I recently got a Pixel 4a 5g and originally tried GrapheneOS and now I'm on Calyx. The issue I have is the stock texting app on either OS does not support group texting which I use a lot with my family. So I had to find a 3rd party app, found QKSMS which supports group texting.
However I don't know if this is an OS or app issue, but at random, I will get old texts back. It will basically be as if it's a new text, but it's an old conversation that just replays itself. It's super annoying and also confusing because sometimes at first I think it's a real text I just got.
Is there a way to make this stop? I'm also open to suggestions on an alternate app but it needs to be something that's in the F droid store, since I don't really want to put Google play on here as it kind of defeats the purpose of having a privacy oriented phone if I start putting apps that spy on me.
I also want to stick with SMS/MMS and not signal etc, because not everybody uses all the same chat app, but SMS is just universal. Everyone I know uses it.
Anyone else ever run into this and found a fix?
Just bumping, hoping someone has a pointer for how I can troubleshoot this?
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Hi guys!
I know there is a way to create a Chrome extension which, when clicked, launches an app on the phone that vibrates the phone and plays a sound file at the loudest volume, so I can find it. Like Chrome to phone but with a different purpose.
This would be a great app for those times when you need to go but just can't find your phone even though you know it is somewhere in the home. With just the press of a button you could hear (or feel, if it's very close to you) where it is! No need to use another phone to call yours or run around the apartment getting all tired and angry!
Personally I would have used it like eight times since I came up with the idea, but I don't know Android programming or HTML (for the extension) so I can't create it myself.
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and a couple of other apps already do this. They take a sms message and crank up the volume.
arw01 said:
and a couple of other apps already do this. They take a sms message and crank up the volume.
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That's great for some people (with unlimited SMS), but unfortunately I haven't got unlimited SMS (nor do I always have access to a second phone. If I did though I would probably call my phone instead as this request is for finding the phone when you know it is somewhere near but don't have the patience to run around and search for it)
The app I want doesn't use SMS messages for launching the app but the Cloud-to-device service introduced with Android 2.2 and at the moment only available to a small but growing number of devices.
I use the Chrome to phone app & ext (code dot google dot com/p/chrometophone) on my Nexus and although it doesn't work every time when it does work it feels like magic!
I thought it would feel as much if not even more like magic if you could use this new service to find your phone with ease. I don't need it to have all the (for some) great features like showing where the phone is on a Google map or wiping important data if it's lost, I've got other apps for that.
I want this app to be as simple as it possibly can be, again like Chrome to phone:
Setting up: Download, Register phone, Be logged into Google account, done!
Use: Be logged into Google account, click extension button, wait a sec, phone rings, done!
Now does anyone here know how to create this app or where to request it to increase the chances of it getting past the idea stage and into something usable? It would surely make my day!
So I got bombarded with 2 different sets of group texts from 2 different sets of friends who are iphone users and after the frustrating ordeal I decided to do some serious research.
Here's what I found (mods please move this if its in the wrong place) :
The state of affairs and summary aka the Short Version:
A couple of people are working on an OS level version for ASOP (not the Google core team frustringly and unfortunately).
Use Go SMS Pro or Handcent whichever one works better for you now.
I'm writing this post as a cry for help for those working on this though I'm not affiliated, just somewhat of an informed spectator.
Resource links:
Link of thread from person who has made the most progress:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve.../207431-group-text-messaging-jb-achieved.html
And their github: https://github.com/vivekvasani
Google Groups Discussion:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/android-contrib/Oh254kDdCas
Google Code Feature Request:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24468
background xda threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774990
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441941
(if you don't want to read about the whole process and my rant you can stop here...)
The Long Journey Version:
The quest to get this done as far as I can tell began with this xda thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774990
And 2 years later a member of our commmunity (who join specically to post about this as you can see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21539987#post21539987 )
Created a Google Code Feature Request: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24468
though many had questions about it before. This was probably what really set things in motion for a solution.
The standard answer to those with desire to have group / threaded mms chat on android has been to use Handcent or Go Sms...
No matter where you look be it here on xda, andriodcentral, droidforums, you name it.
Handcent was the first on the the scene with this working: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1559824
Go Sms a few months later: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1680704
And to prempt all the use <GroupMe/Whatsapp/etc.> posts... I tried to get my friends to do that and they weren't having it. Immediately just started sending new mms group chats :/
And I mean can you blame them? Why install a new app when it just works for you by default?
And I'm an old school smartphone hacker (talking flashing windows mobile 5 roms) who loves a good dig into this kind of stuff; so here was a shiny new thing to hack
My personal story:
For reference I had started this journey on a Sprint HTC Evo 4G and more recently got the Evo 4G LTE which I am on now.
Handcent
I had been using handcent since their inital 4.0 release with the feature but then it started screwing up on me in a number of ways which I reported to them in an email.
the just of which is this:
So I would send messages to the thread and one of several things would happen:
1) it would just eat the message (that is to say it I would press send the message would disappear from the text box like it was going to send and then just do nothing. My friends would say they never got the message)
2) it would work flawlessly (messages disappears from textbox. shows up in green in the thread. friends respond normally)
3) it would wait a while and then finally show up in the original thread
4) it would wait a while then open a new thread to send the message (friends would be confused about new thread, but since they aren't as technical as me about software just carry on with convo in original thread. Confusing us all. It would show up as a new thread on their phones too though )
5) it would wait a while then give up (message would show back up in text box as if I had saved it as a draft)
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But the problems were only on the sending side. All messages sent to the group would show up in a group thread prorperly.
Go SMS
So I decided to try out Go Sms. And with it sending works flawless for me but... threading not at all. Every message that is supposed to be in the thread would show up in each indivudual sender's thread...
So I had an epiphany. I could have handcent do the downloading and threading... and have Go Sms do the sending. Which worked like a charm for about a day...
The Event or the reason you are reading this long post
Then the phone crashed... and after a restart things looked fine but then it happened.
I have two 2 different groups threads going one with 6 people in and one with 8.
They all had stuff they wanted to talk about today. Here was the ultimate test for the system right? Failed miserably.
Right now I've got about 8 threads with varying texts that should only be in 2 threads.
I was furious. Its crazy annoying when a conversation is going on and you can't figure out the context properly with that many people. Luckily I had the old threads that had worked to respond in but the new messages were all over the place.
I think uninstalling and then reisntalling first Handcent then Go SMS got it back working again but if I have to do that alot it will get annoying because these groups aren't going anywhere.
And this whole mess is a band aid. Not a solution.
Research time.
I need to know why this isn't working.
I mean long press one of those messages. Long story short it is an mms with extra numbers in the to: field.
Or even simpler all an MMS is a text file with some xml tags tossed in there for metadata. Your carrier sends you an sms with a link in it for where to download the text file from.
This cannot be that hard to fix and if it is I want to know why.
Google (search) time.
I searched for the Google Code thread I had seen a while back first. http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24468
843 stars. Many comments by people just as baffled as me this isn't done already.
I even have a post there asking about where the code is so I could try to poke around.
Then I remembered I had just had a good conversation with one of the chrome developer tools devs on Google Groups so I decided to look there too
More info: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/android-contrib/Oh254kDdCas
Apparently a guy tweeted the person who is the lead Google Employee over AOSP and he told him to post there. Then the thread got closed because they had no soultion...
BUT wait! There is hope!
Shortly after that, a guy started working on a solution. Check his stuff out here.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...07431-group-text-messaging-jb-achieved-2.html
And this person is freaking amazing because he has gotten this far with little prior knowledge of the project, java, android, git or gerrit to begin with.
Here is also the github where he is working on his stuff https://github.com/vivekvasani
And the trails ends there.
His last commit was about 2 weeks ago and he was asked to contribute it to master a 3 days ago
I'm posting all this to say if there is anyone out there listening who cares and can help this guy get this done please do.
Its ludicrous that we don't have this completely solved yet.
Thanks for you time,
Will
Same problem here. A good portion of my friends are iPhone users, and they love to group text. I'll have to keep my eye on this one. Thanks for doing the research!
Talamor said:
Same problem here. A good portion of my friends are iPhone users, and they love to group text. I'll have to keep my eye on this one. Thanks for doing the research!
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You're welcome. Thanks for appreciating it.
And I've got it pretty stably working now.
Here's my setup:
1) Install Handcent first.
2) Make it default sms provider.
3) Turn on threading (it does this really well)
4) Install Go Sms
5) Set it's (Go Sms) option to send group mms in the send settings (its sending works well)
6) disable notifications in handcent if you don't want double notifications
7) MAKE SURE to disable popups in both programs
- I think this is what was causing the fc's and the crashing. They both try to access the sender's thread and download the mms to get the text but have to fight over access.
Just as a side note the MMS app on recent Motorola phones does group messaging perfectly. On my RAZR MAXX both the GB and now the ICS version is great. My iPhone friends use it all the time and it does it perfectly. No issues with lost messages or miss-threaded messages. Same for my friend using an Atrix 2 (on AT&T)
Perhaps someone can rip the APK for other people to use?
Also Verizon wireless in the US offers a SMS/MMS app for free on Google Play that also does group messages. I used to use this on my older phone which didn't naively support it.... sadly it won't install on non Verizon phones but perhaps someone can port that? I'm quite sure this is nothing but an artificial limitation.
williscool said:
You're welcome. Thanks for appreciating it.
And I've got it pretty stably working now.
Here's my setup:
1) Install Handcent first.
2) Make it default sms provider.
3) Turn on threading (it does this really well)
4) Install Go Sms
5) Set it's (Go Sms) option to send group mms in the send settings (its sending works well)
6) disable notifications in handcent if you don't want double notifications
7) MAKE SURE to disable popups in both programs
- I think this is what was causing the fc's and the crashing. They both try to access the sender's thread and download the mms to get the text but have to fight over access.
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:/ I'd really rather use the default android messaging app. I'd just like it to be able to do group texts. I'd love it if this enhancement ended up in CM10 or something. Did I misunderstand your original post? I thought you were saying that someone was working on a modified version of the default messaging app that would be able to handle group texts.
And adrianblack, you're saying that the default messaging app handles SMS/MMS group texts? That sounds pretty much exactly like what I'm looking for. Only issue is that I think a lot of the apps on the stock roms (i.e. non AOSP) are pretty tied in to those particular roms. Which is why they can't just port the camera or contacts from sense and put it on the Galaxy Nexus. Without the rom behind it, the apps won't run. Hopefully the messaging app on the RAZR MAXX isn't like that. Or, at the very least, it'll give someone something to reverse engineer in order to get the AOSP messaging app working with group texts.
Nope no misunderstanding.
Its just not done yet.
You can check out those threads I linked to.
The guy got it working but it hasn't been merged in anywhere.
Which means nobody in any of the release teams has tested it which means it will probably be a while before you could just download or flash it.
I was just sharing my, admittedly kludgy, way of having it work now
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:/ I'd really rather use the default android messaging app. I'd just like it to be able to do group texts. I'd love it if this enhancement ended up in CM10 or something. Did I misunderstand your original post? I thought you were saying that someone was working on a modified version of the default messaging app that would be able to handle group texts.
And adrianblack, you're saying that the default messaging app handles SMS/MMS group texts? That sounds pretty much exactly like what I'm looking for. Only issue is that I think a lot of the apps on the stock roms (i.e. non AOSP) are pretty tied in to those particular roms. Which is why they can't just port the camera or contacts from sense and put it on the Galaxy Nexus. Without the rom behind it, the apps won't run. Hopefully the messaging app on the RAZR MAXX isn't like that. Or, at the very least, it'll give someone something to reverse engineer in order to get the AOSP messaging app working with group texts.
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I hope it gets merged with CM soon. Both Go SMS and Handcent suck.
just recently found out about handcent working with group MMS, cannot wait to have this in CM10!
From the androidcentral thread linked in op, there are at least two CM10 nightly based ROMs with Vivek Vasani's (playa1257) changes included:
One from invisiblek and the other by euroskank
I've seen some threads thath this has been added to the AOSP JB 4.2 messaging app (sorry for no links. I'm a new user).
Can anyone confirm?
Has this issue been fixed yet? I do a lot of group texts with several different people (for my job mainly) and have been using GO SMS on an EVO3D for some time now. It doesn't work terribly (still slow though) when it is only 1 or 2 messages at a time (as long as I am in a good service area or else it doesn't work for ****) but when the messages come flying in (or god forbid I have more than 1 text chain going at once) the phone lags so badly that it is unusable. I can't see the messages and can't even get a message out because the phone is so busy processing the incoming messages. It freezes the phone until the activity settles down.
Is this a problem on ALL Android phones or is it because I have an older EVO3D? I am going to be purchasing a new phone in the near future and if group texting isn't even working on the flagship phones I am afraid I am going to have to jump ship to the iphone. Can anyone provide an update as to the status of group text on Android flagship phones?
I am looking for a cheap, preferably free, app to spy on my wife. I saw her doing something the other day and want to know what she was looking at while she was doing it. At this point I would be happy with a remote screen shot that emails a coupel times a day or something like that. I know she uses go sms for texting and that she uses facebook chat, saw her sliding something around on the phone and she said it was the new facebook chat. I don't use facebook because of somethings that have happened in the past. I canhave no idea what else she uses it's "none of my business" what she does on her phone. The ap must be hidden, the way I will be able to install it is her phone is rooted and keeps promting for an update, so I can install something while I'm doing the update, but nothing very extensive at all to set it up. I want screen shots becuse I don't know if she is video chating, or looking at stuff on the internet or what, so the safest way the find out is screenshots, like every minute or five. Key logger might come in handy too. I appretiate any help you give.
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I am looking for a cheap, preferably free, app to spy on my wife. I saw her doing something the other day and want to know what she was looking at while she was doing it. At this point I would be happy with a remote screen shot that emails a coupel times a day or something like that. I know she uses go sms for texting and that she uses facebook chat, saw her sliding something around on the phone and she said it was the new facebook chat. I don't use facebook because of somethings that have happened in the past. I canhave no idea what else she uses it's "none of my business" what she does on her phone. The ap must be hidden, the way I will be able to install it is her phone is rooted and keeps promting for an update, so I can install something while I'm doing the update, but nothing very extensive at all to set it up. I want screen shots becuse I don't know if she is video chating, or looking at stuff on the internet or what, so the safest way the find out is screenshots, like every minute or five. Key logger might come in handy too. I appretiate any help you give.
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Did you ever find anything??? I’m looking for something similar
First off, I love this phone and reason why I got the Q China version was because it had the 6GB RAM which the 5 pro does not have with a price gap difference. 90% of this phone is perfect, the other 10% I can live with and hopefully they will make these changes in future updates. For you all looking at this Q model in North America, might want consider this before you get the Q version.
1. Using 3rd party messaging apps, this is basic stuff, why would any company lock you from using another sms app other then the stock one, this is only on the Q models I believe. It's like I'm back using and Iphone again lol. If you go the default settings, it will not list any other installed messaging app. I've been using ChompSMS for years and I love it, not I'm stuck using Q's messaging app, which is not bad but no where close to Chomp. Also, if I'm forced to use their messaging app, at the very least make it more customizable, ie. separate contact tones, pop up quick reply window etc. In ColorOS 6, it use to not even allow me to use another launcher but that got changed/fixed in UI 1.0, thank God, now you can use Nova Prime or your own launcher.
2. PC SMS, I work from home and use my PC to text constantly either with PushBullet or MightyText, with this Messaging app constriction, every time use these PC apps, it asks for a TXT message verification on my phone either face id or fingerprint, kind of defeats the purpose of texting on your PC. I wish there was away around this or a setting, I've looked everywhere in the phone settings and set every damn permission, nope.
3. Startup Manager... great idea to reduce battery use, but only limit to 5? come on. At least give us the option to set how many start up limits we want and just give us a warning that the more we use the more power it drains. Again, back to the Iphone days lol.
Other then these, I'm keeping my phone for all the pros, it's fast, screen looks good, these things are just really annoyances that I hope Oppo/RealMe or whoever will fix in the next OS update. I've seen some post of using custom rom on this Q model but also seeing a lot of glitches, I don't think it's worth having this issues for these minor annoyances. I've been using custom roms on other phones and tablets for years now, some with great luck and some I almost end up throwing the device through my window due to custom rom glitches lol.
If anyone finds a solution(s) for these annoyances other then using custom ROMS, please let me know I'll buy you a coffee and donuts lol.
Sorry, i can't read all of this!!!!
Plz make a short thread
hsm90 said:
Sorry, i can't read all of this!!!!
Plz make a short thread
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This is the short version lol How are you not able to read all of this?
I am trying to figure out if my boyfriend is tunneling his messages or Facebook chat somehow... I'm not very techsavy. Does this kind of thing actually exist for a regular lg phone? Okay so It looks like whenever he unlocks his phone he will sometimes use two different codes like he has one phone two users. One he shows me without all his real incoming messages. And then his storage is always full on his phone but he hardly has any music or pics. He has some casino apps. One I found in his list said in the default app casino.imitation.app is that a vault app or what?
Yes it is possible. I don't know how lg has it implemented or what phone he is using, but there are multiple users in android that you can switch. If lg doesn't have that feature it could be done with a system modification. Since this a real life trust problem I suggest that you talk to somebody that can help, somebody like a psychologist.
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I am trying to figure out if my boyfriend is tunneling his messages or Facebook chat somehow... I'm not very techsavy. Does this kind of thing actually exist for a regular lg phone? Okay so It looks like whenever he unlocks his phone he will sometimes use two different codes like he has one phone two users. One he shows me without all his real incoming messages. And then his storage is always full on his phone but he hardly has any music or pics. He has some casino apps. One I found in his list said in the default app casino.imitation.app is that a vault app or what?
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Stop. Why not just talk to him, and if the trust is an issue, then your relationship is also....
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