Question Android Alternatives on Z Flip 3 - Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3

I have been thinking about getting the Z Flip 3 and am new to Android phones. But not to keen on keeping Android on it and am wondering, if it were possible put something like lineage os on it? How would I do this? Are there better alternatives?

Lineage is Android, but typically not available with new devices immediately. You also need to be able to ulock the bootloader, which is currently only available on devices purchased outside the US. That may or may not apply to you.

twistedumbrella said:
Lineage is Android, but typically not available with new devices immediately. You also need to be able to ulock the bootloader, which is currently only available on devices purchased outside the US. That may or may not apply to you.
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Thank you, information like this seemed to be scarce, for the standard android or lineage are there any alternatives that are more privacy and security sensitive? Something that can also be user friendly? And also works with the Z Flip 3?

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Oppo r15 Pro Android P

Anybody got it to work?
I'm over Coloros already (sick of the security, want vanilla android)
I downloaded Android P but it says Flash Failed when I try to flash it in (Coloros) recovery.
Yeah, I have it running on mine, but it's the first beta, so a bunch of stuff isn't working, hoping they will release a new rom soon...
What version of the phone do you guys have? Mine is the Australian one from Optus. I assume it doesnt automatically update the beta version like my Nexus 6P did when I enrolled in the program?
I also am getting annoyed with ColorOS as it has broken so many simple things my previous phone did e.g. Google Photos no longer wants to sync, calendar doesnt send me reminder notifications, googles alarm clock no longer works etc.
Would love to flash to stock android that automatically updated and be able to ditch ColorOS as overall the phones hardware seems very decent.
My main concern is the instructions say only Chinese phones should use that upgrade process and its impossible to revert without sending it to service in China. I am an IT Professional but I have never tried to flash with a custom rom in the past so a little wary of bricking my brand new phone =P
My model is CPH1831
Build number CPH1831AU_11_A.07_180705
Vyviel said:
What version of the phone do you guys have? Mine is the Australian one from Optus. I assume it doesnt automatically update the beta version like my Nexus 6P did when I enrolled in the program?
I also am getting annoyed with ColorOS as it has broken so many simple things my previous phone did e.g. Google Photos no longer wants to sync, calendar doesnt send me reminder notifications, googles alarm clock no longer works etc.
Would love to flash to stock android that automatically updated and be able to ditch ColorOS as overall the phones hardware seems very decent.
My main concern is the instructions say only Chinese phones should use that upgrade process and its impossible to revert without sending it to service in China. I am an IT Professional but I have never tried to flash with a custom rom in the past so a little wary of bricking my brand new phone =P
My model is CPH1831
Build number CPH1831AU_11_A.07_180705
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Hey there Vyviel,
I have the Oppo R15 Pro CPH1831 also and purchased it outright from JB HiFi a couple of weeks back now - carrier is Telstra.
This is my very first Android device after having shifted over from a 6s Plus... I will say that I personally don't mind this ColorOS business ATM but then again I am unfamiliar with any of this custom ROM business... You are right about the hardware though... for let's say $600 AUD less than the Samsung Galaxy S9 it stands pretty tall in the spec department for the price of $779.
I am also in IT... that is to say that I have been tinkering now for about 15 years and at present I have 4 and a half units remaining on my Bachelor of IT degree.
Like yourself... I have not flashed a custom ROM, rooted an Android based device or recovered back to out of the box state in case one might need to get that all important warranty back in the game if the process manages to kick you in the proverbial sack... so we are in the same boat in not wanting to create a mid range in the expense scale paperweight.
I would really like to know how to do all of this in the safest way possible though and to be quite honest am finding it somewhat difficult to find a great deal of info on this phone.
I'm willing to share a few links that I have found in relation to flashing a ROM on one of these things if you wanna send me a PM (I'm unsure of the legalities of posting links here as I have only just joined XDA)... I'm not 100% sure of what to trust when it comes to the links (one is a Vietnamese site I believe) and all of these processes in general but it would be good to get a second opinion.
Anyways... this post is starting to read a bit like a book so I'll leave it at that for now.
Cheers mate
PS: Nothing against the Vietnamese people intended whatsoever - peace out
shayne77 said:
Anybody got it to work?
I'm over Coloros already (sick of the security, want vanilla android)
I downloaded Android P but it says Flash Failed when I try to flash it in (Coloros) recovery.
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You aren't only here buddy, tried flashing my phone as well. Didn't work, got the same error. I think it's for the Chinese version of the phone, I'm not entirely sure.
Agreed, bought phone outright. No carrier/network lock. I've had it a week and also I am over the colour os!! I have had a bit of trouble with compatibility with my other home devices like screen mirroring, cloning/switching device data, Wi-Fi stabilisation etc... But have discovered that most option menus change and have slot more options if you have developer mode active whilst browsing through the setup menus.. Especially with device connections!!
But all in all I think I just want a normal android rom that will look like every other android menus but will utilise this devices nice hardware specs considering it bang for your buck price point!!
Sometimes you have to relise expectations and reality get clouded by hope...
Need Link to firmware - Oppo R15 Pro for latest Android P Beta
I happened to have the Chinese version (I believe). Can anyone post the link to the firmware being discussed on here?
look
https: //drive.google.com/file/d/1-G_1V9Zt1NGyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1-G_1V9Zt1NGy5qwtit-owiHw3jdbFUIb/view5qwtit-owiHw3jdbFUIb/view
Android 9 has been out officially for more than a month I wonder why the lazy Oppo developers have still not released a software update for it. ColorOS is pure trash just give me stock Android 9.
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Android 9 has been out officially for more than a month I wonder why the lazy Oppo developers have still not released a software update for it. ColorOS is pure trash just give me stock Android 9.
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ColorOS and Oppo aren't exactly known for their "immediate updates" if you wanted the stock experience and quick updates why not pick the Pixel?
Lemagex said:
ColorOS and Oppo aren't exactly known for their "immediate updates" if you wanted the stock experience and quick updates why not pick the Pixel?
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Because the Pixel phones are an absolute ripoff for mediocre hardware. Google lost their way after the Nexus 6P.
Next time I will go for a OnePlus =)
Is it possible to use new android P on the ' OPPO R15 ' ? (not the pro version)
my phone (oppo r15) runs on color os 5.0 so i thought i could update the android version to ' Android P ' so that the chinese version will be gone.. so i can finally use the google app and services, guys does it work on the oppo r15?
Yeah i'm wanting to know this as well! ColourOS seems to be a pretty big limitation although judging on the firmware difference (CPH1835 vs CPH1831) i'm unsure if i can flash Android P yet.. anyone have a definitive answer?
Lemagex said:
ColorOS and Oppo aren't exactly known for their "immediate updates" if you wanted the stock experience and quick updates why not pick the Pixel?
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i believe it's because of the money...
I've had the May 2018 P Beta on a R15 Pro Chinese since... forever. It's pure trash, 80% of apps don't work due to mysterious crashes. It has not received an update at all since May 2018.
So now we either use trash ColorOS on which it is impossible to install GPlay on because of weird proprietary security, or we use near-stock but almost useless P beta. Either way it's almost a brick.
ULAMSS5 said:
I've had the May 2018 P Beta on a R15 Pro Chinese since... forever. It's pure trash, 80% of apps don't work due to mysterious crashes. It has not received an update at all since May 2018.
So now we either use trash ColorOS on which it is impossible to install GPlay on because of weird proprietary security, or we use near-stock but almost useless P beta. Either way it's almost a brick.
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Me too,can r15 Pro get in pixel experience or asop?
liliu said:
look
https: //drive.google.com/file/d/1-G_1V9Zt1NGyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1-G_1V9Zt1NGy5qwtit-owiHw3jdbFUIb/view5qwtit-owiHw3jdbFUIb/view
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sorry but this link is not avaiable anymore
i got r15 pro china stuck logo after upgrade to android P beta
con_sau_may_tinh said:
sorry but this link is not avaiable anymore
i got r15 pro china stuck logo after upgrade to android P beta
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now you can get Coloros 6(https://www.coloros.com/topic/coloros6.html)
which has completely different UI from Coloros5.2/5.0, enough of too many bugs in Android P beta also , but things got changed now
They sure are taking their time with coloros 6. Im reading it should have been released in May but still nothing confirmed. I will never buy an oppo again as this is bad. Android Q (10) will be released soon and oppo is struggling to release android 9. What a joke.
Agreed #perryano. Their hardware is fantastic, but this ColorOS BS just destroys the whole experience and controls everything you want to do like the PRC. If I could just run vanilla Android, I would be a happy camper.

A shortlist for my next phone, and two questions

Hey there,
I recently posted here about looking for a new phone on a budget. I'm happy to say that after a few weeks I've narrowed down my options to a shortlist of 10, using gsmarena to compare specs. I'm now at a point where I need to fill in the final gaps, but I'm unable to do so without an intimate knowledge of the devices, Android or the Android rooting scene, none of which I have, so so am at the mercy of the community for any further help.
I need to know whether each of the below phones satisfies two specific criteria.
These are the phones that I'm looking at:
- Honor 8
- Honor 8X
- Honor 9 Lite
- Honor 9
- Honor Play
- Huawei P20 Lite
- Motorola Moto G6
- Moto G6 Play
- Motorola Moto G5S
- Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite
For each of them, I'd like to know...
1. Whether it supports split-screen multitasking. Odd as it sounds, one of my biggest reasons for moving to Android is the ability to use YouTube while using other apps, so the phone I buy needs to support it. Based on my research, I have a feeling this is entirely independent of hardware, and that all of these phones should support a high enough Android version to use split-screen, but I'd like to confirm this.
2. The state of the modding/rooting community for the device; how much the phone supports modding and how active the community around it is. The other reason for moving to Android is the ability to customise things to my heart's content, based on the criteria outlined here. Does the phone in question support Magisk, TWRP, Treble, ElementalX? Are there any modding-related that I should know about it?
Once in again, thanks to anyone who's read through this properly and can answer these questions, it's much appreciated.
Thanks
If you want a rootable phone, drop all Huawei phones from your list

LineageOS

Hello,
I wanted to see if anyone made LineageOS work on the Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra SM-N986U1. I would consider it a nice replacement phone for the ZTE Axon 7 I have currently but I can't find anything so I am posting here. I currently have the DooGee S95 Pro that I am trying to get the LineageOS GSI of LineageOS 18.1 running but it won't boot.
Thanks!
Good question, wrong thread man
Oh sorry what place should I post it then?
Don't get this phone if you want custom ROMs. I couldn't get Lineage GSI to work but if you can then it's not going to be as good as Lineage built for the specific device.
OnePlus 9 Pro or even literally anything else would be a better choice.
Hello,
Hardware is better than the DooGee S95 Pro by a lot, I can get the GSI to load on the DooGee S95 Pro and wanted this phone because the bootloader is unlockable and we can then have custom rom. I like this phone because 5G, SD card slot, Note series with Stylus, wireless charging at 15w, NFC, and really nice screen. Any recommendation on a better phone then? I am running LineageOS on the ZTE Axon 7 and havent found anything better... sadly.
Apparently the OnePlus 9 Pro doesn't have an SD card slot, the Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra 5G has pretty much every great hardware feature I could want ( no mention of a notification LED but yea ) but no mention of good software like LineageOS on it... Q_Q
So nobody's going to port over LineageOS? Too bad.
get a xiaomi if you want custom roms man,.i had plenty on k20pro
I was working on it for a bit but i cant get 18.1 android 11 to boot. it goes straight to bastboot. ive spent hours on it but no luck. 17.1 i got going but ril is all borked, no wolte (which i guess is a samsung wide thing with LOS so i dont know if it is even fixable) no 5g and because lte doesnt work phone calls drop to 3g AND SMS only works on EDGE connections lol. then i got bored and have been playing with smart home crap but thats a story for another day lol. its sad but i think the custom rom scene is dying. its a shame really. all us developers made imprvements and then the big companies copied them and now no one except the REAL nerd hard core users feel the need to root or flash a custom rom on their phone. years ago it was almost a requirement to have a good experience on the device. hell los invented the notification quick tiles.. anyways i had 1 to many beers and went on a tandget there sorry, i'm going to bed now.
if anyone feels like it my WIP tests are on my github
github.com/Albinoman887
its a huge mess with many branches for each repo that are just tests or crap or dont even compile with non descriptive names for comits and stuff but there things that are worthy. (DUB3 kernel merge comes to mind)
I truly like LOS. If some developer could get a stable 18.1 version for the Exynos Variant, I would unlock my phone, and change the OS to LOS
marcusah123 said:
Oh sorry what place should I post it then?
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Just found the thread by accident and moved it to the Q&A section. If you realise that you've posted in the wrong section just hit the report button to alert the moderators team.
Regards
Your friendly neighbourhood watch.
Hello,
What's required to make LineageOS actually work? What help is needed? I'm not an android developer but it would be nice to know what I can do to help.
Thanks
P.S. I also have experience installing GSIs on phones and in my experience the GSIs won't load on Android 11 if it's either the wrong partition type OR for the Android 9 device I have it wouldn't load 11 if the bootloader code had been modified with Magisks and I had to put the boot code back to stock and then it booted so it might be something like that.
Hope that's a little helpful. I know this thread is getting old though...

Where to buy "already" rooted phone?

Hi, I am just not getting it. Spent money on two phones to see if I can unlock and root them, and it is not my forte! Don't even know where to start because there is just too much information out there when I search online.
Is there anywhere I can just buy a rooted device, or pay someone to do it. Since every search on the Internet leads back to this site I thought I should ask it here. If I am in wrong section please let me know.
Thank you
As you want to root your phone, I'm assuming you know how a phone works and how to differentiate models and variants!
You can't buy an already rooted phone, as none come with it. If you want a phone that is easy to root but still good for a daily driver, you have to know the following criteria:
- Very popular brand (Samsung, Xiaomi, Oppo)
- Has to have a Snapdragon processor (mediatek phones are harder to root)
- The specific device should be popular on XDA (examples include Redmi Note 8 Pro, Poco X3 Pro, most samsung S devices that have Snapdragon processors)
- Samsung S (s22, s20, s8, etc) only have Snapdragon CPUs in countries like the USA and I think China
google pixel or oneplus are great
MirageSteezyBoi said:
google pixel or oneplus are great
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yeah, but if you buy a oneplus don't get anything above the 8 lineup as they just get worse from there
and if you get a pixel 6 series i can't guarantee anything about that tensor chip being even bootloader unlockable
burned4l said:
Hi, I am just not getting it. Spent money on two phones to see if I can unlock and root them, and it is not my forte! Don't even know where to start because there is just too much information out there when I search online.
Is there anywhere I can just buy a rooted device, or pay someone to do it. Since every search on the Internet leads back to this site I thought I should ask it here. If I am in wrong section please let me know.
Thank you
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Search for "rooted android phone" on Ebay. Do your research and make sure you know what your are buying, though. Also check the vendor ratings of the seller.
dcarvil said:
Search for "rooted android phone" on Ebay. Do your research and make sure you know what your are buying, though. Also check the vendor ratings of the seller.
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recipy for DISASTER. don't buy a pre rooted phone, who knows what keyloggers and spyware can be put alongside that root? i wouldn't risk it at all, in fact i wouldn't buy any daily driver thing from ebay outside of like a phone case
Thank you for the replies. I will keep reading and researching. I bought a Motorola G Stylus (2021) just now, and gave up on the Samsung s10e. So far I have been able to get adb and fastboot working. Reading on XDA to figure the rest out.
Very popular brands (Samsung, Xiaomi, Oppo, Huawei, etc) tend to lock down their devices entirely. one can't just unlock bootloader from fastboot. beware of random guides, they often outdated or too broad.
before buying a device
- get confirmation that bootloader actually is unlockable (with regards to android version/carrier/branding etc)
- check community development is active (TWRP available? custom ROMs?)
you can do so by reading the proper section to device model on xda-developers
(if you can't find it, don't buy it)
Samsung Galaxy S10
Samsung's flagship for 2019, the Galaxy S10, is a 6.1" device, with a curved edge display, and a resolution of 1440x3040. It's powered by either the Exynos 9820 or Qualcomm Snapdragon 855 chipset, which is paired with 8GB of RAM and either 128GB or 512GB of storage. The main camera is comprised...
forum.xda-developers.com
Moto G Stylus (2021)
The Moto G Stylus is a 6.8" phone with a 1080x2400p resolution display. The Qualcomm SDM678 Snapdragon 678 chipset is paired with 4GB of RAM and 128GB of storage. The main camera is 48+8+2+2MP and the selfie camera is 16MP. The battery has a 4000mAh capacity.
forum.xda-developers.com
aIecxs said:
Very popular brands (Samsung, Xiaomi, Oppo, Huawei, etc) tend to lock down their devices entirely. one can't just unlock bootloader from fastboot. beware of random guides, they often outdated or too broad.
before buying a device
- get confirmation that bootloader actually is unlockable (with regards to android version/carrier/branding etc)
- check community development is active (TWRP available? custom ROMs?)
you can do so by reading the proper section to device model on xda-developers
(if you can't find it, don't buy it)
Samsung Galaxy S10
Samsung's flagship for 2019, the Galaxy S10, is a 6.1" device, with a curved edge display, and a resolution of 1440x3040. It's powered by either the Exynos 9820 or Qualcomm Snapdragon 855 chipset, which is paired with 8GB of RAM and either 128GB or 512GB of storage. The main camera is comprised...
forum.xda-developers.com
Moto G Stylus (2021)
The Moto G Stylus is a 6.8" phone with a 1080x2400p resolution display. The Qualcomm SDM678 Snapdragon 678 chipset is paired with 4GB of RAM and 128GB of storage. The main camera is 48+8+2+2MP and the selfie camera is 16MP. The battery has a 4000mAh capacity.
forum.xda-developers.com
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about every phone is on xda, just that many don't have populated Roms and Kernels sections (ie: huaweis) so make sure it has 7-10.000 messages at least if you want a really good starting point
Nobody should buy an already rooted phone.
You should ever re-flash the full stock, format data and then, re-root the phone by YOURSELF.
151kmh said:
about every phone is on xda, just that many don't have populated Roms and Kernels sections (ie: huaweis) so make sure it has 7-10.000 messages at least if you want a really good starting point
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Hi, do you have any specific model you can suggest? Considering the following:
I want to buy an android that I can root for sure, no matter how old it is as long as it runs Android 6 at least, I need it to be as cheap as possible, and I want to buy it in USA, compatible with T-Mobile carrier which is the one I use
I bought this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B3F9BRF9 and it was compatible with TMobile but there's no TWRP or info on how to root it, so I'm seeking for some old phone that actually works and is rooteable. I want to run some experiments but I need root access.
Thanks in advance!
Edit: I found several Samsung S7 on Ebay that could work, do you think it's a good match for rooting?
burned4l said:
Hi, I am just not getting it. Spent money on two phones to see if I can unlock and root them, and it is not my forte! Don't even know where to start because there is just too much information out there when I search online.
Is there anywhere I can just buy a rooted device, or pay someone to do it. Since every search on the Internet leads back to this site I thought I should ask it here. If I am in wrong section please let me know.
Thank you
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Most easy to root phone ar
realme, samsung, oneplus
Buy one of this and follow the tutorial
From youtube make sure android version are matched with the tutorial
samsung what? lol read post #8
aIecxs said:
samsung what? lol read post #8
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there is a method for samsung update androids works on 9|10|11|12|13
incase u dont know
samsujjamanrifat said:
there is a method for samsung update androids works on 9|10|11|12|13
incase u dont know
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Do you mean the video "How To Root Any Samsung Phone Complete Guide Easy Method 2023"?
Have you tried with each of the 182 Samsung phones?
ze7zez said:
Do you mean the video "How To Root Any Samsung Phone Complete Guide Easy Method 2023"?
Have you tried with each of the 182 Samsung phones?
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im a technician almost tried 40
even s22 ultra
the video is worthless
samsujjamanrifat said:
there is a method for samsung update androids works on 9|10|11|12|13
incase u dont know
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No, I don't. I only know that OnePlus Oppo Realme devices belong to bbk and are hard to unlock with fastboot disabled.
https://forum.xda-
developers.com/t/decision-by-oppo-no-bootloader-fastboot-access-for-oppo-phones-starting-2016.3348114
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ut-unlocking-fastboot-on-oppo-devices.4490041
Xiaomi devices are still unlockable, but you have to follow special procedure, and it doesn't work for blacklisted devices.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/which-tool-to-unlock-bootloader-poco-m5.4535015
what I have heared about Samsung, unlocking is not officially supported for US/Canada devices. also branded devices like cricket, verizon, etc aren't unlockable
aIecxs said:
"Verizon, for example, likes to prevent bootloader unlocking altogether, making it impossible to root your phone. Sometimes, though, people find unofficial workarounds, and we’ll let you know if any are found."
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if you're willing to pay hundreds of dollars for unlocking, visit this thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-unlock-for-samsung-us-canada-devices.4215101
@samsujjamanrifat But if you know how to unlock Samsung, you may help out this guy with unlocking
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/samsung-a03s-roo-issues.4532585
ze7zez said:
Do you mean the video "How To Root Any Samsung Phone Complete Guide Easy Method 2023"?
Have you tried with each of the 182 Samsung phones?
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download your phone firmware using same binaries
found it on download mode
extract on pc
copy the ap file to the phone u wanted to root
download magisk apk
click install magisk
select the ap file
wait
then there will be patched ap file
move it to the pc
flash it with odin
after flash install magisk
your phone now rooted
There are channels to buy pre-rooted phones, but I assume that we are not supposed to publish these things on XDA.

Question this phone will have many custom rom/ development?

Hi, I like the phone but also I want to put some tweaks like 90hz display, custom roms, pixel 6 camera features(motion mode), kernels...
will we see a lot of development as in the xiaomi poco f1 or not?
thank you
If you have a Xaomi, i recommend keeping it a little longer. Roms for this devive are in a weird situation because the only 2 stable ones are calyx and graphene which arevboth great, but they are both very barebones and kind of difficult if you aren't experienced with degoogling
Twilightsparklez said:
If you have a Xaomi, i recommend keeping it a little longer. Roms for this devive are in a weird situation because the only 2 stable ones are calyx and graphene which arevboth great, but they are both very barebones and kind of difficult if you aren't experienced with degoogling
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thank you, but with the same cpu as pixel 6 and 6 pro, it will be easy to port roms from pixel 6?
charly30 said:
thank you, but with the same cpu as pixel 6 and 6 pro, it will be easy to port roms from pixel 6?
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Yes, adding Bluejay is possible. Whether developers choose to do it is another question.
Velocity will be ready for public release soon. I'm just buttoning up a few more things.
I noticed with the phones I've own, custom ROM seem to get me frequent as the phone gets older and the stock rom releases begin to vaporize. If the phone has enuff hardware power n memory AND there's no more factory support (as in many older midrange Motos). The Moto G5+ and G5S+ had active 'post' communities as did the G6...I got a G7 cuz of 4gb memory figured it'd be a big post EOL project/rom phone BUT I missed the fact that moto was following google with the whole dynamic update w/ dual A/B slots which killed our beloved TWRP custom recovery and nandrive image backup.
BUT is u weren't into rooting/tweaking then that explains why Android Police named it the #1 phone for running LOS! Esp. after Moto released thr Android 10 kernel source code!! This is the main reason I didn't sell/trade it off...and ofc my wife put one of those sky-blue 2pc cases from Poetic and claimed it! lol

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