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Download and install apk privacy over aurora

Hi,
please please please have patient with with as i’m still on iphone waiting to sell it and buy android (after @5 years on apple ecosystem)
Before that, last android phone, i had note 3, rooted ...
My question is about having a degoogled phone with lineageos without any google service instaled (not even aurora that, from what i understood, can be installed via fdroid and used to install play apps) and use no more google/facebook services (e.g whatsapp).
The question: can i download an apk file from google store via a laptop (e.g: revolut, or other banks apps) upload them to the phone and install them?
If this will work, will be privacy compromised?
Is this safer than installing via aurora?
Another question: lets say ill use k9 mail for my gmail account. Will this help google target my phone in any way knowing at least my phone ip ?
Regards,

With Aurora ( a fork of Yalp ) app you download/update apps directly from the Google Play Store without a Google account.
Aurora is open-source hence you must not fear your Android gets compromised by it.
Downloading an app from 3rd-party websites - means not from Google Play Store - and installing it always carries the risk that malicious software is installed.
Note: Apps may not work if you uninstall Google Play Services.

jwoegerbauer said:
With Aurora ( a fork of Yalp ) app you download/update apps directly from the Google Play Store without a Google account.
Aurora is open-source hence you must not fear your Android gets compromised by it.
Downloading an app from 3rd-party websites - means not from Google Play Store - and installing it always carries the risk that malicious software is installed.
Note: Apps may not work if you uninstall Google Play Services.
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Thank your for your answer.
If it will not work, then I'll skip the app
Thank you again

Install Google apps in Lineageos

Hello,
How can i install basics Apps in Lineageos.
So Google Play Store can works
Then i just installed Google Play Store / then the app crash right after start.
with service does i have to install? (APK files)
Thank for your time.

The Open GApps Project
OpenGApps.org offers information and pre-built packages of The Open GApps Project. The Open GApps Project is an open-source effort to script the automatic generation of up-to-date Google Apps packages. All Android versions and platforms supported.
opengapps.org
Download the file according to your android version and architecture and flash it.

GApps & Google Play Store app are completely different softwares. Google Play Store app doesn't depend on GApps.

You can use different Gapps build, if I could recommend some, I would recommend Bitgapps or Nikgapps, the smallest packages. You only need to try to find the one that makes you feel better.

But how can i install Gogole play store on my Lineageos? i'm useing Lineageos 18 not official
The app keep crashing do i need some other apps for get "Gogole Play Store" to work?

007fred62 said:
But how can i install Gogole play store on my Lineageos? i'm useing Lineageos 18 not official
The app keep crashing do i need some other apps for get "Gogole Play Store" to work?
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To succesfully run Google Play Store the Core GMS Packages must got installed before. The GMS stands for “Google Mobile Services”. Those are at least
Google Account Manager APK
Google Services Framework APK
Google Play Services APK

jwoegerbauer said:
To succesfully run Google Play Store the Core GMS Packages must got installed before. The GMS stands for “Google Mobile Services”. Those are at least
Google Account Manager APK
Google Services Framework APK
Google Play Services APK
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Now i got a new problem / Play Protect certified
How to fix "Device is not Play Protect certified" error - Technobaboy
If you are having the "Device is not Play Protect certified" errors, here is one way to fix the problem. Hopefully, this works for you.
www.technobaboy.com
I have insert GSF code, but they say wait a while but nothing happen
How can that be fixed?

How to disable Google Play Protect in detail is described here:
How to disable "Google Play Protect"?
Google has added a security system for apps that are not downloaded from the Google Play called "Play Protect". It is possible that the Mobile Tracker Free application is detected as potentially da...
support.mobile-tracker-free.com

jwoegerbauer said:
How to disable Google Play Protect in detail is described here:
How to disable "Google Play Protect"?
Google has added a security system for apps that are not downloaded from the Google Play called "Play Protect". It is possible that the Mobile Tracker Free application is detected as potentially da...
support.mobile-tracker-free.com
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I have try that, it says (This devices isn't Play Protect certified)
still the same issuse

007fred62 said:
I have try that, it says (This devices isn't Play Protect certified)
still the same issuse
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Getting the Google Play Protect status message "This device isn't Play Protect certified" simply informs you that
Your phone may not get Android system updates or app updates.
Google apps on your phone that aren't Play Protect certified aren't licensed and may not be real Google apps.
Apps and features on your phone that aren't Play Protect certified may not work correctly.
Data on your phone that aren't Play Protect certified may not back up securely.
That's all.

Installation of google play services for a specific user profile

I wonder if I can create two (or more) user profiles on my android device, one of which I will use only open source stuff and everything else on the other.
As far as I know, it is possible to create several user profiles in Android that are isolated from each other.
I would probably install LineageOS for this as it doesn't have google play services pre-installed on it and it seems very "clean" in terms of these things (I have never used this system).
There is something like OpenGApps that allows you to install google play services but as far as I know it requires installation from twrp. So I suspect google play services will then be installed for all user profiles on the device.
So is there any possibility to install google services for one user only?
I also know that there is such a thing as microg (and Aurora stora). When I heard that there was such a thing as "LineageOS for microG" I thought it would be a very good option (on one android profile I just wouldn't use microg). But later I also found out that it is supposedly against the google policy and that they can ban my account for it, which I would prefer to avoid.
So I wanted to ask if the only option to do this is to install LineageOS, check what applications are installed by default, install OpenGApps to it and then disable all google related applications on one of the user profiles?
Does such disabling the application also ensure that Google will not be able to "work" on my device in any way? Does OpenGApps install any system level google stuff that will run in the background anyway?
And are OpenGApps not something that I should not install when I don't want to get a google ban?

You are confusing (Open)GApps - Google themselves call them Google Mobile Services (GMS) - and Google Play Services what are two completely different things.
Google Play Services is one of the most important parts of Android. It helps connect everything together and hold it all there. The Google Play Services are the interface to the Google Mobile Services as well as to the hardware functions of the Android device. Many of your apps use Google Play Services everyday.
GMS is a bunch of apps what includes
Google Play Store,
Google Now,
Google Play Music,
Google Maps,
Google+,
Gmail,
Google Photos,
Youtube
and the Android Device Manager.
Knowing the difference it should be clear that GMS can get installed on a per-user basis whereas Google Play Services not.

jwoegerbauer said:
You are confusing (Open)GApps - Google themselves call them Google Mobile Services (GMS) - and Google Play Services what are two completely different things.
Google Play Services is one of the most important parts of Android. It helps connect everything together and hold it all there. The Google Play Services are the interface to the Google Mobile Services as well as to the hardware functions of the Android device. Many of your apps use Google Play Services everyday.
GMS is a bunch of apps what includes
Google Play Store,
Google Now,
Google Play Music,
Google Maps,
Google+,
Gmail,
Google Photos,
Youtube
and the Android Device Manager.
Knowing the difference it should be clear that GMS can get installed on a per-user basis whereas Google Play Services not.
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Thanks for the clarification, although I still don't really know what you meant. I thought that google play services is the name for all those components that are needed to run, for example, the google play store. If the google play store needs also other components (?), then when I wrote google play services, I meant all the components that are needed to run the play store.
In any case, I mean in practice whether I am able to install both the play store and the components needed for it only for one user in Android, but from what I understand it is not possible in your opinion.
The questions at the end of my post probably still remain the same. I can only clarify that I meant more general cases in these questions:
Does installing the play store (along with the necessary components) install any system-level Google stuff that will run in the background anyway even if I disable these apps?
And isn't installing the play store (along with the necessary components) by hand something that I shouldn't be doing when I want to avoid a Google ban?

Again:
Google Play Store simply is an ordinary user app as any other user app, too, nothing else. It itself installs , except some Android OS libraries, nothing. Only thing is it requires Google Play Services ( which are running in background ) to properly run. As already said: Google Play Services can only get installed once because it extends Android OS. And Android OS always is the same for all created users.
Don't understand what you mean with "Google ban".

Dani3I said:
I would probably install LineageOS for this as it doesn't have google play services pre-installed on it and it seems very "clean" in terms of these things (I have never used this system).
There is something like OpenGApps that allows you to install google play services but as far as I know it requires installation from twrp. So I suspect google play services will then be installed for all user profiles on the device.
So is there any possibility to install google services for one user only?
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You can install those apps but you have to flash it via recovery. Also, you need to do that prior to booting into the os for the first time, which I think is related to encryption.
If you already booted into your os, you need to boot into recovery and perform a factory data reset, then flash those gapps (as far as I know dirty flashing those gapps will introduce instability to those gapps. That's why you need a factory data reset).
Keep in mind that factory reseting will delete all your person data.
After you flashed it, those gapps will be available for every user
Dani3I said:
I also know that there is such a thing as microg (and Aurora stora). When I heard that there was such a thing as "LineageOS for microG" I thought it would be a very good option (on one android profile I just wouldn't use microg). But later I also found out that it is supposedly against the google policy and that they can ban my account for it, which I would prefer to avoid.
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Aurora Store provides an anonymous google account. It's data isn't linked to you which means they cannot ban your account.
Dani3I said:
So I wanted to ask if the only option to do this is to install LineageOS, check what applications are installed by default, install OpenGApps to it and then disable all google related applications on one of the user profiles?
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LOS comes without any google apps preinstalled. So first flash LOS, then OpenGApps (follow their official guide. They describe it there).
And yes, after that you have to disable every google app you don't want to use for every new user profile.
Dani3I said:
Does such disabling the application also ensure that Google will not be able to "work" on my device in any way? Does OpenGApps install any system level google stuff that will run in the background anyway?
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If you disable it for the current user, it won't run in any way, yes.
OpenGApps itself shouldn't install anything on system level. But those apps will be installed on system level since you flash them to the system (using your recovery). However, if you disable them they won't run in the background.
Dani3I said:
And are OpenGApps not something that I should not install when I don't want to get a google ban?
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I don't know.

jwoegerbauer said:
You are confusing (Open)GApps - Google themselves call them Google Mobile Services (GMS) - and Google Play Services what are two completely different things.
Google Play Services is one of the most important parts of Android. It helps connect everything together and hold it all there. The Google Play Services are the interface to the Google Mobile Services as well as to the hardware functions of the Android device. Many of your apps use Google Play Services everyday.
GMS is a bunch of apps what includes
Google Play Store,
Google Now,
Google Play Music,
Google Maps,
Google+,
Gmail,
Google Photos,
Youtube
and the Android Device Manager.
Knowing the difference it should be clear that GMS can get installed on a per-user basis whereas Google Play Services not.
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Yep that's absolutely correct

MicroG

Just got the Stag Rom up and running on my Moto Stylus. Added MicroG from F-droid and all seems to work well. When I did a scan with ClassyShark, MicroG showes 4 trackers, Google AdMob, Google Analytics, Google Firebase and Mapbox ? anyone know why ? something that is needed for MicroG to work ?

Baja24 said:
Just got the Stag Rom up and running on my Moto Stylus. Added MicroG from F-droid and all seems to work well. When I did a scan with ClassyShark, MicroG showes 4 trackers, Google AdMob, Google Analytics, Google Firebase and Mapbox ? anyone know why ? something that is needed for MicroG to work ?
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Did you consider to ask in the µG thread? I assume there're probably more knowledgable members around.
[APP] microG GmsCore - lightweight free software clone of Google Play Services
Introduction microG GmsCore is a FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software) framework to allow applications designed for Google Play Services to run on systems, where Play Services is not available. If you use your phone without GAPPS this might...
forum.xda-developers.com
Personally, I'm user of µG for many years on all my devices but not an expert. I assume µG requires those libraries to make applications to run that usually require the Google Play Services but I'm convinced that they've been "disabled" in such a way that they don't deliver Google's intended results.

Thanks, kind of what I thought.

Hi there,
I have read that native Gapps core is "spying on you", so I flashed an Arrow OS without Gapps integration on my phone, and installed afterwards MicroG.
Now some apps won't work, because it can't check the license (like paid Litchi app).
Is a custom Firmware, with Gapps core integrated behaving the same as native one in the stock Firmware according "spying on you", or are they in general more safe then Stock ones?
Thanks in advance.

MicroG is a clone of Google's proprietary core libraries and applications, means it simply provides a placeholder for many APIs Google Play Services / Google Services Framework / GMS apps are relying on.
So it's not surprising that when using MicroG some GMS apps and also some 3rd-party apps won't work as expected.

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