i picked up on a s5 neo because of the 64bit cpu over the snapdragon 801, cost only 60$ and is supported by lineage-os to my surprise the latest official version of it runs on 32bit even though the cpu can run 64bit, i did look at phone info [samsung] on the stock rom and it ran in 32 bit as well, the most i know about it is that it was android 6.0.1, so my questions is will lineage-os put this phone on 64bit since it can run it and did it ever have 64bit support at all from android, because i didn't try android 7 at all, i did try the Cosmic-Kernel that appears to run in 64bit but truth be told i haven't got a clue what im doing as to install it so i didn't try to hard to install it, heres a link to the github for it
https://github.com/Cosmic-Kernel/android_kernel_samsung_s5neolte
You have to distinguish between a device's Linux kernel and device's Android OS. Both are different to each device.
A kernel for Android OS basically is a mainstream Linux kernel, with additional drivers for the specific device, and other additional functionality, such as enhanced power management or faster graphics support.
If I'm not mistaken the kernel determines if the OS is 32bit, not necessarily the OS am I right or can the OS and kernel be 32bit
Actually any 64-bit ARM SoC can run 32-bit software ( Linux kernel -> modules, Android OS -> libraries & executables ) due to its 32-bit compatibilty mode.
This will change: ARM has announced that from 2023, all of its new smartphone CPU cores will be 64-bit only, with no 32-bit compatibility mode.
BTW:
Have never heard that Linux kernel determines whether Android OS has to run in 32-bit mode or 64-bit mode.
jwoegerbauer said:
Actually any 64-bit ARM SoC can run 32-bit software ( Linux kernel -> modules, Android OS -> libraries & executables ) due to its 32-bit compatibilty mode.
This will change: ARM has announced that from 2023, all of its new smartphone CPU cores will be 64-bit only, with no 32-bit compatibility mode.
BTW:
Have never heard that Linux kernel determines whether Android OS has to run in 32-bit mode or 64-bit mode.
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jwoegerbauer said:
Actually any 64-bit ARM SoC can run 32-bit software ( Linux kernel -> modules, Android OS -> libraries & executables ) due to its 32-bit compatibilty mode.
This will change: ARM has announced that from 2023, all of its new smartphone CPU cores will be 64-bit only, with no 32-bit compatibility mode.
BTW:
Have never heard that Linux kernel determines whether Android OS has to run in 32-bit mode or 64-bit mode.
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I know of running 32bit software on a 64 bit processor works on the same way with typical desktops and laptops, I'm trying to figure out how to make it run in 64bit mode, and determine the easiest way to do it
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Hey guys,
Been working on a personal project, and came to this question, which also happens to be the first Im having to post about online..
Is it even possible to boot the kernel in EL2 mode with the sdm845 SoC ?
My end goal here being running qemu - which I'm already are - under KVM ( The tough part )
I Already tried enabling the necessary options in the kernel build, flashing them, with no success.
What I've been reading around is that since the system uses the TrustZone environment, this may not be possible.
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I have been trying for some time now to enable KVM on the Pixel XL, by compiling the stock Google kernel and adding the KVM switches to "marlin_defconfig". Unfortunately, while the kernel with KVM compiles properly and could be flashed, /dev/kvm...
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On the other hand, under the chipset specifications I've been seen that only EL3 is really protected by the security implementations.
Documentation – Arm Developer
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I know some exynos chipsets support booting in EL2 out of the box, but I see not much development for Qualcomm based ones.
ARM KVM (Kernel Virtual Machine) enabled Kernel for Samsung Galaxy S8
Hi. Can someone that compiles kernels for this phone compile one with KVM enabled and make it available to download? It should not be too hard. This would really make these machines appealing if you could spin up VMs on them especially...
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KVM
Limbo is a QEMU-based emulator for Android. It currently supports x86, ARM, PowerPC, and Sparc emulation for Intel x86 and ARM android devices. See wiki https://virtualmachinery.weebly.com for APK...
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So, summing up, is it possible, and if so through what actions, to boot a kernel under LE2 mode on a snapdragon processor?
Also, side note, I'm willing to brick my device, if its worth the try, and adds to any progress of future development.
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Cheers!
Sadly, with SDM845 it is impossible to enable KVM in android Linux kernels. As the kernel is booted under EL1 by the firmware. But with this firmware https://github.com/msm8916-mainline/qhypstub, msm8916/msm8935 can.
Is there a way to enable KVM for SM8450 (Snapdragon 8 gen 1) ? I would like to use Qemu on Galaxy Tab S8
linlin3309 said:
Sadly, with SDM845 it is impossible to enable KVM in android Linux kernels. As the kernel is booted under EL1 by the firmware. But with this firmware https://github.com/msm8916-mainline/qhypstub, msm8916/msm8935 can.
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How i check my device booting with EL1 or EL2 ?
Via `dmesg` ?
Hello. I just wanted to play Trivia Royale on my phone but it says " device isn't compatible with this version " on play store. I have installed apk manuelly and could open game . But it has so many lags . I have tried game on Samsung Note 4 it works really good. I think it is about my phone's 32 bit processor . Because Note 4 has 64 bit one. Is there a way to play that game on my galaxy a10 without laggy ? ( i guess my phone could run 64 bit supported games. I'm very dissapointed )
To find out whether phone's CPU architecture is 64-bit or not download, install and run
Droid Hardware Info
From there you can collect information about your phone's CPU. The common nomenclature for ARM, ARM64, and x86 processors are as follows:
ARM: ARMv7 or armeabi
ARM64: AArch64 or arm64
x86: x86 or x86abi
jwoegerbauer said:
To find out whether phone's CPU architecture is 64-bit or not download, install and run
Droid Hardware Info
From there you can collect information about your phone's CPU. The common nomenclature for ARM, ARM64, and x86 processors are as follows:
ARM: ARMv7 or armeabi
ARM64: AArch64 or arm64
x86: x86 or x86abi
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It says ARMv7-A . What does this mean ?
jwoegerbauer said:
To find out whether phone's CPU architecture is 64-bit or not download, install and run
Droid Hardware Info
From there you can collect information about your phone's CPU. The common nomenclature for ARM, ARM64, and x86 processors are as follows:
ARM: ARMv7 or armeabi
ARM64: AArch64 or arm64
x86: x86 or x86abi
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Aida64 shows 64bit ArmV8-A (32bit Mode).
Both reports show your phone runs 32-bit Android kernel and userspace. Hence you can't flawlessly run apps compiled to be used in 64-bit Android kernel and userspce.
Hello forum guys, I've registered now to see if any enlightened souls could help me.
So straight to the problem...As stated in the title I have a Galaxy A02s and I am having problems with its Android.
I did a lot of research but I'm just getting more doubts, I read things like custom mod, kernel 64, treble info, and so on.
I will specify my device with the Aida64 information for better understanding:
Chipset: Qualcomm Snapdragon 450
Core Architecture: 8x ARM CORTEX-A53 @ 1804MHz
Manufacturing Process: 14nm
Instruction Set: 64-bit ARMv8-A (32-bit Mode)
And Treble Info says:
In the Architecture part: "Your device is ARM32 but uses a 64-bit binder. This usually indicates that the hardware supports 64-bits but the software does not. In this case, a 'binder64' or 'a64' image should be used. "
And in the Image Requested part: "Your device needs an image file called 'system-arm32_binder64-ab.img.xz.'"
I don't know if this Treble has anything to do with leaving Android in 64-bit, but I was researching and researching and that's what I got, however, I have little knowledge about these things and I didn't find any tutorial teaching how to install/update to 64-bit
That's it, I hope you can help me, thank you in advance
What's your real problem?
Any 64-bit SoC flawlessly runs 32-bit Android OS and 32-bit apps
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What's your real problem?
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sorry, stopping to read again what i wrote i realized i didn't specify what i needed help lol
So I just don't want this 32-bit mode, I googled to see if my processor had architecture to run in 64-bit, and apparently yes, so I wanted to put android in 64-bit, but I have no idea of how to do this
thanks again
Replace this thread's title by your real problem: How to reflash Galaxy A20s with 64bit Android
Certainly, you flashed a 32bits system.
Just flash a 64bits system.
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Certainly, you flashed a 32bits system.
Just flash a 64bits system.
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I bought the phone and it came like this, but how do I do it ? To a 64bits system
I'm also with the same problem, I would need some ROM for the 64-bit system, but I realized that there is none so far, is there any other way to change it to 64-bit without changing the ROM?
Short answer: NO
Short answer: NEVER
I'd like to ask how is the 32bit system with the 64bit system?
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Hello Community!
I am asking myself it is possibe to direkt boot a debian ARM Port or ARCH Linux ARM Port (maybe from SD Card) on my Smartphone? I saw lots of videos booting a Linux on Top of Android but i would like to "natively" run a OS. Where a Custom ROM typically has drivers for a special type of device i am thinking if a very generel distribution could detect most of the devices hardware...
Any Ideas if this would be possible?
AFAIK it's not possible.
Can you give me a (detailled) hint why you think this would not work?
When reading the informations: https://archlinuxarm.org/about/downloads
The released downloads are designed for the specific systems above; however, our package repositories work with any ARM device compatible with ARMv5, ARMv6, ARMv7-a, or ARMv8-a AArch64 instructions.
In TWRP i can select Storage - maybe starting from TWRP command line a image start from SD Card would be possible?
You initially said your goal is to completely replace Android by Linux ( ARCH Linux - what is for tablets only ) on a smartphone, IIRC.
Now you say you want to run Linux ( ARCH Linux ) on top of Android. Confused ...
hello! i meant that my smartphone can start the TWRP bootloader and from there the boot process could be (maybe) handed over to an image at the SD card....
thats the idea... ;-)
TWRP is a Custom Recovery means a restricted Android OS ( like Windows RE for Windows machines), not a bootloader ( what is comparable to UEFI / BIOS on Windows machines ).
The Android bootloader starts the recovery mode and the kernel, which then starts the operating system of your smartphone.