I've a device that is S-ON , TWRP 3.0.2-0 recovery installed , unlocked USA. Was running CM13 and later a lineage build...i just wiped/ reflashed the stock boot and system image so i've got things more or less back to original. All's good. However my bootloader remains unlocked. Do i need to relock it to get Android Pay working again? I was able to add a card, but have not tested it in the real world yet. My understanding is locking the bootloader will erase my data. Given I'd like to try that Nougat flavor and I don't think that will come OTA with an unlocked bootloader, maybe now's the time sense I think i'll have to flash that manually
Sorry, still new to joy of working with these devices. Fun tho
mlecho said:
I've a device that is S-ON , TWRP 3.0.2-0 recovery installed , unlocked USA. Was running CM13 and later a lineage build...i just wiped/ reflashed the stock boot and system image so i've got things more or less back to original. All's good. However my bootloader remains unlocked. Do i need to relock it to get Android Pay working again? I was able to add a card, but have not tested it in the real world yet. My understanding is locking the bootloader will erase my data. Given I'd like to try that Nougat flavor and I don't think that will come OTA with an unlocked bootloader, maybe now's the time sense I think i'll have to flash that manually
Sorry, still new to joy of working with these devices. Fun tho
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No, if Android pay has a problem, it will reject you DURING the process of adding a card, if you add a card sucussfully, your good to go.
If you want to try nougat, please note that that change is irreversible. The firmware is non-downgradeable. I don't think locking the bootloader will erase data, but if it does it PROBABLY will warn you.
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No, if Android pay has a problem, it will reject you DURING the process of adding a card, if you add a card sucussfully, your good to go.
If you want to try nougat, please note that that change is irreversible. The firmware is non-downgradeable. I don't think locking the bootloader will erase data, but if it does it PROBABLY will warn you.
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Thanks for all that...just to be clear, the only way to get Nougat is to flash it ? or is it also OTA?
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Thanks for all that...just to be clear, the only way to get Nougat is to flash it ? or is it also OTA?
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It is an OTA, you can have s-on, but you can't have an unlocked bootloader, root, or system modifications if any kind.
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It is an OTA, you can have s-on, but you can't have an unlocked bootloader, root, or system modifications if any kind.
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Sorry I have a question, I have an A9 (European model) S-ON with CM 14.1 and I would like to get S-OFF in order to back to stock. The problem is that I have read that Sunshine only works with stock ROM and, out of the box, my phone came with vodafone uk ROM and I can't find, on the internet, the exact same ROM as mine ( I have found an older version but because I have S-ON I can't downgrade ). There is another way to make Sunshine works? Thanks in advance
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Sorry I have a question, I have an A9 (European model) S-ON with CM 14.1 and I would like to get S-OFF in order to back to stock. The problem is that I have read that Sunshine only works with stock ROM and, out of the box, my phone came with vodafone uk ROM and I can't find, on the internet, the exact same ROM as mine ( I have found an older version but because I have S-ON I can't downgrade ). There is another way to make Sunshine works? Thanks in advance
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what is your rom version number/firmware version 1.57?
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what is your rom version number/firmware version 1.57?
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No my firmware version is 1.62.161.2
Lolli26 said:
No my firmware version is 1.62.161.2
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i cant find anything either, i guess you'll have to wait until the rom is released.
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It is an OTA, you can have s-on, but you can't have an unlocked bootloader, root, or system modifications if any kind.
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ahh, so i will need to re-lock if i want this OTA.
And btw, Android Pay worked, just as you said it would!
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ahh, so i will need to re-lock if i want this OTA.
And btw, Android Pay worked, just as you said it would!
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Good, I think you can download the ota and sideload it, should be in one of the general threads. Think it's called any news on 7.0
So, after all this, i had Android Pay (AP) working great w/ 1.57.617.60 flashed back to my phone. I never re-locked my bootloader. This a.m. i flashed nougat, both boot and system (RUU_HIA_AERO_UL_N70_SENSE80GP_ATT_MR_NA_Gen_Unlock_2.18.617.1) - All's great. However while shopping i was rejected by AP with the message in the attached screen shot. Is this because i never re-locked the bootloader? What are the consequences by doing so? Can I eventually re-unlock for future flashing?
NOTE - my device is not rooted, despite the accusations from the modal!
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So, after all this, i had Android Pay (AP) working great w/ 1.57.617.60 flashed back to my phone. I never re-locked my bootloader. This a.m. i flashed nougat, both boot and system (RUU_HIA_AERO_UL_N70_SENSE80GP_ATT_MR_NA_Gen_Unlock_2.18.617.1) - All's great. However while shopping i was rejected by AP with the message in the attached screen shot. Is this because i never re-locked the bootloader? What are the consequences by doing so? Can I eventually re-unlock for future flashing?
NOTE - my device is not rooted, despite the accusations from the modal!
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In nougat, it checks for unlocked bootloaders sadly you can't relock bootloader in nougat.
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In nougat, it checks for unlocked bootloaders sadly you can't relock bootloader in nougat.
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oh no...really? no 'fastboot oem lock'? crap. Perhaps the "upgrade" was a mistake. So i'm without?
mlecho said:
oh no...really? no 'fastboot oem lock'? crap. Perhaps the "upgrade" was a mistake. So i'm without?
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Yep, looks like it unless you downgrade and relock bootloader, then upgrade back to nougat
MGfusion said:
Yep, looks like it unless you downgrade and relock bootloader, then upgrade back to nougat
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My goal was keep su and also get nougat. A9 has the bug about OEM unlocking just like all other 7.0 devices. It will most likely get fixed at 7.1.1, the nexuses and all other devices running 7.0 seem to have this "bug"
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My goal was keep su and also get nougat. A9 has the bug about OEM unlocking just like all other 7.0 devices. It will most likely get fixed at 7.1.1, the nexuses and all other devices running 7.0 seem to have this "bug"
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ahh, so that means, as i understand it, if all goes to plan, we should one day expect a 7.1.1 update that will allow me to finally get back to AP?
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ahh, so that means, as i understand it, if all goes to plan, we should one day expect a 7.1.1 update that will allow me to finally get back to AP?
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As long as you don't care about root. You can always downgrade to mm, lock, and OTA back to nougat
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As long as you don't care about root. You can always downgrade to mm, lock, and OTA back to nougat
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ok, but just so i am clear , if i lock while in nougat, there's no going back ? i can not then unlock and downgrade?
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ok, but just so i am clear , if i lock while in nougat, there's no going back ? i can not then unlock and downgrade?
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No, you can only UNLOCK in nougat. If you want to relock the bootloader, you will have to downgrade to marshmallow and loose your root, or wait for Android 7.1.1
downgrade means i have to wipe data, right? The upgrade that was not the case. I am only assuming
Hi.
I'm right now on TS CM 13.1 and I want to try the RR. But I didn't unlock the bootloader officially, so I need to do it properly now so I won't end with an locked bootloader.
While I'm waiting for the approval... can I just flash the latest China dev ROM with my current recovery? Or should I flash it from fastboot?
Thank you.
Since you have a custom recovery, try Xiaomi.eu or miGlobe, though be careful as I think latest versions (Android 7) will lock the bootloader. To be safe, I'd flash an older version with Android 5.1 for now.
You can't try RR 5.8.1 based on Android 7.1 as it requires lollipop bootloader.
Or you can flash 6.12.22 and then update to any Nougat Miui Rom available on Xiaomi.eu. This is done via Updater app.
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I didn't realise there was a previous RR version with lollipop bootloader.
I already got the SMS with the approval from Xiaomi. I though it would take long. So, if get that right, I should first flash an older Android 5.1.1 Dev ROM and than update it with the Updater app to the latest version with 7.1 . This will lock the bootloader and than I can unlock it officially.
If I do it from from fastboot I can flash directly the latest 7.1 dev ROM, right?
Thank you guys. I always messed around with ROM's with my old GNex, but this Miui stuff confuses me a bit.
No need. Just go in TWRP and see the RR N thread there is a link to nougat blobs. Install that and then install newer TWRP that works with nougat (see android development). I think at this point you'd have to unlock bootloader. Then install room normally
But, as I read in the RR N thread, after I flash those blobs I'll end up with a locked bootloader if I previously unlocked it unofficially. As I did.
And, at least I think, I can only unlock it again from an official ROM. That's why I want to flash Miui.
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But, as I read in the RR N thread, after I flash those blobs I'll end up with a locked bootloader if I previously unlocked it unofficially. As I did.
And, at least I think, I can only unlock it again from an official ROM. That's why I want to flash Miui.
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Whether you have unlocked your device officially or not, it will still lock your bootloader. The key here is if you have the permission to unlock it. If not, then don't proceed. You can officially unlock your bootloader after 5 business days upon receiving the SMS.
Ok. I do have the permission. And can I unlock the bootloader right away with mi flash unlock on a custom ROM or do I need the official miui ROM?
Worked for me with no OS, so I assume you do not need miui.
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Ok. I do have the permission. And can I unlock the bootloader right away with mi flash unlock on a custom ROM or do I need the official miui ROM?
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After you flash the blobs, the bootloader will be locked. Unlock it via Mi Flash. Then flash a Nougat compatible TWRP and you're good to go in flashing Nougat RR.
Hi all,
I unlocked the bootloader, rooted and dropped the purenexus 7.1.2 ROM on my Pixel back when it was all released. At the time people were saying that its about as good as its going to get and then when 8 came along ppl said a rooted Pixel can't be updated to the new OS while bootloader is unlocked and rooted.
Just wondering if someone can weigh in and tell me where we are currently at with Pixel in regards to rooting, bootloaders and OS updates? Can we have an unlocked bootloader, TWRP installed, rooted and run 8.1 with OTA updates now?
brettule said:
Hi all,
I unlocked the bootloader, rooted and dropped the purenexus 7.1.2 ROM on my Pixel back when it was all released. At the time people were saying that its about as good as its going to get and then when 8 came along ppl said a rooted Pixel can't be updated to the new OS while bootloader is unlocked and rooted.
Just wondering if someone can weigh in and tell me where we are currently at with Pixel in regards to rooting, bootloaders and OS updates? Can we have an unlocked bootloader, TWRP installed, rooted and run 8.1 with OTA updates now?
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You can unlock your bootloader. TWRP and root your phone. You won't get OTA updates, but you can install them manually. Or unroot your phone.
pojr said:
You can unlock your bootloader. TWRP and root your phone. You won't get OTA updates, but you can install them manually. Or unroot your phone.
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If I was to unroot but keep the bootloader unlocked would OTA updates work again?
Is the old bootloader unlock still valid or do I need to lock it and unlock it using current methods?
After Downgrading from Pie to Oreo. And officially unlocking bootloader via nokia website, And installing twrp and magisk, MY PHONE IS ROOTED.
But,
Can i flash latest Pie firmware now without losing root ? If yes how? And will bootloader get locked again by doing this?
kinngjatt said:
After Downgrading from Pie to Oreo. And officially unlocking bootloader via nokia website, And installing twrp and magisk, MY PHONE IS ROOTED.
But,
Can i flash latest Pie firmware now without losing root ? If yes how? And will bootloader get locked again by doing this?
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You will lose root as far as I know, but you can easily reisntall it via twrp. The bootloader will not be relocked unless you manually do so yourself.
So I first bought my Samsung a11 as an android 10 model,
I then flashed it after I bought it with an open-line android 11 version and got twrp and root. This was a year ago I think.
Now they released the final update for this Samsung phone model, and I want to at least get the latest and last version of my phone.
But I kinda forgot how to do the procedures again.
So my question is does flashing the new android version firmware using odin remove TWRP installed on my device?
my phone model is: A115FXXU2BUJ2 (android 11)
the firmware I want to install: A115FXXU3CV13 (android 12)
if so what do I need to do in order to successfully have both the new firmware I want to install and twrp installed on my device? (i kinda know how to root using twrp and magisk so no problems here)
Any help would be much appreciated!
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So I first bought my Samsung a11 as an android 10 model,
I then flashed it after I bought it with an open-line android 11 version and got twrp and root. This was a year ago I think.
Now they released the final update for this Samsung phone model, and I want to at least get the latest and last version of my phone.
But I kinda forgot how to do the procedures again.
So my question is does flashing the new android version firmware using odin remove TWRP installed on my device?
my phone model is: A115FXXU2BUJ2 (android 11)
the firmware I want to install: A115FXXU3CV13 (android 12)
if so what do I need to do in order to successfully have both the new firmware I want to install and twrp installed on my device? (i kinda know how to root using twrp and magisk so no problems here)
Any help would be much appreciated!
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Yes, flashing the update via Odin will remove TWRP and root, it will also, more than likely, lock your bootloader, then you won't be able to reinstall TWRP or root the device unless you unlock the bootloader, if it can be unlocked.
Droidriven said:
Yes, flashing the update via Odin will remove TWRP and root, it will also, more than likely, lock your bootloader, then you won't be able to reinstall TWRP or root the device unless you unlock the bootloader, if it can be unlocked.
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My phone's bootloader is already unlocked, after flashing the updated android version firmware will the bootloader become lock again? and how do i avoid rmm and frp lock?(just incase this happens)
????.?? said:
My phone's bootloader is already unlocked, after flashing the updated android version firmware will the bootloader become lock again? and how do i avoid rmm and frp lock?(just incase this happens)
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If the bootloader in the update is a securely locked bootloader, it will probably have locked bootloader after flashing and might not be able to be unlocked. That was the whole point of me warning you in my last post. Now I've had to post again just to say the same thing that I already said. I guess I was talking to the wind.
There is no way to know what the results will be after updating unless you find someone that has already updated the exact same model number of A11 or bite the bullet and update yours then see what you get.
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If the bootloader in the update is a securely locked bootloader, it will probably have locked bootloader after flashing and might not be able to be unlocked. That was the whole point of me warning you in my last post. Now I've had to post again just to say the same thing that I already said. I guess I was talking to the wind.
There is no way to know what the results will be after updating unless you find someone that has already updated the exact same model number of A11 or bite the bullet and update yours then see what you get.
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I see, looks like i need to find someone who have done it and see if it works. I didnt get what you mean about after flashing, it might have a chance to lock the bootloader depends on the update. I think ill just try and see what happens. Thank you.
I dont know guys with that phone but there should be a tool that bypass auth and unlock the bootloader in any case. I ONLY knows MTK devices, not sure about that samsung i use a .Bat file.
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I see, looks like i need to find someone who have done it and see if it works. I didnt get what you mean about after flashing, it might have a chance to lock the bootloader depends on the update. I think ill just try and see what happens. Thank you.
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No, I said that after the update, it could cause the bootloader to be locked and then may not be unlockable from that point on. It depends on the bootloader in the update. If this happens, you will be unable to install TWRP or root via Magisk. That is why you need to confirm whether or not flashing the update will relock the bootloader during the flashing process and, if it does, whether or not it can be unlocked again after the update.
In other words, look at exactly what you are about to jump into before you make the jump because you might land in the one place that you absolutely do not want to land.