Question What is a difference of battery life in 60Hz and 120Hz? - Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3

Has anyone test this difference on the battery drain? I mean the stock settings.
I would like to change my S21 Ultra but still nervoused about a battery life

You'd probably get inaccurate results for the S21 Ultra here. The closest without being the same phone would be the Note 20 Ultra. The reason this one will vary so much is not being the quad-HD panel.

I did a bit of testing and found the difference negligible. I'd rather have the higher refresh rate.
For me battery drain was fixed with location accuracy settings and 'Galaxy Max Hz' for low refresh rate on screen off and AOD.

Gunde said:
I did a bit of testing and found the difference negligible. I'd rather have the higher refresh rate.
For me battery drain was fixed with location accuracy settings and 'Galaxy Max Hz' for low refresh rate on screen off and AOD.
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I have an honest question. If you are disabling AOD when the screen is closed, but that is (theoretically) the best time for it, is there a reason to keep AOD enabled outside of being automatically turned off?

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I have an honest question. If you are disabling AOD when the screen is closed, but that is (theoretically) the best time for it, is there a reason to keep AOD enabled outside of being automatically turned off?
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I haven't thought that much about to be honest Probably not.
Again, biggest battery drain for me was location accuracy, so screen refresh rate was not my main concern.

Gunde said:
I haven't thought that much about to be honest Probably not.
Again, biggest battery drain for me was location accuracy, so screen refresh rate was not my main concern.
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Sure, but this is the thread dedicated to refresh rate impact.
Battery Life
My second full charge stats for those interested.
forum.xda-developers.com
is a general discussion on overall battery life and
Did anyone notice the huge standby battery drain? Any way to measure what causes it?
First off, I love the phone and I'll keep it, but ever since I got the phone I've been wondering why it's draining so much in standby. It's my first Samsung phone since 2011, so naturally I assume it's Samsung apps/services that drain? Especially...
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is about standby drain (and location is already being discussed)
That aside, it would be interesting (albeit tedious) to have the refresh rate lower on AOD idle display. This is also assuming Samsung didn't already at least do that.

Gunde said:
I did a bit of testing and found the difference negligible. I'd rather have the higher refresh rate.
For me battery drain was fixed with location accuracy settings and 'Galaxy Max Hz' for low refresh rate on screen off and AOD.
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Same for me. I have it set for 48Hz when idle, getting 4-4.5 hours SOT on a regular basis

johnny8910 said:
Same for me. I have it set for 48Hz when idle, getting 4-4.5 hours SOT on a regular basis
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where is the location accuracy menu?

ShayMagen said:
where is the location accuracy menu?
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Settings -> Location

twistedumbrella said:
Settings -> Location
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You mean the improve accuracy menu?
I did toggle off wifi scanning and bluetooth scanning but I cannot toggle off the improve accuracy toggle.. it keeps turning on after I toggle off

ShayMagen said:
where is the location accuracy menu?
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Settings -> Location
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I can't help much with the other part. I don't even have that toggle. It's only BT and WiFi.

I mean that top toggle
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I don't even have that toggle. It's only BT and WiFi.
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What carrier you using?
When I toggle that button off I get a carrier hub processing request notification on top and it goes back to on.
I attached a picture of the notification. look at the bottom notification

Did anyone notice the huge standby battery drain? Any way to measure what causes it?
First off, I love the phone and I'll keep it, but ever since I got the phone I've been wondering why it's draining so much in standby. It's my first Samsung phone since 2011, so naturally I assume it's Samsung apps/services that drain? Especially...
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GPS keeping apps awake, even though GPS is off and apps are greenified.

I'm having an issue where apps which require location seemingly stay awake after being greenified and killed from the recent apps. In my battery stats, it shows the gps use details going up continuously, while the CPU usage does does not.
I am running the stock ROM and trinity kernel.
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I'm having an issue where apps which require location seemingly stay awake after being greenified and killed from the recent apps. In my battery stats, it shows the gps use details going up continuously, while the CPU usage does does not.
I am running the stock ROM and trinity kernel.
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I don't see the little GPS peg on the screen that would indicate GPS is being used. Is your battery dropping fast? It's either a bug in the display, or a bug in the GPS code.
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I don't see the little GPS peg on the screen that would indicate GPS is being used. Is your battery dropping fast? It's either a bug in the display, or a bug in the GPS code.
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That is correct, and why I am baffled. GPS is turned off. Battery life seems fine from what I am seeing.
ikn0wagh0st said:
That is correct, and why I am baffled. GPS is turned off. Battery life seems fine from what I am seeing.
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Is the issue reproducible?
go to your phones main settings, location.. what mode is it in? high accuracy, battery saving, or device only? also is googles location reporting on or off?
ikn0wagh0st said:
That is correct, and why I am baffled. GPS is turned off. Battery life seems fine from what I am seeing.
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It happened with me also some days back, location services were completely off but google services kept gps on, while I didn't enable it and I was able to track down the culprit, for me it was google play services. Restart fixed it for me.
I think this is another bug because same thing happened with a person who I know and for him it was facebook and for you its speedtest app.
I've noticed the service GoogleLocationManager tries to keep itself running at all times, even with locations completely disabled.
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Hi, i have the same problem. Few days ago i found out that may GPS si running background even if my google location, google maps are off. I put phone into airplane mode but GPS was still running.
My nexus 5 is stock and unrooted. If i turn off/on GPS stop running.
Has anyone any solution about this problem?it seems it has to be some bug draining my battery, but if i dont root nexus i wont know wick app is draining battery?
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go to your phones main settings, location.. what mode is it in? high accuracy, battery saving, or device only? also is googles location reporting on or off?
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^^^^^ this.
Set it to battery saving. A majority of the apps do not need high accuracy (active) GPS. The only time I have to enable High accuracy active GPS is when using maps/navigation (a tasker profile takes care of that for me - enable high accuracy when maps is launched, and switch to battery saving when I exit maps). Most of the other apps work just fine with battery saving location settings.
I got this issue today ( stock rooted)
After using the map and GPS for many hours, the GPS was awake even after force close the map app, and setting location off.
Rebooting the phone is the fix.

Cell Standby Battery Drain?

Cell standby is continuously one of my top two battery drain items. I did a search and found a recommendation of booting into recovery, wiping cache, rebooting, and ensuring that advanced calling was turned on. I went through those steps and while it may have helped a little, it still seems to be using much more battery than it should be. Anyone else battling this on a Verizon version? If so, any other items I can try to fix the problem? Thanks in advance!
I have this on my s6, but not on the note 5.
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I just can't seem to find what is causing it.
I get it too but it doesn't seem to drain my battery much. I'm still getting 6 hours of SOT. I haven't used my phone all that much the last few days but I'm at four days without a charge and 29% left. I tried clearing cache three times but cell standby remains on top. It would be nice to get rid of but it's not killing me.
Misterxtc said:
I get it too but it doesn't seem to drain my battery much. I'm still getting 6 hours of SOT. I haven't used my phone all that much the last few days but I'm at four days without a charge and 29% left. I tried clearing cache three times but cell standby remains on top. It would be nice to get rid of but it's not killing me.
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I found this in the General Section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62555790&postcount=19
Maybe it could help.
darksidesh007 said:
I found this in the General Section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62555790&postcount=19
Maybe it could help.
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Thanks for the response. I do already have advanced calling turned on. This may vary from carrier to carrier. I am on Verizon.
I have this issue when I have WiFi on, with WiFi off just have no issue
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If you are like me then Cellular is still going even when on WIFI. If you notice, the 3g/4g icon is activated and WHITE when using data. Otherwise it is grey. From what I understand when on WIFI this should always be grey. I should also mention I do not have Advanced calling turned on.
Keep in mind results vary depending on where you use the phone. Do you have a weak cell signal? When the signal is weaker, the phone compensates by using more power to boost it as much as possible. I haven't noticed the problem but I'm usually full or one bar from full signal at my home.
Mine drains more than 2% during standby, which is definitely not normal
Fix for cell standby bug is to go to Settings > Wi-Fi > more > advanced then make it look like this.
This is for the people that are having issues with the battery draining while on wifi only.
Setup like image below and it should fix your issues.
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Fix for cell standby bug is to go to Settings > Wi-Fi > more > advanced then make it look like this.
This is for the people that are having issues with the battery draining while on wifi only.
Setup like image below and it should fix your issues.
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mine looked like that from day one, still getting cell standby drain
ztahoez said:
Fix for cell standby bug is to go to Settings > Wi-Fi > more > advanced then make it look like this.
This is for the people that are having issues with the battery draining while on wifi only.
Setup like image below and it should fix your issues.
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I did it, but still getting cell standby at the top
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Battery drain will always vary my mileage, what firmware version are you on, what apps you have open , are you on LTE, 3G, wifi or no wifi and how many apps you have going, running in the backgroud. etc etc etc.
ztahoez said:
Fix for cell standby bug is to go to Settings > Wi-Fi > more > advanced then make it look like this.
This is for the people that are having issues with the battery draining while on wifi only.
Setup like image below and it should fix your issues.
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my is exactly like that, cell standby is still crazy high
No idea why this worked but switching data from global to LTE /CDMA only seems to have fixed my cell standby draining while on WiFi.
I bought my Note 5 on VZW yesterday, after coming from the note 5 on AT&T. My issue seems to be unusual high Android OS draining my battery. Maybe new phones just need a day or two to settle? I'm about to clear cache for apps by rebooting into recovery. I have done the following:
-Disable VZW/Samsung Bloat (Package Disabler Pro)
-Disable S Finder (Package Disabler Pro)
-Turn off motion Gestures
-Turn off S voice
-Turn off or decrease vibrations
-Turn off Google Location History
-Turn off Android Device manager
-Disable Unnecessary Sync Service
-Turn off S pen Alerts, pen detection, and S pen sound and vibration (will still work exactly the same)
-Turn off 'Always allow scanning' under advanced wifi settings (Allows apps to serach for Wifi even when wifi is off)
I have seen location history posted as a possible battery drain when not using phone. Check to see it's status. Turn off and try.
jeffdanger said:
I have seen location history posted as a possible battery drain when not using phone. Check to see it's status. Turn off and try.
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This helped. Just because Location isn't used, does not mean Location History is disabled. Thanks!

Android 11, UI 3.0 excessive battery drain.

Anyone updated to 11 and UI 3.0 getting excessive drain from the screen. According to GSam Battery Monitor Pro the screen is using 90%. On android 10 and UI 2.5 the screen barely used any battery. I have the display at about 50% and using dark instead of light theme.
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It looks like it's getting good SOT... about 11% @hr
The screen always uses the most battery.
Run display at 60 hz to get more SOT savings.
blackhawk said:
It looks like it's getting good SOT... about 11% @hr
The screen always uses the most battery.
Run display at 60 hz to get more SOT savings.
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Already doing that, on Android 10 UI 2.5 it was never that high. At a full charge when I went to bed in 10 hours it would be at 95-96% now while laying around and not using it drops 2-4% an hour. Some of those stats were while it was still on android 10.
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Anyone updated to 11 and UI 3.0 getting excessive drain from the screen. According to GSam Battery Monitor Pro the screen is using 90%. On android 10 and UI 2.5 the screen barely used any battery. I have the display at about 50% and using dark instead of light theme.View attachment 5166121View attachment 5166121
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Wow 13 hours screen on time for 22% of battery usage , hallajuha we have a winner .
Delete cache and data of GSAM or reinstall it.
ggrant3876 said:
Already doing that, on Android 10 UI 2.5 it was never that high. At a full charge when I went to bed in 10 hours it would be at 95-96% now while laying around and not using it drops 2-4% an hour. Some of those stats were while it was still on android 10.
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Probably Google Backup Transport, Transport Framework and/or Goggle Play Services running in the background. Clear their data.
AOD usage should about 1%@hr
Try disabling all power management and deal with the cause(s) directly if they persist.
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Wow 13 hours screen on time for 22% of battery usage , hallajuha we have a winner .
Delete cache and data of GSAM or reinstall it.
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Cleared the cache of GSam and booted to recovery and cleared the cache, see how it goes now.
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Anyone updated to 11 and UI 3.0 getting excessive drain from the screen. According to GSam Battery Monitor Pro the screen is using 90%. On android 10 and UI 2.5 the screen barely used any battery. I have the display at about 50% and using dark instead of light theme.View attachment 5166121View attachment 5166121
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Give it time to recalibrate it's info (battery) coming into android 11. Give it about 2 weeks.
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Give it time to recalibrate it's info (battery) coming into android 11. Give it about 2 weeks.
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Recalibrate: drain to near autoshut off then fully recharge to 100% to reset parameters.
Mines also going tits up since android 11 update. What I had to do was remove/ exempt GSAM from battery optimization.
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Mines also going tits up since android 11 update. What I had to do was remove/ exempt GSAM from battery optimization.
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That didn't help mine. I'll give another week to calibrate and then start worrying about it.
I also went to Android 11 and this night did the GSAM test: Eight hours my dear friend sleeping next to me. But no AOD.
Result: 0,8% per hour, which is perfect. Before, with Android 10, I sometimes sqeezed out 0,7%/hr but that is of no importance. The best overnight was 0,6% loss./hr.
I have 540 applications installed I found out.
No battery calibrating or whatsoever done.
And..... I never switch off anything!. Bluetooth connection with watch remains all the night and WiFi remains on. Same location/GPS etc etc.
I sometimes become a little tired of reading advices to switch it all off, inclusive radio. Gives no difference in power consumption.
That may have been the case ten years ago.
And here is my GSAM screen. Looks OK.
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That didn't help mine. I'll give another week to calibrate and then start worrying about it.
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Ended up doing a FDR and didn't restore any old data. Battery is still the same, must be an OS problem that will be solved with a future update.
I noticed that without any disabling apps and just using battery background usage limits (setting which apps to to deep sleep etc.), the battery life got better with time. The moment i started doing app optimisations (goodlock) etc, battery life went haywire. I use accubattery just to check on parameters (it doesn't give accurate app usage in background). I'm using on 96hz as well.

Question Huge battery drain when sleep tracking after updating to R860XXU1CUJ2

Hey there. I am noticing a big battery drain on my GW 4 40MM Bluetooth when I am going to sleep, for example last night I've gone to sleep with 83% of battery left and in the middle of the night the watch died, the same thing the night before. Normally I would get about 20-25% loss with previous firmware
This problem started after I updated to R860XXU1CUJ2. The strange thing is that I am not noticing bad battery life when I wear the watch in the day (maybe a little more draining compared to previous firmware), also note that I am just using regular sleep tracking not O2 or snore detection even though I have used this options with the previous firmware and still I had battery when I woke up.
Does anyone else has big battery drains when sleep tracking and also is there an official site where I can make a ticket?
Thanks!
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Same here, happened to me twice already , can't track it back other than sleep mode
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Same here, happened to me twice already , can't track it back other than sleep mode
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I also posted here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyWatch/comments/qe1eyb
I turn off Bluetooth at night and I want to try if keeping it on does anything, because as you can see from my screenshot it uses Wifi and maybe this affects the battery life at night. Do you keep Bluetooth on or off?
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I also posted here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyWatch/comments/qe1eyb
I turn off Bluetooth at night and I want to try if keeping it on does anything, because as you can see from my screenshot it uses Wifi and maybe this affects the battery life at night. Do you keep Bluetooth on or off?
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I would say you've got your answer. If you have enabled the option to continue receiving notifications via wifi or lte then turning off Bluetooth will inevitably use wifi all the time and result in high battery drain, most probably...
CUJ2 version as well, 28% battery drain during the night. I just left the watch on my table. No sleep tracking. No wifi. No app listed under battery usage. Nice!
Is there a way to get more details on battery consumption?
Lefty_Kas said:
Hey there. I am noticing a big battery drain on my GW 4 40MM Bluetooth when I am going to sleep, for example last night I've gone to sleep with 83% of battery left and in the middle of the night the watch died, the same thing the night before. Normally I would get about 20-25% loss with previous firmware
This problem started after I updated to R860XXU1CUJ2. The strange thing is that I am not noticing bad battery life when I wear the watch in the day (maybe a little more draining compared to previous firmware), also note that I am just using regular sleep tracking not O2 or snore detection even though I have used this options with the previous firmware and still I had battery when I woke up.
Does anyone else has big battery drains when sleep tracking and also is there an official site where I can make a ticket?
Thanks!
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Same problem here. In this update, I think the Watch WiFi is set on when I turn the phone WiFi or data off. It's not happening before this update.
Lefty_Kas said:
I turn off Bluetooth at night and I want to try if keeping it on does anything, because as you can see from my screenshot it uses Wifi and maybe this affects the battery life at night. Do you keep Bluetooth on or off?
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I agree with DaReDeViL. You have your answer. Why do you turn off BT and leave on wifi? Wifi uses significantly more power. I'm on newer DUJA but I saw no issues with CUJA which I ran for several weeks. I have sleep tracking on without O2 or snore detection. I don't have BT or wifi on when I sleep though. I have no desire to get notifications when I sleep, I want to sleep. I actually use bedtime mode when I sleep. I loose between 4 - 6 % of battery when I sleep (I average about 7 hours). This has remained fairly consistent with every update.

Question Can u share ur battery with one ui 5.0 please?

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Mine has been great, overall about the same as 4.1 but just a bit more consistent.
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Mine has been great, overall about the same as 4.1 but just a bit more consistent.View attachment 5755763
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Any tweaks or debloating you have done to get 9hours?
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How man i cant get past 4hsot in my best days
It will vary with everyone. We use our devices different. Connectivity comes into play..what apps you have..what's running in background. I average 8hrs screen time but me posting what I have done is not going to get the same results as the next person. Screen on times are great but are people actually using the device or just watching a few movies that are 1hr30min. Are they just watching YouTube videos over and over, or do they have so many things disabled what was the point to getting a flagship device. So for me I use adb app control to disable At&t bloat, use a darker wallpaper, have some apps set to not run in the background. But I do not disable a ton of stuff. But again how I use my device is not the same as the next. But a week ago I did use the crap out of the device just to see what it would do, and I did get a 9hr screen time. But again I watched a lot of YouTube

			
				
None of this means anything unless people post their settings, specifically refresh rate, resolution, brightness level (auto or other), etc.
I'm getting about the same on 5.0 as I did on 4.1. I can get 6 hours of screen on time, 1440p, 120hz, auto brightness, although I am using the extra dim feature, but auto is still checked.
If I didn't have the Facebook app I think it would be a lot better honestly but I am using it. Oh well.
That was my point everyone uses device different. I turn off 5G and use Lte because where I live it's very spotty. Brightness at about 40%
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butchieboy said:
That was my point everyone uses device different. I turn off 5G and use Lte because where I live it's very spotty. Brightness at about 40%
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I Cant agree with anyone here bcz i swear even if i light use this phone i can get max 5hsot with 1080 and power saving mode enabled i literally did everything with this phone to get more but nothing. With my s21 ultra i was using 1440p 120hz and i played little games and used it alot minimum i can get is 5hsot one day i got 9h by light use but nothing helps with the s22u .. my next phone is not a Samsung for sure
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Mine has been great, overall about the same as 4.1 but just a bit more consistent.View attachment 5755763
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Honestly little debloating. The biggest thing on mine is I keep high refresh off and have apps that would constantly sync in the background put in deep sleep. Depending on where I'm at I'll turn off 5G. The main thing is I made sure all the T-Mobile garbage is turned off and that the actual Facebook app isn't installed. I tend to keep my brightness around ~30% as I spend the day either in my place for work, or at the gym where it isn't overly bright.
I forgot to mention I'm on an unlocked version of the phone, not a carrier variant. And every time i update my phone to a newer firmware I clear the cache. Honestly makes a huge difference.
This is me. I can not complain tbh.
27% left,only WIFI usage.
This is mine.
Power Saving on.
Full 60hz.
DNS66 full active
Routines On (Example; When I came to home, turn on WiFi, network 2g etc)
84 Application installed. 79 is deeply sleep.(except for; DNS66, WhatsApp, Telegra, Instagram, Twitter, Spotify, Firefox, Some Good Lock Apps etc)
No debloat
Dark mode on
SwiftKey dark keyboard
***S908U1***
I'm on 4th day since update to OneUi 5 and I think the S22U is still figuring things out.
100% -> 15%;
*23.5h of usage;
*5h 15min SOT;
*Mostly on WiFi, but keeping network on 5G;
*120Fhz, 1080p, adaptive brightness (but I find myself turning it down manually as it goes too bright);
*Most apps which don't trigger notifications are in deep sleep as well as location turned off for them or while on only;
*Usage mostly WhatsApp, Youtube, Instagram, Browser.

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