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Hi all,
I'm looking for a new smartphone for everyday use within £300 but no more than that. My main requirements are:
At least 5.5" Screen
Easy Bootloader unlock
LineageOS Support
Decent Selfie/Front Camera
Decent storage (32GB/64GB)
Privacy Screen available for such model
I have done some research and found a couple smartphones that are almost suitable for me.
The list is as follow:
Pocophone F1 - To unlock Pocophone F1 bootloader, I need to register somewhere and wait between 7 to 14 days for some unlock code or something like this. I hate DRM solutions and tactics like this and I'm also a big fan of Open Source so this doesn't fly well with me. Otherwise, it would be suitable.
Moto G7 - This smartphone have became Official for LineageOS recently so I have digged around and it looks like a lottery ticket as unlocking the device is flimsey and you can easily brick your device.
Any recommendations ?
Tankkarer said:
Hi all,
I'm looking for a new smartphone for everyday use within £300 but no more than that. My main requirements are:
At least 5.5" Screen
Easy Bootloader unlock
LineageOS Support
Decent Selfie/Front Camera
Decent storage (32GB/64GB)
Privacy Screen available for such model
I have done some research and found a couple smartphones that are almost suitable for me.
The list is as follow:
Pocophone F1 - To unlock Pocophone F1 bootloader, I need to register somewhere and wait between 7 to 14 days for some unlock code or something like this. I hate DRM solutions and tactics like this and I'm also a big fan of Open Source so this doesn't fly well with me. Otherwise, it would be suitable.
Moto G7 - This smartphone have became Official for LineageOS recently so I have digged around and it looks like a lottery ticket as unlocking the device is flimsey and you can easily brick your device.
Any recommendations ?
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Moto G7 is a joke infront of POCO F1. POCO F1 kills Moto G7 in ever way. If you already have given request for bootloader unlock to any Xiaomi phone before with a mi account, you can use it to unlock bootloader instantly of POCO F1, you can borrow someones or even the 14 days wait is worth infront of buying G7.
I have the G7 Plus which I got when it first came out. Nice phone, very stock android with some good Motorola additions. The camera has OIS, which is something that the Poco doesn't have of course. Having said that, when I got my Poco, the G7 Plus got thrown in a drawer and hasn't been used since.
I'm guessing you're British since you're using £. If that's correct you shouldn't have to wait more than three days to get your unlock code with the Poco. The frustrating bit will be finding a PC/laptop with USB 2 ports only. If you do get the Poco, you'll need a computer with USB 2 ports, a USB 2 hub will work, and make sure it doesn't have the new Ryzen processor. After that you'll be laughing all the way to the bank... Unlocking, rooting, and flashing is a doodle on the Poco...
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Hello guys. I want question. Realme ui and phones better are xiaomi ? I hate miui , but love stock like android. So i uses many phones of xiaomi with custom rom , and after buying a mi3. But Xiaomi Android one is joke.
So i seems the realme phones , the gui is think good.
I ask the users what think about . Thanks
You got it backwards xiaomi is better than realme
Miui is better than realme ui
I have a rm5 pro yet i cant even use it to play rhythm games, the system or the phone itself is not optimized for super fast paced games.
Whats good with a overkill specs if you cant use it lol
I think they could be as good or even better if they fixed few things. Just a little compare : i had both Realme 5 Pro & Redmi Note 8T and the latter has such a POOR CAMERA PERFORMANCE in compare, it's crazy I also prefer RealmeUI compared to MIUI.
for me ist much better Xioami ( MIUI ) rather than Realme ( RealmeUI ) but if compare to colorOS,is choose ColorOS
Xiaomi is only better because they let users develop more freely than Realme by releasing and updating source codes often and faster. They've a handy, official unlocking and flashing tool while Realme lacks these too. MiUi isn't great but way better than Rui or Cos. My Redmi Note 4X mido is getting loads of custom ROM and kernel updates with over 20+ to choose from. It's currently on Android 10 without any noticeable bugs while official MiUi updates were stopped at Android 7.1. This is why my mido is faster than my Realme Q even though my RMQ is 4 times stronger than my mido. Custom development is everything in my eye. A well refined system a.k.a software can do wonders in a few cases.
Poco UI will be like a MIUI based OS for Poco devices like what Joy UI is for Black Shark devices.
Poco will be releasing the Poco UI for Poco devices at the end of 2021:
Source: https://www.gizmochina.com/2021/05/13/poco-ui-confirmed-to-arrive-in-late-2021/
I've asked on Xiaomi.EU forum on the possibility of support for Poco UI and it seems like they will likely not support Poco UI in the future.
Poco devices that do not have Chinese equivalent devices, affected by this change to Poco UI and will NOT receive Xiaomi.EU roms in 2022 and beyond: Poco X3, Poco X3 Pro and Poco M3.
Devices affected by this change, but will still receive Xiaomi.EU rom support in the future since these devices are based on Chinese Redmi devices: Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K20 Pro in China) and Poco F3 (Redmi K40 in China).
The Poco F1 will not be affected by this change since the device is EOL for firmware updates.
Aosp is what's important anyway
Damn, I just bought a X3 Pro.
I hope the PocoUI doesn't mean Android 12 will be difficult or slower to get custom roms for.
What`s the problem guys? We have so many custom ROMs, GSI`s. Just unlock the bootloader and flash what ever you want.
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What`s the problem guys? We have so many custom ROMs, GSI`s. Just unlock the bootloader and flash what ever you want.
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I agree... to me (but I may be mistaken), xiaomi.eu was mostly usefull to shady vendors who wanted to import phones in markets where they should not be sold... which is often a scam in the end for the buyer since they get a warranty-void device.
So, ok, maybe xiaomi.eu was the first "custom ROM" for Poco X3 Pro, but if you take the step of unlocking and flashing, why would you stay on this? You'd go to a really nice custom ROM....
Maybe I'm missing a point?
May be you`re right. But I really dont like MIUI/RealmeUI and other similar shells. I prefer the clear native Android. So this new does not disturb me very much.
Some people just like the built-in features. They don't want to download some apps or modules to get features.
Personally have 1 complete stock, 1 Xiaomi.eu, and 1 ArrowOS.
Both MIUI drain battery faster, even if debloat with root.
Put custom kernel in Xiaomi.eu, but still drains faster than ArrowOS with custom kernel.
Well I use Poco X3 Pro mainly to film short videos and edit them in Apps for Social Media.
Stock Cam Steady Video is very Smooth and Stable and so far no GCam got me that (Hope the Arnova build - still in closed beta - might improve this).
Since AnxCam Dev seems inactive I'm worried if I ever have the chance to get the Steady Video experience on a Custom ROM, for all the rest I would totally like to switch to crDroid and kick MIUI.
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Poco devices that do not have Chinese equivalent devices, affected by this change to Poco UI and will NOT receive Xiaomi.EU roms in 2022 and beyond: Poco X3, Poco X3 Pro and Poco M3.
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The Poco F1 will not be affected by this change since the device is EOL for firmware updates.
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I'm planning to use xiaomi.eu which should have the Stock Cam experience with a few Extras (Dual Video, AI Watermark, ...). Need to check Steady Video in comparison tough.
Is the official EOL for Poco X3 Pro firmware updates known?
EDIT: ok I found this on mi.com/global "Xiaomi Security Updates"
We release monthly and quarterly security patch updates on Xiaomi devices for at least two years after product listing in the marketplace. Monthly and quarterly security updates will include Android security patches released by Google, as well as patches for Xiaomi-specific issues.
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So for Poco X3 Pro this means Updates "at least" until March/April 2023.
I also found this stating that a MIUI 13 update is possible for X3 Pro: devices eligible for the MIUI 13 update.
So let's hope Poco UI does not go official as planned at the end of 2021 or at least is not an immediate replacement for MIUI on Poco so that we will receive MIUI 13 and updates until Q1/Q2 2022 at least and so also xiaomi.eu Updates. That still leaves us with one year of uncertainty regarding MIUI/xiaomi.eu Updates.
By the end of this year, Poco has already announced it on the Poco Community forum.
However, it's not 100% confirmed that Xiaomi.EU will stop supporting Poco devices with Poco UI.
It depends on how different it is to MIUI, if it's anything like Joy UI then it's Xiaomi.EU is likely to drop support for Poco UI devices in the future.
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I agree... to me (but I may be mistaken), xiaomi.eu was mostly usefull to shady vendors who wanted to import phones in markets where they should not be sold... which is often a scam in the end for the buyer since they get a warranty-void device.
So, ok, maybe xiaomi.eu was the first "custom ROM" for Poco X3 Pro, but if you take the step of unlocking and flashing, why would you stay on this? You'd go to a really nice custom ROM....
Maybe I'm missing a point?
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You are right though. That was the whole point of EU Rom
A few months later, in September, this might really be the case.
The most recent POCO launches for F3 GT and X3 GT are on Mediatek (Dimensity 1200/1100 respectively) and I doubt they can even support Xiaomi EU roms.
In the future, we might see more Poco launches with this Dimensity SoC.
I want to buy the Xiamo Redmi Note 10 Pro online but it is a spanish version should i be allowed to easy change the language when installing the phone for the first time? If not is there an easy option to add other language to the phone?
greetings !
newwto said:
I want to buy the Xiamo Redmi Note 10 Pro online but it is a spanish version should i be allowed to easy change the language when installing the phone for the first time? If not is there an easy option to add other language to the phone?
greetings !
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Hi,
That version you're trying to buy is most probably the EU global version, which comes with all Global languages pre-installed. If you insert your SIM before the first time setup (first boot), your phone should automatically recognize your region and adjust itself accordingly.
If your language isn't included, you can unlock the Bootloader, flash official firmware from a different reigon and then Re-lock it again.
Also, as a Seasoned Xiaomi device enthusiast, here are a couple tips before buying/deciding:
There are some complaints and many reviews that the proximity sensor is sometimes defective on Arrival from seller, making calls extremely uncomfortable. Make sure to check its functionality before the Return window closes.
I own the Poco X3 NFC, which has the same snapdargon 732g chipset. Trust me when I say this, MIUI 12.5 is not optimized quite well for them. Games also don't recognize the right graphical settings for it. (Unless you plan to run a Custom ROM/Root immediately)
If you can sacrifice having a 3.5mm jack/sdcard, I would suggest buying the POCO F3, which is practically the same price but with the sd 870 chipset, an 200% increase in performance. Making MIUI actually usable.
If you must have 3.5mm/sdcard but can forgo an amoled screen for an LCD one, I would suggest the POCO X3 pro. It comes with the snapdragon 860 chipset and is cheaper in price anyways.
More answers can be found in the device sub-forum. Have fun with your new purchase
I cannot flash note 10 pro after I installed arrow rom , I guess it happened after the update of arrow rom. Before it was working fine.
Try everything from Twrp .. like cleaning
a.dalvik cache
b.System
C.metadata
d.Data
e.Cache
And even format...
arrow rom shows up again after reboot .....any help?
I also think it must come with all Global languages pre-installed.
Maybe i should
I want one too, just seems like no one has been interested in developing after the Poco x3 pro was dropped, being to do with the SoCs being used or something. I don't want to be forced to use garbage miui :'( or whatever the Poco reskin is called.
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I want one too, just seems like no one has been interested in developing after the Poco x3 pro was dropped, being to do with the SoCs being used or something. I don't want to be forced to use garbage miui :'( or whatever the Poco reskin is called.
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so there will be no custom roms for x5?
Would help if Xda opened a sub forum for the non pro model.
Yeah. I know this device just launched 5 weeks ago, but if I'd suspected the X5 5G would get so little love here at XDA, I might've gotten the X4 Pro instead...
I'm actually looking into compiling my own TWRP recovery for it, and an AOSP ROM when I've learned enough about custom ROM development.
Is there any way to request XDA consider opening a forum for a particular phone?
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Is there any way to request XDA consider opening a forum for a particular phone?
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Well I guess you could PM one of the admins/mods, but final decision would be up to their goodwill (or lack thereof), evidently.
It would make a lot of sense to create a dedicated forum though, as the X5 is powered by the Snapdragon695 and not a 7xx series as the X5 Pro is, which *probably* means that ROMs for the latter wouldn't be flashable on the former -not without incurring risks anyway...
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Well I guess you could PM one of the admins/mods, but final decision would be up to their goodwill (or lack thereof), evidently.
It would make a lot of sense to create a dedicated forum though, as the X5 is powered by the Snapdragon695 and not a 7xx series as the X5 Pro is, which *probably* means that ROMs for the latter wouldn't be flashable on the former -not without incurring risks anyway...
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Can't the Poco X4 Pro and Poco X5 5G use the same ROMs as both have same CPU, GPU, chipset, architecture, flops etc?
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Can't the Poco X4 Pro and Poco X5 5G use the same ROMs as both have same CPU, GPU, chipset, architecture, flops etc?
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There's usually a firmware, boot and vendor img difference which does make it incompatible, in most cases, and would need some tweaking to make it work right. But you're welcome to give it a test run, learn from experience. There are times with OEMs are lazy and it does actually work.
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There's usually a firmware, boot and vendor img difference which does make it incompatible, in most cases, and would need some tweaking to make it work right. But you're welcome to give it a test run, learn from experience. There are times with OEMs are lazy and it does actually work.
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even for custom ROMs? Incase the X5 does't gain popularity (which seems to be the way it's going), I was wondering if we could use custom ROMs for X4 pro in the future.
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even for custom ROMs? Incase the X5 does't gain popularity (which seems to be the way it's going), I was wondering if we could use custom ROMs for X4 pro in the future.
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Yep. It's uncommon to be able to use a different device's ROM even when the specs are similar. Unless you're using a gsi. It takes a while before custom roms start appearing after a phones release. Debloat and use as is would be my recommendation till then, if you already bought the phone. The Pro version is also likely to be more popular, among the enthusiast community, from what I can see.
So there's likely to be some trickle down effect of roms from the Pro versions to the non-pro
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Yep. It's uncommon to be able to use a different device's ROM even when the specs are similar. Unless you're using a gsi. It takes a while before custom roms start appearing after a phones release. Debloat and use as is would be my recommendation till then, if you already bought the phone. The Pro version is also likely to be more popular, among the enthusiast community, from what I can see.
So there's likely to be some trickle down effect of roms from the Pro versions to the non-pro
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Which is ironic, because the X5p does not have any kind of possibility of storage expansion by SDcard (while the vanilla X5 does provide a shared SIM/SD slot), making even the 256Gb version utterly useless for my use cases...
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Which is ironic, because the X5p does not have any kind of storage expansion by SDcard possibility (while the vanilla X5 does provide a sgaredl SIM/SD slot), making even the 256Gb version utterly useless for my use cases...
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To be fair, it's been a while since I've seen anything that has the 7 series chipsets to have a hybrid or dedicated SD slot. Just how the market playing field is, once you enter the mid-high range. Not great for the customer but that's capitalism for ya.
The Poco X5 5G may not be as popular as the Pro, but it's actually a very smooth phone if you don't play demanding games. Just received Android 13 update last night. My biggest gripe is the MIUI, which I don't like. After installing Nova7, the user interface is a lot more familiar and better.
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The Poco X5 5G may not be as popular as the Pro, but it's actually a very smooth phone if you don't play demanding games. Just received Android 13 update last night. My biggest gripe is the MIUI, which I don't like. After installing Nova7, the user interface is a lot more familiar and better.
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For daily use, it is quite smooth, the camera performance is trash though. GCam fixes most of it but the videos are still grainy. The X5 might be catching on now as it has received a big discount on an e-commerce platform recently. Nova or Lawnchair makes the experience pleasing but you miss out the gesture navigation which is a bummer.
Hello!
Is it possible to turn off the images of the camera settings in the Portrait mode of the Poco X5 5G/Poco X5 Pro 5G?
If possible, then it would be possible to shoot video in video bokeh mode.
My phone turned itself off today. Has anyone had this issue before?
priority1 said:
The Poco X5 5G may not be as popular as the Pro, but it's actually a very smooth phone if you don't play demanding games. Just received Android 13 update last night. My biggest gripe is the MIUI, which I don't like. After installing Nova7, the user interface is a lot more familiar and better.
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Seconded !
I've used the Microsoft Launcher for a long while before I bought the X5 5G a week after its global launchdate, but in the long run on MIUI 13 it turned out to be just too goddamn much of a battery hog...
So upon reading a comment from another member here that he was very satisfied with Nova I decided to give it a try, and felt so at ease with it that barely 20mins passed before I bought the Premium version. xD
But I do sorely miss the MS launcher's leftmost pane tho (the one where you can take quick notes and display your Outlook calendar, which is what I used it most for). :/
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My phone turned itself off today. Has anyone had this issue before?
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Yup. I traced it down to a dirty fingerprint sensor : some oil or grease traces would make it wrongly detect a long press or multiple short presses and trigger a shutdown.
A good, energetic cleaning with a rubbing alcohol-imbibed tissue then a thorough drying fixed it right up!
Any new news on custom roms? I want to get the phone on sale but I dread using MIUI