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Google now launcher on Honor 6 plus

Hi, I have trouble setting Google Now launcher on my Honor 6 plus. I have downloaded Google app and Google now Launcher from play store and when running Google Now I get a message about setting it under Manage Apps -> Default App Settings but when I get there there's no Google Now launcher option. I rebooted my phone, reinstalled, rebooted again and still no Google Now option.
Huawei launcher is fine but I wanted to use a voice search app and that's the only reason I want to switch to Google Now. I tried the same with Nova Launcher and it worked fine. My phone is rooted and using CWM recovery by the way, although I don't think that affects it.

[Solution] Fix 3rd party launcher bug with new gestures.

So as is commonly known, if you use the new gestures on 9.0.2 & a 3rd party launcher (such as Nova) when you lock the screen with an app open you will get automatically brought home upon unlock. I figured I'd try something random to see what it did.
This requires root & titanium Backup.
With Nova Launcher set as my default, I opened Titaniam backup & froze the stock Oneplus Launcher. I lost the home/recents gestures (interestingly enough, I still had back working on both sides).
In toying with it, I backed out of titanium Backup to my Nova home screen. Discovered I had no home or recent apps gestures & concluded that was a lost cause & opened up Titaniam backup again. I unfroze the Oneplus launcher and called it quits.
However, I started noticing that I wasn't always being taken to my home screen when I lock it with an app open. I've tested phone calls and several apps (reddit, ESPN, Chrome, messaging, etc...). When I lock the app open, I get taken back to that app when I unlock the phone again!
So in short, here are the steps you can use to replicate
1) Have a rooted device with Titaniam backup installed
2) Set your default launcher (mine is Nova)
3) Open Titaniam Backup & freeze the Oneplus Stock Launcher
4) Use your back gestures unil you get to the home screen (this probably isn't required, but I'm just including exactly how to replicate)
5) Go back into Titaniam, unfreeze the Oneplus stock launcher.
See if it worked! Let me know if this works for any of you. Also mention if you bothered with step 4,so I can update accordingly.

Really wierd since I don't have this issue at all.
I'm using latest nova and if I lock in instagram/telegram/chrome/camera or whatever app I'm in I get the same app after I unlock.
But good that you brought a fix for this that's facing this.

There is a simple solution that I posted in the thread above this one. This thread will probably be closed.
Delete the stock OP launcher then the home and recents gestures don't work. Install OnePlus Launcher from the Play Store then reboot. After rebooting uninstall the OnePlus Launcher that you just installed from the Play Store. Then reboot again and the gestures will start working like they should. I did this on OB6 and 9.0.2 Stable pie and can confirm it works for me. I use Nova Launcher as well. Then you won't have to have the stock Launcher installed at all.

ajsmsg78 said:
There is a simple solution that I posted in the thread above this one. This thread will probably be closed.
Delete the stock OP launcher then the home and recents gestures don't work. Install OnePlus Launcher from the Play Store then reboot. After rebooting uninstall the OnePlus Launcher that you just installed from the Play Store. Then reboot again and the gestures will start working like they should. I did this on OB6 and 9.0.2 Stable pie and can confirm it works for me. I use Nova Launcher as well.
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Or better: just install latest oneplus launcher released 9th November and problem is gone. (yes.. For 3rd party apps aswell)

So I seem to be facing a different problem. For whatever reason I'm not sure I have yet to figure out why. Everytime I update my launcher past 3.0.0 and reboot my phone automatically installs launcher 3.0.2. I have never had that version of the launcher on my device. I can update to 3.1.5 and as soon as I reboot I have 3.0.2

Picture one is updated launcher
Picture two is after reboot

Any possible way of using Nova launcher?

I'm really tempted to get one of these to replace my s8+, but I'm not sure if I could go without an app drawer. Could I perhaps delete the default launcher using adb? Or would that crash the whole phone?
Edit: this is what worked for me, putting it on the top so other people can find it more easily.
1. Make sure you have Nova or third party launcher installed.
2. Enable usb debugging in developer options.
3. Connect to your computer via usb
4. Type in:
adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.huawei.android.launcher
Optional if you use Gesture control:
5. Swiping gestures from the bottom of the screen won't work, if you want to use gesture controls, download fluid or edge gestures from play store (one is a freemium app and the other is a paid app). I heard Fluid is really really good and it's a sort of free, but I already have Edge Gestures because I bought it for my M5 tablet, so that's what I use instead.
6. Enable gesture app in accessibility services.
7. Type in special access in settings, and disable battery optimization for that app.
8. Go to battery option> battery usage, find gesture app, choose manually launch app and check all three options.
9. Go to recent apps, and tap the lock icon of gesture app to keep the app open in background, or the accessibility services will be revoked.
Hope it works for you.

Just use Nova and then set it as default.

does it not give you the option of using an app drawer like other Huawei phones?

It has but Huawei software is the worst and only drawback of Huawei/Honor phones. If you can ignore the EMUI crapware Huawei phones are the best. Before you could just flash a custom ROM. Now since Huawei no longer provide code, it's impossible. You can get code via third party software but as it's paid there won't be much development.

had the Mate 9 and never had any issues with the Huawei software personally. Dont understand the hate it seems to generate. If the Magic 2 is the same, although i see its been updated from EMUI 9 to MAGIC 2 software now then im very interested in this phone. Just waiting for either global versions to be available or a UK version if they decide to release it here

I tried,adb shell to disable official APP then you can use Nova but still impossible to set the default launcher. But you could still use nova Swip up gesture may be disable to just tap nova in the default setting can fix this . But swip up to show the recent can't work anymore

My Magic 2 has arrived. I installed Nova Launcher on it. At first I disabled the default Launcher but it kept coming back when I rebooted it. So I just uninstalled the default Launcher using ADB.
Another problem I ran into is that when using Nova Launcher, the swipe up gestures don't work, so I had to buy a third party gesture app. But the accessibility services keep turning itself off. I tried managing the app manually in Phone Manager but sometimes the gesture app would still get disabled. Lol.

ChildishGambino3005 said:
My Magic 2 has arrived. I installed Nova Launcher on it. At first I disabled the default Launcher but it kept coming back when I rebooted it. So I just uninstalled the default Launcher using ADB.
Another problem I ran into is that when using Nova Launcher, the swipe up gestures don't work, so I had to buy a third party gesture app. But the accessibility services keep turning itself off. I tried managing the app manually in Phone Manager but sometimes the gesture app would still get disabled. Lol.
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Welcome to Huawei World. The Magic 2 is an expensive phone. So instead of this stuff I would advise you to stomach the software and enjoy it. Accessibility service is a long running problem of EMUI 8 & 9. So at this point, if you are up for it, I advise you to unlock your Bootloader via and third party software. They are paid, keep that in mind. After that flash any project Treble GSI. However keep in Mind you are Running EMUI 9 so it may not work. Alternatively your best bet is to hope for a change and stomach it.

Mannan Qamar said:
Welcome to Huawei World. The Magic 2 is an expensive phone. So instead of this stuff I would advise you to stomach the software and enjoy it. Accessibility service is a long running problem of EMUI 8 & 9. So at this point, if you are up for it, I advise you to unlock your Bootloader via and third party software. They are paid, keep that in mind. After that flash any project Treble GSI. However keep in Mind you are Running EMUI 9 so it may not work. Alternatively your best bet is to hope for a change and stomach it.
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Thabks for the reply. It must be an Honor issue I guess. I have the same gesture navigation app installed on my M5 tablet and I had no issues with it. Although I can't remember if that was before or after I flashed OpenKirin on it. It seems to be working now that I disabled auto optimization for my gesture app. Fingers crossed.
I think I've worked it out now. As long as I have the gesture app opened in the background and have the battery optimization set to manual for the app, the accessibility services won't be disabled. Which leads me to another minor problem of not being able to use the clear app function or I'll have to turn it on again. I think I can live with that for now, at least the behavior is predictable and I know what is causing the problem.

ChildishGambino3005 said:
Thabks for the reply. It must be an Honor issue I guess. I have the same gesture navigation app installed on my M5 tablet and I had no issues with it. Although I can't remember if that was before or after I flashed OpenKirin on it. It seems to be working now that I disabled auto optimization for my gesture app. Fingers crossed.
I think I've worked it out now. As long as I have the gesture app opened in the background and have the battery optimization set to manual for the app, the accessibility services won't be disabled. Which leads me to another minor problem of not being able to use the clear app function or I'll have to turn it on again. I think I can live with that for now, at least the behavior is predictable and I know what is causing the problem.
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Good Luck Man. At this point buying from Huawei/Honor is a risky investment. I hope yours is worth it. With the bootloader fiasco development for these phones is non-existent. There is some hope it may change given the backlash but, well. Good Luck. From what I have heard the Magic 2 is a good phone. Enjoy it. As for me, I am gonna try to avoid these phone. But they are the only budget phones with Good Specs so I am stuck. And yeah. The issues always go away after flashing custom ROMs.

Mannan Qamar said:
Good Luck Man. At this point buying from Huawei/Honor is a risky investment. I hope yours is worth it. With the bootloader fiasco development for these phones is non-existent. There is some hope it may change given the backlash but, well. Good Luck. From what I have heard the Magic 2 is a good phone. Enjoy it. As for me, I am gonna try to avoid these phone. But they are the only budget phones with Good Specs so I am stuck. And yeah. The issues always go away after flashing custom ROMs.
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Yeah man. Im switching from a US unlocked s8+, that has no unlocked bootloader or any dev as well. I do miss my OnePlus though, but it's such a shame that the 6T has no LED notification nor an AOD. Otherwise I would've bought it even though the SD845 is half a generation behind the Kirin 980.

ChildishGambino3005 said:
Yeah man. Im switching from a US unlocked s8+, that has no unlocked bootloader or any dev as well. I do miss my OnePlus though, but it's such a shame that the 6T has no LED notification nor an AOD. Otherwise I would've bought it even though the SD845 is half a generation behind the Kirin 980.
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Notification LED Is a loss. But you can enable AOD via Root. Or you know, just flash a custom ROM.

ChildishGambino3005 said:
My Magic 2 has arrived. I installed Nova Launcher on it. At first I disabled the default Launcher but it kept coming back when I rebooted it. So I just uninstalled the default Launcher using ADB.
Another problem I ran into is that when using Nova Launcher, the swipe up gestures don't work, so I had to buy a third party gesture app. But the accessibility services keep turning itself off. I tried managing the app manually in Phone Manager but sometimes the gesture app would still get disabled. Lol.
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Hello! I'm thinking about buying this phone. But as you have it, there are some things I need to know:
1) Does it have Google play installed? Or do you have to install it yourself? If so, was it difficult or you just enter the honor store, look for Google, and download it?
2) Too many Chinese phones have problems with third party apps notifications (especially WhatsApp). Like you don't receive the notification unless you open the app. Does it happen with the honor Magic 2 Too?
3) The always on display in most Chinese phones is useless cause only shows notifications from messages, phone calls or some Chinese apps like WeChat or QQ (no Gmail, Facebook, WhatsApp).
4) Although the phone has Spanish language, the virtual assistant only works with Chinese voice.
Thanks

Lucky_stipe said:
Hello! I'm thinking about buying this phone. But as you have it, there are some things I need to know:
1) Does it have Google play installed? Or do you have to install it yourself? If so, was it difficult or you just enter the honor store, look for Google, and download it?
2) Too many Chinese phones have problems with third party apps notifications (especially WhatsApp). Like you don't receive the notification unless you open the app. Does it happen with the honor Magic 2 Too?
3) The always on display in most Chinese phones is useless cause only shows notifications from messages, phone calls or some Chinese apps like WeChat or QQ (no Gmail, Facebook, WhatsApp).
4) Although the phone has Spanish language, the virtual assistant only works with Chinese voice.
Thanks
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1) It has Google framework preinstalled, and you would just need to download play store on Huawei app gallery. It's as simple as that.
2) I get WhatsApp messages instantly with the screen off.
3) The AOD is very basic. So it only has the time, battery level. The lockscreen shows you the song you're playing (on Google play music, but not Spotify strangely) and some shortcuts.
4) The phone has Spanish but the assistant is in Chinese only. I'm not sure if they've updated it are planning to update it. I uninstalled it via ADB so can't test that out for you.

I install nova launcher , and use adb command remove default launcher:
adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.huawei.android.launcher
It's work! I can use nova launcher as my default launcher...
But there is a BIG problem:
The home key (or home gesture) don't work! It's mean I can go home at anywhere...
ps: Go "Huawei Store" install & run huawei launcher again can let stock launcher back without factory reset.

ChildishGambino3005 said:
1) It has Google framework preinstalled, and you would just need to download play store on Huawei app gallery. It's as simple as that.
2) I get WhatsApp messages instantly with the screen off.
3) The AOD is very basic. So it only has the time, battery level. The lockscreen shows you the song you're playing (on Google play music, but not Spotify strangely) and some shortcuts.
4) The phone has Spanish but the assistant is in Chinese only. I'm not sure if they've updated it are planning to update it. I uninstalled it via ADB so can't test that out for you.
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Thanks man. You've been most helpful

leedashone said:
I install nova launcher , and use adb command remove default launcher:
adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.huawei.android.launcher
It's work! I can use nova launcher as my default launcher...
But there is a BIG problem:
The home key (or home gesture) don't work! It's mean I can go home at anywhere...
ps: Go "Huawei Store" install & run huawei launcher again can let stock launcher back without factory reset.
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Try fluid gesture app + Nova
Sent from my HUAWEI NXT-DL00 using Tapatalk

I use edge gestures from the play store, it cost like $2 but I had it already because I bought it to use with my tablet.
You have to go to the recent apps page and lock it in, as well as ignore the battery optimization for it to keep working, otherwise emui will keep disabling its accessibility services access.

leedashone said:
I install nova launcher , and use adb command remove default launcher:
adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.huawei.android.launcher
It's work! I can use nova launcher as my default launcher...
But there is a BIG problem:
The home key (or home gesture) don't work! It's mean I can go home at anywhere...
ps: Go "Huawei Store" install & run huawei launcher again can let stock launcher back without factory reset.
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Because your are only disabling the apk, NOT uninstalling (which you can't without root). The gestures are only working with the build in launcher.

ChildishGambino3005 said:
1) It has Google framework preinstalled, and you would just need to download play store on Huawei app gallery. It's as simple as that.
2) I get WhatsApp messages instantly with the screen off.
3) The AOD is very basic. So it only has the time, battery level. The lockscreen shows you the song you're playing (on Google play music, but not Spotify strangely) and some shortcuts.
4) The phone has Spanish but the assistant is in Chinese only. I'm not sure if they've updated it are planning to update it. I uninstalled it via ADB so can't test that out for you.
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Did you manage to enable Google Assistant?
For me the app itself works but I can't enable "Access with Voice Match" to say "OK Google" from any screen, not sure why.

[Root] Get vertical recent apps view (must use custom launcher)

If you're like me and you think that this horizontal recent apps view is garbage, here's an idea that you may like. I downloaded an app called 'Chef's Freezer' (requires root) and freezed OnePlus launcher.
Since I'm using Nova and Fluid n.g., everything works perfect for me. I'm not sure if OnePlus gestures are tightened up together with OnePlus launcher. Haven't tested that.
Do you know any other way of getting it?

I found last night that if you use the NoLimits ROM; remove the OnePlus Launcher and pick Lawnchair launcher listed in the profile editor (i think there is nova, lawnchair, action and pixel, but dont know if they all work), you will get the vertical recents view.

Or, instead of freezing, use Magisk and QuickSwitch, and you can have any recents provider ?

I've simply installed the attached APK and I get vertical recents. It's just a version of OP launcher from Oreo.

Hunter3U said:
I found last night that if you use the NoLimits ROM; remove the OnePlus Launcher and pick Lawnchair launcher listed in the profile editor (i think there is nova, lawnchair, action and pixel, but dont know if they all work), you will get the vertical recents view.
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Nova works for this. I flashed xxx and replaced oneplus launcher with nova.
I love most the changes in android 9 but the new recent apps is laaaaaame...

whitak3r said:
Nova works for this. I flashed xxx and replaced oneplus launcher with nova.
I love most the changes in android 9 but the new recent apps is laaaaaame...
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Maybe I overlooked it but I cannot find this setting in nova... I also prefer the vertical setup

skj8100 said:
Maybe I overlooked it but I cannot find this setting in nova... I also prefer the vertical setup
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Don't need any setting , just freeze or uninstall oneplus launcher. ( need root )

If you freeze oneplus launcher, do you still see the app lock icon in recent screen?
Sent from my OnePlus7Pro using XDA Labs

tbv2005 said:
If you freeze oneplus launcher, do you still see the app lock icon in recent screen?
Sent from my OnePlus7Pro using XDA Labs
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I don't see the app lock, also if you use Navigation gestures the Swipe up for home does not work for me.

BabeShaq said:
If you're like me and you think that this horizontal recent apps view is garbage, here's an idea that you may like. I downloaded an app called 'Chef's Freezer' (requires root) and freezed OnePlus launcher.
Since I'm using Nova and Fluid n.g., everything works perfect for me. I'm not sure if OnePlus gestures are tightened up together with OnePlus launcher. Haven't tested that.
Do you know any other way of getting it?
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I personally froze the launcher, and I use Xposed Edge for better gestures. I love this set-up, and it's much faster than stock.

fonix232 said:
Or, instead of freezing, use Magisk and QuickSwitch, and you can have any recents provider
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This is the real answer if you are rooted.

protechtedd said:
This is the real answer if you are rooted.
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Unless Quickswitch has changed it functionality, I believe it only gives you horizontal scrolling. This thread is specifically for how to get Vertical scrolling instead. In which case, you need to freeze or uninstall the oneplus launcher and install an older version from Oreo or use a different launcher.

If i [ disable ] Oneplus Launcher with an ADB command , when using Nova Launcher Prime in the same time as my default launcher can i get the oreo recent app view ? On my previous phone a Mate 20 pro ( emui :s ...) it worked .

Maaviss said:
If i [ disable ] Oneplus Launcher with an ADB command , when using Nova Launcher Prime in the same time as my default launcher can i get the oreo recent app view ? On my previous phone a Mate 20 pro ( emui :s ...) it worked .
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Yes that should work. Just try it and you will find out, if it doesn't, you can always just reenable the Oneplus one.

It doesn't seem to work for me. The moment I set a different default launcher, using quickswitch even, the recents gesture stops working. If I set nova as default, home and back work but no recents list.
Using gestures, not nav bar.

Yeah u right ^^ .. and u know what ? It Worked !!!
So , unrooted budies ( like me ) TO DO this thing , enter the following ADB command :
pm disable-user --user 0 net.oneplus.launcher
TO REVERT :
pm enable --user 0 net.oneplus.launcher
[ Make sure you have an alternative launcher in use before ! ( in my case : Nova Launcher Prime ) ]
I use Fluid Navigation Gesture and no problem so far .
Peace .

cant use navigation gestures with OP launcher frozen
stock gestures are so much better than fluid nav gestures.

Maaviss said:
Yeah u right ^^ .. and u know what ? It Worked !!!
So , unrooted budies ( like me ) TO DO this thing , enter the following ADB command :
pm disable-user --user 0 net.oneplus.launcher
TO REVERT :
pm enable --user 0 net.oneplus.launcher
[ Make sure you have an alternative launcher in use before ! ( in my case : Nova Launcher Prime ) ]
I use Fluid Navigation Gesture and no problem so far .
Peace .
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i receive "-bash: pm: command not found" with "pm disable-user --user 0 net.oneplus.launcher" command, am i missing something?
nevermind, i'm dumb enough to forget to do "adb shell" before
So, how do you get to recent apps in anywhere in the app? on fluid navigation, i am able to get back, but can't get the recent apps if i swipe from center below. I use Nova prime as well

fonix232 said:
Or, instead of freezing, use Magisk and QuickSwitch, and you can have any recents provider
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OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!! It's freaking amazing!!!!. I've had my 7 pro since launch, and I've had nexus and pixel phones up till I got my 6t and 7pro. I've missed vertical recents since my nexus 6.. Thank you guys so much! Simple.!
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aenews said:
I personally froze the launcher, and I use Xposed Edge for better gestures. I love this set-up, and it's much faster than stock.
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Can't get this to work. The gesture app requires xposed framework. I tried installing the magisk xposed framework module, it failed.

kickenwing13 said:
OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!! It's freaking amazing!!!!. I've had my 7 pro since launch, and I've had nexus and pixel phones up till I got my 6t and 7pro. I've missed vertical recents since my nexus 6.. Thank you guys so much! Simple.!
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Can't get this to work. The gesture app requires xposed framework. I tried installing the magisk xposed framework module, it failed.
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Yeah you need to use the newer EdXposed which works on Pie. Instructions for installation are in that thread, but you basically just need the Riru Core and EdXposed Magisk modules as well as the EdXposed Installer APK. The thread also lists all the modules that either work or have been updated to work with EdXposed. The majority of useful modules are supported by now.
You can configure the gestures however you see fit with Xposed Edge. It's insanely customizable. It's a perfect solution IMO and better than OEM gestures on any device.

2019 Kindle Fire HD 10 - Adding shortcuts to home screen

I recently got a new 2019 Kindle HD 10 and started setting it up. I have been able to get Google Play and Nova Launcher successfully installed without any issue. Everything has been working great but I am unable to do something that I was able to do with my older Kindle Fire HD: add shortcuts to the Home Screen.
Previously on a 2017? HD 10, I was able to add shortcuts from Chrome right to the desktop. I was also able to add a book's shortcut from Moon+ Reader right to the Home Screen. But now, neither of these things seem to work. I am not exactly sure what's the issue that is preventing this from happening. App permissions? Newer version of Fire OS? A setting within Nova Launcher? I Googled the issue and found someone mention this was due to the OS version being higher but I haven't found any real confirmation on this anywhere else.
Does anyone have an idea of why I can't do this - and is there any workarounds for this feature?
Thanks,
TB

Todd Banister said:
I recently got a new 2019 Kindle HD 10 and started setting it up. I have been able to get Google Play and Nova Launcher successfully installed without any issue. Everything has been working great but I am unable to do something that I was able to do with my older Kindle Fire HD: add shortcuts to the Home Screen.
Previously on a 2017? HD 10, I was able to add shortcuts from Chrome right to the desktop. I was also able to add a book's shortcut from Moon+ Reader right to the Home Screen. But now, neither of these things seem to work. I am not exactly sure what's the issue that is preventing this from happening. App permissions? Newer version of Fire OS? A setting within Nova Launcher? I Googled the issue and found someone mention this was due to the OS version being higher but I haven't found any real confirmation on this anywhere else.
Does anyone have an idea of why I can't do this - and is there any workarounds for this feature?
Thanks,
TB
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You must disable Amazon's crappy launcher
Code:
adb shell pm disable-user com.amazon.firelauncher

AmznUser444 Dev said:
You must disable Amazon's crappy launcher
Code:
adb shell pm disable-user com.amazon.firelauncher
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Yep, already did this using the Toolkit (14.2). I have Nova Launcher set as my default launcher and have even restarted to see if that cleared anything in memory. Still nothing. I have even gone back in and run the command again from the Toolkit to no avail. I keep checking permissions on the Kindle but I obviously haven't found the solution ... yet.
Take care,
TB

I had widget support allready activated with toolkit but no option to add a shortcut to Nova Launcher in Chrome and gdrive. I don't no why but suddenly the option appears in drive an chrome app.

Same problem here, configured with fire toolbox to use nova launcher, and widgets work but shortcuts don't.
So... I installed "Shortcut Maker" app, and created widgets that are shortcuts on the desktop. I even made some use chrome and some use Firefox, works great. I'm guessing there are other similar app choices but this solved my problem.
Note that when it first starts it says it can't make shortcuts, to try widgets, and that worked.
As usual ymmv, but did exactly what I needed.