Ulefone S8 pro - rooting without unlocking bootloader possible? - General Topics

Hello,
i have to root my S8 pro now because the whole internal memory is nearly used by apps and system.
Is there a opportunity to root my device without unlocking bootloader?
I found magisk to modify the boot-partition and for example getting root on the device.
But you have to unlock the bootloader to flash the new boot-partition. I also read that unlocking bootloader always means that the whole device is resetted to factory-defaults which means losing all installed apps.
I have about 50 !! banking apps for generating TANs. For these apps, it's not enough to reinstall the app. You also need to reconnect the app (especially the device) to the banking account.
I think the only way to backup the the configured and connected app is to have root on the device, right?
My plan was to root the device without unlocking bootloader, then make a full-backup, unlock bootloader which resetting the deivce, and restore the full-backup.
After this, I un-root my device because the banking-apps check if a device is rooted. My plan is t re-roote the device using magisk only when needed and when no banking app is used, and then un-root it again.
Any idea how to solve my problem?
Regards
UP

Root requires unlocked bootloader.Nice plan but it won't work.

aBetterAndroid. said:
Root requires unlocked bootloader.Nice plan but it won't work.
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Really?
unlocked bootloader ist neccessary all the time while device is rooted, not only when flashing?

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So I've got 3 questions, we don't need to wipe the data before or after rooting the device ?
Do you have some problems with apps like keepass, banking (pay with your phone) or others ?
And last, is it possible to install OTAs after rooting the device without any problem (brick, bootloop or wiping all data) ?
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You need to unlock the bootloader in order to root. And the bootloader unlock process will wipe user data, by definition.
Banking apps will vary in what they look for (root, unlocked bootloader, etc.). Many will work as long as you use the Magisk Hide feature to hide root, as the previous reply mentioned. I've seen post regarding a few bank apps, which seem to be able to detect the bootloader is unlocked. So really no way around this (that particular bank app won't work) if you want to stay rooted. You should NOT lock the bootloader on a rooted device (phone will not boot afterwards). Having an unlocked bootloader and root go hand in hand.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/how-to/successfully-upgraded-to-9-5-7-t3937414
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hello
i have rooted my note 10+ and flashed dr.ketan rom
and there is an app still detecting the root after using magisk hide and i think it checks if the bootloader is unlocked
and i was wondering is it safe if i relock the bootloader
edit:my banking app does work with magisk hide and the SafetyNet check is successful
Re-locking a bootloader will ensure that the device will only boot to OEM signed and provided Android Images.
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hello
i have rooted my note 10+ and flashed dr.ketan rom
and there is an app still detecting the root after using magisk hide and i think it checks if the bootloader is unlocked
and i was wondering is it safe if i relock the bootloader
edit:my banking app does work with magisk hide and the SafetyNet check is successful
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Once u unlock bootloader never relock it many people have reported that their devices got permanently damaged after relocking bootloader
I see but is there a way to spoof it for other apps when it tries to read if the oem is unlocked or not
This is the app i am trying to hide the root from
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For any app ( as this is also true for every service center ) it's an ease to detect whether phone's Android got tampered ( even rooted ). No reliable methods exist to bypass such a query, IMO.

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moutsu said:
Do you know any exploits I should use?
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no. sorry.
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