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I don't really care what the ROM looks like although it's definitely a plus if it looks good. I'm mainly looking for a ROM that's designed specifically for music usage & playback. I'm going to download Voodoo Sound on top whatever ROM I flash unless it's included. But before I downloaded Cyanogen or something I was checking with you guys if you had seen any audiophile specific ROMS around lately? This one looked promising but it's not a Verizon model. Is there any ports around? Or would this even be worth it with the Voodo Sound on top with Neutron player?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2174644
Thank you guys for all of your help. I appreciate it. & this may be in the wrong place but I'm not sure so if it is then my apologies.
From a code/programming perspective, there's no difference in roms, other than the audio add-ons they offer... but those add-ons are nothing more than compression and equalizer tools. Beatz Audio, DSP Manager, Voodoo... all are just compression tools to 'beef up' sound and they give you equalizing customization, but you can do that kind of equalization with apps like Doubletwist. The digital compression those add-ons and apps use is teh evil if you're an audiophile, because it overcompensates and 'chops the head' off sound.
You're not going to get an audiophile experience on a phone, because of the hardware used; there's always going to be some signal to noise ratio loss from the headphone plug and device board. Bluetooth can reduce the S/N reduction, but most aftermarket roms aren't working well with BT for prolonged use (I've had good luck with the 4.3 roms, but not 4.4). If you want the best performance, get an AOSP-based rom, then add in all the apps you want to eqing.
I'm a music producer, so I try to avoid all that compression crap whenever possible... eqing is about all I'll do to a properly-mastered release. Case-in-point, I play older jazz FLACs all the time on Doubletwist; I use the EQ feature and it sounds about as good as you can get on an S3.
beepea206 said:
From a code/programming perspective, there's no difference in roms, other than the audio add-ons they offer... but those add-ons are nothing more than compression and equalizer tools. Beatz Audio, DSP Manager, Voodoo... all are just compression tools to 'beef up' sound and they give you equalizing customization, but you can do that kind of equalization with apps like Doubletwist. The digital compression those add-ons and apps use is teh evil if you're an audiophile, because it overcompensates and 'chops the head' off sound.
You're not going to get an audiophile experience on a phone, because of the hardware used; there's always going to be some signal to noise ratio loss from the headphone plug and device board. Bluetooth can reduce the S/N reduction, but most aftermarket roms aren't working well with BT for prolonged use (I've had good luck with the 4.3 roms, but not 4.4). If you want the best performance, get an AOSP-based rom, then add in all the apps you want to eqing.
I'm a music producer, so I try to avoid all that compression crap whenever possible... eqing is about all I'll do to a properly-mastered release. Case-in-point, I play older jazz FLACs all the time on Doubletwist; I use the EQ feature and it sounds about as good as you can get on an S3.
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That's very helpful. So what's your favorite player then? I don't necessarily like carrying around a phone & a player for mobile listening but if I have to then so be it. I've been using Poweramp EQ'd pushing my vsonic gr07's for portable use. It was pretty good with the FLACS I have but I feel like it could be better. How much of a difference does the Voodoo mod make? Will it even work with Verizon galaxy s3 since it wasn't shipped with the Wolfson DAC? Either way I'm using a FiiO E17 with it which has Wolfson. I'm just trying to get this all figured out.
Truth be told, I haven't found that one player I really love. If I could mix Winamp with Doubletwist, I'd have my perfect player... DT doesn't have very good playlist support and Winamp is clunky, but I love the feel of DT.
Voodoo is really similar to CM's DSP Manager and is a more customizable version of BeatsAudio; I honestly don't know if Voodoo works with the S3, but DSP manager does. The both offer compression and EQ control, so if you have low-quality MP3s, they'll sound better than stock sound will make them. If you have a music app like Poweramp or Doubletwist, you don't need to use the EQ control in Voodoo, so what's left is just the compression feature. Personally, I stay away from compression apps/mods like the plague, because they end up altering the sound of the file and, IMO, if it's a properly mastered file/recording, you don't need compression (except for maybe some tube compression on a standalone amp for some 'warmer' sound... but that's not applicable here).
I stick to using EQ controls in the players apps. If you try that and just don't find they offer you the sound you want, then try an app like Voodoo. But be forewarned, I've seen (and experienced) some issues on other devices where apps like that can alter the audio framework of the rom permanently, so even after you uninstall it, the sound remains affected.
Best is in the eye of the beholder.
Users are expected to do their own research and try Roms to see what suits them best.
As xda is not a support site, this thread is closed.
Anyone have a suggestion for a good app to convert audio files from lossless to mp3?
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The key is to get a good MP3 encoder. Some of the cheap/free ones make mistakes during the encoding process, resulting in poor quality. I highly recommend the LAME MP3 encoder engine, shown here: http://lame.sourceforge.net/
Of course, that's just the engine... you'll need a program to perform the work "around" the engine... their link to "software which uses LAME" is a good place to start: http://lame.sourceforge.net/links.php I have used various programs at various times in the past, so I can't point you to a specific program, but I am sure any of these can work well, since the engine is great.
Hi guys, my name is Alessandro and I've just rooted my Z3. I've seen there are many Sound Mods out there and I'd like to know which one you'd suggest me to try with. Which one produces the best sound according to you?
I was also thinking about a small portable amp for my 16 ohm earbuds. Do you use one?
Thank you!
If I had to choose one I would go with this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...-dontbelive-marshmallow-stereomod-v1-t3366065 as it seems it's the more clean one
I don't really like sound mods because many of them look like "hey we got beats, dolby, whateveryouwanttoinserthere" and then it's like... "so many stuff, does this really even work?" I like the way the original audio config for Xperia Z3 sounds, anyways you can also try using new libraries from stock sony roms (don't remember if it was on cross device or cross themes, but it was a port from androidexpert35) in the case your rom doesn't have the libraries updated already.
Also, watch out for mods that "amplify" the audio quality of your phone, many cause a crackling noise because they add a number that comes to their head instead of following the sound chipset config (this is from personal experience as I restored the original sound quality for xperia zl and z in cyanogenmod builds (unreleased job))
P.S: Do a backup of your current rom with TWRP before flashing any "sound mod" because if you have some regrets you'll regret even more not having a backup and then having to spend hours flashing again stock rom and getting your system back to what it was before flashing anything
Oh I forgot to mention that I use a pair of Sony ZX310 headphones when listening to music with the following configuration on sound enhancement (stock rom):
DSEE HX: On
Surround Sound (VPT): Studio
Equalizer
400: 0
1k: -3
2.5k: +3
6k: +3
16kHz: 0
Clear Bass: Adjust between 4 and 8 (6 is preferable but adjust to your needs)
xkeita said:
If I had to choose one I would go with this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...-dontbelive-marshmallow-stereomod-v1-t3366065 as it seems it's the more clean one
I don't really like sound mods because many of them look like "hey we got beats, dolby, whateveryouwanttoinserthere" and then it's like... "so many stuff, does this really even work?" I like the way the original audio config for Xperia Z3 sounds, anyways you can also try using new libraries from stock sony roms (don't remember if it was on cross device or cross themes, but it was a port from androidexpert35) in the case your rom doesn't have the libraries updated already.
Also, watch out for mods that "amplify" the audio quality of your phone, many cause a crackling noise because they add a number that comes to their head instead of following the sound chipset config (this is from personal experience as I restored the original sound quality for xperia zl and z in cyanogenmod builds (unreleased job))
P.S: Do a backup of your current rom with TWRP before flashing any "sound mod" because if you have some regrets you'll regret even more not having a backup and then having to spend hours flashing again stock rom and getting your system back to what it was before flashing anything
Oh I forgot to mention that I use a pair of Sony ZX310 headphones when listening to music with the following configuration on sound enhancement (stock rom):
DSEE HX: On
Surround Sound (VPT): Studio
Equalizer
400: 0
1k: -3
2.5k: +3
6k: +3
16kHz: 0
Clear Bass: Adjust between 4 and 8 (6 is preferable but adjust to your needs)
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I agree with you. I'm looking for something which can improve the audio output quality of the Z3, not just for remarkable names.
Is it possible to couple V4A with the Sony Audio Enhancements?
Brutale1090! said:
I agree with you. I'm looking for something which can improve the audio output quality of the Z3, not just for remarkable names.
Is it possible to couple V4A with the Sony Audio Enhancements?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/r-s-e-sound-systems-auditory-research-t3379709
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/mod-beatsaudio-e-xloud-installer-t3029951
try one of these, the audio quality on headphones directly depend on the quality of the headphone,
Ans the settings you set on your headphone selection on V4A, I got Sony MDR-NC33 Noise which is pretty enough for me, other V4A can be experiment and find out with respect to the headphone,
see for yourself bro, and one thing the audio mods above are far more better than Sony Audio Enhancement, I tested it and tried not to leave sony stuff coz z3 coz like 40k here but at the end of the day there are more options on V4A and you can combine it with Dolby Atmos MOD mad by bro guitardedhero, cya just sharing my opinions and experiences
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/r-s-e-sound-systems-auditory-research-t3379709
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/mod-beatsaudio-e-xloud-installer-t3029951
try one of these, the audio quality on headphones directly depend on the quality of the headphone,
Ans the settings you set on your headphone selection on V4A, I got Sony MDR-NC33 Noise which is pretty enough for me, other V4A can be experiment and find out with respect to the headphone,
see for yourself bro, and one thing the audio mods above are far more better than Sony Audio Enhancement, I tested it and tried not to leave sony stuff coz z3 coz like 40k here but at the end of the day there are more options on V4A and you can combine it with Dolby Atmos MOD mad by bro guitardedhero, cya just sharing my opinions and experiences
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Thank you so much for your opinion! Wich audio mod works good combined with V4A. I mean, how do I know if some libraries will be in conflict with V4A? Which combos have you already tested?
I think you should probably install V4A and not mix it with other stuffs...
Do I have to disable the original Sony Soundenhancement.apk to use V4A?
Brutale1090! said:
Do I have to disable the original Sony Soundenhancement.apk to use V4A?
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I think ARISE WORKS BETTER,
forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/r-s-e-sound-systems-auditory-research-t3379709
that developer guitardedhero and his team are constantly updating but the the other mod that Xtreme Music is fairly good but I think he havent updated in a while and he also get banned sometimes for ad-links by the mods, any way it upto your choice I prefer more of that guitardedhero and its more stable I think, I tried both mixed in early stages of arise and xtreme music, the the sound was awesome, I got like 3 system equalizers, one for V4A, other DolbyAtmos and Xtreme Music Equalizer working simultaneously at a time, it was great, I had to throw sony's sound enhancement (sorry sony) stuff completely since if conflicts with other V4A and DolbyAtmos,
just back up your current rom, and try things out mixing them, if they dont work just google it people always have similar problems like tweaking startup init script and other workarounds.
And one last thing use powerAMP beta 3 for audio playback throw that sony music app aka walkman, it supports FLAC and has good UI and sound engine too, works with V4A. Just my experiences bro, try and find out for yourself,
http://forum.powerampapp.com/index.php?/topic/8810-poweramp-alpha-build-703704/
And one thing get a XDXC 64 gigs SD card, listen to flac audios only n cheap mp3 ****s, if you need any flac songs pm me, i got 300gigs of it
I'm trying some specific mods for the Z3, actually the last version of the Dontbelieve's mod. Arise will be my next step. How do I disable the original Sony sound enhancement when playing with arise?
Brutale1090! said:
I'm trying some specific mods for the Z3, actually the last version of the Dontbelieve's mod. Arise will be my next step. How do I disable the original Sony sound enhancement when playing with arise?
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I upgraded the sound driver to latest Xperia XZ one
How do I disable the original Sony Sound Enhancement? It is conflicting with v4a
Everything working. Guys, nothing can be compared with ARISE. Harder to configure, but way better results.
UPDATE: MISSING/INCOMPATIBLE LIBRARIES DEEM THE APK MENTIONED BELOW USELESS (AS OF 02/16/2018). ALL FILES WERE PULLED FROM THE FASTBOOT IMAGES HERE (LABELLED AS FULL DUMPS BACK TO STOCK). APKS FROM 8.0B3 AND 8.1B1 AND THEIR LIBRARIES FROM /VENDOR/LIB/SOUNDFX ARE ATTACHED IF ANYONE WANTS TO PICK THIS UP.
Seems like it was removed in 8.1. This is the apk that was pulled from the 8.0B3. Untested and for mata only for the time being.
8.0B3 MusicFX.apk hashes:
MD5: 5C070B09BA76A1595E3C95D500E26BA3
SHA-256: DC39794D01BD8D454053D2522B8CD826EC9FF4FBDBBAF2AA0B961C876C7B68B6
I have it installed how do i test it.?
Would be interesting to know if Essential pulled it to make some changes to it, then repack when public build or another beta is released.
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siulmagic said:
I have it installed how do i test it.?
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Get a music player of your choice that has access to an EQ and you should see snapdragon audio EQ. Some 3rd party music players may have a setting in them, named such as "use system EQ" that is the one you need.
I just tested it as a normal install. It works, but not 100%. Audio quality is noticeably different than the generic EQ. But when you try to adjust bass boost or surround sound, it tells you to plug headphones in. I'm guessing it needs to be updated to be fully functional.
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I just tested it as a normal install. It works, but not 100%. Audio quality is noticeably different than the generic EQ. But when you try to adjust bass boost or surround sound, it tells you to plug headphones in. I'm guessing it needs to be updated to be fully functional.
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I'm pretty sure that everyone is totally missing the boat on this Snapdragon Audio+.
The key feature of Snapdragon Audio is a pseudo-high-quality DAC to improve audio quality. Essential phones do not use this hardware. Our phones have no analog audio output. Even the bundled 3.5mm adapter includes its own DAC.
Thus, Snapdragon Audio+ acts only as an EQ with some DSP effects. You can get the same result with a myriad of apps on the Play Store.
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I have it installed how do i test it.?
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Doesn't work because of some incompatible/missing libraries unfortunately.
Charkatak said:
Would be interesting to know if Essential pulled it to make some changes to it, then repack when public build or another beta is released.
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Could be some restriction they ran into when switching from pass-through HALs to binderized HALs. The apk from beta 3 depends on external libraries from API 23 whereas the newer apk from 8.1 depends on libraries from API 27 exclusively, so they seem to be in the process of moving forward, and hopefully we'll see it in their future builds.
I don't have the time or resources to make this work, so I am abandoning this. I'll post the 8.1 apk and libraries from both 8.0 and 8.1 if anyone wants to work on it in the meanwhile.
How do you install the libraries
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How do you install the libraries
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If we knew what files they were, they'd be packaged in a zip and this would work. But we don't know what libraries are needed.
Did they remove the "fx boost" mode?
I had it on my mi5 oreo developer rom but now i upgraded to stable oreo rom and it's removed from audio profiles.
Snapdragon Audio+ replaced by MusicFX OP 6T Oxygen OS Beta 30 w/ Android 10
I tried installing the Snapdragon Audio+ apk on android 10 update but it didn't install probably because MusicFX prevents it from being installed.
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I tried installing the Snapdragon Audio+ apk on android 10 update but it didn't install probably because MusicFX prevents it from being installed.
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I haven't used the stock EQ on the Essential for quite some time, but it should already be there. When you launch an EQ menu from another app (such as Google Play Music, YouTube Music, etc.), it should launch the built-in EQ app in Android. Essential has used Snapdragon Audio+ since the beginning. However, when Android 8 released during the betas, Snapdragon Audio+ wasn't there. That's why this was created and it never worked anyway. Essential eventually put Snapdragon Audio+ back into Android 8 and it's been there with Android 9 too. It should be there in Android 10 as well, but I've been using Viper4Android instead. Previously, I was using JamesDSP, but it doesn't work with Android 10. And frankly, Snapdragon Audio+ doesn't sound all that great compared to either Viper4Android or JamesDSP anyway.
There are no forums about new walkman , so I post to here.
I have found that the new Sony Walkman is supported by android , and the new walkman app looks pretty well ( style is like the wm1 and zx300 series) . I wanna install the new walkman app on my cellphone .
There are some problems
First of all there are no smaster audio processor on the cellphones so some of the functions won’t work on the ordinary android devices . Like vinyl processor or dsee Hx , dc phase processor. Maybe we have to disable them to ensure that the app works well.
Second , I found the functionality between zx500 and a100 is different . So there are maybe 2 versions of new walkman app. One for zx500 and another one for a100.
I double this. I'll try to get the APK tomorrow by extracting it from the firmware... then I'll install it to AOSP.
Got it? Would be interested on that and some Infos about it (Development)
any news about this?
anything else？
Did anyone do this?
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Do you guys need someone with one of these devices to be able to extract the APK? Willing to help if you point me in the right direction.
However don't be too excited, the music player sucks as a music player.
It's very basic, it doesn't even let you create or modify playlists. Only "bookmarks" which cannot be backed up/exported and have limitations.
Even I have these device, and I'd rather stick to PowerAmp in general (best overall) or USB Audio Player Pro UAPP for USB DAC support and MQA.
114514Beast said:
There are no forums about new walkman , so I post to here.
I have found that the new Sony Walkman is supported by android , and the new walkman app looks pretty well ( style is like the wm1 and zx300 series) . I wanna install the new walkman app on my cellphone .
There are some problems
First of all there are no smaster audio processor on the cellphones so some of the functions won’t work on the ordinary android devices . Like vinyl processor or dsee Hx , dc phase processor. Maybe we have to disable them to ensure that the app works well.
Second , I found the functionality between zx500 and a100 is different . So there are maybe 2 versions of new walkman app. One for zx500 and another one for a100.
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Maybe you should try AiMP.....? personally, I highly recommend it
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Do you guys need someone with one of these devices to be able to extract the APK? Willing to help if you point me in the right direction.
However don't be too excited, the music player sucks as a music player.
It's very basic, it doesn't even let you create or modify playlists. Only "bookmarks" which cannot be backed up/exported and have limitations.
Even I have these device, and I'd rather stick to PowerAmp in general (best overall) or USB Audio Player Pro UAPP for USB DAC support and MQA.
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Hi there,
I might be a little late but yes! Someone with one of these devices will be great.
Being it Android you can download an android app called (Super Backup & Restore) from the Google play store. This app is easy, intuitive and will extract the APK file. Then you can upload it here on XDA. I can help more if you are willing to help. I will try my best to answer any questions you have.
Cheers