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Transfer data over to my new Mango phone?

Just got my Samsung Focus S, and I'm trying to get as much data as I can from my old Samsung Focus over to the new phone. What's the best way of doing this?

image the phone to the sdcard and then change the car.... oh wait.... wp7.... nevermind
that was fun

Bottom line, you can't get there from here.
Anything that has been copied to your PC through Zune (photos, videos, music) can be copied back to your new phone. Also, anything that is already stored in the cloud will still be available. But anything that is solely on your phone (app/game settings & saves, SMS messages, documents created by apps that don't support cloud storage, etc), will be permanently lost.
Microsoft does not provide (or even allow for) any mechanism to make a transferable backup of your device.

ohgood said:
image the phone to the sdcard and then change the car.... oh wait.... wp7.... nevermind
that was fun
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yea that was productive...NOT!!! go somewhere. Anyway u can't make a backup of one device and transfer it to another but u can reinstall all ur apps from the web marketplace and resync all media once reconnected to Zune. Text messages and game saves will be gone unless the games get updated for cloud saves.
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any chance of using that custom backup tool and then forcing a restore backup? I know the backups that Zune makes before an update store everything (sms, apps, contacts)

ScottSUmmers said:
any chance of using that custom backup tool and then forcing a restore backup? I know the backups that Zune makes before an update store everything (sms, apps, contacts)
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The backup is just like a Image backup in your Windows, which means any changes after the backup is voided if you restore.
What we want is, a working backup that can backup our precious data like SMS, apps data, etc... so that we can quickly restore it after we reseted our phone or switching to a new phone...
Cheers~

weijoon said:
The backup is just like a Image backup in your Windows, which means any changes after the backup is voided if you restore.
What we want is, a working backup that can backup our precious data like SMS, apps data, etc... so that we can quickly restore it after we reseted our phone or switching to a new phone...
Cheers~
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No but that's what I'm getting at. If this guy has a new phone, in theory, he'd just have to load the image of backup over the new phone's OS. Unless, Windows Phone freaks out over hardware changes like Windows does

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No but that's what I'm getting at. If this guy has a new phone, in theory, he'd just have to load the image of backup over the new phone's OS. Unless, Windows Phone freaks out over hardware changes like Windows does
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To further your knowledge, each backup are encrypted and unique to each phone by reading the device ID and which only restorable to that specific device.
Yeah, means if you switch to new phone, your old phone backup cannot transfer to the new phone

JustinTV773 said:
yea that was productive...NOT!!! go somewhere. Anyway u can't make a backup of one device and transfer it to another but u can reinstall all ur apps from the web marketplace and resync all media once reconnected to Zune. Text messages and game saves will be gone unless the games get updated for cloud saves.
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you're taking a loyalty to a phone far too seriously here mate.
wp7 could benefit from real, full os imaging, just like -any- digital device that reads/writes zeros and ones could.
imaging a device has aboslutely zero security risk, to the owner, developer of applications, or to the market (hardware) place. the unique device ID (hardware) is enough to ensure software piracy is kept at bay.
its a huge plus to the consumer:
at 3am the phone automagically images it's entire self to microSD, and deletes the oldest past 3 backups, saving two.
sms, gamesaves, offline documents, offline settings, CALL LOGS, and system updates are all in a safe, convenient place.
then just mount the microSD to your computer and copy over the phone images to your computer or encrypt and upload to a secure server.
this means destroying a phone is only a hardware loss. within 10 minutes of recieving a new piece of hardware the entire phone could be as it was before whatever damaged the previous.
how people see this as something that isn't needed is beyond me.

weijoon said:
To further your knowledge, each backup are encrypted and unique to each phone by reading the device ID and which only restorable to that specific device.
Yeah, means if you switch to new phone, your old phone backup cannot transfer to the new phone
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Ah gotcha. Didn't know that.

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ohgood said:
you're taking a loyalty to a phone far too seriously here mate.
wp7 could benefit from real, full os imaging, just like -any- digital device that reads/writes zeros and ones could.
imaging a device has aboslutely zero security risk, to the owner, developer of applications, or to the market (hardware) place. the unique device ID (hardware) is enough to ensure software piracy is kept at bay.
its a huge plus to the consumer:
at 3am the phone automagically images it's entire self to microSD, and deletes the oldest past 3 backups, saving two.
sms, gamesaves, offline documents, offline settings, CALL LOGS, and system updates are all in a safe, convenient place.
then just mount the microSD to your computer and copy over the phone images to your computer or encrypt and upload to a secure server.
this means destroying a phone is only a hardware loss. within 10 minutes of recieving a new piece of hardware the entire phone could be as it was before whatever damaged the previous.
how people see this as something that isn't needed is beyond me.
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I totally agree. I love wp7 and will fight its corner against anything to anyone however if something is missing and needed its still missing and needed! This is one of them things just like vpn. I am 4 days from upgrading to the lumia 800 and i hate the fact i will lose all my game saves esp as some are working towards xbox live points. As i said you cant pretend something isnt needed just because its not there, this is a real shame. To me though it is like loveing my son but i do hate it when he screams at me cos i didnt give him my malteasers. Dont mean i love him any less but i would hope they sort it out. Or ay least give me some malteasers.

ScottSUmmers said:
Ah gotcha. Didn't know that.
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Glad that I can help.

ohgood said:
how people see this as something that isn't needed is beyond me.
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The most we can do at this point is VOTE UP that feature in the windows phone feature suggestion page and MAYBE microsoft will implement it. That feature has a ****load of votes, cannot remember link. The idea is quite good.
The reason the dude commented on your post was because your initial post did absolutely NOTHING to help the OP, it only satisfied your urge to bash the platform :-/
Very unproductive.

so no way to restore from old phone ..............hmmmmm

What if Microsoft made a feature like the ones found in Windows, the Easy Transfer wizard? They could whip up a feature in Windows Phone settings as "Easy Transfer" and let the user choose how they will transfer the files and settings (wallpaper, sms, system settings, as in ALL including synced emails) from the old phone to the new one, either wifi, or at least bluetooth. EVERYBODEH HAPPEH

I wrote a data backup app for HTC phones a while ago, but nothing for Samsung yet because Heathcliff74 hasn't released a tool for getting filesystem access (like his WP7 Root Tools app does) to other devs yet. No guarantee it'd be immediatley usable anyhow though, since the Focus S seems to use different high-privilege DLLs than the first-gen phones so all our current high-privilege apps (registry editing and provxml and all) don't work yet.

just found a way to get my apps back on my Focus S
Its not quite the end all fix,
but I just bought a focus S and wanted to transfer my apps from my old focus, of course the marketplace doesn't show that I own those apps on my new phone and there's no way to transfer them in Zune, but you can do it through the windowsphone site.
if you log into your windowsLive ID at WindowsPhone.com theres an option to reinstall apps from your purchase history. you just select the phone you want to transfer to, and then you select the app or game and then it sends you a text message to reinstall the app.
its not the greatest way, but atleast you dont have to buy all the stuff over again

newtype311 said:
Its not quite the end all fix,
but I just bought a focus S and wanted to transfer my apps from my old focus, of course the marketplace doesn't show that I own those apps on my new phone and there's no way to transfer them in Zune, but you can do it through the windowsphone site.
if you log into your windowsLive ID at WindowsPhone.com theres an option to reinstall apps from your purchase history. you just select the phone you want to transfer to, and then you select the app or game and then it sends you a text message to reinstall the app.
its not the greatest way, but atleast you dont have to buy all the stuff over again
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Attempting to repurchase an app will simply tell you you've purchased it before and install it for free. So the market doesn't tell you what you've bought before, but there's no risk of repurchasing either.

Big bug Huawei Mate 9 : warning for all

Good evening
Best wishes to you all
Sorry for my Bad english but I will try to do my best to explain the incredible bug encountered and warn everyone about my problem hoping it will avoid you the same disaster
I hope you can help me even if I do not believe it anymore...
Since I was caught by the time I carried out the daily transfer (by car, in the night, eating ....) of my photos / videos between my old phone (galaxy note 3) and my new Huawei mate 9 and this in several stages over several days via bluetooth.
Since everything worked perfectly because I checked day after day that I had the same number of files, I opened the videos transferred to the mate 9 and everything was there.
But one day I open the files transferred on the mate 9 and there everything disappeared except the directory tree: I mean that the folder transfered are there with their original names but all the content have been deleted and the folders transfered are well there but are all empty.
Of course like an idiot i have deleted the original content from my note 3 as I checked a successful transfer: result I have so far lost a major number of pro and family photos and video due to some sort of bug Of the mate 9.
I tried all the apps of recovery possible on the Google store or on Windows (easus, dr fone ....) but nothing does they do not find anything (and I'm in development mode with debug USB activated after that i have pressed 9 times on the phone model)
I know that I proceeded as an adventurer without saving before doing this damned transfer.
But do you think that there is a hope that I can manage to find by some means those files that have disappeared miraculously but their folders are still there but empty.
Thank you for your suggestions
Small precision in case: I made these transfers on the session of my second user account of my mate 9 and not the master account originally created during the first start of the phone.
I noticed that these additional user accounts are attractive at first but in fact there are too many limitations: only the master account can send MMS for example in no case the additional accounts even with all the permissions granted, there are Other limitations too ... I contacted Huawei who confirmed these limitations for security reasons according to them.
Similarly one can delete at any time the additional user accounts but if you want to delete the main account it is absolutely necessary to reset the phone and it is impossible to reverse one of the secondary accounts into master account, you will have to reset and recreate as desired.
The more absurd for me is the inability to transfer files present on the internal memory between sessions of user accounts, we can only access the files of our current session even when we are into in the session of the master account we can't access the files of one of our others account.

You dont have your stuff backing up to one of the many available clouds?
amazon, google, dropbox, etc.
I would have mentioned easus but looks like you tried. I feel bad for you but take it as a learning lesson, backup important stuff. Get you a hdd, cloud backup and computer backup minimum. Never solely rely on a cell phone.
Huawei is big on security. Sometimes they get it right but if your 2nd user account was someone you didnt want to access your information you would appreciate the added security. I have never used guest accounts or anything but I remember my 2 year old was playing with my phone as she always do, and few minutes later she was in twrp attempting to delete everything. This was a 128gb nexus 6p filled to the rim with important information.
any twrp backups from previous phones?

Don't call it a bug because It isn't.
And also there are easier and much faster ways to transfer files out there.
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intruda119 said:
You dont have your stuff backing up to one of the many available clouds?
amazon, google, dropbox, etc.
I would have mentioned easus but looks like you tried. I feel bad for you but take it as a learning lesson, backup important stuff. Get you a hdd, cloud backup and computer backup minimum. Never solely rely on a cell phone.
Huawei is big on security. Sometimes they get it right but if your 2nd user account was someone you didnt want to access your information you would appreciate the added security. I have never used guest accounts or anything but I remember my 2 year old was playing with my phone as she always do, and few minutes later she was in twrp attempting to delete everything. This was a 128gb nexus 6p filled to the rim with important information.
any twrp backups from previous phones?
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Hi
Thanks for your kindness
But unfortunately no twrp backups too... ;(

victorlht88 said:
Why didn't you use a micro SD card for data transfer?
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I had a sandisk class 10 on my note 3... The SD card died with many importants informations and impossible to recovery too... Thats why i didn't and i won't use SD card anymore

Mate 9 victim said:
I had a sandisk class 10 on my note 3... The SD card died with many importants informations and impossible to recovery too... Thats why i didn't and i won't use SD card anymore
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Bummer! Hope it gets better for you...
Btw, I see you just joined, so Welcome to XDA!

Hello... about my problem...
I have contacted Huawei and I was surprised that they seemed almost to know the problem : they told me "you had a file corruption" at our stage we can not do anything you need to contact [email protected] with the following ticket number that we will create together ".
I wrote 3 days ago ... Still no answers ...
We will see ... But given the bad comments found on the net about the Huawei support I have no illusions ...

Last episode and season finale of my bad experience
I had the Huawei support by phone finally... They admit that there must be a file corruption "bug" on the mate 9 and they propose me to send the phone to a technician to try to do something without any guarantee to succeed and of course without lending of a phone replacement during this period.
If I can go back I will never buy this phone 1stly for the bug encountered but seeing the support recognising that it can be a real bug from the phone and not lending a phone... For a 700€ phone the support and results are very bad in the end.
Excepted this bug the mate 9 has many limitations and bad cons that I will explain in a video in a few days to describe why if I could I won't buy the mate 9 again

have you checked if the files are still taking a space inside the storage? or it is all free?
there is a lot of viruses out there that could have renamed or hide your original folders

michel090428 said:
have you checked if the files are still taking a space inside the storage? or it is all free?
there is a lot of viruses out there that could have renamed or hide your original folders
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Hi Michel
It is exactly what I think and after discussing about this the Huawei technical phone operator told me that it can be the files corrupted by the bug : yes I am sure that the actual storage is higher than it must be, at least 8-10 Go more...And that's why they propose me to send it to their technical support but without any guarantee to succeed and with no phone to lend during this period.
I hope that soon there will be a root 100% secure of this phone to do a full recovery deeper as possible but for the moment I don't know how to access this extra storage used that I can found exploring the phone in all the account users sessions or with hi suite or others recovery software (Dr fone, easus...) and I have enabled the option show hidden files and folders into ES explorer but no results

Hope you learned a valuable lesson.
Backup your data. Anything can happen. Bug. Stolen. Lost. Water damage.
I do have sympathy but very little.

Question New to Sammy Z flip3, question

Hey guys & gals I just received my brand new Galaxy Z flip 3, (still haven't opened sealed box yet, lol).
I was hoping someone could answer a Q concering Samsung Switch? I am coming from a Sammy note 10+, and my Q is, "does the Samsung switch app truly transfer all my content to my new phone, meaning absolutely everything?
I've used the app in the past and ran into issues where it only partially copied text messages, contacts, and files saved to my internal storage.
I guess my Q is a 2 parter, lol, if not Samsung switch is there a better, safer, more complete app that will do this? If it means using a PC program thats fine too. Any help would be greatly appreciated, and thank you all in advance!

I hoped you backed up all your critical data...
Use Contacts to make a export/import file copy of your contacts. Any app like Poweramp that allows for backup files do so. Docs, pictures, etc copy/paste from your backup source.
SmartSwitch isn't that smart; it may or may not work. Best to load the new Fold from scratch.
If you get a bad build using SmartSwitch you'll need to do a factory reset.
The odds of it not screwing up aren't that good. Something simple like contacts it can likely do ok. Apps, homepage settings probably won't end well going from the N10+ to a Fold.
Never trust SmartSwitch to backup critical data as it can fail you miserably.

Thanks for the reply very much appreciated. What process/app do you use? I was thinking of just using one of the full backup/transfer apps for pc, and just do it that way since it seems to truly back up everything, any thought recommendation?
I noticed you did mention loading the Galaxy ZF 3 from scratch, so do you recommend that versus's a total back up & transfer, bc I was thinking a lot of my setting home screens, etc. arent always going to play nice, and will just cause slowed performance, crashes, etc. any thoughts?
Thank you again for the reply I really do appreciate it, I just want to do things the right/less pain in the ass way.

I have 2 N10+'s. The oldest, running on Pie, was hand loaded and that load will be 2 yo in June, still fast and stable.
The newest is running on Android 10. I used SmartSwitch but screwed up making the SmartSwitch copy. I had intended to only copy homepage settings but inadvertently included apps. It seemed to work but it has a lag now that I need to troubleshoot. It may well be from using SmartSwitch and force me to do a factory reset I'll play with it more as it may be something simple. It's the backup for this phone, no rush.
Unfortunately with stock Samsung's SmartSwitch is their one trick pony. Unless rooted there are no cloning options. One of the major shortcomings of stock Androids. All my PC OS loads are cloned. The good news is the Android OS load can be extremely long lived with minimal maintenance if you don't update the firmware.
A clean load is important as poorly written apps can change hidden user settings and sometimes a factory reset is needed to clear them. You are what you install... I use ApkExport to save installable copies of all my apps which are known good. No Playstore needed, it makes a reload faster and more precise, no surprises.
Everything I need to do a full reload is on the SD card which in turn is backed up redundantly to hdds.
You can use a OTA flashstick to do this but also make at least 2 hdd copies of it that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC. Verify data size, number of folders and that the copies are readable.
Never use encryption on backup data drives.
Never clone music or other databases that can be damaged by compression... those silly null marks matter. This is another possible way SmartSwitch may damage critical data, compression.

Very interesting, and a lot of great information I did not know, so thank you for educating me on your diffrent techniques, Sammy switch, and everything else, my phone will thank you!

Samsung Kies, SmartSwitch's predecessor was worse
ColorNote is another favorite; it allows direct hyperlinks to the browser. I use it for bookmarks and more. It allows for daily cloud, SD card backup.
This is ApkExport, it's on Playstore too.
It works with Android 9 and 10 but not sure about 11 and up. A near perfect freeware apk.

Smart Switch has changed a lot in 3 years. I wouldn't write it off before giving it a try, especially in combination with Google's own backup and restore or other solutions. The important thing is to read the options before clicking next. Exclude system apps and you eliminate the risk of corrupted settings. You are not obligated to enable every single option, but even if Smart Switch only works to copy text messages and bookmarks, Samsung is going to have much better access to those items than any third-party app.
The copy does not remove the data from the original phone, so the only harm in trying is time. You can always do a factory reset and try another way if it doesn't work out. Compared to exporting all of your apps and manually inputting the settings back into every one from the start, it seems worth even an hour to see if you can save two.
I copied from a Note 20 Ultra, so the configuration was a little closer. Obviously, a Note 10 is not going to be a near match in terms of the stock setup. Using the two methods together left me with going through system settings and a handful of apps that I had to manually set up again (mostly logins and things that really shouldn't transfer).

I have used smart switch to set up my z flip from my OnePlus 7t pro McLaren 5G and I used it to transfer my original phones contents to my warranty replacement z flip 3 and I have had no issues

luigi90210 said:
I have used smart switch to set up my z flip from my OnePlus 7t pro McLaren 5G and I used it to transfer my original phones contents to my warranty replacement z flip 3 and I have had no issues
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Sometimes it works, but you better be prepared if it doesn't. It's not suitable for critical data backup. Neither was Kies

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Smart Switch has changed a lot in 3 years. I wouldn't write it off before giving it a try, especially in combination with Google's own backup and restore or other solutions. The important thing is to read the options before clicking next. Exclude system apps and you eliminate the risk of corrupted settings. You are not obligated to enable every single option, but even if Smart Switch only works to copy text messages and bookmarks, Samsung is going to have much better access to those items than any third-party app.
The copy does not remove the data from the original phone, so the only harm in trying is time. You can always do a factory reset and try another way if it doesn't work out. Compared to exporting all of your apps and manually inputting the settings back into every one from the start, it seems worth even an hour to see if you can save two.
I copied from a Note 20 Ultra, so the configuration was a little closer. Obviously, a Note 10 is not going to be a near match in terms of the stock setup. Using the two methods together left me with going through system settings and a handful of apps that I had to manually set up again (mostly logins and things that really shouldn't transfer).
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You had said, "using the two methods together left mewith going....", which two methods are you referring to? Thanks!

paranoid365 said:
You had said, "using the two methods together left mewith going....", which two methods are you referring to? Thanks!
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The way that I read it it's Smart Switch and Google backup combo

paranoid365 said:
You had said, "using the two methods together left mewith going....", which two methods are you referring to? Thanks!
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Just like @beanbean50 said. I did the two that prompt during setup. I let Smart Switch do stuff like messages and browser (excluding desktop and system), but had Google do my apps. Photos and files I copied manually. I use Smart Launcher 6, so that has its own backup and restore.

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Sometimes it works, but you better be prepared if it doesn't. It's not suitable for critical data backup. Neither was Kies
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At no point did anyone say it's critical data that needed to be transferred
OP stated themselves it's basic things that OP wants that many other backup systems take care of(literally 3 of them exist on Samsung phones out of the box) unless you're a dingus and turn all that off
Google backup and Samsung backup both backup contacts, photos, videos, texts, apps, ect and having both of these systems on an older Samsung would mean that even if smart switch missed something like a few text messages, google or Samsung backup would fill in what's missing and to have both of these systems not functional would mean you disabled that on purpose
If your data is that critical and important you are already either practicing good backup practices or your company makes you auto back up to their servers. You wouldn't be using Samsung smart switch and while I understand to some people pictures of "your grandma"(not you specifically) are important and valuable, it's by no means the definition of critical data

luigi90210 said:
At no point did anyone say it's critical data that needed to be transferred
OP stated themselves it's basic things that OP wants that many other backup systems take care of(literally 3 of them exist on Samsung phones out of the box) unless you're a dingus and turn all that off
Google backup and Samsung backup both backup contacts, photos, videos, texts, apps, ect and having both of these systems on an older Samsung would mean that even if smart switch missed something like a few text messages, google or Samsung backup would fill in what's missing and to have both of these systems not functional would mean you disabled that on purpose
If your data is that critical and important you are already either practicing good backup practices or your company makes you auto back up to their servers. You wouldn't be using Samsung smart switch and while I understand to some people pictures of "your grandma"(not you specifically) are important and valuable, it's by no means the definition of critical data
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That fact that SmartSwitch can corrupt a otherwise clean load is also always a risk. Do it right the first time... you know the definition of insanity, right?

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That fact that SmartSwitch can corrupt a otherwise clean load is also always a risk. Do it right the first time... you know the definition of insanity, right?
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Never had that happen to me or any of the thousands of customers I have processed line upgrades for, have you considered you did something wrong or maybe your data was corrupted from the other device or maybe you tried doing everything wirelessly instead of hardwired, all of these things are factors that can cause what you're describing and then some, just the act of disconnecting the phone while data is transferring can risk data corruption
Also if you're not a dingus and you didn't turn off all the other backup systems on your Samsung, you're supposed to use Google restore to restore accounts, texts and apps and you use smart switch to move photos, videos, and other personal files over
Guaranteed to never corrupt your install but considering how many people I have just used smart switch to move their accounts and data over from one phone to another and it's never given me an issue personally or professionally, I think smart switch is gonna be fine for OP and 99% of people out there in the world

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Never had that happen to me or any of the thousands of customers I have processed line upgrades for, have you considered you did something wrong or maybe your data was corrupted from the other device or maybe you tried doing everything wirelessly instead of hardwired, all of these things are factors that can cause what you're describing and then some, just the act of disconnecting the phone while data is transferring can risk data corruption
Also if you're not a dingus and you didn't turn off all the other backup systems on your Samsung, you're supposed to use Google restore to restore accounts, texts and apps and you use smart switch to move photos, videos, and other personal files over
Guaranteed to never corrupt your install but considering how many people I have just used smart switch to move their accounts and data over from one phone to another and it's never given me an issue personally or professionally, I think smart switch is gonna be fine for OP and 99% of people out there in the world
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You're entitled to your opinion. Let's see the white papers to back up that bold statement. I'm all ears.
An easy option for the lazy. It guarantees nothing...
It's not a cloned copy so there's a lot that can go wrong as it tries to merge the data.
Samsung and Google backups?
When they fail, then what? Both Samsung and Google have had hacks and lost client accounts forever. Hell Samsung can't even secure their own critical data
Meanwhile they waste power and resources, constantly in the background

How do I downgrade my Samsung Galaxy S22 to an S9?

Hi,
I had a Samsung Galaxy S9, which I upgraded to an S22 about a month ago (don't ask how I went that long without upgrading ... it was the pandemic, there was so much inertia about so many things ).
I am returning the S22. The S22's weak vibrate is a dealbreaker for me. Instead of immediately upgrading again to an existing flagship phone, I am going back to the S9 and waiting the one month for the Pixel 7.
How do I downgrade to the S9? Do I just run Smart Switch with the roles reversed? Do I wipe the S9 first? Can I preserve the data and settings I have in my apps on the S9, which are probably more representative of my preferences than the ones on the S22? What happens if there are apps on the S22 that won't run on the S9? Is there a way to find out in a batch action, rather than having to check each of my 100+ apps by themselves?
I'm on T-Mobile, fwiw.
Thanks!

Hand load it. Otherwise you'll likely have trouble maybe even end up having to reload again.
SmartSwitch isn't that smart...

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Hand load it. Otherwise you'll likely have trouble maybe even end up having to reload again.
SmartSwitch isn't that smart...
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What do you mean by hand load it?

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What do you mean by hand load it?
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App by app, file by file, setting by setting from scratch.
Otherwise you don't know what's being done. If it screws up hidden user files you'll be doing a factory reset, again.
Go for a clean load...

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App by app, file by file, setting by setting from scratch.
Otherwise you don't know what's being done. If it screws up hidden user files you'll be doing a factory reset, again.
Go for a clean load...
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I hear you, and yet for this purpose, I don't think I have the time or cause to go through this process. I hand-loaded when I upgraded to the S22, and I'll probably do it again when I go from the S9 to the Pixel 7, but it's a lot of work, especially for a phone I'm only going to be using for about a month (I also have to return this by tomorrow to get the full refund from T-Mobile. I was hoping to get more guidance from this forum. Sigh.).

jelpern said:
I hear you, and yet for this purpose, I don't think I have the time or cause to go through this process. I hand-loaded when I upgraded to the S22, and I'll probably do it again when I go from the S9 to the Pixel 7, but it's a lot of work, especially for a phone I'm only going to be using for about a month (I also have to return this by tomorrow to get the full refund from T-Mobile. I was hoping to get more guidance from this forum. Sigh.).
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You can try but you are what you load. That's a huge jump in firmware versions and device hardware.
You don't have anything to lose by trying but make sure your critical data is redundantly backed up and that backup is not SmartSwitch!!!

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You can try but you are what you load. That's a huge jump in firmware versions and device hardware.
You don't have anything to lose by trying but make sure your critical data is redundantly backed up and that backup is not SmartSwitch!!!
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Good points all, but I think that was a bigger deal before storing data in the cloud became standard, or perhaps for people who haven't structured their services to all be backed up to the cloud or SaaS apps (aka a product layer on top of storage in the cloud).
Can you think of any critical data exists today that isn't backed up in its respective app or to a cloud storage service (if somehow an important file ends up on my phone, e.g. through a direct download from the web, I immediately upload it to my Google Drive)?

jelpern said:
Good points all, but I think that was a bigger deal before storing data in the cloud became standard, or perhaps for people who haven't structured their services to all be backed up to the cloud or SaaS apps (aka a product layer on top of storage in the cloud).
Can you think of any critical data exists today that isn't backed up in its respective app or to a cloud storage service (if somehow an important file ends up on my phone, e.g. through a direct download from the web, I immediately upload it to my Google Drive)?
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And if you lose access to the account? It's rare but accounts do get hacked and recovery isn't always possible. Try transferring 400+gb of cloud data. I use multiple unencrypted hdds and flashsticks but primary backup is hdd. No cloud at all except for Gmail for isolation and security.
Cloud is a waste of bandwidth, battery and my time. I can do a full reload/restore with no internet connection.
All my PCs are dual drive including my phones; OS drive/data drive. I literally have around 1.7tb of data not including the duplicates.
I might consider cloud as a secondary backup system but not primary.

Question Worth rooting phone to attempt photo recovery?

First of all I know I'm really stupid for doing this, I blame sleep deprivation.
2 days ago I imported all the photos from my z flip 3 to my ipad. After completing the import I used the option at the end of the import to delete off the phone. Found out tonight that the imported photos were only at ~400x400px.
Now I can't find the photos anywhere on the phone.
I have checked the recycle bin/trash in the photos and files apps but there is nothing in there. I have also tried Tensorshare Ultdata recovery, but no luck with that either. https://www.tenorshare.com/products/android-data-recovery.html
Would it be worth rooting the device to allow for a deeper scan of the file system, the phone is completely stock currently. If not is there anything else I can try or should I take it to a data recovery company?
Thank you taking the time to read and for any assistance you can share.

ghostgundam742 said:
First of all I know I'm really stupid for doing this, I blame sleep deprivation.
2 days ago I imported all the photos from my z flip 3 to my ipad. After completing the import I used the option at the end of the import to delete off the phone. Found out tonight that the imported photos were only at ~400x400px.
Now I can't find the photos anywhere on the phone.
I have checked the recycle bin/trash in the photos and files apps but there is nothing in there. I have also tried Tensorshare Ultdata recovery, but no luck with that either. https://www.tenorshare.com/products/android-data-recovery.html
Would it be worth rooting the device to allow for a deeper scan of the file system, the phone is completely stock currently. If not is there anything else I can try or should I take it to a data recovery company?
Thank you taking the time to read and for any assistance you can share.
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rooting it would format data, which in turn would generate new encryption key when you boot next time so you would be in even more of a mess sadly, if you didnt have online backup taking it to data recovery company might be your best choice

Thank you very much for the reply and advice, I dived a bit deeper and it turned out that the import was successful, there was a duplicate thumbnail image that was showing first.

Sounds like you solved it, but having gone through some fun data loss in the past, I wanted to leave this here for posterity.
If you need to recover data, do not root. Do not reboot. Do not delete or add anything unnecessary. The best results come from doing the least. When an image is deleted, it is similar to tearing up a physical photo and throwing it in the trash. The data still exists, but can be fragmented. The more you do, the more likely some or all of that data will be overwritten and become unrecoverable.
After searching through about 100 different recovery programs, I had the best results with https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.defianttech.diskdigger
It is the equivalent of the recovery programs for a computer, so it will show you thumbnails from that Facebook account of the ex you stalked 6 months ago in the results. It will also find almost anything that was deleted through normal means. Last time I used it personally was a couple years ago, but the reviews seem to imply it is still pretty effective.
Similar to what you described, you will also end up with a lot of thumbnails and previews. The easiest way to handle that is to run all of it through https://dupeguru.voltaicideas.net/ with the Picture option and the setting to "Match pictures of different dimensions" enabled. This will group all of the thumbnails and the originals to let you get rid of the junk.
Disclaimer: This is only personal preferences. I am a professional, but both apps listed in this post were downloaded free and used without any premium or paid features. This is not a sponsored suggestion.