Question Tizen apps on wear os - Samsung Galaxy Watch 4

I was using gear S3 for many years and i was very happy about his performance. Now i buy watch 4 classic. It seems very good too.
I wonder that can we (ever) port tizen apps to wear os? For example i really like gear S3's launcher.
I think Samsung will give us galaxy store and old watchfaces eventually. But if there will be official porting app, it would be nice.

If you have your old watchfaces in your galaxy wearable app you can already use them on the watch4. My wife is using her old active2 watchfaces on her watch4

I'm not clear if there is a porting app out there. My understanding is that Tizen watch faces will not work on a watch4. One of the developers of watch faces which I frequently use (Matteo Dini) had to convert the Tizen faces he made to Wear OS with a new development tool. I think this tool is only for watch faces but I could be wrong.

I believe you are correct. I use some of his watchfaces and others and none of them converted over, for me anyway. I am still looking for a solution because I have quite a few and would hate to have to pay for them again (though I probably will have to)

spart0n said:
If you have your old watchfaces in your galaxy wearable app you can already use them on the watch4. My wife is using her old active2 watchfaces on her watch4
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thats not a thing

sesnut said:
thats not a thing
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Yes it is, I set up my wife's watch and I thought they wouldn't be compatible but on her note9 it shows her old watchfaces in the galaxy wearable app, all of which were installed from the galaxy store for her active2. She tapped one of them and it popped up on the watch4.

Alright, enjoy being wrong

Hmm, this didn't work for me either. I have a Gear 2 and couldn't migrate any of my watch faces. Stinks : -(

exactly my thoughts. guess i won't be getting one soon

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Gear 2 / Gear Live comparison thread

To make it all a little easier for the consumer to make an informed decision I think it would be useful to build a comparison thread.
This is not for slating or making big statements about Samsung strategy, literally feature and technical comparison.
I.e music : Gear 2, ability to store locally and play through device or phone. Gear live, ability to control music playing on phone.
Please post any areas you know are 100% true and I'll update the first post.
Gear 2, has speaker & mic, Gear live has only mic.
Gear 2 has Camera / Gear Live no cam.
raiu said:
Gear 2, has speaker & mic, Gear live has only mic.
Gear 2 has Camera / Gear Live no cam.
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No speakerphone, no Gear Live, for me. The speakerphone is just too good on the Gear 2 Neo for me to get rid of it.
Yeah I mean being able to answer a call from the watch is a nice feature to keep :/
dazkeirle said:
To make it all a little easier for the consumer to make an informed decision I think it would be useful to build a comparison thread.
This is not for slating or making big statements about Samsung strategy, literally feature and technical comparison.
I.e music : Gear 2, ability to store locally and play through device or phone. Gear live, ability to control music playing on phone.
Please post any areas you know are 100% true and I'll update the first post.
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I love my Gear 2, mainly because of the ability to make/receive calls and the camera.Those two main features are not available on the Gear Live.
Android Wear looks awesome so far though.
brazcub said:
I love my Gear 2, mainly because of the ability to make/receive calls and the camera.Those two main features are not available on the Gear Live.
Android Wear looks awesome so far though.
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I have both but prefer my gear, simply because of the full android os (almost) thanks to the custom null rom
gear 1 has overclocking and undervolting, playstore access, on screen keyboard, full customizeable apex launcher, xposed framework and modules, extended camera record unlimited.......shall i go on
gear 2 has none of the above (as yet)
gav83collins said:
I have both but prefer my gear, simply because of the full android os (almost) thanks to the custom null rom
gear 1 has overclocking and undervolting, playstore access, on screen keyboard, full customizeable apex launcher, xposed framework and modules, extended camera record unlimited.......shall i go on
gear 2 has none of the above (as yet)
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You have both? Gear 2 and Gear Live?
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brazcub said:
You have both? Gear 2 and Gear Live?
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Oh no sorry. I thought this was a live comparison. Between the gear 1 and the gear 2 models
My bad
gav83collins said:
Oh no sorry. I thought this was a live comparison. Between the gear 1 and the gear 2 models
My bad
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I thought about getting a Gear1, I definitely prefer Android, but decided to get the Gear 2 because development on the original Gear seemed to have all but stopped.
Hoping for development on the Gear 2, but starting to think it may never come with the new Android watches coming out.
The Neo was so cheap that I don't regret it, it will definitely hold me until a better Android option comes out
slaydog said:
I thought about getting a Gear1, I definitely prefer Android, but decided to get the Gear 2 because development on the original Gear seemed to have all but stopped.
Hoping for development on the Gear 2, but starting to think it may never come with the new Android watches coming out.
The Neo was so cheap that I don't regret it, it will definitely hold me until a better Android option comes out
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the gear 1 , hardly needs any more development, its fantastic
My Gear Live's plastic back started to crumble where the charger clips to it. My Gear 2 hasn't done that yet. Exactly the same issue as described at http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...r-lives-horrible-charging-mechanism-breaking/

How to connect Samsung watch to lg phone.

I don't know if it's posted but if not this video helped me connect both my gear watches to my phone.
https://youtu.be/VrXwHh7EVnI
Yeah thanks I'm sure some might use. However the downfall for this with the gear s Is you are severely limited. At this point why own the gear s? You might be better off getting the gear s2 at this point. That or just get another cheaper smart watch that doesn't have 3g s2 capabilities.
There is a forum on the gear s part that they have been able to get it dang near fully functional but I and a few others haven't gotten it to work on the v10. It sucks as I prefer the gear s but if I can't get it fully functional with the v10 I might just try out the s2
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Can't get my Gear 2 neo to connect... I think the gear manager app on the play store only woks with gear s versions
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Zugshad said:
Yeah thanks I'm sure some might use. However the downfall for this with the gear s Is you are severely limited. At this point why own the gear s? You might be better off getting the gear s2 at this point. That or just get another cheaper smart watch that doesn't have 3g s2 capabilities.
There is a forum on the gear s part that they have been able to get it dang near fully functional but I and a few others haven't gotten it to work on the v10. It sucks as I prefer the gear s but if I can't get it fully functional with the v10 I might just try out the s2
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I did just this,switched from the Gear S to the Gear S2.
As you,I actually liked the Gear S,but,I'm glad I made the switch,works well w/the V10.
My preference is the square/rectangle form factor,but,the S2 has quickly grown on me.They finally got the watchband right,flows right in w/the body of the watch & the clasp isn't clunky when doing desktop work.
I still have the Gear2,which is still my favorite watch by far & holding out hope that someone can get it to work w/Marshmallow.
KOLIOXDA said:
I did just this,switched from the Gear S to the Gear S2.
As you,I actually liked the Gear S,but,I'm glad I made the switch,works well w/the V10.
My preference is the square/rectangle form factor,but,the S2 has quickly grown on me.They finally got the watchband right,flows right in w/the body of the watch & the clasp isn't clunky when doing desktop work.
I still have the Gear2,which is still my favorite watch by far & holding out hope that someone can get it to work w/Marshmallow.
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Do u have the link if the forum that they are working on.
justice26 said:
Do u have the link if the forum that they are working on.
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Here's a couple threads on the topic,sounds like some progress may have been made for Lollipop devices since I last gave it a shot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723862
Last post from above thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63363023&postcount=822
Link to new(ish) tutorial for GearS on non-Samsung devices (& other Gear devices Pre-GearS2,YMMV,I haven't tried this out myself):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63248411&postcount=451
Again,these are for the Gear2 & GearS,mods are NOT necessary for non-Samsung devices with the new GearS2.
Thank u
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2934307
I got it to work with my gear 1. Gear manage, pictures, everything just like if I had a samsung phone. Cannot get it to pair with my neo 2 though.
justice26 said:
I got it to work with my gear 1. Gear manage, pictures, everything just like if I had a samsung phone. Cannot get it to pair with my neo 2 though.
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Is your gear 1 on tizen?
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No I believe it's jelly bean
v700xxubna6 firmware
justice26 said:
No I believe it's jelly bean
v700xxubna6 firmware
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Damn.. Ok. I was hoping you got it to work with nf1 or oa2. I can't stand the black background and not being able to install watch faces.
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How do I get a face watch on my Gear Fit 2 watch? I have an LG V10 phone and I have the Samsung Gear app. I purchased a face watch from Google, and now I need to get it on my watch. How do I do that? Any suggestions?

Loving the new Gear S3

Went to Tmobile and made the jump from the Gear S2 to the Gear S3. Was gonna wait as some people were stating its not much of an upgrade but I like the new look and band.
Now a convert to a smartwatch user. My Frontier is the bees knees. Just wondering how many Classics they have sold over the Frontier?
I had the S2 3G and got rid of it due to how "dainty" it is. I wear a Panerai daily so the S2 was too small. I love this S3. Just wish they would have done a 24mm band. I have tons of those.
P7M8 said:
I had the S2 3G and got rid of it due to how "dainty" it is. I wear a Panerai daily so the S2 was too small. I love this S3. Just wish they would have done a 24mm band. I have tons of those.
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I also had the S2 but never truly enjoyed it (too small). The S3 is great.
I have been able to use an exact o knife and trim down a couple 24mm leather bands and they fit the 22mm lugs pretty perfectly.
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Nice watch face, may I know where you get it? Thanks
+1
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Very nice. I think the Frontier version is better than the Classic version due to the LTE connectivity.
ayong chia said:
Nice watch face, may I know where you get it? Thanks
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Very cool watch face. I too, would like to know where you got it.
jez924 said:
Went to Tmobile and made the jump from the Gear S2 to the Gear S3. Was gonna wait as some people were stating its not much of an upgrade but I like the new look and band.
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Please share how we all can install this besutiful watch face. Thanks in advance.
You can get the watch face from an app called Watchland
Yeah, I grabbed that watch face this morning too. Can't use the app on the watch, but download the app on your phone, download the face, got to your download folder, and the .gwd file is there. Needs to be loaded via Gear Watch Designer, where you can add links to apps, steps, battery, etc.
I was able to use the companion watch ap just fine and it loads perfect
Sorry ... which app????
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Yeah, which app? For the S3? It doesn't show up in search in Galaxy Apps, and the app it takes you to from the help page did no longer available or not supported device.
arl16 said:
Yeah, which app? For the S3? It doesn't show up in search in Galaxy Apps, and the app it takes you to from the help page did no longer available or not supported device.
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looks like it can't be loaded in us
Thanks. I see the apk, but don't know how to get that to the watch.looks like just the phone app.
Instructions for getting it on the watch from the webpage don't work for me. Under "Free", I see Watchmaster and Mr Time Maker, but no Watchland. Help?
May be it is watch designer FOR WINDOWS ???? to be used on PC
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I plan on making my own watch face soon using the developer tools
http://developer.samsung.com/gear/design/watch-designer
Yeah, I've made a bunch of faces using Gear Watch Designer, and downloaded watch face files and installed them using the PC program. (See my thread on faces I've made in the Themes/Apps/Mods section). We were just hoping to have a way to do it directly from the phone.
Me to
jez924 said:
Went to Tmobile and made the jump from the Gear S2 to the Gear S3. Was gonna wait as some people were stating its not much of an upgrade but I like the new look and band.
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I saw a display version and read some reviews. Fell in love with the watch. I have the Gear2 and the GearS and now the Gear S3. I really love this device. I had to open an account with T-Mobile in order to get the watch. Now I am going to move all my equipment from VZW over to TM.

Want to get the S3 have some questions

I want to get the Gear S3 Frontier. I have a Honor 8 phone. I use Google Messenger and Google Allo. Do both of these apps work with the Gear S3, can I send and receive text messages etc. I don't want to use the stock Samsung app.
falcon26 said:
I want to get the Gear S3 Frontier. I have a Honor 8 phone. I use Google Messenger and Google Allo. Do both of these apps work with the Gear S3, can I send and receive text messages etc. I don't want to use the stock Samsung app.
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You get notifications(with the content like you have in the Android status bar) , but you can not reply from the watch
falcon26 said:
I want to get the Gear S3 Frontier. I have a Honor 8 phone. I use Google Messenger and Google Allo. Do both of these apps work with the Gear S3, can I send and receive text messages etc. I don't want to use the stock Samsung app.
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jpph said:
You get notifications(with the content like you have in the Android status bar) , but you can not reply from the watch
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Replying works too but requires installing android wear and pairing it with an emulator.
10urshin said:
Replying works too but requires installing android wear and pairing it with an emulator.
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How to pair with emulator? Mine just says trying to connect....
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aapanju said:
How to pair with emulator? Mine just says trying to connect....
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http://www.tomsguide.com/faq/id-2452471/install-android-wear-emulator.html
Perfect... will this enable more features on my Gear S3? As Iv read that it doesn't but some say it does... whats your take..?
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aapanju said:
Perfect... will this enable more features on my Gear S3? As Iv read that it doesn't but some say it does... whats your take..?
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It is for android wear watches so doesn't do much for gear, it only enables replying to the messages even if you are not using samsung's message app. You can just use SMSGear instead of doing this actually. https://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-s3/themes/opensource-sms-application-gear-s3-t3557263
Ahh only sms... I thought whatsapp etc also...
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I will probably skip the Samsung watch and grab a wear watch instead like the Lg Style. After some reading Samsung watches are great if you have a Samsung phone, but if you do not then it's hit or miss with most apps and some don't work at all. And of course the apps I use are the ones that apparently don't work at all with Samsung. Shame really because I think the Samsung watch looks almost like the $1000 Tag Heuer smart watch. If they would have only used wear software instead of there own.
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I will probably skip the Samsung watch and grab a wear watch instead like the Lg Style. After some reading Samsung watches are great if you have a Samsung phone, but if you do not then it's hit or miss with most apps and some don't work at all. And of course the apps I use are the ones that apparently don't work at all with Samsung. Shame really because I think the Samsung watch looks almost like the $1000 Tag Heuer smart watch. If they would have only used wear software instead of there own.
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(I'm not sure where you're at but) Check Best Buy. The Samsung Rep told me you can return the S3 within a 15-day period after buying. I asked the rep at a Best Buy (at a location with a Samsung gallery -- not all locations have) to take the S3 out of Store Demo Mode so I can pair it with my old Galaxy Note 2 but he said he can't. He mentioned I can buy and return it within 15 days if I'm not happy with it. If you're going to do this, see if you can involve a manager. Sometimes reps just say whatever they want to make a sale. But who knows. He could be telling the truth.
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(I'm not sure where you're at but) Check Best Buy. The Samsung Rep told me you can return the S3 within a 15-day period after buying. I asked the rep at a Best Buy (at a location with a Samsung gallery -- not all locations have) to take the S3 out of Store Demo Mode so I can pair it with my old Galaxy Note 2 but he said he can't. He mentioned I can buy and return it within 15 days if I'm not happy with it. If you're going to do this, see if you can involve a manager. Sometimes reps just say whatever they want to make a sale. But who knows. He could be telling the truth.
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Best buy's return policy is 15 days unless otherwise stated. The only reason I know that is they will price match anything you buy within the return period as well. I had bought a TV and on the 15th day it dropped by about $500. Called them up and they refunded that amount. The info on price matching and return policy can be found easily on their website.
So I checked out the S3 at T-Mobile store. Never mind its way to big and heavy. Also it didn't work with half the stuff I wanted to do on my Pixel. I think this watch is great if you have a Samsung phone, but if it's a non Samsung phone then expect half the stuff not to work right. I think I will pick up the new LG Sport watch instead...
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So I checked out the S3 at T-Mobile store. Never mind its way to big and heavy. Also it didn't work with half the stuff I wanted to do on my Pixel. I think this watch is great if you have a Samsung phone, but if it's a non Samsung phone then expect half the stuff not to work right. I think I will pick up the new LG Sport watch instead...
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If you're concerned about sizes, I think the LG Sport Watch is bigger but along with its size, you get more screen and a higher resolution. Unfortunately, there wasn't enough room to improve on battery life for the LG even for its bigger size. I'm on the morning of Day 3 and I still have 62% battery power (granted I turn it off after 9pm and turn it back on at 6am). Lots of trade-offs. But I agree. You get a better experience with the Gear S3 if you have a Galaxy phone. Have you seen this article? http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-watch-sport-vs-samsung-gear-s3
EDIT: One of the best things I love about the S3 is Samsung Pay (way better than Android Pay). Never again do I pull my wallet out (except when I occasionally buy wine -- I still get carded LOL!)
falcon26 said:
So I checked out the S3 at T-Mobile store. Never mind its way to big and heavy. Also it didn't work with half the stuff I wanted to do on my Pixel. I think this watch is great if you have a Samsung phone, but if it's a non Samsung phone then expect half the stuff not to work right. I think I will pick up the new LG Sport watch instead...
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That hasn't been my experience at all. I have a Moto G4 and my wife has a Huawei phone and the S3 works very well with either. I've paired it separately with both plus an older Moto E I and everything works without a hitch. I know there have been some hitches with the IPhone but I wouldn't touch one of those if my life depended on it so I can't comment there.
There isn't a huge difference in the S3 user experience with a Samsung phone versus other branded Android phones. Regardless, if integration with the Google ecosystem is paramount, an AW watch will fulfill those duties better than the S3. But the LG Sport has a few serious shortcomings compared to the S3: inferior battery life, fixed wristband (a comfort and customization issue), and lack of MST. The LG Sport is the best AW 2.0 watch on the market only because it's the only one on the market right now. I too am waiting, I just chose to do it while using the S3 in the interim.

Thinking about buying a Gear S3 Classic, please help

Have the original Huawei watch.... Screens a bit burned in and looking for a replacement. Liked the HWatch, was ehhh with AW 2.0 so I'm fine with moving OS's. Looking around I don't see many options I really like outside of the S3 classic, however I have been reading nothing but horror stories about Tizen 3 update. Is it really that bad? If I'm going to be forced to run a nearly 18 month old watch on original firmware I might as well stick with what I got.
Any input to assist me here?
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Have the original Huawei watch.... Screens a bit burned in and looking for a replacement. Liked the HWatch, was ehhh with AW 2.0 so I'm fine with moving OS's. Looking around I don't see many options I really like outside of the S3 classic, however I have been reading nothing but horror stories about Tizen 3 update. Is it really that bad? If I'm going to be forced to run a nearly 18 month old watch on original firmware I might as well stick with what I got.
Any input to assist me here?
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Have Gear S3 Classic LTE version Verizon, with 3.0 and no issues
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I have the Gear S3 frontier on 3.0 and no issues. I get 2 - 3 days on a charge depending on the watch face.
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I also came from the Huawei Watch v1 and just got the Gear S3 Classic yesterday. The reason I switched was because I also do not like Android Wear 2.0. Overall, I do like the Gear S3 but I also miss the app selection and support of Android Wear. If all you're going to use the watch is for notifications with simple replies, then the Gear S3 will work for you. However, if you're planning on using the watch as somewhat of a phone replacement, then the Gear S3 is severely lacking in that category. The reason why I state this is due to the lack of app developers that support Tizen.
Forget about native Google Maps support on your watch, texting is really only done via replies, Fidme for loyalty cards, i.g. Starbucks, is hit or miss, etc. Overall though, as I stated above, if your main goal is just to have notifications on your wrist, have Samsung Pay, and don't mind using S Health for fitness, then the Gear S3 is an awesome device. If you need anything more, you're better off going with Android Wear for the full application and developer support on the platform.

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