I'm looking for a new phone to replace my "old" OnePlus 8 Pro who's display isn't happy anymore and I also need something with good stock UI cause for my new job I need a locked bootloader so no Evolution X or whatever anymore.
I like One UI the most having had a Note 3, 5 and 9 in the past.
So, if between the S21+ and S20 Ultra, at the same price, which one would you recommend?
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I was more hoping for some real world experience based recommendations. I know the theoretical and spec differences but I wanna know what people think real-world.
Such evaluations are always subjective, do not have to correspond to device's specs, to serious benchmark tests. Personally I never would rely on such evaluations.
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I bought one for a family member. I ha e s21 ultra. I think the a52 is a fantastic device. It hardly feels any different to my s21. A few things missing (dex, wireless charging, 100 million x useless zoom etc). For $350 it's outstanding.
To be frank, I was close to chose A52 over S20 FE but S20 FE just head the things that were more important to me and at a given price, the best choice.
However, as someone who used A50 for the last two years, I would recommend anyone to go with A52, rather than A70+ (whatever people say, A50s get much bigger improvement and power with each version than A70s which are more expensive for less gain)
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To be frank, I was close to chose A52 over S20 FE but S20 FE just head the things that were more important to me and at a given price, the best choice.
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I was also choosing between the A52 and the S20 FE.
Picked the A52, it came down to four things:
Price, I could comfortably afford the S20 FE 4G max.
SoC, S720G is weaker compared to the Exynos but it's not as dramatic of a difference as with the S720G vs the S855 or S865 and it's way more battery efficient.
S20 FE's digitizer issues, I'm not spending that much money to have a subpar experience with ghost touches.
Software support, the A52 just launched with Android 11, it'll get one more Android version and a year more of security updates.
I also went for the A52 LTE, I don't care about 5G and the SoC difference wasn't nearly enough to justify the extra cost of the A52 5G.
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I was also choosing between the A52 and the S20 FE.
Picked the A52, it came down to four things:
Price, I could comfortably afford the S20 FE 4G max.
SoC, S720G is weaker compared to the Exynos but it's not as dramatic of a difference as with the S720G vs the S855 or S865 and it's way more battery efficient.
S20 FE's digitizer issues, I'm not spending that much money to have a subpar experience with ghost touches.
Software support, the A52 just launched with Android 11, it'll get one more Android version and a year more of security updates.
I also went for the A52 LTE, I don't care about 5G and the SoC difference wasn't nearly enough to justify the extra cost of the A52 5G.
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The thing is, I don't care about SoC Exynos990 does more than a fine job for me (including gaming, some of which are demanding games, with barely any noticeable difference in performance ) , battery is holding off the entire day which is another thing that is more than enough, considering everything.
Digitizer issues never experienced, as far as I am concerned those are defects a few units had and the majority didn't.
I am not getting hung up on Android OS, since it's covered 3 versions (until android 13), which by that time I will be replacing the phone anyways, with an upgraded model. Or in case I don't for some reason, there will be polished and much better kernel optimized custom roms on XDA that will likely keep up to the latest Android version.
And I had a chance to test A52 in comparison to my choice, guess what? S20 FE 4G just fairs much better, despite so-called subpar SoC and etc in every area. (not benchmarks and etc, the actual real experience). And as for security updates, they will be roll out as part of Google play OS upgrades, pushed from Google mainstream pipeline, so you will never have to worry about security upgrades - even if we don't get major OS updates past 3 Android versions, security updates are no brainer
There is however caveat to all of this. A52 is an incredible budget phone that I would recommend to everyone who is on the verge of buying (especially for those who are upgrading from A50-51). It cuts pretty close to high end model for really affordable price
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I am confused between OnePlus 9 Pro and Samsung Galaxy S21+ (Exynos variant).
Please help me choose.
The S21 is costing me INR 2000 extra, but with the current offer running I am also getting a Samsung Active2 watch for INR 990.
I would have chosen 9 Pro, but I am concerned with the negative feedback about heating issues and camera quality not being up to the mark.
I have the S21+ and our weather is similar to India and it's always warm and easy to overheat, don't get it. I don't know if the Oneplus is better or not
Hello everyone. I wanna buy S21 Ultra but its expensive at the moment, so after researching I thought why not go for the s20 ultra instead because its cheaper. It will still get updates for few years. I am a basic user, dont play games at all, but do care about display and camera. I recently used s10 and pixel 4 xl and i was blown away by the s10 display compared to pixel 4 xl. I want a great camera phone as well. But before pulling the trigger, I have few questions and would appreciate if they r answered satisfactorily;
1. Is s20 ultra (Snapdragon) worth it in 2021 over s21 ultra if you take into account the prices?
2. Is the S20 ultra way behind s21 ultra in the camera department?
Shall be grateful for the feedback.
My carrier just messaged me about their offer for all new Galaxy S22 models with 200€ off from the retail price for S22/S22+ and 250€ off for the S22 Ultra + free Galaxy Buds Pros. With this the S22 Ultra 128GB 5G model would be 1049€, 256GB 5G model 1149€ and the 512GB 5G model 1249€ (all of these are available for interest free payments up to 3 years and the phones are not being bootloader/carrier locked). Is this actually a good offer or should I pass it given that I live in the EU and the model I would get is going to be Exynos 2200 device anyway (which is most likely going to be not as good as the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 variant)?
Hard to say with zero user feedback. Samsung has been having issues with many of their variable rate displays as are most of the manufacturers using this technology.
Right off the get there's no SD card so you better get the 512gb variant. The spen is in an awkward side unless you're a lefty.
You might want the larger Plus size if you want screen real estate to play with.
The Snapdragon question and what the heat sink differences might be if any will be only fully answered in the future.
Samsung should have another flagship release this fall. Personally the S22U isn't giving me any tangible incentives to own it over my N10+'s. Not even a wash; the tradeoffs outweigh the benefits for me.
The N20U was a close and tougher call to make.
2023 may be a better year to buy. I'm pacing it for 2023-2024 if I like what I see.
Both the N10+ and the N20U can be had at good prices. Used and new ones are available but be careful if you do as there's a lot of scamming is going on. The N10+ is still a great phone and both these Notes support up to 1tb of V30 rated storage. The new N10+'s come loaded with 10, the N20U's likely 11. I'm not concerned with updates but if you are factor that in; the N10+'s limit is Android 12, the N20U's is 13 maybe 14(?) I think.
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My carrier just messaged me about their offer for all new Galaxy S22 models with 200€ off from the retail price for S22/S22+ and 250€ off for the S22 Ultra + free Galaxy Buds Pros. With this the S22 Ultra 128GB 5G model would be 1049€, 256GB 5G model 1149€ and the 512GB 5G model 1249€ (all of these are available for interest free payments up to 3 years and the phones are not being bootloader/carrier locked). Is this actually a good offer or should I pass it given that I live in the EU and the model I would get is going to be Exynos 2200 device anyway (which is most likely going to be not as good as the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 variant)?
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I would say it depends on which device you come from.. If you currently have a Note 20 Ultra or S21 Ultra, I would wait a bit before committing. Last year I actually went from Note 20 Ultra to S21 Ultra (I know, stupid), and I regretted it at first but then loved it. If you are coming from an older device, then yeah go for it.
I came across with two tests today comparing the both processors. Though some people would be interested. I would also like to see the both phones users confirming the results on their side. 3DMark Wild Life scores on the other hand are a bit disappointing for Exynos. I have currently ordered an Exynos version and still have time to cancel it. What would you recommend?
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I came across with two tests today comparing the both processors. Though some people would be interested. I would also like to see the both phones users confirming the results on their side. 3DMark Wild Life scores on the other hand are a bit disappointing for Exynos. I have currently ordered an Exynos version and still have time to cancel it. What would you recommend?
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I would definitely keep your order running.
I had both versions of the S21 ultra.
Im not playing games, but use my phones a lot... And to be honest, i couldn't feel or see any difference.
I pre-order the S22 ultra to in the Exynos version without any concerns vs the SD version.
I have the Tab S7 to and never had any problems.
This is just my humble opinion
Per Tom's Hardware:
Ice Universe says that the AMD RNDA2 GPU part of the Exynos SoC has a target clock speed of 1.9 GHz. However, in practice, due to thermal issues, it could only run at 1.29 GHz, in an acceptable manner. Various clocks between 1.29 GHz and 1.9 GHz were tested, goes the tale, but the lesser speed was the first with acceptable thermals. The actual temperatures are not revealed, instead we learn that all for speeds greater than 1.29 GHz, they are "hot".
Ice Universe has some further interesting info about what Samsung is trying now that it has hit that thermal throttling performance wall. According to Ice Universe's leak, Samsung is going to try and tweak things to get the GPU running acceptably at 1.49GHz "to restore some dignity".
I've used both of them and based on my experience, Snapdragon is always better. It gives you stable performance and often supports bootloader unlocking.
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I've used both of them and based on my experience, Snapdragon is always better. It gives you stable performance and often supports bootloader unlocking.
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"Snapdragon often supports bootloader unlocking" Not on S Series devices, much wider availability on Exynos variants. Only one Snapdragon variant offered bootloader access on the S21 Ultra, SM-G9980.
You would find More developers working on snap dragon than Exynos to bring custom ROMS. If you see devices such as Poco F1, OnePlus 8T and X3 Pro you would find almost every custom from working on them.
This is a S22 Ultra Forum, we're not discussing a bunch of cheap Chinese phones nor is the OP asking questions about them. What does your response have do with the unlocked bootloaders on S Series variants? Exynos devices have far more development and custom ROM's on S Series than Snapdragon. In reality development is declining with Samsung devices, Android 12 and OneUI 4 has made it far more challenging to implement custom platforms.
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I came across with two tests today comparing the both processors. Though some people would be interested. I would also like to see the both phones users confirming the results on their side. 3DMark Wild Life scores on the other hand are a bit disappointing for Exynos. I have currently ordered an Exynos version and still have time to cancel it. What would you recommend?
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Since you've ordered a Exynos equipped device I assume you're in Europe or the UK, correct? So your Service Provider can only enable all their Call Features (5G, Carrier Aggregation and the rest) if you have a Exynos Chipset and their branded phone or possibly the unlocked device. How valuable are those features to you? For me it's a no brainer, I would only aquire the Snapdragon SoC no matter where I lived "if" I wanted the device, which I don't. The more that is made public, the less confidence I have in the S22 Ultra, particularly the Exynos version. Honestly, if someone gave one to me for free, I'd give it back.
Thanks for the replies. I've found this on youtube and it shows that the performance of Exynos 2100 has been improved / optimised in time and caught up with SD so decided to keep Exynos version.
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Thanks for the replies. I've found this on youtube and it shows that the performance of Exynos 2100 has been improved / optimised in time and caught up with SD so decided to keep Exynos version.
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That's the S21 Exynos SoC. The S32 Ultra has a Exynos 2200 Chipset which has been totally redesigned.
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That's the S21 Exynos SoC. The S32 Ultra has a Exynos 2200 Chipset which has been totally redesigned.
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Yes I'm aware of it. I shared it as a reference of how Samsung support Exynos 2100 in time and improved it's performance. So Exynos 2200 might have a lower score against SD at the moment but it's performance will be improved in time too.