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I just made the switch from BlackBerry to Android and the Relay seems like a good fit for me since I really can't stand touchscreen keyboards. I already unlocked the phone per the forum sticky since I'm on AT&T and it was a priority.
I *think* I want to install Cyanogenmod 10.2 (I'm a fan of using stable builds). When I look over the installation instructions, I'm a bit cornfused on step one:
There is an Important Note instructing users to install bootloader and radio firmware. How do I do that? The zip files it links to don't include any instructions or links to any instructions.
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I just made the switch from BlackBerry to Android and the Relay seems like a good fit for me since I really can't stand touchscreen keyboards. I already unlocked the phone per the forum sticky since I'm on AT&T and it was a priority.
I *think* I want to install Cyanogenmod 10.2 (I'm a fan of using stable builds). When I look over the installation instructions, I'm a bit cornfused on step one:
There is an Important Note instructing users to install bootloader and radio firmware. How do I do that? The zip files it links to don't include any instructions or links to any instructions.
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It pretty much means update to the latest ota available...which is T699UVBMC5 if you don't you'll have issues with signal and such...last I heard 10.2 had very rapid battery drain and stability issues but its possible they may be fixed but idk...most stable would be cm11 in terms of cyanogenmod but all my users say my latest carbon ROM is the most stable ROM available for relay as they go back to that if any issues arise in my other ROMs or teamapexq roms. Liquidsmooth ROM that I have has a lot of tweaks and mods and is fast and smooth...it gets updated the most as it is official and there is an ota within the ROM that whenever I release you can update it straight from phone without really having to do anything
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It pretty much means update to the latest ota available...which is T699UVBMC5 if you don't you'll have issues with signal and such...last I heard 10.2 had very rapid battery drain and stability issues but its possible they may be fixed but idk...most stable would be cm11 in terms of cyanogenmod but all my users say my latest carbon ROM is the most stable ROM available for relay as they go back to that if any issues arise in my other ROMs or teamapexq roms. Liquidsmooth ROM that I have has a lot of tweaks and mods and is fast and smooth...it gets updated the most as it is official and there is an ota within the ROM that whenever I release you can update it straight from phone without really having to do anything
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I'm having a hard time finding an install guide for anything other than CM. For carbon, I'm guessing it's located at vp-zp.com/snuzzo/roms/carbonrom/apexqtmo/kk/ ? Even that I got from googling and then backtracking links from a blog post, as the carbon webpage doesn't seem to have a Relay ROM listed.
To be honest, as a total n00b at this, I'm having a hard time pulling all the pieces together to understand the various different abbreviations, projects, download sources, etc. My goal is simply a nice stable build that is maintained, updated to support major features, but without adding issues, such you as mentioned there may be battery life issues in CM.
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I'm having a hard time finding an install guide for anything other than CM. For carbon, I'm guessing it's located at vp-zp.com/snuzzo/roms/carbonrom/apexqtmo/kk/ ? Even that I got from googling and then backtracking links from a blog post, as the carbon webpage doesn't seem to have a Relay ROM listed.
To be honest, as a total n00b at this, I'm having a hard time pulling all the pieces together to understand the various different abbreviations, projects, download sources, etc. My goal is simply a nice stable build that is maintained, updated to support major features, but without adding issues, such you as mentioned there may be battery life issues in CM.
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i've been running the M7 snapshot of CM11 for about a month now. my only complaint about battery isn't really the rom's fault - if i'm watching a lot of netflix or youtube, the battery goes down faster. that's not really a surprise though.
i'm still pretty new to the relay though i've had a couple other androids before this one. but i suggest you use TWRP (Team Win Recovery Project) instead of CWM (clockworkmod) for your recovery. it's got a gui and is a bit easier to use when flashing roms and doing wipes and stuff.
bsically the process is to boot your phone into download mode, flash twrp, then reboot the phone into twrp, wipe everything, then flash CM and gapps (if you want google apps like gmail, play store, etc). then wipe cache/dalvik/factory reset (because some roms are unstable if you simply flash without doing the second wipe). no need to try to inject SU (superuser) or anything since pretty much all custom roms are already rooted. there are other posts that go into more detail but this should about cover it.
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i've been running the M7 snapshot of CM11 for about a month now. my only complaint about battery isn't really the rom's fault - if i'm watching a lot of netflix or youtube, the battery goes down faster. that's not really a surprise though.
i'm still pretty new to the relay though i've had a couple other androids before this one. but i suggest you use TWRP (Team Win Recovery Project) instead of CWM (clockworkmod) for your recovery. it's got a gui and is a bit easier to use when flashing roms and doing wipes and stuff.
bsically the process is to boot your phone into download mode, flash twrp, then reboot the phone into twrp, wipe everything, then flash CM and gapps (if you want google apps like gmail, play store, etc). then wipe cache/dalvik/factory reset (because some roms are unstable if you simply flash without doing the second wipe). no need to try to inject SU (superuser) or anything since pretty much all custom roms are already rooted. there are other posts that go into more detail but this should about cover it.
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Where can I download TWRP for the Relay?
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Where can I download TWRP for the Relay?
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search for it in the relay forum - it has its own thread, i think in the dev sub-forum. instructions to install it are the same as cwm, just use the twrp file instead of cwm.
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search for it in the relay forum - it has its own thread, i think in the dev sub-forum. instructions to install it are the same as cwm, just use the twrp file instead of cwm.
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Thanks - I was just discovering that forum when you replied. I had looked right passed it initially since there isn't usually anything for me in dev forums for other projects I use.
Hi!
I'm new to this forums. I was led here by the people from another forums (LinusTechTips) since I was asking for help about rooting and modding my Samsung Galaxy S4.
Now, I really don't know anything about rooting or modding, but I just realized that my phone is starting to go slow, and there are some bloatwares I do not really use. I heard that if I root and mod my phone, all the bloatware can be erased and I will be able to have more space in my phone.
Can someone please link me or teach me how to root and mod my Samsung Galaxy S4? I've been reading around, but I am scared that the thread I am following is either out of date, or would not turn out well, so if you do have the time, please do help me!
Thanks!
Yours,
Veridisduo
Hey veris, i have a s4 GT-i9505 and i recently rooted it. First... did you get it by carrier? Just youtube this ( GT-i9505 (LTE, ATNT etc.) Root (Android version) sorry for bad english.
Yours, Jan
Veridisduo said:
Hi!
I'm new to this forums. I was led here by the people from another forums (LinusTechTips) since I was asking for help about rooting and modding my Samsung Galaxy S4.
Now, I really don't know anything about rooting or modding, but I just realized that my phone is starting to go slow, and there are some bloatwares I do not really use. I heard that if I root and mod my phone, all the bloatware can be erased and I will be able to have more space in my phone.
Can someone please link me or teach me how to root and mod my Samsung Galaxy S4? I've been reading around, but I am scared that the thread I am following is either out of date, or would not turn out well, so if you do have the time, please do help me!
Thanks!
Yours,
Veridisduo
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Easiest way to root your phone is with Chainfire Autoroot.
Deleting system bloatware won't really free up space. The System partition is a set size, so while deleting some apps will free up space in that partition, it won't give you extra space for, say, games or photos or music or other non-system stuff. Any extra space will be minimal anyway. It's also dangerous to do if you don't know what you're doing. Read, read, and read.
If you install custom recovery, such as TWRP (easy to do on this phone after rooting), you can however flash custom ROMs. This includes ROMs like CyanogenMod that are based on stock Android, and also customized Samsung TouchWiz ROMs that have been modified and typically de-bloated like you wish to do with your phone. Omega and Hyperdrive are probably the most popular modified TouchWiz ROMs for the S4. Custom recovery is an essential life-saver for learning about root and ROMs, because it allows you to make an exact backup, so when you screw something up (and you will, we all do, it's all part of the learning process) all you have to do is restore the backup.
There's plenty of youtube videos that'll walk you through the processes, but the best thing to do is read, read, and read. Educate yourself not just so you know what to do, but why you're doing it.
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Hey veris, i have a s4 GT-i9505 and i recently rooted it. First... did you get it by carrier? Just youtube this ( GT-i9505 (LTE, ATNT etc.) Root (Android version) sorry for bad english.
Yours, Jan
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Hi! How would I know what carrier I got it from?
I am from the Philippines and so, I didn't get it from ATNT or whatever carrier you mean. Sorry if I don't get it!
Planterz said:
Easiest way to root your phone is with Chainfire Autoroot.
Deleting system bloatware won't really free up space. The System partition is a set size, so while deleting some apps will free up space in that partition, it won't give you extra space for, say, games or photos or music or other non-system stuff. Any extra space will be minimal anyway. It's also dangerous to do if you don't know what you're doing. Read, read, and read.
If you install custom recovery, such as TWRP (easy to do on this phone after rooting), you can however flash custom ROMs. This includes ROMs like CyanogenMod that are based on stock Android, and also customized Samsung TouchWiz ROMs that have been modified and typically de-bloated like you wish to do with your phone. Omega and Hyperdrive are probably the most popular modified TouchWiz ROMs for the S4. Custom recovery is an essential life-saver for learning about root and ROMs, because it allows you to make an exact backup, so when you screw something up (and you will, we all do, it's all part of the learning process) all you have to do is restore the backup.
There's plenty of youtube videos that'll walk you through the processes, but the best thing to do is read, read, and read. Educate yourself not just so you know what to do, but why you're doing it.
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Hello!
First of all, I would like to thank you for your lengthy reply about my post. I really appreciate it a lot.
If I use the Chainfire Autoroot, it would do no harm with my files, am I right? (Well, I will of course back it up, but just to make sure!)
Next, what is custom recovery? Should I install this first before doing any mods?
I have heard about CyanogenMod (was thinking of modding my phone to it). What are TouchWiz ROMS though? Oh and other than CyanogenMod, are there any other mods that are nice to try out there? Would be nice to try something nice.
Sorry I ask too much question!
Veridisduo said:
Hello!
First of all, I would like to thank you for your lengthy reply about my post. I really appreciate it a lot.
If I use the Chainfire Autoroot, it would do no harm with my files, am I right? (Well, I will of course back it up, but just to make sure!)
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It's my understanding that as long as you're not using encryption, your data won't be wiped. But definitely back your stuff up first.
Next, what is custom recovery? Should I install this first before doing any mods?
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Recovery is sorta like the BIOS menu on a computer. The stock recovery on a Samsung gives you the options reboot, clear your data or cache, or do a factory reset. Custom recoveries allow you to flash things like ROMs, kernels, modem firmwares, as well as do full back-up and restores. The wiping options differentiate between storage and the ROM, so when flashing ROMs, you can choose not to wipe your data (music, pictures, etc). The most popular and easy to use custom recovery is Team Win Recovery Project (TWRP). There's an app you can download from the Play Store that will install it for you (and update) once you're rooted. A custom recovery is an indispensable tool for modding your phone, and fixing it when you screw something up. Read up on TWRP and its capabilities before doing anything drastic with it.
I have heard about CyanogenMod (was thinking of modding my phone to it). What are TouchWiz ROMS though? Oh and other than CyanogenMod, are there any other mods that are nice to try out there? Would be nice to try something nice.
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CyanogenMod is by far the most popular custom ROM. It's very close to stock (ie: Nexus) Android, with some very useful features added without bogging the phone down with tones of useless crap. Many other custom ROMs borrow from CM, many built upon it and borrow from other custom ROMs. Personally, I think there's better ROMs out there than CyanogenMod, but that's a personal preference, and CM is a good place to start for anybody venturing into custom ROMs.
TouchWiz is what Samsung calls their UI. It'll be the stock ROM on the device. As I mentioned, Omega and Hyperdrive are examples of customized TouchWiz ROMs. They're tweaked for performance, some useless/unwanted features removed (like KNOX), often they port over features from newer or more powerful Samsung devices; it's possible to get features from the Note series and the S5 and S6 on your older S4 this way. They can also add other UI tweaks like expanded reboot menus, audio mods, visual tweaks, etc. The main advantage for using a customized TouchWiz ROM is that it'll be familiar, yet greatly improved.
Apart from that, custom kernels are fun to play with too. I use Koontz kernel on my S4. The kernel, simplistically put, is a bit of software that tells the operating system (ROM) how to use the hardware. This includes everything from the screen and buttons and speakers to the CPU, GPU, and RAM. A custom kernel can give you options like overclocking, undervolting (to save battery), adding touch-wake options, screen calibration, etc. Koontz is a very adjustable kernel. Messing with kernel options can be very risky though, so do your research before making any changes (and do a back-up!)
Sorry I ask too much question!
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No problem! We're all here to learn and help others learn.
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It's my understanding that as long as you're not using encryption, your data won't be wiped. But definitely back your stuff up first.
Recovery is sorta like the BIOS menu on a computer. The stock recovery on a Samsung gives you the options reboot, clear your data or cache, or do a factory reset. Custom recoveries allow you to flash things like ROMs, kernels, modem firmwares, as well as do full back-up and restores. The wiping options differentiate between storage and the ROM, so when flashing ROMs, you can choose not to wipe your data (music, pictures, etc). The most popular and easy to use custom recovery is Team Win Recovery Project (TWRP). There's an app you can download from the Play Store that will install it for you (and update) once you're rooted. A custom recovery is an indispensable tool for modding your phone, and fixing it when you screw something up. Read up on TWRP and its capabilities before doing anything drastic with it.
CyanogenMod is by far the most popular custom ROM. It's very close to stock (ie: Nexus) Android, with some very useful features added without bogging the phone down with tones of useless crap. Many other custom ROMs borrow from CM, many built upon it and borrow from other custom ROMs. Personally, I think there's better ROMs out there than CyanogenMod, but that's a personal preference, and CM is a good place to start for anybody venturing into custom ROMs.
TouchWiz is what Samsung calls their UI. It'll be the stock ROM on the device. As I mentioned, Omega and Hyperdrive are examples of customized TouchWiz ROMs. They're tweaked for performance, some useless/unwanted features removed (like KNOX), often they port over features from newer or more powerful Samsung devices; it's possible to get features from the Note series and the S5 and S6 on your older S4 this way. They can also add other UI tweaks like expanded reboot menus, audio mods, visual tweaks, etc. The main advantage for using a customized TouchWiz ROM is that it'll be familiar, yet greatly improved.
Apart from that, custom kernels are fun to play with too. I use Koontz kernel on my S4. The kernel, simplistically put, is a bit of software that tells the operating system (ROM) how to use the hardware. This includes everything from the screen and buttons and speakers to the CPU, GPU, and RAM. A custom kernel can give you options like overclocking, undervolting (to save battery), adding touch-wake options, screen calibration, etc. Koontz is a very adjustable kernel. Messing with kernel options can be very risky though, so do your research before making any changes (and do a back-up!)
No problem! We're all here to learn and help others learn.
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Awesome! Thanks a lot again!
It seems you have lots of knowledge on the S4, and since you have the same phone as I do, would it be okay if I just message you up instead of posting all my questions here?
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Awesome! Thanks a lot again!
It seems you have lots of knowledge on the S4, and since you have the same phone as I do, would it be okay if I just message you up instead of posting all my questions here?
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Honestly, I'm not particularly knowledgeable about the S4; what I know is fairly basic and I'm relatively inexperienced with modifying this specific device. I got mine for $70, and after rooting and flashing TWRP, I tried a couple ROMs, found a custom kernel, and basically haven't really messed around with anything else for months. My S4 is not my primary device, that'd be my OnePlus One. Mainly I use the S4 as a mobile hotspot and to USB tether to my computer for home internet, since the battery is removable and I can use it for that purpose without ruining my OnePlus One (running a constant hotspot destroys batteries) .
Feel free to PM me, but it might be more prudent just to keep it public so anyone searching for the same answers can find them here, and if I can't answer them, someone else can. Right now though, it's bed time, then I'm off to work so don't think that I'm ignoring you if I don't answer in the next 20 hours or so.
And by debloated I mean Google too. I prefer zero crap on the phone but baked in"features"aren't bloat hahhaahaha. I've gotta run microg that's what I bought it for lol. Prefer toot so I can do what I want.
Well since no one knows, has tried all three, or is afraid to offend sunshine, I'll chime in myself.
The Omnirom build is very good and let's me do everything I need but not everything I want. I've read that it's better than using a GSI (generic system image - I think). Omni has been very stable to be as old as it is. I was able to remove the gapps and install microg.
Microg won't install in twrp, and won't work in magisk unless you make 100% sure Google play services are gone.
An easy way to check if things are on the right track with microg is to look in settings under system, if it shows up at the near the bottom it's going to work.
I was unable to get microg working with stock but I think I could now.
With big red ( Verizon) wifi calling is available on stock but not in omni. This is expected as I've never had to work on anything other than a stock rom in the past. So if you're at the edge of signal coverage or like I am at the edge and about the same distance between 2 towers in two states with different service in both lol, you might want to keep stock if you need that feature. If not I'd say Omni all the way.
Perhaps I'll add to this as time goes on.
If you are just starting out tahr note that fastbootd isn't the bootloader, and use the latest adb and fastboot from Google, even on Linux I downloaded the most recent to be sure but that's up to you.
The Lenovo Recover works great but fastbootd works well for fixing small blunders too.
Fastbootd says Fastboot in huge letters at the top you can't miss it. Hahaha
One thing I find peculiar is that I was able to use the Fastboot command in the bootloader mode to install twrp. This gave me a false sense of hope.
And I falsely assumed I was in Fastbootd. Fastboot has been around for years I just never used it. I think it was around in the Droidx days but I could be mistaken.
Good luck!
We are very fortunate to have vache and other devs working on these devices. As well as users who can test and stuff.
Another user asked this previously without any response ... Could you post a degoogled Omni ROM without gapps? Or give any advice how to remove it ? You were the one to put it all together so surely for you it must be easy removing it? As for me, I've been stuck.
Sorry i never saw this until now but I'm not a developer just a microg and self-hosted nextcloud user.
hi everyone, I am new to this forum.
i've been interested in rooting / mods for my old Samsung s9 to give it a new life.
I did so by rooting it using the TWRP app in combination with the Magisk V23.0
now what happened was that i was downloading some random apps yesterday and for some reason the phone went on bootloop...
i accidentally deleted the system without making a backup lol... a little stupid of me...
now it keeps telling me that i've no OS on my phone. i was thinking that i could easily find the ''un-edited'' or simple version of my original OS. but i've looked through many sites without succes.. either looks 2 good to be true or just fake...
is there anyone who can advise me on what to do? i just want my phone to work with any OS right now... but which one is the cleanest or best to use? i do prefer a newer os like 10
thanks in advance!
If you still have access to recovery mode, your best choice would probably be installing LineageOS. It's the most lightweight ROM and many ROMs are based on Lineage. From what i can see, your phone is no longer officially supported.
I found this one based on Lineage 18.1 (Android 11). Before installing, take a look at the bugs, working, and installing sections.
And don't forget to install the Google Apps after installing the system and before rebooting.
that looks crispy. i appreciate your quick & good advise. can you tell me wether i can still run Magisk on it?
Yes, you can still flash Magisk or any type of root with both the OS and the GApps.
what i'm consider about is, wether a region code CRC matters?
First of all. I have a Poco X3 Pro with 8GB RAM and 256GB Storage. MIUI is v12.5.2.0 (RJUEUXM). Model says M2102J20SG. I Have bought my phone 8 months ago and yesterday I decided to unlock it, mistakenly thinking that would let me disable the Xiaomi apps I do not like.
TL; DR:
1) Can I root my phone with stock rom?
2) Can I disable Xiaomi apps on stock rom if I root it?
3) Any suggestions for me with priority on stability over performance?
I have not been involved in rooting a phone in many years. The last android phone I had and rooted was a ZTE Blade and I mean the first Blade, which was like over a decade ago. After that I did a mistake to go on iPhone and then on an LG G6, that never made me feel like I needed to root it honestly.
The main reason I want to root my phone is to debloat it safely, removing/freezing/disabling quite a lot of Xiaomi's extra software, that I just do not want on my phone. MIUI seems quite enjoyable to me, although I have to admit, due to how I am worried that updating it will make my phone more sluggy and will affect battery life, I have yet to ever update it, still being on version 12.5.2.0.
I honestly would not mind to use a custom rom, but my preference is always stability over performance, except if that would offer me extra battery life and the current MIUI's battery life is beyond excellent in my experience, but maybe because LG G6's battery life was never that good since the day I bought it. I am definitely open to suggestions, about the course of action you people think I should take.
You can use adb commands to disable apps, but speaking from experience, you can only disable so much before things start to break, and some of the most annoying things (to me) cannot be disabled without breaking something. Also, when you update the system, all disabled things will most likely re-enable and you have to do the whole process all over again.
If you like MIUI, uninstall apps that can be uninstalled normally and use it as it is, or (and I highly recommend it) install custom ROM. If you want stability, ArrowOS or Crdroid is what you should take a look at. ArrowOS comes with gapps, while Crdroid offers tons of customization and comes as Vanilla (you can flash gapps seperately, if you want).
You sure can root your phone with stock Miui. However, you need to unlock the bootloader, first. It implies loosing all your current data. After that is done, I see no point in running stock miui, I'd go for xiaomi.eu's stable or any of the AOSP roms currently available.
I'm currently running latest crDRoid, which I'm quite enjoying. It's based of LineageOS with added tweaks and is shipped without gapps - you must installed after flashing the ROM.
Make sure you understand the process:
1. Unlock bootloader - you must wait for the 7 days to do so.
2. Flash a recovery. I suggest looking for a beta of a recovery that supports Android 12 decryption, try Nebrassy's TWRP
3. Flash your preferred ROM
4. Root it with Magisk+useful modules: safetynetfix, gms doze, etc.
Enjoy.
- Regards,
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You can use adb commands to disable apps, but speaking from experience, you can only disable so much before things start to break, and some of the most annoying things (to me) cannot be disabled without breaking something. Also, when you update the system, all disabled things will most likely re-enable and you have to do the whole process all over again.
If you like MIUI, uninstall apps that can be uninstalled normally and use it as it is, or (and I highly recommend it) install custom ROM. If you want stability, ArrowOS or Crdroid is what you should take a look at. ArrowOS comes with gapps, while Crdroid offers tons of customization and comes as Vanilla (you can flash gapps seperately, if you want).
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No, adb commands is something I definitely do not want to do. I want the system to allow me to actually disable something, without any sort of "brute forcing", mostly cause like you mentioned, I am worried of breaking things. I do not per se dislike google apps, but honestly if I can have as less as possible, it would be better for me. I will look into both the custom roms you mentioned, thank you =)
aurocha said:
You sure can root your phone with stock Miui. However, you need to unlock the bootloader, first. It implies loosing all your current data. After that is done, I see no point in running stock miui, I'd go for xiaomi.eu's stable or any of the AOSP roms currently available.
I'm currently running latest crDRoid, which I'm quite enjoying. It's based of LineageOS with added tweaks and is shipped without gapps - you must installed after flashing the ROM.
Make sure you understand the process:
1. Unlock bootloader - you must wait for the 7 days to do so.
2. Flash a recovery. I suggest looking for a beta of a recovery that supports Android 12 decryption, try Nebrassy's TWRP
3. Flash your preferred ROM
4. Root it with Magisk+useful modules: safetynetfix, gms doze, etc.
Enjoy.
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I unlocked the bootloader just yesterday, so I am done with the first part. I will definitely be checking crDroid, since it seems I can't get rid of MIUI what annoys me the most, which is it's bloatware. I guess since you guys mention to try a custom rom, I should give it a try at least, since i went ahead and unlocked the bootloader anyway. Thank you for the suggestion!
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Also, when you update the system, all disabled things will most likely re-enable and you have to do the whole process all over again.
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If you uninstall them via ADB on the active user profile they will stay uninstalled even after an update. I did so with 12.5.5 and upgraded to 13.0.1 a while back and they stayed uninstalled.
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No, adb commands is something I definitely do not want to do. I want the system to allow me to actually disable something, without any sort of "brute forcing", mostly cause like you mentioned, I am worried of breaking things. I do not per se dislike google apps, but honestly if I can have as less as possible, it would be better for me. I will look into both the custom roms you mentioned, thank you =)
I unlocked the bootloader just yesterday, so I am done with the first part. I will definitely be checking crDroid, since it seems I can't get rid of MIUI what annoys me the most, which is it's bloatware. I guess since you guys mention to try a custom rom, I should give it a try at least, since i went ahead and unlocked the bootloader anyway. Thank you for the suggestion!
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You could also try XiaomiEU rom, which is basically what you want: debloated MIUI. But to have true control over the apps and features you want, rom like Crdroid is the way to go.
Oh I have seen Xiaomi EU mentioned a lot, but I kept thinking it was just the European stock roms. I just looked it up thanks to you and it indeed looks exactly like what I was asking for. I wanted to stay on MIUI cause I really worry that if it is not vanilla, it might cause problems and most importantly battery life ones.
I probably will be trying to go for crDroid, but for now I am worried I might make a mistake. I would hate it if I ended up bricking my phone, since I love Poco X3 Pro.
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Oh I have seen Xiaomi EU mentioned a lot, but I kept thinking it was just the European stock roms. I just looked it up thanks to you and it indeed looks exactly like what I was asking for. I wanted to stay on MIUI cause I really worry that if it is not vanilla, it might cause problems and most importantly battery life ones.
I probably will be trying to go for crDroid, but for now I am worried I might make a mistake. I would hate it if I ended up bricking my phone, since I love Poco X3 Pro.
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Don't worry, you won't brick your phone if you just follow instructions, even then, you would have to do some crazy **** to hard brick your phone, most likely you will just end up with bootloop, which is always fixable by just reflashing the rom.
Read carefully and everything will be fine. I am on ArrowOS since I got the phone, updating regularly, rooting, using magisk modules, zero problems so far. Most of the time, battery life is better since useless bloat won't drain it so much.
Purely for battery life reasons I would personally never suggest switching to a custom rom from MIUI, because with a few ADB commands you can get rid of most of the "useless" bloat. However, if you are concerned about your privacy and don't want to feed Xiaomi with your data, then Lineage would be a good choice as an alternative OS, since at least the official versions are heavily regulated.
The battery life of a debloated MIUI is fantastic, at least in my case.
Ok, this will probably be a bit of a dumb and final question before I jump into the whole custom rome in the next days when I have time. I have seen a lot of times people mentioning TWRP or in general recovery that should be android 12 compatible, rather than the normal v11 provided in the twrp site. crDroid even seems to offer it's own recovery for it's latest android 12.1 version. I am still on Android 11 (MIUI 12.5.2.0). Does that mean I need to first update my phone to the latest MIUI to upgrade my software to android 12, or the recovery is backwards compatible?
I would definitely update to latest stock rom, then flash recovery and install ROM.
Hi!! I'm on the same situation here, coming from a Poco 1 (which is being really hard to let go) to a Poco x3 Pro so this thread is being really useful to me cause I'm basically on the same dilemma, stock vs custom?
I always used custom but when I bought my Poco 1 there was an automated script that unbloated the phone so I did that and stayed with the stock with no issues at all in this 3 years of use.
Now, for the poco x3, the only way of doing the same is by going app by app and removing it through ADB which, as you mentioned, is not that good if you are not sure what to remove so that made me think of going to a custom rom. I mean, I just installed it and all that xiaomi junk is removed.
What I didn't know is that the EU version was debloated so that could be a good option for me but, here's my questionk besides de bloated apps, which is the diference between EU and Global roms? Are they target for the same version of the phone or I could have like NFC disable or radio issues? Cause I though there were different version of the stock roms cause the hardware was diferent between devices.
Popletenec said:
I would definitely update to latest stock rom, then flash recovery and install ROM.
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Ok, first I am going to let the updater do it's job finally and then the rest. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
zorak20 said:
What I didn't know is that the EU version was debloated so that could be a good option for me but, here's my questionk besides de bloated apps, which is the diference between EU and Global roms? Are they target for the same version of the phone or I could have like NFC disable or radio issues? Cause I though there were different version of the stock roms cause the hardware was diferent between devices.
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Just to point out, Xiaomi EU is in a way a custom rom. The Xiaomi.EU community taken the Chinese rom, that has less bloat and more features, translating it and sharing it to people. Just because it it called debloated, that does not mean it does not come with the same Xiaomi Apps. It is still MIUI and that means some Xiaomi apps will still be impossible to disable and also apps like the Xiaomi Security that will softbrick your phone if disabled, still is needed and will cause the same thing in the Xiaomi.EU rom.
It is the main reason I am thinking of trying crDroid, or else like you said, I would not mind just a debloated stock rom, since afar from all the needed Xiaomi apps, MIUI seems quite enjoyable to me. If you check their forums though, you will see even the Xiaomi.EU has it's own problems.
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Ok, first I am going to let the updater do it's job finally and then the rest. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Just to point out, Xiaomi EU is in a way a custom rom. The Xiaomi.EU community taken the Chinese rom, that has less bloat and more features, translating it and sharing it to people. Just because it it called debloated, that does not mean it does not come with the same Xiaomi Apps. It is still MIUI and that means some Xiaomi apps will still be impossible to disable and also apps like the Xiaomi Security that will softbrick your phone if disabled, still is needed and will cause the same thing in the Xiaomi.EU rom.
It is the main reason I am thinking of trying crDroid, or else like you said, I would not mind just a debloated stock rom, since afar from all the needed Xiaomi apps, MIUI seems quite enjoyable to me. If you check their forums though, you will see even the Xiaomi.EU has it's own problems.
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Ohhhh I see! I think I'll try crDroid too and Arrow, as long as it's debloated, the IR works as long with the radio and the nfc, I'm happy.