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[Q] System Bar Disappointment

I took hold of my transformer yesterday and love every aspect of it bar one.
The one issue that means I'm probably going to send it back is the Honeycombs inability to hide the system bar.
I really only purchased the tablet to use as a portfolio device (I'm a photographer). I wanted to take advantage of the high resolution screen to show off my images at 1280x800 but the system bar sits on top of everything totally ruining the look of images/video. Not being able to hide the system bar is a huge oversight by the Honeycomb developers and sadly probably means I'm going to have to switch to a bloody I-pad 2, which I would prefer not to do.
Does anybody know of any tricks to hide the system bar?

I dont have my transformer/honeycomb yet but when i look at images/videos on my xperia mini pro using the gallery app they are full screen.
You can try using LauncherPro because it has a 'hide notification bar' setting in the preferences. Not sure if it just works for the homescreen or all apps.

Gareth Iwan Jones said:
I took hold of my transformer yesterday and love every aspect of it bar one.
The one issue that means I'm probably going to send it back is the Honeycombs inability to hide the system bar.
I really only purchased the tablet to use as a portfolio device (I'm a photographer). I wanted to take advantage of the high resolution screen to show off my images at 1280x800 but the system bar sits on top of everything totally ruining the look of images/video. Not being able to hide the system bar is a huge oversight by the Honeycomb developers and sadly probably means I'm going to have to switch to a bloody I-pad 2, which I would prefer not to do.
Does anybody know of any tricks to hide the system bar?
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There are apps that let you force full screen mode.
Also I use it for showing my portfolio and the default gallery fades the icons. Besides I can tell you showing your portfolio on this generally is not a good idea, unless its just a quick show, don't ever use it for interviews.

seshmaru said:
There are apps that let you force full screen mode.
Also I use it for showing my portfolio and the default gallery fades the icons. Besides I can tell you showing your portfolio on this generally is not a good idea, unless its just a quick show, don't ever use it for interviews.
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What are the name of the apps?
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seshmaru said:
There are apps that let you force full screen mode.
Also I use it for showing my portfolio and the default gallery fades the icons. Besides I can tell you showing your portfolio on this generally is not a good idea, unless its just a quick show, don't ever use it for interviews.
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I've seen the hiding of the icons but it still leaves a large black bar across the bottom of the screen. The images need to fill the screen.
Why is it not a good idea to use this as a portfolio apart from the system bar problem?
Also I've tried a few other launchers ADW and Launcher pro neither of them can hide the system bar.

Gareth Iwan Jones said:
I've seen the hiding of the icons but it still leaves a large black bar across the bottom of the screen. The images need to fill the screen.
Why is it not a good idea to use this as a portfolio apart from the system bar problem?
Also I've tried a few other launchers ADW and Launcher pro neither of them can hide the system bar.
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It's good for a quick show at lets say a get together, but for an interview or client the screen really isn't big enough to see the details for most people. Maybe you can because you're used to it, but other people tend to have trouble with it.

seshmaru said:
It's good for a quick show at lets say a get together, but for an interview or client the screen really isn't big enough to see the details for most people. Maybe you can because you're used to it, but other people tend to have trouble with it.
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I see what you mean.
Do you know the name of any of the apps that force full screen?
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Gareth Iwan Jones said:
I see what you mean.
Do you know the name of any of the apps that force full screen?
Thanks
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haven't looked at specific gallery apps that do it but I know a few other apps I use that can do it.
EDIT: The use of the tablet for portfolio needs is from experience by the way an instance where I did find it useful if I went to some launch party or similar to show it to people or when I'm touching base with clients to give them a rough idea of what it will look like (wireframes and such), I do photography and graphic design by the way.

Sadly I think I am going to have to accept defeat on this.
I'm sure someone will create a launcher that can hide the System bar in the future but I don't want to wait around for that to happen.
I'ts such a shame as otherwise it's a lovely tablet but with the system bar in the way the images will only ever be 1280 x 700 with a black line across the bottom.
I can not find any apps that force full screen they all leave the system bar in place.
Quick Pic was brilliant in fullscreen in Android 2.2 but Honeycomb has rendered it less effective.

Gareth Iwan Jones said:
Sadly I think I am going to have to accept defeat on this.
I'm sure someone will create a launcher that can hide the System bar in the future but I don't want to wait around for that to happen.
I'ts such a shame as otherwise it's a lovely tablet but with the system bar in the way the images will only ever be 1280 x 700 with a black line across the bottom.
I can not find any apps that force full screen they all leave the system bar in place.
Quick Pic was brilliant in fullscreen in Android 2.2 but Honeycomb has rendered it less effective.
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The system bar actually takes up 50px from the bottom, not 100.

seshmaru said:
The system bar actually takes up 50px from the bottom, not 100.
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50px too many

The 3.1 SDK was just announced and provides developers with control of the visibility system items such as the bar. I suspect in a few weeks this will no longer be an issue.

jerrykur said:
The 3.1 SDK was just announced and provides developers with control of the visibility system items such as the bar. I suspect in a few weeks this will no longer be an issue.
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Yes that does sound promising. It's just deciding whether to hold out...

Gareth Iwan Jones said:
Yes that does sound promising. It's just deciding whether to hold out...
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In the end it's more do you want android or iOS.
I do however own an iPad 2 and I gotta say the transformers screen is equal in quality, and has an edge over the iPad even with the black bar due to resolution and size.

I'm having issues with the system bar too. I'm trying to create a PDF brochure/demo but the 50px bar ***** up the full zoom mode as the PDF pages are 1280x800.
I'm using ezPDF - does anyone know an alternative which can force full screen mode and hide the system bar?

never ceases to amaze me what people whine about

Just because it doesn't matter to you doesn't make it unimportant.

seshmaru said:
In the end it's more do you want android or iOS.
I do however own an iPad 2 and I gotta say the transformers screen is equal in quality, and has an edge over the iPad even with the black bar due to resolution and size.
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Yeah, that extra resolution is awesome...
I go back to my iPad 2 and I really notice it.

bleclair said:
Just because it doesn't matter to you doesn't make it unimportant.
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true, however, returning a device that is 3 weeks old, with brand new firmware, because 50pixels worth of the screen is displayed when you are demo-ing photos is a tad ridiculous. Demoing hi-res photography on 1280x800 10'' screen is already ridiculous, but i digress. How much extra detail is the client really going to experience from 50 pixels worth... come on now, its just plain ol' *****ing. And the smooth reference of 'well the ipad2 doesn't do that' rubbed me the wrong way. Ipad2 is a great device, maybe the OP should return his TF and get the ipad2

I bought a Samsung Galaxy Tab recently and was seriously bummed out to see the retarded behavior of the photo gallery.
The built-in gallery works right on my Samsung Android phone. And it hits all the right notes on my Galaxy Tab 7" as well. Just as it did on my ipad.
Honeycomb gallery is extremely dumb. It just makes me mad every time I have to use it.
I guess I'll have to just write my own. Watch for it on Android Market in a few weeks. I might as well start taking feature requests and name suggestions for the app.

Need help- white space line on up side after wirmware updating

hi Folks.
I can share with you my trouble there is the white thin space upper then toolbar
So When I have 2.3.2 wirmware it was hidden at all - I have not got it but now I update my Samsung Skyrocket and it is apparent
How can I fix it? without wirmware updating/ what's wrong I do ?

That looks to be a battery bar, is it not?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda premium

That line indicates your battery percentage. It's called Team Battery bar. Some custom roms come with it. The service can be disabled easily. Just find the app and you can uncheck a checkbox. Great functionality, but from an aesthetic point of view, it is a train wreck. It is the first thing I turn off.

thanks. e... guys you are right I just plugin my device ti the charger and prove your versions. But how I can block the line ?

Pacifican said:
thanks. e... guys you are right I just plugin my device ti the charger and prove your versions. But how I can block the line ?
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Settings -> Applications -> All Applications -> Team Battery Bar -> Disable.

Thank you. I fixed it.

Pacifican said:
Thank you. I fixed it.
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Thanks so funny! Most people love this feature. Maybe you should give it a try. Change it's color to something you like.
That was an MIUI only feature for the longest. I use it on all my devices and have for years.

So I know thats the question do not related with the topic but guys
How can I add Russian language on keyboard with the switcher option to switch English-Russian, I guess some kinds of modes on Playstore is allowed to get it- but I don't which one is good for the firmware
Many thanks
PS: Android 4.0 is brilliant. I so happy with that.

scottx . said:
Thanks so funny! Most people love this feature. Maybe you should give it a try. Change it's color to something you like.
That was an MIUI only feature for the longest. I use it on all my devices and have for years.
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oh, Scott I understood what you mean but at the Team battery Bar where I check battery volume in digits and levels diagram + I have colorspace level in line view:laugh:. ...
I guess it looks pretty complicated for me - data dublicating
I know the suggestion is lock digits and diagram view but how can i do it ?

[Q] clock (night time charging)

is there anyway to have the clock show on the screen and use it as a bed side clock when you plug it in to charge ? this was a feature I used quite a bit back on my maxx days ?

mike_augie said:
is there anyway to have the clock show on the screen and use it as a bed side clock when you plug it in to charge ? this was a feature I used quite a bit back on my maxx days ?
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I use an app called Gentle Alarm that has a good night clock mode. It can be configured to automatically start when the phone enters charge/dock mode. Not free, but an excellent alarm clock app that gently brings you out of sleep.
Unfortunately, it doesn't get along with the ViperOne(M8) 1.4.1 ROM I'm currently using due to the nav key issue, but I expect that to be resolved within the next 24 hours.

mike_augie said:
is there anyway to have the clock show on the screen and use it as a bed side clock when you plug it in to charge ? this was a feature I used quite a bit back on my maxx days ?
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Daydreams can do that I believe, just set it to use Clock.

Daydream mode in your Display & gestures settings will allow that, like sfreemanoh said.
Other clock apps such as Timely will also have it, via Daydream.

raichur0xx0rz said:
Daydream mode in your Display & gestures settings will allow that, like sfreemanoh said.
Other clock apps such as Timely will also have it, via Daydream.
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ok thanks ...looked under my daydream .. all I have listed is colors or pictures ... will try timely and see .. thanks
timely works well for what I am needing ... thxs to all

mike_augie said:
ok thanks ...looked under my daydream .. all I have listed is colors or pictures ... will try timely and see .. thanks
timely works well for what I am needing ... thxs to all
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If you sideload the clock.apk from stock android, it appears as an option in Daydreams (I prefer it over the HTC clock since it allows you to have multiple timer countdowns going at once). I can upload it for you if you want, just let me know.

sfreemanoh said:
If you sideload the clock.apk from stock android, it appears as an option in Daydreams (I prefer it over the HTC clock since it allows you to have multiple timer countdowns going at once). I can upload it for you if you want, just let me know.
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That would be very awesome please ... And Thxs in advance

mike_augie said:
That would be very awesome please ... And Thxs in advance
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https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3KOAVVVLrt9OElSdW5Yc3Z0aGc&usp=sharing
Let me know if you can't access it, I haven't shared anything from Drive before.
Also, you may have to (since they're named the same thing in the launcher you may just want to do it anyway) freeze the existing Clock app. I did before loading this one, but I don't know if it was necessary or not.

sfreemanoh said:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3KOAVVVLrt9OElSdW5Yc3Z0aGc&usp=sharing
Let me know if you can't access it, I haven't shared anything from Drive before.
Also, you may have to (since they're named the same thing in the launcher you may just want to do it anyway) freeze the existing Clock app. I did before loading this one, but I don't know if it was necessary or not.
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Worked perfectly ty

mike_augie said:
Worked perfectly ty
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YW

I use Night Clock by Ned Fox, it's free, customizable, works with every version of Android I've used. It's in the app store.

[Personal Review] Galaxy S7 edge Nougat beta firmware

Hi guys here you have a proper review of the Nougat firmware for the S7 edge based on my personal experiences.
So I installed it yesterday night via odin thx to @laimonas777.
With my own experiences I can say it is not as nice as I had thought.. It's hard to use, it's full with small bugs and delays and sometimes it can even freeze up to 30 seconds (My experiences).
Every app has got the new GraceUI of the Galaxy Note 7 including the settings app.
One of the best Nougat features, the display scaling option has got "only" 2 different options which do not differ that much from the standard option.
Let's talk about the Notification panel. You now have 6 toggles visible at the top but you cant swipe anymore. When you pull the statusbar twice you will see 9 toggles per page. Its much harder to find one toggle you are searching for because of the 3 toggle pages. On Marshmallow all toggles were visible in one "page".
Also the colors could have been better but I think everyone has its own opinion there.
Something which is also weird is that you have a search bar on the notification panel but actually you cant type anything in there. Instead, this textfield will just open the finder app.
The camera has got newer options and a totally different but perfect UI which I really like. But the new color modes are actually not that important features and were also aviable partially in 6.0.
Lets move on to the recent apps panel, which is a big pain.. The recent items got taller just like in stock nougat but the scrolling is a very big pain. Its just as the android nougat developer preview 1 for nexus devices also there are some minor graphical glitches which I have shown in the video.
Another thing I want to mention are the notifications. And yes, they are ugly but i am sure samsung will fix that. On every notification where you can tap for an action (example whatsapp, to reply) is a grey bar, which looks horrible. You can see it in the attached ss
Performancewise it hasnt got big changes but dont forget the delays when opening some specific apps etc. The battery consumption is also a bit higher but all these will get fixed with the final build (hopefully).
But now lets talk about the positive things :silly:. The Multiwindow option has got much better than it was on all other touchwiz versions, in short, its almost the same as in stock android nougat. Another thing which is perfect is the Window apps mode where you can open apps in window mode. We all know how bad this option was in Touchwiz, maybe no one of you ever have used it but now the window mode is very good and snappy. The negative thing there is that you cant deactivate these both modes anymore. So always when you try to pull down the notification panel from the right or left top corner, it will just open the current app always in window mode which is quite annoying.
And something which is annoying like hell is that if you play a game like doodle jump where you dont need to touch the screen the screen always turns off after a while. So the auto screenoff option doesnt get disabled while playing games or (maybe) even while watching a movie.
Galaxy Labs is now removed, so now you cant get all apps on your homescreen and you cant hide the appdrawer.
Remember that this is a very early beta build, and all of these bugs are normal and wont be there in the finale build.
Here is a quick video about the update to see how it looks

What about a dark theme...it was rumoured that Android N will have a dark theme not only that light one. Also the existing themes in store (for Samsung) work properly on N or not?
Sent from nowhere over the air...

Rapier said:
What about a dark theme...it was rumoured that Android N will have a dark theme not only that light one. Also the existing themes in store (for Samsung) work properly on N or not?
Sent from nowhere over the air...
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also doesnt seem to be there

Keep in mind this is the frist beta released from samsung, so some things might hopefully change by the release of the final firmware. Also, you do have scaling other than going through the developer options. Go to Display -> Font and you will get to cgoose both the Screen zoom (which is set to almost huge idk why) and of course the font size. This comes to be as tha Normal and Condensed options back from marshmallow.

Hey glad to help. nice rview my friend. . :good:
P.S What happened to the hand?

I'm using the ota build and its running lovely to be fair
Touchwiz is rubbish anyways and just install nova which makes Icons smaller

laimonas777 said:
Hey glad to help. nice rview my friend. . :good:
P.S What happened to the hand?
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thank you
was just a normal sports injury :silly:
CFSlayer said:
Keep in mind this is the frist beta released from samsung, so some things might hopefully change by the release of the final firmware. Also, you do have scaling other than going through the developer options. Go to Display -> Font and you will get to cgoose both the Screen zoom (which is set to almost huge idk why) and of course the font size. This comes to be as tha Normal and Condensed options back from marshmallow.
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i know that is a very early beta build. i just wanted to show all annoying things in it :silly:
thanks for the corrections, in stock nougat there is an extra option for the display scaling. I didnt look in the font scale thought its just the normal font scaling

Hello, thank you for great review. Could you confirm one exciting feature of android 7 (atleast for me) that it works on this phone beta software.
As of Android 7.0 phone can read 2G/3G/LTE frequency without ROOT. Easiest way is to install app Cellmapper(mapping cell towers to map) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cellmapper.net.cellmapper&hl=en
Could you run this app and post screenshot while connected to LTE only(no wifi)? Also, maybe send debug report from settings menu to developer with screenshot.
Thank you

VeixES said:
Hello, thank you for great review. Could you confirm one exciting feature of android 7 (atleast for me) that it works on this phone beta software.
As of Android 7.0 phone can read 2G/3G/LTE frequency without ROOT. Easiest way is to install app Cellmapper(mapping cell towers to map) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cellmapper.net.cellmapper&hl=en
Could you run this app and post screenshot while connected to LTE only(no wifi)? Also, maybe send debug report from settings menu to developer with screenshot.
Thank you
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here you go.
debug report force closed the app

Strange review .... I have been using it also since yesterday, and it is faster and smoother then my MM stock ...
Agreed there is some laggs when double tapping the multi tasking bouton, but overall its snapier and more responsive.
Also I have not noticed any freeze. I find this beta very polished to be honest.
Have you done a full wipe before installing ? or OTA ?

TimurAlaskara_TR said:
sometimes it can even freeze for about 30 seconds.
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I don't have this

kenny17430 said:
Strange review .... I have been using it also since yesterday, and it is faster and smoother then my MM stock ...
Agreed there is some laggs when double tapping the multi tasking bouton, but overall its snapier and more responsive.
Have you done a full wipe before installing ? or OTA ?
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i flashed via odin as told in the beginning of the review
the firmware does a full wipe even wikthout asking ._.

Galactus said:
I don't have this
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it comes when i open some 3rd party apps.. like snapchat and youtube

TimurAlaskara_TR said:
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debug report force closed the app
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Thank you. Does not seem to report more info than in android 6.0.1. If you see LTE band reported on Cellmapper screen you can make another screenshot, but it seems that this functionality might not be there.

It's not a review, it's a rant. I literally have no issues with it, no freezes what so ever, it's actually snappier than MM.

I think the 'review' tag should be removed from this thread or it should be locked, as it is full of false information and the corrections to that false information have been given, but the 'review' hasn't been updated. If people read this thread thinking it is accurate, they will get false information.
The comment about display options, for instance, is just the OP not knowing what to do. It's not something wrong or an option that has been removed, it's just a lack of knowledge.

TimurAlaskara_TR said:
it comes when i open some 3rd party apps.. like snapchat and youtube
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Yeah, I don't get that with any app. The only thing a bit laggy is the "new window" tab animation in the browser and the notification bar. Apart from those two things, it is fine.

Hid3rs said:
It's not a review, it's a rant. I literally have no issues with it, no freezes what so ever, it's actually snappier than MM.
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Its a review based on my experiences
Robster83 said:
I think the 'review' tag should be removed from this thread or it should be locked, as it is full of false information and the corrections to that false information have been given, but the 'review' hasn't been updated. If people read this thread thinking it is accurate, they will get false information.
The comment about display options, for instance, is just the OP not knowing what to do. It's not something wrong or an option that has been removed, it's just a lack of knowledge.
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i am rewriting it chill out.
please

Galactus said:
Yeah, I don't get that with any app. The only thing a bit laggy is the "new window" tab animation in the browser and the notification bar. Apart from those two things, it is fine.
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lol this is something which i dont have :victory:

I can create a backup with Samsung Switch from Marshamallow and restore on Nougat ?

Pie multitasking

Hey guys I was wondering about the Pie update specifically multitasking I've noticed that in pixel phones you get live apps in multitasking screen and I was really excited for this feature but I just got my oneplus oneplus 6 2 weeks ago and I and I was surprised that it wasn't implemented so does anyone have an idea why it was cut out or even if its coming later in an incremental update?
Thanks in advance loving the phone btw

Do you have a video or something showing that? I've never heard about it.

Tomatot- said:
Do you have a video or something showing that? I've never heard about it.
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fast forward to 6:00

ahmad.magdy said:
fast forward to 6:00
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Do you mean copying from multitasking? Indeed I can't make it work but it doesn't like a huge absolutely needed feature.
Or do you mean having suggested apps at the bottom? I've actually never seen this feature on any other videos. Maybe it was only in the previews but it wasn't kept in final Pie?

Tomatot- said:
Do you mean copying from multitasking? Indeed I can't make it work but it doesn't like a huge absolutely needed feature.
Or do you mean having suggested apps at the bottom? I've actually never seen this feature on any other videos. Maybe it was only in the previews but it wasn't kept in final Pie?
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Yes copying text actually i think its an awesome feature if you email and text a lot

ahmad.magdy said:
Yes copying text actually i think its an awesome feature if you email and text a lot
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If you use the classic navigation buttons (back / home / recents), do you know that double tapping recents allows you to switch to the last app. I'm sure you'll find it as convenient if not more!

Tomatot- said:
If you use the classic navigation buttons (back / home / recents), do you know that double tapping recents allows you to switch to the last app. I'm sure you'll find it as convenient if not more!
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you can actually do that with new bar as well swipe where the multitasking used to be and it will switch between apps

ahmad.magdy said:
Yes copying text actually i think its an awesome feature if you email and text a lot
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Copying text from recents is a Google Pixel exclusive, no other phone has it. The only way to get it on other devices is to install Lawnchair along with Lawnstep, where this feature is/will be available (they were planning to add it, not sure if that happened already though).
EDIT: Ooor just use a custom ROM supporting this feature, should there be one.