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Going to Canada and wondering if it's worth trying to get voice on their Network.

Specifically, I'm going to Montreal for two weeks and I'm very ignorant on what networks are available for me to use, as well as the process to get my phone to be able to use their SIM cards. Anybody willing and able to provide me with the necessary info, it's much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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Young War said:
Specifically, I'm going to Montreal for two weeks and I'm very ignorant on what networks are available for me to use, as well as the process to get my phone to be able to use their SIM cards. Anybody willing and able to provide me with the necessary info, it's much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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I would imagine you could call verizon and see if they can do something like temporarily add roaming onto your plan but i'm not sure if that would work or not. I believe you can add phone coverage for the time that you are there (not sure how much that costs) and im sure you can add data coverage as well (that probably costs more) but it would most likely require a call to verizon, personally i would go to a verizon store and talk to somebody there about it. But you'll probably want to just add phone coverage and just use wifi for data, but that depends on what you'll be doing there.
Now since i'm trying to plan a trip up there myself ill be watching this thread and seeing what happens
Edit: As of right now, the galaxy s3 isn't "unlocked" to work on global networks anyways, so unless verizon unlocks them within the next few days your probably out of luck.
http://businessportals.verizonwireless.com/international/Global_Phone/North_America/Canada.html
http://businessportals.verizonwireless.com/international/GlobalData/North_America/Canada.html

Not a bad idea to do it legitimately, but I was more so looking at possibilities with regards to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809314
I'm hoping that there's a cheaper method than adding international coverage to my current t plan.
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Young War said:
Not a bad idea to do it legitimately, but I was more so looking at possibilities with regards to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809314
I'm hoping that there's a cheaper method than adding international coverage to my current t plan.
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That could work, i'm not sure whether it would work in canada. Most of canada uses CDMA anyways, you could definitely go that route. If it were me though, i'd just add the international on temporarily for the two weeks you'll be there. But it depends on why your going too. For me it would be personal and i wouldn't need data or voice anyways, i'd just use wifi for data and skype to call home and check in So unless you need the data and voice outside of wifi areas you could probably get away with not having it

LG Urbane 2nd Edition LTE. Help getting ATT version working on T-Mobile network

I managed to snag an Urbane 2nd edition LTE before they cancelled the launch and pulled them from stores. At this point they will have to pry it from my cold, dead hands if they want it back (unless it blows up on my wrist). I want to put this device on the T-Mobile network. Has anyone had luck getting it to work on the t-mobile network? If so, what steps did you take. I have a t-mo nano sim card with smartwatch service installed in the watch, but I am not getting t-mo service. I was on tech support with t-mo for two hours and they were unable to get it working. Any help would be appreciated.

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The issue isn't the watch itself but an issue with T-Mobile not being able to tell that it is an actual wearable. Too many people took advantage of the wearable plan on a regular phone so they had to lock it down to only tmobile branded devices. I have been using my iPad sim to get just data for the watch, which is really all I wanted anyway. Don't want to be that guy talking to people from his wrist.

Adding it as regular device?
Do you think I could add it as a regular phone and have it work? I would not get the $5 smartwatch plan, but it would only cost me $10. I can afford and extra 5 dollars a month if it works.
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The issue isn't the watch itself but an issue with T-Mobile not being able to tell that it is an actual wearable. Too many people took advantage of the wearable plan on a regular phone so they had to lock it down to only tmobile branded devices. I have been using my iPad sim to get just data for the watch, which is really all I wanted anyway. Don't want to be that guy talking to people from his wrist.
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cpiddy said:
The issue isn't the watch itself but an issue with T-Mobile not being able to tell that it is an actual wearable. Too many people took advantage of the wearable plan on a regular phone so they had to lock it down to only tmobile branded devices. I have been using my iPad sim to get just data for the watch, which is really all I wanted anyway. Don't want to be that guy talking to people from his wrist.
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So the watch is NOT locked to ATT?? ATT told me it was...so I have not even tried to use on Tmo

aaronc_98 said:
So the watch is NOT locked to ATT?? ATT told me it was...so I have not even tried to use on Tmo
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No the watch is not locked to ATT. They wanted you to think that though

It's not locked. I am using it on Canadian Telus network

jaydoggy said:
I managed to snag an Urbane 2nd edition LTE before they cancelled the launch and pulled them from stores. At this point they will have to pry it from my cold, dead hands if they want it back (unless it blows up on my wrist). I want to put this device on the T-Mobile network. Has anyone had luck getting it to work on the t-mobile network? If so, what steps did you take. I have a t-mo nano sim card with smartwatch service installed in the watch, but I am not getting t-mo service. I was on tech support with t-mo for two hours and they were unable to get it working. Any help would be appreciated.
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Watch is not locked. Using it with a Truephone sim (Truephone uses ATT network). Works great.

You know there is a recall on this device right?

Not locked
I see some of you say is not locked.
Does that mean it's open to all carriers?
I live in Europe and I'm dying to get the watch, but as I could understand it was only working on 2 carriers in the States.
I've found some watches on eBay, and I'm kinda willing to pay what ever the price of it works over here in Europe.

Jarnfoss said:
I see some of you say is not locked.
Does that mean it's open to all carriers?
I live in Europe and I'm dying to get the watch, but as I could understand it was only working on 2 carriers in the States.
I've found some watches on eBay, and I'm kinda willing to pay what ever the price of it works over here in Europe.
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Yes, the ATT version (only one you will find on Ebay or anywhere) is not sim locked.
The Verizon (other carrier) version, which never ended up being sold after all, would probably not have a sim card slot, since Verizon is not a GSM carrier.
Bands ATT posted were: 850/1900 GSM (2G), 850/1900/2100 UMTS (3G) and 850/1900 LTE. I'll be able to test it in Europe soon and see if it has any unpublicized bands and thus may work over there. Will post findings in here.
I had mine up on Ebay, then changed my mind and decided to keep it for now. Even without a sim card in it, I can use its GPS and track my runs without a phone.

jaydoggy said:
Do you think I could add it as a regular phone and have it work? I would not get the $5 smartwatch plan, but it would only cost me $10. I can afford and extra 5 dollars a month if it works.
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@xendula did you ever try a phone plan with the watch? I'm having the same problem as in your OP, and am at the point of switching plans.
Otherwise, I may just switch providers...

gorillaz28 said:
@xendula did you ever try a phone plan with the watch? I'm having the same problem as in your OP, and am at the point of switching plans.
Otherwise, I may just switch providers...
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I believe if you add the watch as a phone, instead of a wearable, it does work on T-Mobile if that's what you're asking. I've had my AT&T version watch since last November and I'm using a Truphone SIM with no problems. I also used it while visiting family in France and had no problems there either.

Yes you can add it as a regular phone and it will work. I decided that I did not need to use it as a phone and decided to deactivate the SIM.

jaydoggy said:
Yes you can add it as a regular phone and it will work. I decided that I did not need to use it as a phone and decided to deactivate the SIM.
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jaydoggy is correct, I have an AT&T Urbane 2 on the T-Mobile network. I added it as an extra line (unlimited talk/text 2GB data for $10 per month).
There are some owners who have gotten the ATT Urbane 2 to work on T-Mobile with the $5 wearable program. It takes a call from a T-Mobile store Employee to their engineering support level. I tried at 2 local T-Mobile stores but each time the employee couldn't get the support engineer to code the LG watch as a Gear S2 which is supported by T-Mobile on wearable plans.
Try the $5 route, but know that it will work with the $10 add a phone line option.

Flash? Verizon Samsung S5 to T-Mobile Factory software..... Help please!

Simple right? I have a factory Verizon Samsung galaxy S5 now I have T-Mobile service, can't I just wipe the Verizon software and replace it with the T-mobile software? ..... but I just don't know how and of course T-mobile isn't going to help me they want me to buy a phone, but the super nice lady tech was smitten that another lady was talking "geek" to her so she sent me to the experts. YOU!! Point me in the right direction or something I can figure out the rest. I don't worry about make-up before I leave me house I spend time on making sure my brain can carry me through, so help me work out my greatest asset by handing over some more knowledge. If you have any questions about auto mechanics I could answer those in return.

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Simple right? I have a factory Verizon Samsung galaxy S5 now I have T-Mobile service, can't I just wipe the Verizon software and replace it with the T-mobile software? ..... but I just don't know how and of course T-mobile isn't going to help me they want me to buy a phone, but the super nice lady tech was smitten that another lady was talking "geek" to her so she sent me to the experts. YOU!! Point me in the right direction or something I can figure out the rest. I don't worry about make-up before I leave me house I spend time on making sure my brain can carry me through, so help me work out my greatest asset by handing over some more knowledge. If you have any questions about auto mechanics I could answer those in return.
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The Verizon S5's bootloader is locked. If you don't know what that means, it means non-official software/firmware/OS/etc cannot be flashed to the device. Even if the bootloader wasn't locked, the phones (afaik) are physically different (modems/radios/etc) to work on different network technologies.
I know some Verizon phones will work on T-Mobile's (and AT&T's network) simply by popping in the proper SIM. From a quick google search, it seems that the Galaxy S5 is one of them. You just have to change the APN settings or you won't get texts. Follow the directions here (they're for the Note 3, but it's the same process). If there's an update from Verizon, you might have to pop in a Verizon SIM card (and download it off of wi-fi obviously). The SIM doesn't need to be active (use your old one), the phone just has to recognize a Verizon SIM. LTE will work (with the proper APN) because Verizon and T-Mobile both use band 4.
Apart from the T-Mobile account app, there's really nothing about the T-Mobile version that you'd really care about. Different company, different useless bloatware. And as long as there's a T-Mobile SIM, you can still download the account app. If you just don't want anything "Verizon" about it, just google up a guide on what bloatware to disable and how to do it.
FYI, if you're in/around Tucson or Phoenix, supposedly this year we're finally going to get band 12. It's a 700MHz band (like Verizon's band 13), which, being a lower frequency travels further and penetrates buildings better. The Galaxy S5 does not support band 12 - it's not new enough. So if you're boiling your butt off in saguaro country like me, it might behoove you to get a newer phone. The reason we're waiting on band 12 is that there's a UHF TV station in Phoenix that conflicts with that frequency (and the broadcast radius clips the northern Tucson suburbs), but I guess the TV station is going to switch (probably with financial motivation from T-Mo).
If you're not in Tucson or Phoenix (I can't speak for Flagstaff), but in a more rural area, or just where there's poor LTE coverage, it still might behoove you to get a different phone rather than use your Verizon one. The problem is that it doesn't support T-Mobiles better/faster GSM bands, so you would get slower data speeds if not on LTE, even in an area with good HSPA+ or EDGE coverage.
Of course, the other option is simply to buy a T-Mobile phone (like a used S5 off of Swappa) then sell the Verizon one. Or find someone to trade with. An AT&T one would work as well as long as it's carrier unlocked (but not Sprint).
I don't have a car.

Planterz said:
The Verizon S5's bootloader is locked. If you don't know what that means, it means non-official software/firmware/OS/etc cannot be flashed to the device. Even if the bootloader wasn't locked, the phones (afaik) are physically different (modems/radios/etc) to work on different network technologies.
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Just saying, VZW s5 bootloader has been unlocked lately!
Won't make a difference for this user anyways....

Newyork! said:
Just saying, VZW s5 bootloader has been unlocked lately!
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No kidding?

Planterz said:
No kidding?
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There's already 201 pages on the unlocking thread!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...t/rd-unlocking-galaxys-s5-bootloader-t3337909

Pixel 3 bought from Verizon. No access to eSim?

On my Pixel 3 I cannot activate Project Fi. I assume it would automatically use eSim or give me the option to? However it does not. It has asks me to install a Sim.
I installed eSim switcher and have the option to add a carrier but I still cannot get it to work, just says cannot be activated try again later.
I would kind to know if there is a way to tell if my eSim has been disabled?

The Verizon models need to be activated on VZW for 24 hours before they become available to use on another carrier.

Nope, eSim is disabled.

When I was ready to order mine, I chatted at Google and I was told any pixel 3 bought from any of the sources (Google, Fi, best buy, Verizon) would be physically the same and would all allow for future Fi through esim. It took a bit of back and forth to explain that I didn't want to use it or activate it or start a fi account right away, but it should work the same.

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When I was ready to order mine, I chatted at Google and I was told any pixel 3 bought from any of the sources (Google, Fi, best buy, Verizon) would be physically the same and would all allow for future Fi through esim. It took a bit of back and forth to explain that I didn't want to use it or activate it or start a fi account right away, but it should work the same.
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Awesome! Thank you for posting this. I was hoping the capability is at least there.

Ughh.. I escalated this as far as I could within Verizon and from the person that handles the Verizon + Google relationship, eSim has been disabled on the Pixel 3 with no plans to enable it.

Would it be worth returning the Verizon one and buying an unlocked one?

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Would it be worth returning the Verizon one and buying an unlocked one?
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If you want to unlock the bootloader and root it soon it would be :good:

pragakhan said:
Ughh.. I escalated this as far as I could within Verizon and from the person that handles the Verizon + Google relationship, eSim has been disabled on the Pixel 3 with no plans to enable it.
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You are correct, you are going to need to either return it or use a Verizon sim and Fi Esim, although I'm not sure that will work at this point. That really sucks though. The reason it's eSim locked is that with it enabled you could take the device to any carrier immediately. They don't like that since you probably bought it on a deal like bogo or a payment plan over 24 months. If you bought it on a Verizon plan then they also want the early termination fee. There is a new revision of eSim that can lock the phone but it's on hold while the DOJ investigates. Personally, do yourself a favor and return it ASAP and perhaps take the hit on the return fee. You might be able to negotiate it down due to the eSim lock.
FYI, the Pixel 2 are eSim unlocked as well as the Apple Watch Series 3 but that's it for now. Let's see what happens when the gorilla comes into the game. Should be an interesting fight and I'm not sure Verizon can stand up to Apple for long.

I returned the device and ordered one from Google. Lesson learned, gave up my free stand and paying restocking fee lol

Glad I seen this thread, just canceled my Pixel 3 from Verizon and offered mine through Google. (Back Ordered)
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Does anyone know if the Verizon Pixel 3 is actually missing the eSIM chip, or is it just disabled through software. Actually I haven't seen any way to figure out if a particular Pixel 3 was from Google or Verizon ...

lightsedge said:
Does anyone know if the Verizon Pixel 3 is actually missing the eSIM chip, or is it just disabled through software. Actually I haven't seen any way to figure out if a particular Pixel 3 was from Google or Verizon ...
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Yes it has it and no it's not disabled thru software. It's just not enabled with Verizon network. Yet.

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Yes it has it and no it's not disabled thru software. It's just not enabled with Verizon network. Yet.
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My friend was not able to sign up for Google Fi using eSIM though.
Also, I switched to a T-Mobile SIM, and I don't see an easy way to open the eSIM Manager app. Not sure if this is normal or not - i.e. it seems to have GUI according to the store page but the "Open" link does not appear for me, nor is it in the apps list. Also no mention of eSIM in Mobile Settings. I guess maybe my OS build is a Verizon version?

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My friend was not able to sign up for Google Fi using eSIM though.
Also, I switched to a T-Mobile SIM, and I don't see an easy way to open the eSIM Manager app. Not sure if this is normal or not - i.e. it seems to have GUI according to the store page but the "Open" link does not appear for me, nor is it in the apps list. Also no mention of eSIM in Mobile Settings. I guess maybe my OS build is a Verizon version?
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I don't believe it has anything to with a Verizon version of the software, especially considering there is no such thing. There is only on version that we all use.
TMobile app isn't ready yet. They are saying by the end of the year. There is a Reddit thread on how to do it now if you want.
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/co...es_how_to_activate/?utm_source=reddit-android

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I don't believe it has anything to with a Verizon version of the software, especially considering there is no such thing. There is only on version that we all use.
TMobile app isn't ready yet. They are saying by the end of the year. There is a Reddit thread on how to do it now if you want.
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/co...es_how_to_activate/?utm_source=reddit-android
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That's a great thread, very informative. I heard that on Dec 7th the iPhone XR and XS were to be Verizon eSim active but I've not confirmed that yet. They are fighting tooth and nail to keep the tech out of people's hands, even dropping secondary sims down to 2G. But Apple will put the hammer down and then it will roll out to us lowly Pixel people eventually.

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I don't believe it has anything to with a Verizon version of the software, especially considering there is no such thing. There is only on version that we all use.
TMobile app isn't ready yet. They are saying by the end of the year. There is a Reddit thread on how to do it now if you want.
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/co...es_how_to_activate/?utm_source=reddit-android
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Nice thread, but there are accounts of Verizon disabling eSIM: https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/a4ispi/tmobile_us_esim_is_working_on_pixel_3xl/. The question is how?
I heard that Pixel 3 boxes from Google have ESIM ID printed. However, mine from Verizon has SIM ID, which matches the physical SIM card inside the phone. I actually don't know how to find the EID.

My Pixel 3 box that was purchased from direct from Google does have an ESIM ID number printed on the box.

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Nice thread, but there are accounts of Verizon disabling eSIM: https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/a4ispi/tmobile_us_esim_is_working_on_pixel_3xl/. The question is how?
I heard that Pixel 3 boxes from Google have ESIM ID printed. However, mine from Verizon has SIM ID, which matches the physical SIM card inside the phone. I actually don't know how to find the EID.
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Yeah I saw that but I don't believe it. They just haven't activated it yet I doubt they have purposely disabled it. It's live now for the iPhone but not yet for the Pixel 3. I might give them a call to find out when it will be activated but I don't have much hope in getting a csr that even knows what I'm talking about.
edit: nothing doing. They don't know when we'll have support on the 3s. I do wonder if someone took a vzw P3 / XL and could get the eSim activated on ATT or Fi.

Has anyone tried scanning the QR code generated on verizon's site? I generated the QR code on my Verizon account, but decided against scanning it for now... I'm traveling this week and can't afford to be down a phone. I didn't want it to disable my physical SIM and not active the eSIM, and somehow get stuck in limbo.

Question Best Buy Model

Hey all,
I saw that Best Buy has the unlocked P7P model GA03453-US while the Google store version is GE2AE. Is there a difference between the models? I can't find the BB model on Google's or anyone else's site.
Just want to make sure it's had MMW 5G and that 5G will work on AT&T's site.
Would it also be worth buying an open box model in excellent condition and over $100 off?
Thanks!

I wish that they would stop doing these confusing model numbers at stores. The GA03453-US is actually the GE2AE, it's just how Best Buy and other retailers catalog the phone. I bought one on release day and can confirm it's the standard US unlocked GE2AE model and I'm using it with a Boost AT&T network SIM with no issues.
Google GA03453 US
Google GA03453 US
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• Universal Unlocked. Compatible with all major U.S. carriers, including Verizon, AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile. Also compatible with prepaid carriers including Cricket Wireless, MetroPCS, Google Fi, Simple Mobile, Total Wireless, Tracfone, Net10, Mint, and H2O.

I agree with everything @EtherealRemnant said ⬆ right there. Google's not the only one, but certainly one of the brands I come across most often with this problem.
Edit: I forgot that I already have all the model number pairs in my Post #6 - Regarding P7P 5G model numbers and capabilities, and how to determine your hardware version, although I don't have them organized by pairs. The one model number type at the top of the post, and the other at the bottom.

roirraW edor ehT said:
I agree with everything @EtherealRemnant said ⬆ right there. Google's not the only one, but certainly one of the brands I come across most often with this problem.
Edit: I forgot that I already have all the model number pairs in my Post #6 - Regarding P7P 5G model numbers and capabilities, and how to determine your hardware version, although I don't have them organized by pairs. The one model number type at the top of the post, and the other at the bottom.
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Thanks guys. Just taking a look at the options. I was hoping to find someone that could unlock AT&T's but I'm not really finding anyone reputable that claims they can do it. So I'm thinking Google's offering the best deal with the trade in. I'm looking at getting the 256GB Obsidian.
AT&T's model is listed as the GE2AE if you look for how it's set up. Not sure if any sub-branding.
And I take it I'll actually be able to use AT&T's 5G if I buy out unlocked, correct?
Lastly, if either of you want to PM me a referral, I'd appreciate it.

Superguy said:
Thanks guys. Just taking a look at the options. I was hoping to find someone that could unlock AT&T's but I'm not really finding anyone reputable that claims they can do it.
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I thought anyone with an at&t model could unlock once you pay the phone off, like t-mobile, but I'm not experienced, I've only bought carrier unlocked phones for the last six years and I had come from Verizon back then.
But it is indeed easiest not to have to deal with the carriers and just buy the factory carrier unlocked model direct from Google, or Best Buy, or other places that offer them.
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AT&T's model is listed as the GE2AE if you look for how it's set up. Not sure if any sub-branding.
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Thanks, good to know.
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And I take it I'll actually be able to use AT&T's 5G if I buy out unlocked, correct?
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Yes. That won't affect anything like that.

Superguy said:
And I take it I'll actually be able to use AT&T's 5G if I buy out unlocked, correct?
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Yep. We don't have C-band here but my Boost SIM is connected to 5G Nationwide and the phone supports mmWave and C-band.

roirraW edor ehT said:
I thought anyone with an at&t model could unlock once you pay the phone off, like t-mobile, but I'm not experienced, I've only bought carrier unlocked phones for the last six years and I had come from Verizon back then.
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They'll do that. I just don't want to wait.
Not like I'd bolt to another carrier. We tried T-Mo last summer and that's a fiasco I never want to repeat. Plus AT&T gives me a really good deal with a FAN from work.

Superguy said:
They'll do that. I just don't want to wait.
Not like I'd bolt to another carrier. We tried T-Mo last summer and that's a fiasco I never want to repeat. Plus AT&T gives me a really good deal with a FAN from work.
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Understandable. I had to Google what AT&T FAN is. I didn't know the abbreviation off the top of my head, but Google's search results were actually helpful. I used to use a work discount too with AT&T and before that, one with Verizon. The last four years, give or take, we've just been using AT&T Prepaid, and it's been cheaper than all our previous options and works great for our usage. Every once in a while I look at other options or carriers, but there's nothing enticing enough.