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So we all know the op6 is coming soon and many of us are hoping to upgrade our outdated devices,but with Oneplus success in the market in recent years, their prices are continuosly going up,,maybe by small amounts on each phone,may be a big rise with the op6,we don't know yet
Anyway.What if the op6 launches with a price you cant afford.
What alternative devices have you in mind.
I have more or less decided that I will get a nokia 7 plus if the op6 is too expensive because it has what I need.Big battery and promise of frequent updates.Ive considered the honor view 10 and mi mix 2s also
What other mid to high range devices are you considering if tbe op6 is out of reach ?
ASUS Zenfone 5
only galaxy s9+ with unlocked bootloader.
The Nokia 7 Plus is going to be way cheaper than the OP6. It's cheaper than the OP5 and OP5T.
At its price, I don't think you can beat the Nokia 7 Plus but then again you need to consider what is or isn't important to you. OnePlus will have an awesome Development scene which there isn't with Nokia (unless it starts to develop and is contingent on unlocked bootloader and kernel sources being released).
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The Nokia 7 Plus is going to be way cheaper than the OP6. It's cheaper than the OP5 and OP5T.
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What about the hardware? How can you ever bring this as an alternative?
Snapdragon 660? 4gig ram?
In this case xiaomi mi a1 is better, Android one
Huawei honor 10
Xiaomi mi 7
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The Nokia 7 Plus is going to be way cheaper than the OP6. It's cheaper than the OP5 and OP5T.
At its price, I don't think you can beat the Nokia 7 Plus but then again you need to consider what is or isn't important to you. OnePlus will have an awesome Development scene which there isn't with Nokia (unless it starts to develop and is contingent on unlocked bootloader and kernel sources being released).
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I dont know where you fo your shopping mate but ehere I am to he 5 t is €499,
The 7+ is retailling at 3€399,not a massive difference.I sgree that Oneplus is more developer friendly but I would put the nokia 7 plus in that mid range section snd it will surely be much cheaper than tbe op6
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I dont know where you fo your shopping mate but ehere I am to he 5 t is €499,
The 7+ is retailling at 3€399,not a massive difference.I sgree that Oneplus is more developer friendly but I would put the nokia 7 plus in that mid range section snd it will surely be much cheaper than tbe op6
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In the UK the Nokia 7 Plus is £349.99. The 64gb OnePlus 5T is £449.
My logic is that the OnePlus flagships have been going up around £50 each year so the OnePlus 6 is likely to start at £499 and you were asking for the difference between the OnePlus 6 and alternatives. The Nokia 7 Plus is 30% cheaper.
Edit: I would note that I think the Nokia 7 Plus looks like a really good phone and would be tempted by it too.
Potentially consider the Asus ZenFone 5Z as another alternative but I think that is £499 also. If you're looking for the 845 processor, I can't really think of any other good options. Depends on what's important to you.
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rav101 said:
In the UK the Nokia 7 Plus is £349.99. The 64gb OnePlus 5T is £449.
My logic is that the OnePlus flagships have been going up around £50 each year so the OnePlus 6 is likely to start at £499 and you were asking for the difference between the OnePlus 6 and alternatives. The Nokia 7 Plus is 30% cheaper.
Edit: I would note that I think the Nokia 7 Plus looks like a really good phone and would be tempted by it too.
Potentially consider the Asus ZenFone 5Z as another alternative but I think that is £499 also. If you're looking for the 845 processor, I can't really think of any other good options. Depends on what's important to you.
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Yes absolutely you are right,20 to 30% difference in price of 5t and 7+ depending what country your in.It will be interesting to see what happens with the op6,but as you say it will certainly be higher.
I have been researching a lot of different devices to replace my op3 lately.I look at all the reviews,watch the youtube videos and join the forums to see what users are saying.
If I was to buy a phone now based on hardware alone and value for money Id go for the Honor view 10 with the kerin 970,but Honor are poor with updates.The Zenphone 5z looks great,but I dont think it will be available in UK/Ireland till July.It will though be cheaper than the op6 and 5t.
The Nokia 7+ is out May 2nd on Amazon,Im hoping the op6 is announced before then so I can make an informed decision,but could be ridiculous prices in which case Ill happily go for the 7+ which should be more than good enough for day to day use, especially as a non gamer.I don't play around with Roms as much as I use to and will be happy eith tbe long battery life and regular updates.
I do like oxygen os though and Oneplus are great with updates and theres a great community.Will be interesting to see what happrns within tbe next month or two
Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S.
Better: Camera, no notch, big screen, Project Treble (i'm not sure), and price imo
Worse: IPS screen, no 3.5mm Jack, Almost the same battery of the OP5
EDIT: I was wondering and just realized that every year, OnePlus makes a very well made flagship phone with latest soc, etc. and little additions (dual camera, now water resistance) it's all nice and good. The only deal thing is the price. I like OnePlus, (had the 3 and now the 5) and i understand that they make better and better every year, so it's obvious that it needs to cost more. I'll definitely buy the 6, in the end there are no alternatives sadly
Bought the pixel 2 xl. It's a nice camera.
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Bought the pixel 2 xl. It's a nice camera.
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That's what smartphones are turning into: cameras with mobile functionality ;-/
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That's what smartphones are turning into: cameras with mobile functionality ;-/
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4 lenses ftw
Anyone considering the Essential Phone 2 (which I guess will launch in September 2018) as a viable option to the OP 6 ?
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Anyone considering the Essential Phone 2 (which I guess will launch in September 2018) as a viable option to the OP 6 ?
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I would have, unfortunately in Europe even the PH-1 isn't available at this point.
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I would have, unfortunately in Europe even the PH-1 isn't available at this point.
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I'm in the UK and I'm hoping for the Essential Phone 2 to come, otherwise pretty sure it will be the OnePlus 6, if it doesn't. I live in hope.
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Hoping to get the OnePlus in my country
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What country are you in? Has it not had OnePlus before?
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Huawei honor 10
Xiaomi mi 7
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same here looks like the 6 is going to be too expensive for me and the honor 10 does look really inviting now that it has been announced
If OnePlus 6 is a flagship killer, let's see what are available at the flagship level in my country at 64GB variant
835:
Pixel 2 XL - Rs.57,995
LG V30+ - Rs.44,990 (Only 128GB)
Nokia 8 Sirocco - Rs.49,900
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 - Rs.67,900
Mi Mix 2 - Rs.32,999 (Only 128GB)
845:
OnePlus 6 - Expected around Rs.35,000
Samsung Galaxy s9/s9+ - Rs.57,900 / Rs.64,900
Kirin 970:
Honor v10 - Rs.29,999 (Only 128GB)
Huawei P20 Pro - Expected around Rs.50,000
Huawei P20 - Expected around Rs.30,000
The only problem which I see out for OP6 is the territory it's venturing into. Those who are spending north of 30k won't mind spending extra for getting what they needed. Mediocre Camera will definitely kill OP6 on arrival since every single unit there gives you the best. If Huawei P20 Pro comes around 40k. It'll cannibalize OP6 hands down. But i think Huawei P20 might be in OP6 territory and might give some serious trouble for them.
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Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S.
Better: Camera, no notch, big screen, Project Treble (i'm not sure), and price imo
Worse: IPS screen, no 3.5mm Jack, Almost the same battery of the OP5
EDIT: I was wondering and just realized that every year, OnePlus makes a very well made flagship phone with latest soc, etc. and little additions (dual camera, now water resistance) it's all nice and good. The only deal thing is the price. I like OnePlus, (had the 3 and now the 5) and i understand that they make better and better every year, so it's obvious that it needs to cost more. I'll definitely buy the 6, in the end there are no alternatives sadly
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For customization, I agree. OnePlus just does that better than all the other Android based smartphones out there. For other features though, I'm getting less and less impressed by their offerings each year, and when they get too expensive, I'll simply stop getting them,. I'll probably still get the 6 though, but if their prices get as high as iPhone level, I'm out.
I know it's not a new phone, as it's been out a while, but I quite liked the Razer Phone. So might get one of those if the OP6 doesn't impress me enough. But let's wait and see.
Wanted the Pixel 5, but saw that the OnePlus 8T will come out around the same time, with similar specs and prices...
Wondering if anyone had any thoughts....
Saw this forum: https://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-8t-vs-google-pixel-5-1162760/
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Wanted the Pixel 5, but saw that the OnePlus 8T will come out around the same time, with similar specs and prices...
Wondering if anyone had any thoughts....
Saw this forum: https://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-8t-vs-google-pixel-5-1162760/
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I have the OnePlus 6T and just pre-ordered the Pixel 5. Moving to Pixel for software support. Software updates for OnePlus phones; the first 6 months are great, the next 12 just Ok, and rare for the remainder of the device. Flashy specs aren't everything when your software is outdated.
With the recent introduction of new devices to the OnePlus portfolio it's likely their software support will worsen. Samsung has superior device software support to OnePlus.
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I have the OnePlus 6T and just pre-ordered the Pixel 5. Moving to Pixel for software support. Software updates for OnePlus phones; the first 6 months are great, the next 12 just Ok, and rare for the remainder of the device. Flashy specs aren't everything when your software is outdated.
With the recent introduction of new devices to the OnePlus portfolio it's likely their software support will worsen. Samsung has superior device software support to OnePlus.
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Can't agree more about 1+. I've had many of their phones, currently on the 7pro. Once a new model comes out it becomes the focus of their software department and all other models wait. I have plenty of bugs that are just getting old having to deal with. Looking forward to the Vanillaness of P5
I also have a oneplus 6 atm and there have been several bugs in their updates. Not to mention how buggy their android 10 update was where they eventually halted the upgrade for a few months!
Also their cameras are pretty bad (only the current 8 Pro has a decent enough camera).
Being on ATT in the states, the 8T has no support for 5g. If i'm going to be on this phone for another 2ish years, 5g support is something i definitely want in a device I upgrade to. For whatever damn reason, ATT won't certify oneplus devices to their 5g network
Also on a OP 6T and agree with everything said above.
The sentiments above are the exact reason why I've moved from OnePlus 7Pro to the Pixel 5.
For the non-T variant:
For 6 months after launch your phone is the top dog in terms of software support
After 6 months for another 6 months the T variant launches and whilst support for the non-T variant is still great, you might see a updates for the T variant a week or two ahead of your phone
After a year the next non-T phone comes out and development for your phone slows down to mostly security updates about a month behind when they are launched to the Pixel. New Android update is about 3 to 4 months after the latest OnePlus
After two years you're still getting some updates but barely
Compare that to Pixel and you have every monthly security update, beta of new Android release and new Android at the time they are launched for a good 2-3 years.
The OnePlus 8T absolutely demolishes the Pixel 5 in raw hardware specs but software isn't anywhere near as good in that regard. You can go custom rom but then you're hoping on the good work of volunteers which isn't guarenteed or quality tested at anywhere near the same level as what an OEM can do.
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The sentiments above are the exact reason why I've moved from OnePlus 7Pro to the Pixel 5.
For the non-T variant:
For 6 months after launch your phone is the top dog in terms of software support
After 6 months for another 6 months the T variant launches and whilst support for the non-T variant is still great, you might see a updates for the T variant a week or two ahead of your phone
After a year the next non-T phone comes out and development for your phone slows down to mostly security updates about a month behind when they are launched to the Pixel. New Android update is about 3 to 4 months after the latest OnePlus
After two years you're still getting some updates but barely
Compare that to Pixel and you have every monthly security update, beta of new Android release and new Android at the time they are launched for a good 2-3 years.
The OnePlus 8T absolutely demolishes the Pixel 5 in raw hardware specs but software isn't anywhere near as good in that regard. You can go custom rom but then you're hoping on the good work of volunteers which isn't guarenteed or quality tested at anywhere near the same level as what an OEM can do.
I came to the Pixel 5 from a 1+ 7t and i can only echo what others are saying really. My experience of a year with Oneplus was Never Fix Anything rather than Never Settle.
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I came to the Pixel 5 from a 1+ 7t and i can only echo what others are saying really. My experience of a year with Oneplus was Never Fix Anything rather than Never Settle.
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How's the switch from the 7t screen to the pixel's ?
Pixel 4a is offering better ui and 3 years of software update but with 730g. X2 pro is offering 855+ with 90hz refresh rate screen.Confused between them as need a phone for 3 years of use
My priorities - performance,camera,longevity
Camera you will always win with Pixel.
Performance the Pixel 4a is great as far as I can see, my other phone is One Plus 7pro and in day to day use I do not see much of a difference.
Pixel 4a 3 years of updates is a big deal for me, yes I will likely get a Pixel 5a or Pixel 6 in a year or year and a half but monthly patches seeing to next Android OS first it worth it.
I have not googled the X2 pro, is it $350 USD ?
Definitely the 4a.
Every reviewer is surprised about the 730g, i myself am too. I also have seen several benchmarks where you can see that the 730g is almost as fast as the 765g.
My recent devices are OnePlus 7 and 7 Pro, Mi9 and OnePlus Nord and the difference with the 4a is really minimal. I have the 4a for 2 days now and i love it!
Good to be back on stock Android, this is my first Pixel after the Nexus era.
And if camera is a important factor then the 4a is definitely your best choice.
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Camera you will always win with Pixel.
Performance the Pixel 4a is great as far as I can see, my other phone is One Plus 7pro and in day to day use I do not see much of a difference.
Pixel 4a 3 years of updates is a big deal for me, yes I will likely get a Pixel 5a or Pixel 6 in a year or year and a half but monthly patches seeing to next Android OS first it worth it.
I have not googled the X2 pro, is it $350 USD ?
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Will 730g be good for 3 years of use? I’m concerned with its performance.
If anyone could also tell me the update policy of x2 pro...... Like for how much year will it receive updates ?
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Will 730g be good for 3 years of use? I’m concerned with its performance.
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Lol. While not 'flagship' caliber the 730g is still potent and will certainly be relevant longer than most other chip sets. In 2-3 years there will likely be many other drivers enticing a new purchase; 4a feeling underpowered probably won't be one of them.
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Will 730g be good for 3 years of use? I’m concerned with its performance.
If anyone could also tell me the update policy of x2 pro...... Like for how much year will it receive updates ?
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I am sure the phone will work fine in 3 years, I tell you now I do not hold on phones for 3 years and when 5G is fully implemented I will want a 5G device.
I google the specs ... it is a year old and you are worried about obsolesce ?
They say you can upgrade it to Android 10 ? Nothing about Android 11.
It is more expensive.
Yes it has a Snapdragon 855+, I own a OnePlus 7Pro is has 855 and I do not regret the speed of the Pixel 4a
Are you willing to spend as much or a little more on the new Google Pixel 7 Pro, which seems to be a best of smartphone?
If you want to know more about the Google Pixel 7 serie, go to read HERE
If it uses the same modem as the 6 Pro, absolutely not.
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If it uses the same modem as the 6 Pro, absolutely not.
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It is rumored to use the Exynos 5300 modem. I have no idea if its gonna be any good.
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If it uses the same modem as the 6 Pro, absolutely not.
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It is rumored to use the Exynos 5300 modem. I have no idea if its gonna be any good.
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It turns out that the Pixel 6 Pro uses the Shannon A5123 5G modem made by Samsung, the Shannon 5511 sub-6GHz FR1 transceiver box, and the Shannon 5710 FR2 mmWave transceiver. The latter is missing from the non-US versions of the Pixel 6 Pro.
Subject to confirmation, the Pixel 7 Pro is said to use Samsung's Exynos 5300 modem
We'll just have to wait and see what modem Google uses for the 7 series and the 7 Pro in particular
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If it uses the same modem as the 6 Pro, absolutely not.
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From what I've heard, it will have a new modem. That's why I nearly surely will get the 7 Pro.
I am interested, my op10 pro goes back to amazon and I'll use OP7 pro.
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I am interested, my op10 pro goes back to amazon and I'll use OP7 pro.
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That bad ?
I wonder how long before the other brand offer similarly fast charging
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That bad ?
I wonder how long before the other brand offer similarly fast charging
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There are no sources so no Kernel/Rom, lenses are blocked so no gcam, and there is no msm download tool anymore,
Soo OP 10 pro is trash.
I want to like the P7P, I want to get one, but the more I look at it, the more I lean towards jumping ship for Samsung or most likely Apple. It would be my first apple mobile device, but aside from the eSIM all seems well.
The P6 is dreaded, and it took them way too long to offer software fixes.
I'm worried about the modem and don't understand why they're not going with Qualcomm.
It doesn't look like we'll be getting much in terms of camera improvement.
The battery will most likely be similar to the P6.
To answer your question plainly, I don't think there is any price point that justifies the risk of another failed device. I plan on waiting for the reviews. If the modem ain't stellar, it will be an automatic no from me because of my remote usage. If the modem works as well as the competition, then I'll have a hard time choosing.
Not interested at this time, but will be watching hand's on reports and reviews....
After hearing that it still has A55 cores, it's a no for me. I have not decided if I'm sticking with my OnePlus 9 or switching back to iPhone (I was on the 12 Pro Max for the last two weeks but the OOS13 beta dropped on the OnePlus 9 today and I kind of like it so I'm back on the OnePlus for now) but most relevant to this thread, I'm *not* going back to Pixel.
I'm writing this from a pixel 2 XL. Was previously using a One Plus 9 Pro. Had to switch back after the hyped up Hasselblad camera stopped focusing. In hindsight, it was a mistake to go with the one plus brand. My old pixel 2 it's working much better, and I will certainly be getting the 7 Pro
Will depend on modem. The modem on Pixel 6 Pro is absolute dog**** worst I have used.
But I will be getting rid of the Pixel 6 Pro, this is by far the worst phone I have ever used.
I am very happy with the 6 pro, but I like the look of the new minimal curve on the 7 pro. if there is also a higher peak brightness i'll be tempted, depending on trade in deals.
I did not plan on buying the P7 Pro, but since it does bring in a couple serious improvements, I made my pre-order today
- finally we get decent 10 bit HDR recording
- Faceunlock (as far as the presentation went, it's only for unlocking the phone and will not work as a biometric in-app or to make a payment)
- finally a decent peak brightness to work in the sun (1500 nits)
- 20 vs 30 res zoom with new nifty features
- macro mode (missed that since my ancient Samsung Galaxy alpha days), guided frame also looks promising for making videos
- better modem (this one needs reviews of course to validate any improvements; the P6 Pro modem is terrible)
- Tensor 2 should bring, if we look at the node and Googles claims, a 20% improvement in efficiency = better battery life
- and last but not least, the deciding factor that made me get the P7 Pro... European Google store offer the Pixel Watch LTE, valued at 429 €, for free when pre-ordering the 899 € P7 Pro. If I couple that with Rakuten and a Google Store cashback of 10% (Google One, 2 TB), sell the watch and my old phone, I get a new shiny phone and will actually have more money than I started out with. That's great of course.
In July, I had planned to buy the Nothing Phone(1) which looked interesting, and which is despite its setbacks the 1st smartphone produced by Nothing. Then, for personal reasons, I didn't buy it, and I turned to the Pixel 7 series that was supposed to arrive.
Very tempted by the 7Pro in 256GB, I hesitated for a long time and changed my mind again.
Looking at the specs, even if Google has improved this 7 series, I'll try to wait for the 8 series, which should arrive with a new processor and finally a non-curved screen and maybe a significantly reduced size for the 8Pro 256GB.
I'm staying with my OP 7T 256GB which I'll soon upgrade to custom rom, as OnePlus is not in a hurry to upgrade it to OOS12.
I wish you good time for the owners Pixel 7 serie
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"and finally a non-curved screen"
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I'm not sure if that hope of yours will result in reality. Google has made it clear that they are all about design and how it looks, and less about function. Just listen to the people presenting Pixel products, look at the Pixel watch (little screen real estate (square smartwatches have great advantage) and continental sized bezels are okay, as long as it looks good): the aesthetic is of greater importance to Google than practicality.
There is simply nothing to indicate that Google would steer away from that path. They consider a curved display to look nice.
Ergo I highly doubt that Google would dramatically change that business strategy for the next iteration of this phone. People like you and me, who would enjoy an even panel more, are simply not in the targeting group of Googles marketing.
The Pixel 7 Pro is almost perfect but the Pixel 6 has the worst connectivity and reception of any phone I've used, even behind the Galaxy devices.
No reviews means it would be just great on paper.
it's time to retire my oneplus 7 pro and get pixel 7 pro
I really wish google would get into the charging game like the oneplus 10 plus... That thing charges from 20% to 80% in 10 minutes
I've the S22 Ultra sky blue 512GB and getting the Pixel 7 Pro snow 512...
I traded in my work phone (iPhone XR) for the Pixel 7 Pro. My personal device is a Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra, so it will be fun to compare it to the Pixel 7 side by side. Ultimately I think I'll sell the one I like less.
that's my plan too.. gotta admit the S22 Ultra is a true beast...
I have a Pixel 4xl. I like it but the battery is terrible. I'm looking forward to Pixel 7 Pro.
S22+, love the feel but man that battery. Hope P7P doesn't let me down.
Iphone 14 Pro Max. Had it for a total of 23 days before I gave up on it. I traded-in my Pixel 6 Pro for it, so I'm using my backup Pixel 3 until the Pixel 7 arrives.
I may upgrade to P7P Depending on my OnePlus 10 Pro trade in at Best Buy or T-Mobile.
I'm coming from a Pixel 4 XL that I've had since the day it was released. Since this month is it's last update, I felt compelled to finally upgrade, and I'm so excited!
s21 ultra
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I'm coming from a Pixel 4 XL that I've had since the day it was released. Since this month is it's last update, I felt compelled to finally upgrade, and I'm so excited!
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Same here... News to me about the updates. Glad I took the plunge but I'll still keep my 4XL for the free Google Photos uploads
OnePlus 9. Hoping that I like the 7 Pro enough to make it my primary but either way, with the trade in deals Best Buy was offering, my 12 Pro Max trade in basically ended up with them putting $30 in my pocket so I couldn't resist.
My main phone was a 21 Ultra but I tried a 22 Ultra for a week and hated it. Now I've had a 6 Pro for two weeks. I like the 6 Pro so much I ordered a 7 Pro for myself and the wife will get the 6P that has been working great.
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OnePlus 9. Hoping that I like the 7 Pro enough to make it my primary but either way, with the trade in deals Best Buy was offering, my 12 Pro Max trade in basically ended up with them putting $30 in my pocket so I couldn't resist.
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Yup, the trade ins did it for me too.
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Iphone 14 Pro Max. Had it for a total of 23 days before I gave up on it. I traded-in my Pixel 6 Pro for it, so I'm using my backup Pixel 3 until the Pixel 7 arrives.
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I had the iPhone 14 Pro Max for 3 days just couldn't do it, went back to my S22 Ultra and returned the iPhone...
6Pro.
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S22+, love the feel but man that battery. Hope P7P doesn't let me down.
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You have 2 weeks to decide. Good luck!
Oneplus 10 pro. Tired of all the bugs.
OP 9 Pro, because it's not a good phone. I think the last good OP was the 7. And the OPO still to date has the best back of the phone.
Unlocked Pixel 7 Pro 512GB - soon to be gone: Unlocked Pixel 6 Pro 512GB - Samsung Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra Wi-Fi 512GB - Unlocked Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ 512GB (bye, bye Samsung phones!) - Unlocked Google Pixel 1 128GB - Unlocked HTC 10 - Verizon LG G3 - Verizon LG G Pad 8.3 LTE (semi-broken, now TV for the cat) (finally died now) - Sprint Galaxy S3 - Sprint Epic 4G Plus (Galaxy S2) - HTC Droid Eris
I actually had a Sony Xperia XA2 Ultra in there somewhere, too, but I'm not counting that one.
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OP 9 Pro, because it's not a good phone. I think the last good OP was the 7. And the OPO still to date has the best back of the phone.
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What is wrong with OPP 9 pro?
And what do you mean by that "best back of the phone"?