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somebody could teach me the easiest way to replace kinguser with supersu please?
dewagame said:
somebody could teach me the easiest way to replace kinguser with supersu please?
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Follow these simple steps:
1. Go to the Play Store and install SuperSU.
2. When SuperSU is installed, give it permission as Super User.
3. Uninstall KingUser.
4. Done.
ИΘΘK¡€ said:
Follow these simple steps:
1. Go to the Play Store and install SuperSU.
2. When SuperSU is installed, give it permission as Super User.
3. Uninstall KingUser.
4. Done.
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hI! I try on my HUAWEI ASCEND G6 and... dont work ... is possibel that an update that Kinguser had done make it impossibel?????
I root with RootGenius_en, was ok, kinguser ask for a update, done. But Now i whant to change do SuperSu and dont work. I had permissions and every thing...
Help! :crying:
Me too
I'm trying to do this too, but I aint sure how to do it. I mean I guess if its not super necessary I can leave it the way it is. Tried this method and its a no go. I don't think the KingUser SU is letting superSU update its binaries. I already have twrp, but not sure what next. If its not necessary I'll leave it alone, but I was just wondering if theres any reason to change over or if it could even be done.
P.S This way never worked for me as superSU can't get past trying to install the binaries. I got twrp so I'm wondering if I'd have to flash it. Nothings wrong on my end are anything, but I just assumed having superSU would be better then kinguser but not really sure.
many people have this problem.
first of all, kinguser is great to root the G6, and in most cases the only working method without custom recovery,
but because it flashes kinguser.apk as system app you can't uninstall it the normal way.
the solution is to flash supersu.zip and then uninstall kinguser. this way supersu will be your systemapp.
find the files and tutorials you need on our facebook group,
we have 1500+ members, CWM + TWRP, android 4.3 + 4.4, we can root your g6 and unlock your bootloader.
but we still don't have a subforum on XDA....
https://www.facebook.com/groups/328261053999820
Must vary from device to device cause I've did all that, and it gives the message "Installing Please wait..." and then after it fails it says " Installation Failed! Please reboot and try again" and if kinguser is removed in superSU when trying to update/install the binaries it says "There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem! If just upgraded to Android 4.3 you need to manually re-root- consult the relevant forums for your device."
This aint the g6 though but this thread is the kinguser replace with superSU thread. So I thought I'd post in it.
washichi said:
many people have this problem.
first of all, kinguser is great to root the G6, and in most cases the only working method without custom recovery,
but because it flashes kinguser.apk as system app you can't uninstall it the normal way.
the solution is to flash supersu.zip and then uninstall kinguser. this way supersu will be your systemapp.
find the files and tutorials you need on our facebook group,
we have 1500+ members, CWM + TWRP, android 4.3 + 4.4, we can root your g6 and unlock your bootloader.
but we still don't have a subforum on XDA....
https://www.facebook.com/groups/328261053999820
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Install SuperSu rom magazin play.
Then instal rom lite box.
Open the app, and uninstall kinguser
easy, and it`s working.I just deleted kinguser 2 mins ago
Hum
@andruala Never worked for me that way, anytime I remove king user root gets removed. Never was able to flash superSU rom correctly because binaries couldn't get updated from superSU because root was removed once king user was uninstalled. I've heard people mention it working the way you suggested, but I've also read posts where people have a hard time getting it replaced with superSU because root gets removed when king user is replaced, which doesn't allow superSU to install the binaries correctly. Most people probably can't get the binaries installed correctly from superSU which is the same problem I had so they end up just leaving it king user. I could try whats suggested here but I very much doubt its going to work as explained from my conflict that when king user is removed, root is removed and whether you flash a SU zip or not root still aint enabled because SU binaries are nt installed correctly. So until I actually can confirm this works myself I'm gonna prob say its a no-go for me. Could be device specific but I did all this to a tee and still had problems. There was a post on freak tab where someone had the same problem. I might still try this, I just dont see it working like as said.
freestilesteve said:
@andruala Never worked for me that way, anytime I remove king user root gets removed. Never was able to flash superSU rom correctly because binaries couldn't get updated from superSU because root was removed once king user was uninstalled. I've heard people mention it working the way you suggested, but I've also read posts where people have a hard time getting it replaced with superSU because root gets removed when king user is replaced, which doesn't allow superSU to install the binaries correctly. Most people probably can't get the binaries installed correctly from superSU which is the same problem I had so they end up just leaving it king user. I could try whats suggested here but I very much doubt its going to work as explained from my conflict that when king user is removed, root is removed and whether you flash a SU zip or not root still aint enabled because SU binaries are nt installed correctly. So until I actually can confirm this works myself I'm gonna prob say its a no-go for me. Could be device specific but I did all this to a tee and still had problems. There was a post on freak tab where someone had the same problem. I might still try this, I just dont see it working like as said.
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Yes...i`m really sorry.For me wit worked before i restarted the phone...
After de restart i`ve seen that the root is not working anymore...
Sorry for my bad.
No worries bro. Probably varies depending on how you root from device to device.
Its not your fault. No worries. I'm just thinking it varies from device to device and how you actually go about rooting . I'm also thinking that maybe if I rooted with another app/prog that it would have been easier to switch from king user to superSU. I use lookout premium security on my phone and kingroot and king user have never been flagged with any viruses so I've just left it on and running the way it is and so far so good. Other then the two errors I mentioned in the previous post king user/kingroot has been working good. I'm sure if I did a whole restore/wipe/clean and root with another program there might be a possibility to remove king user and replace with superSU but in the end I just decided to roll with king user/kingroot as I didn't feel like doing al that and its been doing its job fine.
QUOTE=andruala;58880236]Yes...i`m really sorry.For me wit worked before i restarted the phone...
After de restart i`ve seen that the root is not working anymore...
Sorry for my bad.[/QUOTE]
Well I thought about leaving kinguser sitting there on my system too until one day I installed network monitor stuff and noticed kinguser sure likes to make HTTP connections every time the Internet is available. Imagine that. Also have a look, there are /system/bin/.usr/.ku etc. hiding all over your system.
The earlier versions of Kingo Root were much better
jidanni said:
Well I thought about leaving kinguser sitting there on my system too until one day I installed network monitor stuff and noticed kinguser sure likes to make HTTP connections every time the Internet is available. Imagine that. Also have a look, there are /system/bin/.usr/.ku etc. hiding all over your system.
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Those earlier versions were putting SuperSU binaries into the root. But now they are putting on this King User crap. Reason I say it's crap is exactly what you mentioned. As soon as I root a phone with Kingo Root, Google Search immediately tells me that it will not allow me to search for anything because "your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now"
Good God! What the heck is Kingo Root putting onto these phones now? It sure isn't putting just su binaries in there.
Indeed. What is needed is for someone to take a vanilla phone into a cleanroom, install the mess, and report back on exactly what ended up getting put where, in order for somebody to make a "kinguser detox/.antidote" APP and/or shell scripts that would clean the mess totally back off.
don't know if it's gonna help you ( have alcatel onetouch idol 2 mini s):
i also couldn't update binaries su and had kinguser.
then i downloaded the beta version of supersu (on xda) and flashed it with my cwm. after that when supersu asked if i wanted to update, i said yes and choose normal update (not the cwm/t... one) it than updates and asked if i wanted to remove the external root apps (ie: kinguser) and voila!
(sorry English isn't my language, so don't know if i explained myself well^^)
satine01black said:
don't know if it's gonna help you ( have alcatel onetouch idol 2 mini s):
i also couldn't update binaries su and had kinguser.
then i downloaded the beta version of supersu (on xda) and flashed it with my cwm. after that when supersu asked if i wanted to update, i said yes and choose normal update (not the cwm/t... one) it than updates and asked if i wanted to remove the external root apps (ie: kinguser) and voila!
(sorry English isn't my language, so don't know if i explained myself well^^)
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Why did you need to root with kingo if you have custom recovery?!
I rooted first then found the cwm for my phone?
satine01black said:
I rooted first then found the cwm for my phone?
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Oh. I wasn't angry at you Was just asking.
it took me like a year to root my phone then i couldn't make it work well with kinguser, and i wanted supersu anyway, so i found that i could install manually the app with cwm .
anyway, i don't now if you can use cwm without a root?
satine01black said:
it took me like a year to root my phone then i couldn't make it work well with kinguser, and i wanted supersu anyway, so i found that i could install manually the app with cwm .
anyway, i don't now if you can use cwm without a root?
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You can, but it doesn't really make much sense to.
Use Eroot, then try superSU installation
CVAngelo said:
Those earlier versions were putting SuperSU binaries into the root. But now they are putting on this King User crap. Reason I say it's crap is exactly what you mentioned. As soon as I root a phone with Kingo Root, Google Search immediately tells me that it will not allow me to search for anything because "your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now"
Good God! What the heck is Kingo Root putting onto these phones now? It sure isn't putting just su binaries in there.
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I had the same issue with my mobile, (Sony Ericsson Xperia Ray (ST18i)), I then rooted my phone with EROOT Software which installed a superuser app, then i got the .apk file of SuperSU via Bluetooth from a friend and installed it. one has to grant permission when it asks for superuser rights, then updating binary files is no longer a problem. It also asks for removal of the Superuser-app that was pushed through the EROOT software, you do that. Then I installed link2SD and link2sd pro key from google play store and converted the SuperSU app into a system-app. Now SuperSU is working perfectly again.
You both should try it!!
In our project we "lock down" the device and let only our homescreen app running.
therefore we remove all unnecessary apps, and wondering if we can remove superuser or supersu.apk
of course we need root rights, but we dont need the controlling app
we have tested it on many devices, there are a lot where we could remove supersu.akp and our app kept the root right, but on many other devices we lost the root when we removed it
is there anything we have to handle before we remove it, or how does it work?
thanks,
@oisiss, root is dependent on whether or not there are the su binaries existent in /system/bin (among other things). SuperSU is just a root management app, and its being installed does not affect the root access in the device.
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@oisiss, root is dependent on whether or not there are the su binaries existent in /system/bin (among other things). SuperSU is just a root management app, and its being installed does not affect the root access in the device.
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Hello, thank you for your reply, but i have to disagree:
1., to check whether the device is rooted or not is not as simple to check if the su binary exists in the /system/bin folder. even if that exists it can happen that our app (and of course many others: rootchecker, es file explorer...) doesnt get admin rights
2., if it would be so simple the root checker app in the google play wouldnt have 10M-50M downloads
3., in our app we also check if the device is rooted, for that we check 5-6 methods: if the su exists, remounting rw the system foder, run su command, create and delete file in a secured folder...
4., many threads talking about how to replace supersu with superuser. all is telling to install superuser first and only after remove the original supersu, so they never mention to remove supersu firts
we have in our lab aprx 60 devices, made many tests, and this is my question:
1., when there is a properly rooted rom, checked by rootchecker.apk
2., we delete supersu.apk from the system/bin and restart the device
3., we check with rootchecker.akk again and says unrooted
so is there any hidden settings somewhere where for example there are default setting for granting or denying root request? or why do we loose the admin righs
I think there is an aswer:
if the original root was not complete (http://su.chainfire.eu/), it can cause issues
the Install-recovery.sh has to be corrected before deleting the supersu.apk (su, daemonsu...)
can someone confirm this?
oisiss said:
Hello, thank you for your reply, but i have to disagree:
1., to check whether the device is rooted or not is not as simple to check if the su binary exists in the /system/bin folder. even if that exists it can happen that our app (and of course many others: rootchecker, es file explorer...) doesnt get admin rights
2., if it would be so simple the root checker app in the google play wouldnt have 10M-50M downloads
3., in our app we also check if the device is rooted, for that we check 5-6 methods: if the su exists, remounting rw the system foder, run su command, create and delete file in a secured folder...
4., many threads talking about how to replace supersu with superuser. all is telling to install superuser first and only after remove the original supersu, so they never mention to remove supersu firts
we have in our lab aprx 60 devices, made many tests, and this is my question:
1., when there is a properly rooted rom, checked by rootchecker.apk
2., we delete supersu.apk from the system/bin and restart the device
3., we check with rootchecker.akk again and says unrooted
so is there any hidden settings somewhere where for example there are default setting for granting or denying root request? or why do we loose the admin righs
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Please notice how I phrased it like this:
NOOKIE said:
...root is dependent on whether or not there are the su binaries existent in /system/bin (among other things).
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I am fully aware that root is not as simple as su being in /system/bin. :silly:
oisiss said:
I think there is an aswer:
if the original root was not complete (http://su.chainfire.eu/), it can cause issues
the Install-recovery.sh has to be corrected before deleting the supersu.apk (su, daemonsu...)
can someone confirm this?
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Yes, this sounds right. :good:
Does anyone have experience with turning a user app into a system app on 9.0?
I tried using terminal emulator + app systemizer on magisk and Link2DS both ways have corrupted the phone.
kittygotwet said:
Does anyone have experience with turning a user app into a system app on 9.0?
I tried using terminal emulator + app systemizer on magisk and Link2DS both ways have corrupted the phone.
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Are you able to recover? If so, you may have to settle without it. I know Systemizer works on 8.1, but I didn't try it on 9.0 before I downgraded. I'm not aware of any other options besides manually moving it, but that would break your systemless root, and would also need to be done after every update.
If you can't recover but can get into fastboot, you can boot into TWRP and flash "Magisk Mount". That will allow you to remove the Systemizer module manually from the Magisk image and boot back into the OS. As for Link2SD, I've never used it, so I'm not sure what changes it made that would have to be undone in order to recover.
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Are you able to recover? If so, you may have to settle without it. I know Systemizer works on 8.1, but I didn't try it on 9.0 before I downgraded. I'm not aware of any other options besides manually moving it, but that would break your systemless root, and would also need to be done after every update.
If you can't recover but can get into fastboot, you can boot into TWRP and flash "Magisk Mount". That will allow you to remove the Systemizer module manually from the Magisk image and boot back into the OS. As for Link2SD, I've never used it, so I'm not sure what changes it made that would have to be undone in order to recover.
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I just flash-all to fix it then reroot with Magisk. How do I convert an app to system through recovery (in twrp)?
kittygotwet said:
I just flash-all to fix it then reroot with Magisk. How do I convert an app to system through recovery (in twrp)?
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As long as you dont care about remaining systemless and passing SafetyNet, you could simply move the apk folder into the system app folder manually. You could do it either through TWRP's built in file manager, or do it live with a root capable file manager. Either way should work.
Again, it's not ideal as it will trip SafetyNet and must be done after every ROM update/flash. So, if you have anything that depends on SafetyNet, that's not an option for you.
Another possibility would be to look at the Magisk documentation for module building and make your own module which would inject whatever apk you need systemlessly. You could accelerate the learning process by downloading one that already does something similar and reverse engineering it to fit your needs.
jallenhayslett said:
As long as you dont care about remaining systemless and passing SafetyNet, you could simply move the apk folder into the system app folder manually. You could do it either through TWRP's built in file manager, or do it live with a root capable file manager. Either way should work.
Again, it's not ideal as it will trip SafetyNet and must be done after every ROM update/flash. So, if you have anything that depends on SafetyNet, that's not an option for you.
Another possibility would be to look at the Magisk documentation for module building and make your own module which would inject whatever apk you need systemlessly. You could accelerate the learning process by downloading one that already does something similar and reverse engineering it to fit your needs.
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damn, i need safetynet for google pay. crap hopefully the apps update for 9.0 and fixes itself.
There's no answer to asked questions before, So i might want to start this.
Is there any OLD SCHOOL SuperSU which work as granting Root Access instead of Magisk?
I don't like magisk, too many unused feature. I just want it like the old SuperSU back then, just granting root access and no other thing like magisk does.
Can the dev bring back the simplicity to where it was before?
mpoendi said:
There's no answer to asked questions before, So i might want to start this.
Is there any OLD SCHOOL SuperSU which work as granting Root Access instead of Magisk?
I don't like magisk, too many unused feature. I just want it like the old SuperSU back then, just granting root access and no other thing like magisk does.
Can the dev bring back the simplicity to where it was before?
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If you are using an old school OS, then use SuperSU. But if you are using a current OS, especially 9 or 10, then your only option for root is Magisk. The complexity of modem rooting and then accessing many of the features people want from root is what Magisk focuses on.
If you don't care about certified play store, Google pay, bank or other apps that won't work, etc, then just flash Magisk in recovery (if your one of the lucky ones who have a working recovery), install the manager and ignore all of the "features". Unless you inadvertently give access or block access to an app, you may never need to open the manager.
It updated today, and now I can't open it and I keep getting error messages to say it keeps stopping.
I'd been holding off on the update because I knew there was something going on with the developer going to Google and all the root/hide stuff being disabled. Not sure how to roll back or what to do.
koberulz said:
It updated today, and now I can't open it and I keep getting error messages to say it keeps stopping.
I'd been holding off on the update because I knew there was something going on with the developer going to Google and all the root/hide stuff being disabled. Not sure how to roll back or what to do.
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Can you uninstall Magisk and install the stable or last working canary app?
simplepinoi177 said:
Can you uninstall Magisk and install the stable or last working canary app?
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No clue, I'm not sure what its status is these days. That's why I was hesitant to update (I've also been knocking back the Android 12 system update for the same reason).
koberulz said:
No clue, I'm not sure what its status is these days. That's why I was hesitant to update (I've also been knocking back the Android 12 system update for the same reason).
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You can't uninstall the Magisk app; like from the App section in Settings or app info of the app? I'm not talking about the applied Magisk patched boot image.
Because I'm thinking you can just uninstall the Magisk app (as it's glitching and force closing), and try installing the stable or earlier canary builds...
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You can't uninstall the Magisk app; like from the App section in Settings or app info of the app? I'm not talking about the applied Magisk patched boot image.
Because I'm thinking you can just uninstall the Magisk app (as it's glitching and force closing), and try installing the stable or earlier canary builds...
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I don't know how that would affect root, or Magisk hide, as I know a lot of that has been nuked since topjohnwu got hired at Google.
I also currently have Magisk hiding itself, which may make even an uninstall difficult if I even knew what to install over the top of it.
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I don't know how that would affect root, or Magisk hide, as I know a lot of that has been nuked since topjohnwu got hired at Google.
I also currently have Magisk hiding itself, which may make even an uninstall difficult if I even knew what to install over the top of it.
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Uninstalling the Magisk Manager app would not affect root; you might not be able to run certain rooted apps properly without granting them root access, but that's because of not having the Magisk app to grant it.
I don't know about topjohnwu being hired and working for Google or what not, but Magisk is still being currently worked on and developed so it has not been "nuked"...
How is Magisk Manager hidden "itself" if you claim you attempt to run the app and it force-closes? The only way for Magisk Manager to "hide itself" is that it merely renames itself (to a name you can choose; default is "Settings") so it's not detected by any root detection. In any case, you should be able to find it in the Apps list in Settings/Apps, and uninstall it that way.
As to what to install over the top of it, installing the latest stable 25.2 would be the best idea -- the Magisk App does not need to match the version that is patched and flashed to your boot partition...
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I don't know about topjohnwu being hired and working for Google or what not, but Magisk is still being currently worked on and developed so it has not been "nuked"...
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My understanding was that he got hired and they said he had to give it up, there was some negotiation and they let him continue working on it as long as Magisk Hide was removed as a feature.
But this isn't something that really interests me all that much, so I don't keep up with the news on it. I more just check in whenever I get a new phone in order to figure out how to root it.
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How is Magisk Manager hidden "itself" if you claim you attempt to run the app and it force-closes? The only way for Magisk Manager to "hide itself" is that it merely renames itself (to a name you can choose; default is "Settings")
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Yes, this is what I was referring to.
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Yes, this is what I was referring to.
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koberulz said:
It updated today, and now I can't open it and I keep getting error messages to say it keeps stopping.
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Again, I ask, as you stated; you try to open it -- so you must know what name it's under then (even though it's hidden since it being hidden is just it hiding its name) -- and it keeps force closing or stopping... so why can't you find the app details and uninstall it?
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Again, I ask, as you stated; you try to open it -- so you must know what name it's under then (even though it's hidden since it being hidden is just it hiding its name) -- and it keeps force closing or stopping... so why can't you find the app details and uninstall it?
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Because I don't know how that will affect root/hide. I'm not sure what the status of Magisk is these days.
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Because I don't know how that will affect root/hide. I'm not sure what the status of Magisk is these days.
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Magisk is pretty much the only way to root at this point -- I just learnt of another method KernelSU, but it seems pretty basic, especially in comparison to Magisk -- and the status of Magisk is that it is still very much active and actively developed; as it is the sole rooting method for numerous Android running devices, not just Pixels.
Your original issue is that Magisk Manager isn't working properly after updating and seems to be freezing/force-closing. The standard way of fixing that is to uninstall/remove the Magisk Manager app and re-install it (either the stable version or an earlier canary version that had worked previously).
Removing Magisk Manager app will NOT affect root and/or the patched boot partition. It WILL affect granting apps root access and will affect Magisk Hide (or Zygisk DenyList) -- but that will only last as far/long as rebooting and re-installing the Magisk Manager app. Once you re-install it, you will gain all of that back; it is only momentarily lost in between the uninstallation and re-installation.
simplepinoi177 said:
Magisk is pretty much the only way to root at this point -- I just learnt of another method KernelSU, but it seems pretty basic, especially in comparison to Magisk -- and the status of Magisk is that it is still very much active and actively developed; as it is the sole rooting method for numerous Android running devices, not just Pixels.
Your original issue is that Magisk Manager isn't working properly after updating and seems to be freezing/force-closing. The standard way of fixing that is to uninstall/remove the Magisk Manager app and re-install it (either the stable version or an earlier canary version that had worked previously).
Removing Magisk Manager app will NOT affect root and/or the patched boot partition. It WILL affect granting apps root access and will affect Magisk Hide (or Zygisk DenyList) -- but that will only last as far/long as rebooting and re-installing the Magisk Manager app. Once you re-install it, you will gain all of that back; it is only momentarily lost in between the uninstallation and re-installation.
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Is there a dedicated Magisk thread? It's very difficult to find things on this forum, given how large it is.
koberulz said:
Is there a dedicated Magisk thread? It's very difficult to find things on this forum, given how large it is.
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There are 2 threads.
Magisk General Support / Discussion
This is the place for general support and discussion regarding "Public Releases", which includes both stable and beta releases. All information, including troubleshoot guides and notes, are in the Announcement Thread
forum.xda-developers.com
[Discussion] Magisk - The Age of Zygisk.
This is a discussion and help thread for the newer versions of Magisk. The main goal of this thread is to help users migrate to Magisk v24+ SafetyNet Basic integrity Pass CTS profile match Pass Play Protect certification Device is certified...
forum.xda-developers.com
What's the difference?
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What's the difference?
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dcarvil said:
There are 2 threads.
Magisk General Support / Discussion
This is the place for general support and discussion regarding "Public Releases", which includes both stable and beta releases. All information, including troubleshoot guides and notes, are in the Announcement Thread
forum.xda-developers.com
[Discussion] Magisk - The Age of Zygisk.
This is a discussion and help thread for the newer versions of Magisk. The main goal of this thread is to help users migrate to Magisk v24+ SafetyNet Basic integrity Pass CTS profile match Pass Play Protect certification Device is certified...
forum.xda-developers.com
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The first one is the first, general Magisk thread (that is still active and currently discussed). The second is as it is stated in the headline -- "This is a discussion and help thread for the newer versions of Magisk".
Most likely this is where you should go for your issues -- and to see how actively developed it is currently being.
It's just as you said, you've been away from rooting/Magisk for a while; the newer version of Magisk contains/employs Zygisk -- "Zygisk is new generation Magisk hide...Zygisk is what the Magisk developers call running Magisk in the Zygote Process of Android. The Zygote Process is the first process that the OS starts when it boots up, ... Since zygote starts first after system, it can hide root without sending data to apps." (source) As such, that's why a new thread was created and why it is sub-titled as "The Age of Zygisk"...
*but there are many more methods of hiding root than Zygisk (or in conjunction with); Shamiko, Magisk Delta, HideMyApp, etc.
In the end, I'm sure they'll suggest what I've suggested to you in some fashion -- you'll have to uninstall the Magisk Manager (hidden or not), and re-install the stable or earlier canary versions. But it'll be better coming from the people in that thread...
Good luck!