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Hi,
Curretnly i'm on the G3 and i dont like it much.
Thinking on 1 of these:
Xiaomi Mi4C
Asus Zenphone 2
Now, I asking that in Mi 4C Thread bc's i thinking that there is some people that might had this.
What do you think?
Thanks!
It comes down to preference really as I dont really like phones bigger than 5" and xiaomi is quite established. Its got the right size, ir blaster and a good SOC which should get good rom support, cm12.1 already available
Where are you based? The Global version of the Zenphone 2 has band 20 which the Mi 4c doesn't have (may be able to be unlocked manually but I'm doubtful). The Zenphone also has expandable storage which the Mi 4c lacks - you may already be used to this and the larger form factor due to currently using the G3. That said, I've heard (but cannot personally verify) that the Zenphone has erratic battery life and performance in addition to being more expensive than the Mi 4c.
ermacwins & wingsfortheirsmiles,
I got used to 5.5" so this is not an issue at all...
I from Israel and LTE bands are 1800 & 2600.
So from my understanding, both of them would work, right?
32gb are more than I need, so the expandable storage is not too important.
If the Zenphone do has erratic battery life and performance, it's a good reason to go for the Mi4C, isn't?
Anyone else suffered or heard on it?
Thanks very much!
shabydog said:
ermacwins & wingsfortheirsmiles,
I got used to 5.5" so this is not an issue at all...
I from Israel and LTE bands are 1800 & 2600.
So from my understanding, both of them would work, right?
32gb are more than I need, so the expandable storage is not too important.
If the Zenphone do has erratic battery life and performance, it's a good reason to go for the Mi4C, isn't?
Anyone else suffered or heard on it?
Thanks very much!
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Well, my Mi4C had battery drain. Around 3%/hour on idle with WiFi and 4G all off, so when I woke up a third of my battery was already gone. I ended up fixing it by flashing the international ROM but after that, I've been getting 5 hours of SoT which is great. Can't comment on the battery of the Zenfone.
Regarding the battery problem:
Looks like it could different between your's to anyone else.
I read a review in a site in my country and the person who made the review praise the battery life.
Thanks!
My Mi4c has very good battery life. The same like the z1 compact i had. Other phones i had i charged sometimes more than 2 times a day.
The zenfone 2 has worse battery life, build quality and performance. If you don't mind the SD card and 5" screen then the Mi4C is your phone. Zenfone 3 could be very interesting when (should be kinda soonTM) it gets released though!
Thank you all!
Go for the Mi4C.
P.S: A newer model of Mi series also coming soon?
How abt Redmi note 3?
No battery issue with my Mi4C. Left it idle for most part of the day with cellular and Wi-Fi connected the whole time and managed 0.7% / hour idle time. I also have many apps installed (not facebook or any messaging apps though). It's rooted and greenified, running original stable Chinese Miui 7 Rom with some Chinese bloat apps removed. It's also scoring 52K on antutu 6.
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Processing power wise, ZenFone 2 (the high end 32 GB internal memory with 4 GB RAM model) is comparable to Mi4C, the GPU is even slightly better. However, when it comes to video recording, ZenFone is waaaaay below Mi4C. The still image, if you use latest firmware, is already fixed though. Note that due to the use of Intel processor, some apps that use native libraries might not be installable. Ensure your apps are architecture-neutral or have both arm and intel version available.
OTOH, Mi4C has thermal issues and I still can't find the best thermal configuration so far. This causes the cores, both CPU and GPU, get shutted down or their upper limit is decreased to lower down the temperature. I break this limit by changing the limit a little bit higher, but if you play games while charging the phone, my best record reaches 90° C. Hot enough for a sleep killer tea
Happy deciding!
Having owned both phones i can say the Zen2 is a dud. The screen is dim, the speaker is weak, some apps drain crazy battery as they are using an ARM emulator to run on x86. It wobbles on the desk and the battery dies after your lunch break. The camera has low exposure that makes everything look darker than it is. The Mi4c just works like you expect a flagship to do.
leledumbo said:
Processing power wise, ZenFone 2 (the high end 32 GB internal memory with 4 GB RAM model) is comparable to Mi4C, the GPU is even slightly better. However, when it comes to video recording, ZenFone is waaaaay below Mi4C. The still image, if you use latest firmware, is already fixed though. Note that due to the use of Intel processor, some apps that use native libraries might not be installable. Ensure your apps are architecture-neutral or have both arm and intel version available.
OTOH, Mi4C has thermal issues and I still can't find the best thermal configuration so far. This causes the cores, both CPU and GPU, get shutted down or their upper limit is decreased to lower down the temperature. I break this limit by changing the limit a little bit higher, but if you play games while charging the phone, my best record reaches 90° C. Hot enough for a sleep killer tea
Happy deciding!
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I dont believe in 90° C unless your phone is borked and termal throttling doesnt work, also phone would shut down anyway with that temperature.
k3lcior said:
I dont believe in 90° C unless your phone is borked and termal throttling doesnt work, also phone would shut down anyway with that temperature.
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It is, well the screenshot I have is 87 actually in one of the many thermal zone (they're all varying from 60 or so) but during that time I did see and feel 90 (as a hot tea drinker, I know how hot is 90). Thankfully I have a flip cover that absorbs the heat, but if you touch the scree, it's really damn hot. Thermal throttling doesn't work on my device, because I've disabled the thermal driver :cyclops:
I don't really know the actual upper limit, but I guess it should be around 100-120. My PC was 120, but I don't think smartphone's SoC will differ much.
leledumbo said:
It is, well the screenshot I have is 87 actually in one of the many thermal zone (they're all varying from 60 or so) but during that time I did see and feel 90 (as a hot tea drinker, I know how hot is 90). Thankfully I have a flip cover that absorbs the heat, but if you touch the scree, it's really damn hot. Thermal throttling doesn't work on my device, because I've disabled the thermal driver :cyclops:
I don't really know the actual upper limit, but I guess it should be around 100-120. My PC was 120, but I don't think smartphone's SoC will differ much.
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RIP phone.
k3lcior said:
RIP phone.
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Hahaha, worry not, it's been back to normal temp (30-50). The problem only happens if you play resource intensive games while charging.
My last phone Mi4i also reached ~90°C after playing with the thermal engine. The flashlight turned on in the pocket of my pants and burned for half an hour. I just noticed it because my leg got hotter and hotter luckily the phone wasnt damaged through this. Also, i think the CPU can handle these temperatures without being damaged, but i would worry about other phone components such as SD Card, battery or glued components
Sorry, my antutu 6 score for my Mi4c was 685xx, not 52k.
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mmmh i think xiaomi mi4c only for battery
Wich app is good for testing sd card speed.
I have a Samsung pro plus 128gb sd card and I have slow speed. I don't know Wich app's are accurate.
My test with a1 sd bench
66 MB/s read and 44 MB/s write.
That's pretty good unless you have a really high end sd card. I only get about 18mb write with the Samsung EVO card that best buy was giving for free. The internal memory screams at 300mb read and 150mb write.
aaronito said:
Wich app is good for testing sd card speed.
I have a Samsung pro plus 128gb sd card and I have slow speed. I don't know Wich app's are accurate.
My test with a1 sd bench
66 MB/s read and 44 MB/s write.
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I guess first we would have to define what accurate means, Im sure the benchmarks are accurate in what they are measuring and Im sure its not accurate to real life use.
Anyway my A1 bench score is 62MB/s & 16MB/s I/O. I use the long benchmark but the "accurate" test with reboot was similar +-1MB/s. This is with a SanDisk Ultra MicroSDXC 80MB/s Class 10, 64GB.
I guess these tests best represent what speeds you could expect while transferring "large" files, perhaps the random I/O test is better if you want something closer to real life usage?
Lerduvan said:
I guess first we would have to define what accurate means, Im sure the benchmarks are accurate in what they are measuring and Im sure its not accurate to real life use.
Anyway my A1 bench score is 62MB/s & 16MB/s I/O. I use the long benchmark but the "accurate" test with reboot was similar +-1MB/s. This is with a SanDisk Ultra MicroSDXC 80MB/s Class 10, 64GB.
I guess these tests best represent what speeds you could expect while transferring "large" files, perhaps the random I/O test is better if you want something closer to real life usage?
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I tested out and it's the same about 1MB/s difference. But mine sd card has 95MB/s read and 90MB/s write and I not getting close to it. That's why I ask of the benchmark are accurate.
aaronito said:
I tested out and it's the same about 1MB/s difference. But mine sd card has 95MB/s read and 90MB/s write and I not getting close to it. That's why I ask of the benchmark are accurate.
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Every manufacturer has their own way of measuring the speeds. All shown speeds in the ads are best case scenario and not real world that you would expect.
There are som many variables that limit the speed of reading/writing so the numbers show are only good for comparison to other cards and best for comparison within the same brand (assuming they always use the same method of measurement).
So no need to worry....
Tiny Wiz said:
Every manufacturer has their own way of measuring the speeds. All shown speeds in the ads are best case scenario and not real world that you would expect.
There are som many variables that limit the speed of reading/writing so the numbers show are only good for comparison to other cards and best for comparison within the same brand (assuming they always use the same method of measurement).
So no need to worry....
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Okay thanks
The phone could be limiting the speeds as well.
Tried In a GS5 and got 44/12MB/s out of the same SD memory. Perhaps playing around with some kernel tweaks might give you a more satisfying result?
I have tested several cards in my phone. The fastest card I own is a Lexar 1000x 32gb card that claims a 150mbs read and a 45mbs write. The testing only gives about 71mbs read and 34 mbs write. As you can see it is far from the manufacturers stated numbers.
The Samsung EVO 64gb that Best buy was giving away with the phone gave me about 35mbs read and 20mbs write if I remember correctly.
64gb Samsung Pro+
trying a1 sd but seeing my sd card listed 3 times ?? not sure why ok, refresh seems to have sorted it out
Card is a 64gb Samsung Pro+ (paid $39, best buy price match microcenter)
wifi, bluetooth, connected, no tweaks or anything, just ran as i use it.
A1 bench score is 61MB/s & 45MB/s I/O. using the accurate benchmark
score is 7.84MB/s & 1.42MB/s I/O. using the random i/o benchmark
score is 65.47MB/s & 53.90MB/s I/O. using the quick benchmark
CrystalDiskMark 3.0.4 (C) 2007-2015 hiyohiyo
Sequential Read : 93.079 MB/s
Sequential Write : 86.402 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 84.354 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 78.683 MB/s
Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 8.644 MB/s [ 2110.5 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 3.937 MB/s [ 961.3 IOPS]
Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 11.080 MB/s [ 2705.0 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 3.702 MB/s [ 903.8 IOPS]
Test : 50 MB [L: 0.0% (0.0/59.6 GB)] (x2)
Date : 2016/03/07 5:39:41
OS : Windows 10 Professional [10.0 Build 10586] (x64)
JS_racer said:
trying a1 sd but seeing my sd card listed 3 times ?? not sure why ok, refresh seems to have sorted it out
Card is a 64gb Samsung Pro+ (paid $39, best buy price match microcenter)
wifi, bluetooth, connected, no tweaks or anything, just ran as i use it.
A1 bench score is 61MB/s & 45MB/s I/O. using the accurate benchmark
score is 7.84MB/s & 1.42MB/s I/O. using the random i/o benchmark
score is 65.47MB/s & 53.90MB/s I/O. using the quick benchmark
CrystalDiskMark 3.0.4 (C) 2007-2015 hiyohiyo
Sequential Read : 93.079 MB/s
Sequential Write : 86.402 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 84.354 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 78.683 MB/s
Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 8.644 MB/s [ 2110.5 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 3.937 MB/s [ 961.3 IOPS]
Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 11.080 MB/s [ 2705.0 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 3.702 MB/s [ 903.8 IOPS]
Test : 50 MB [L: 0.0% (0.0/59.6 GB)] (x2)
Date : 2016/03/07 5:39:41
OS : Windows 10 Professional [10.0 Build 10586] (x64)
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Nice. I may have to invest in one of these cards. Are you getting an occasional notification for your SD card? I'm still trying to figure out if there is something wrong with my phone.
skiddingus said:
Nice. I may have to invest in one of these cards. Are you getting an occasional notification for your SD card? I'm still trying to figure out if there is something wrong with my phone.
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only on reboot, there is an automatic reboot option, say at a chosen time it will reboot, in the settings somewhere, lol cant recall where i saw it
not sure the phone is making good use of this card or not.
i do have 2 lexmark 633 cards i could bench, just the install is a pita, lol dumb tray
I bought a Sandisk extreme plus 64gb card at Best Buy yesterday. It is testing out at 66mbs read and 57mbs write. They are on sale for $50 which is the same as Amazon.
skiddingus said:
I bought a Sandisk extreme plus 64gb card at Best Buy yesterday. It is testing out at 66mbs read and 57mbs write. They are on sale for $50 which is the same as Amazon.
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testing how ??
a1 bench ?? CrystalDiskMark?? what method of bench test??
JS_racer said:
testing how ??
a1 bench ?? CrystalDiskMark?? what method of bench test??
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A1 bench
skiddingus said:
I bought a Sandisk extreme plus 64gb card at Best Buy yesterday. It is testing out at 66mbs read and 57mbs write. They are on sale for $50 which is the same as Amazon.
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I looked up that card and it looks like today it's even half of what you paid for lol....get your money back man!
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extre...id=1457876897&sr=1-2&keywords=sandisk+extreme
HTCMDA said:
I looked up that card and it looks like today it's even half of what you paid for lol....get your money back man!
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extre...id=1457876897&sr=1-2&keywords=sandisk+extreme
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That is the "extreme". I bought the "extreme plus" It is faster.
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A1 bench
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good result, what test was that ?? did you run the other tests ?? accurate, random or quick ??
just trying to get a feel for cards in this phone, thanks!!
A phone has its limits
If i remember correctly, a phone has a speed limit, so if your sd card is capable of higher speeds, that doesn't mean your phone can do the same.
I would agree that the phone has a limit, if we knew what cards are capable of in the phone, then that could help with a purchasing decision for card speed.
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app launch speeds are great, no issues
Apps launch instantly... nothing to criticize there.
I hope honor used ufs for even more speeds.
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I hope honor used ufs for even more speeds.
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Battle between 3 kirin brothers
And ufs vs emmc comparison
Blazingly fast...
Very fast. Zero lags.
Apps are run fantastic no lag / bug / glitch no problem and issues!
VERY fast app launch speed. The Honor 9 kills it in this area.
Hello :
for the sdcard performance, what is the maximum speed do you get with your note 20 ultra,
as I just bought the Kingston canvas plus 128g and the speed should be like 170mb for reading and around 90 for write but this is the maximum I get.
is it a limit by the phone itself or I did get a faulty SDcard?
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Hello guys,
So I bought my phone almost 2 months ago and it performs good most of the time. However my Antutu Benchmark is really low for a device that was advertised with 300k Antutu benchmark score which is weird. In the following Screenshot you can see that my score is almost 100k less than the advertised 300k. I don't know if I should return the device or if it's my fault.. Even though I don't have much space left, it shouldn't affect the GPU performance that much. To be honest, I feel like the performance is sufficient for my usage but I'm still wondering what's causing this low score. Anyone has an idea?
Just Unlocke bootloader And flash Custom roms with good kernel
You will got 291k and even 300k
what's your current miui version ?