week and they were so confused lol. Saw my sim numbers swapped on my account and the inability to dial out and had to explain everything to them, with them offering a potential fix upon more research.
I do agree with the above in terms of a better method of call forwarding when working with a non Samsung smartphone. I'm using an LG V20 and prior to Digits I would have to enable call forwarding if I knew I was planning to be away from my phone, not allowing me to forget my phone and remain connected.
However when using a Samsung smartphone, you have an auto call forwarding option in the Gear Manager app. I had my Note 5/S7E/Note 7 paired up to my Gear S2 Classic 3G and it would auto call forward upon being disconnected via Bluetooth, basically doing what Digits does without the virtual number.
Somehow my ability to dial out self resolved so now I'm digging this setup
Torridred04 said:
They're correct^^^
I had the exact same freak out and called into the department last week and they were so confused lol. Saw my sim numbers swapped on my account and the inability to dial out and had to explain everything to them, with them offering a potential fix upon more research.
I do agree with the above in terms of a better method of call forwarding when working with a non Samsung smartphone. I'm using an LG V20 and prior to Digits I would have to enable call forwarding if I knew I was planning to be away from my phone, not allowing me to forget my phone and remain connected.
However when using a Samsung smartphone, you have an auto call forwarding option in the Gear Manager app. I had my Note 5/S7E/Note 7 paired up to my Gear S2 Classic 3G and it would auto call forward upon being disconnected via Bluetooth, basically doing what Digits does without the virtual number.
Somehow my ability to dial out self resolved so now I'm digging this setup
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You may not be digging it when the beta expires and you have to start paying for it. Sometime in the Spring...
kronium said:
You may not be digging it when the beta expires and you have to start paying for it. Sometime in the Spring...
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This is the first week of beta testing. Issues are to be expected. Those (like me) who have no appetite for dealing with this shouldn't volunteer.
T-Mobile will figure it out. Sharing a number across devices will become a necessary linchpin as we become increasingly more connected.
T-Mobile won't charge much for Digits. AT&T and Verizon don't charge for their (admittedly less capable) service. And Google Voice, which Digits is modeled after, is also free.
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You may not be digging it when the beta expires and you have to start paying for it. Sometime in the Spring...
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Personally I'm not too worried. They state the service shouldn't cost much once it arrives, though I do feel they should issue the finished product free to beta testers for a limited time for our services.
If I go back to Samsung which is most likely, that will eliminate my need for it. If I don't, well the discount on my bill makes it dirt cheap that I'm not losing sleep over it. Perks of working at T-Mobile haha
Well all I know is that they changed my watch number to to some different number that doesn't exist on my account and nobody can correct it or change it back to the old way. I'm going on 3 days now and nobody can resolve the issue. I asked that they just take me off the beta and they can't even do that.
I understand that it's a beta and you live with the growing pains of bugs but PLEASE! They can't even take me off the program and restore my service back to normal! That means this is more of an Alpha than Beta stage! You don't release a Beta when you can't even get the basic functionality right!
Not to mention I am being sent numerous text messages that I added a new line to my account and when I call tmobile is clueless as to why I am getting those messages which I am sure it is due to digits.
Tmobile has nice customer service reps and great prices but when it comes to company communication and overall customer service experience they are clueless. I have never experienced a company more clueless and disorganized! I went through the Note fiasco with them and when I first started they shipped me like 10 iPads when I only ordered 1.
Sorry but Tmobile is a joke. I only stick with them because of convenience.
I'm having a great experience with the beta program so far, it's way better than the Samsung Auto forwarding. Because when I'm out and about and I make calls from the watch when the phone is at home it shows my actual phone number and not the watch phone number, and everything important is forwarded to my watch as well.
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In the beta digits program also I have my gear s3 and gear s tied to my original number. I have to wait for the gear s tho cause they are sending me a sim card I don't know why I can't use the one I already have in it.
Digits works well for me
I am really enjoying my digits experience. I frequently leave my phone at home or in the car on the charger. Before digits my calls would not always be forwarded from my s6 edge to my gear s2 causing me to miss calls at times. That defeated the purpose of me paying for the watch number. I also hated that in the event I left my phone at home and forwarding was not working people could not reach me on my watch had I not given them that number. I have no trouble placing calls from the watch in standalone mode. My only annoyance with the program is when I do go outside of Bluetooth range all my texts are synced to my watch, which I just do not need. I wish there was an option to turn this off or on since I do not need it but some people might. I will definitely keep digits provided it does not cost me much more than the watch line I pay for currently.
sorry I am late to the party, and this might be a dumb question (but the T-mobile special tech people can't seem to answer it)...
Do I cancel the Gear S2's service and then use its SIM to sign up for the beta? Or do I have to keep the service active? Cause that's what I did - kept the service, signed up for the beta with the SIM number, but nothing's happened and the watch still has its own number. Does it take a while to change over?
Thanks.
hawk1500 said:
sorry I am late to the party, and this might be a dumb question (but the T-mobile special tech people can't seem to answer it)...
Do I cancel the Gear S2's service and then use its SIM to sign up for the beta? Or do I have to keep the service active? Cause that's what I did - kept the service, signed up for the beta with the SIM number, but nothing's happened and the watch still has its own number. Does it take a while to change over?
Thanks.
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T-Mobile will send you a welcome to digits email and instructions on how to set up on your phone. It took 24 hours for me to get the email. You can also call t-mobile and ask to speak to the digits beta team and they will patch you through and the beta team can pull up your request and speed up the process.
Hope this is still relevant
hawk1500 said:
sorry I am late to the party, and this might be a dumb question (but the T-mobile special tech people can't seem to answer it)...
Do I cancel the Gear S2's service and then use its SIM to sign up for the beta? Or do I have to keep the service active? Cause that's what I did - kept the service, signed up for the beta with the SIM number, but nothing's happened and the watch still has its own number. Does it take a while to change over?
Thanks.
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So I was paying for watch plan when I signed up for digits beta. Tmobile was more than happy for me to keep paying. However I was having issues with digits not working and still missing calls. Finally I got someone on the phone that knew that I didn't need the watch line I only needed the digits line. Has worked great since they stopped the watch line and linked my digits with my phone. The digits line incluse so many my of data which is why the separate watch plan is unneeded.
I have a few questions regarding GW4 LTE. In my country, it looks like the carrier doesn't support number sharing, so I'll have to set up the watch with a different phone number. My questions are:
1) what happens when I send new texts and calls from the watch on LTE - they will show up with the watch's number?
2) what happens when my phone gets a text sms - will I be able to respond on the watch? If yes, with the phone number or the watch's?
My guess would be the watch number for question 1 and phone number for question 2, but please help me out.
It's going to make a mess on your phone....that's my guess
efrank99 said:
I have a few questions regarding GW4 LTE. In my country, it looks like the carrier doesn't support number sharing, so I'll have to set up the watch with a different phone number. My questions are:
1) what happens when I send new texts and calls from the watch on LTE - they will show up with the watch's number?
2) what happens when my phone gets a text sms - will I be able to respond on the watch? If yes, with the phone number or the watch's?
My guess would be the watch number for question 1 and phone number for question 2, but please help me out.
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I walk with just my watch in LTE only, on a separate line with my carrier. I receive texts without issue and answer them without issue. My wife would not respond to a text she doesn't know, so it sends my phone's number and not my watch as far as I know. Have not called anyone in LTE mode yet.
kbboykin said:
I walk with just my watch in LTE only, on a separate line with my carrier. I receive texts without issue and answer them without issue. My wife would not respond to a text she doesn't know, so it sends my phone's number and not my watch as far as I know. Have not called anyone in LTE mode yet.
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Thank you for this answer. Can you try to make a call and let me know what number is going to show? I have to decide whether to activate a data only line or an entirely new one.
efrank99 said:
Thank you for this answer. Can you try to make a call and let me know what number is going to show? I have to decide whether to activate a data only line or an entirely new one.
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Today, while out walking without my phone, I placed a call to my spare iPhone and it came up with my phone's number, not the watch number. I was using my Watch 3. I'll test also on the Watch 4 within the next 2-3 days.
kbboykin said:
Today, while out walking without my phone, I placed a call to my spare iPhone and it came up with my phone's number, not the watch number. I was using my Watch 3. I'll test also on the Watch 4 within the next 2-3 days.
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Thanks. If this is the case, there is an upside (you don't need the carrier to support number sharing) and a downside (your main phone needs to be charged and connected to the network, otherwise calls and texts won't work). Some users reported that the watch 4 will use its separate number, or at least that's what i have heard.
I've manage to get a UK Vodafone PAYG sim transfered to esim and loaded onto my watch 4.
This works fine receiving and making voice calls, sending txt messages, but it won't received an incoming txt message directly to the watches esim number.
Anyone know why not?
It was possible on my previous LG Watch Sport with microsim.
Thanks.
Have you installed Google Messages from the play store? That allows me to switch from phone to watch number for reading and sending texts.
I've discovered with the right settings selected in the wear app, as long as my phone is switched on, I still receive txt messages sent to my phones sim number on my watch, as long as my watch is connected to the Internet either by WiFi or LTE.
Also I can send a txt from my watch, using the phone sim number, again as long as connected by either WiFi or LTE.
That's pretty cool when away from my phones Bluetooth connection, especially when LTE automatically switches itself on when it looses Bluetooth connection from my phone.
Therefore I don't really need to be able to use the watches sim number for txt messages.
stag74 said:
I've discovered with the right settings selected in the wear app, as long as my phone is switched on, I still receive txt messages sent to my phones sim number on my watch, as long as my watch is connected to the Internet either by WiFi or LTE.
Also I can send a txt from my watch, using the phone sim number, again as long as connected by either WiFi or LTE.
That's pretty cool when away from my phones Bluetooth connection, especially when LTE automatically switches itself on when it looses Bluetooth connection from my phone.
Therefore I don't really need to be able to use the watches sim number for txt messages.
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Yes, that's the way I've been doing it for Galaxy 4 on TMobile
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Have a Watch 5 Pro LTE model activated with an eSIM, paired to a Samsung S21 Ultra.
Can receive calls and have data connection via the eSIM with the phone off/out of range/Bluetooth off.
Cannot send or receive text messages independently.
Any suggestions?
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Hi, I read somewhere that texts can be sent using the Google messenger app. Does your phone and watch have the same number? If not, does the watch ring when the phone receives a call and is out of BT range?
Have you checked with your provider? Because you should be able to. I will find out tomorrow, once mine arrives.
Watch rings when out of range / phone off etc. Has it's own data independent of bluetooth or WiFi.
Odd development since posting. Have managed to get Watch to send text on it's own but it uses it's own number despite the phone part having the same number as phone. Completely different number.
Completely convoluted process to make it work. If bluetooth is switch on on the watch it doesn't appear to try to connect via WiFi unless you go into the set up and connect to a network. Only way I can get it to send text independently is to totally switch off bluetooth and WiFi on the watch.
Returning the watch and hoping next one behaves better.
MobileBritain said:
Hi
Have a Watch 5 Pro LTE model activated with an eSIM, paired to a Samsung S21 Ultra.
Can receive calls and have data connection via the eSIM with the phone off/out of range/Bluetooth off.
Cannot send or receive text messages independently.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
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Hi.
Check the settings in the account of your mobile provider. vodafone, telekom, o2, whatever.
You can select which eSIM can receive and send SMS-Messages.
I am using three eSIMs and I can only select one eSIM/SIM in total to receive/send SMS with my german provider o2/telefonica.
I guess it's the same with your provider settings.
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Hi Pundy
I only have one eSIM which is meant to be paired with the physical SIM used in the phone. The call and text allowance comes out of the physical SIM account but it has it's own data allowance. My provider doesn't appear to be sophisticated enough to allow the configuration you suggest.
Cheers
I just got the Watch 5 LTE and haven't set it up with an eSIM yet, but I wondered if calls and text work like they work on my Samsung Tablet, the data connection or WiFi let's the phone forward calls and texts with the "Calls and texts on other devices" program. Then it would switch to the eSIM number if the phone was turned off or offline?